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Marila1313
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posted December 12, 2008 09:48 AM           Edit/Delete Message
So far I would think venus/pluto aspects
venus/ mars in 8th.
Does anyone know someone with such a situation.
I know a girl with who got herpes at a young age of 15, and she has venus biquintile pluto in her chart.

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sunshine_lion
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posted December 12, 2008 09:55 AM           Edit/Delete Message
having unprotected sex , that said -

More than half of all people will have an STD/STI at some point in their lifetime. [1]

The estimated total number of people living in the US with a viral STD/STI is over 65 million. [2] Every year, there are at least 19 million new cases of STDs/STIs, some of which are curable. [2,3]

More than $8 billion is spent each year to diagnose and treat STDs/STIs and their complications. This figure does not include HIV. [4]

In a national survey of US physicians, fewer than one-third routinely screened patients for STDs/STIs. [5]

Less than half of adults ages 18 to 44 have ever been tested for an STD/STI other than HIV/AIDS.

Each year, one in four teens contracts an STD/STI. [6]

One in two sexually active persons will contact an STD/STI by age 25. [7]

About half of all new STDs/STIs in 2000 occurred among youth ages 15 to 24. [8] The total estimated costs of these nine million new cases of these STDs/STIs was $6.5 billion, with HIV and human papillomavirus (HPV) accounting for 90% of the total burden. [9]

Of the STDs/STIs that are diagnosed, only some (gonorrhea, syphilis, chlamydia, hepatitis A and B) are required to be reported to state health departments and the CDC.


One out of 20 people in the United States will get infected with hepatitis B (HBV) some time during their lives. [10] Hepatitis B is 100 times more infectious than HIV. [11]


Approximately half of HBV infections are transmitted sexually. [12] HBV is linked to chronic liver disease, including cirrhosis and liver cancer.


Hepatitis A, hepatitis B and HPV are the only vaccine-preventable STDs/STIs. (Not all HPV types are covered by the vaccine, so women who receive it still need Pap tests.)


It is estimated that as many as one in five Americans have genital herpes, a lifelong (but manageable) infection, yet up to 90 percent of those with herpes are unaware they have it. [13]


With more than 50 million adults in the US with genital herpes and up to 1.6 million new infections each year, some estimates suggest that by 2025 up to 40% of all men and half of all women could be infected. [14,15,16]


Over 6 million people acquire HPV each year, and by age 50, at least 80 percent of women will have acquired genital HPV infection. [17] Most people with HPV do not develop symptoms. Some researchers believe that HPV infections may self-resolve and may not be lifelong like herpes. [2]


Cervical cancer in women, while preventable through regular Paps, is linked to high-risk types of HPV.


Each year, there are almost 3 million new cases of chlamydia, many ofwhich are in adolescents and young adults. [8] The CDC recommends that sexually active females 25 and under should be screened at least once a year for chlamydia, even if no symptoms are present.


About two-thirds of young females believe doctors routinely screen teens for chlamydia. [18] However, in 2003 only 30% of women 25 and under with commercial health care plans and 45% in Medicaid plans were screened for chlamydia. [19]


At least 15 percent of all American women who are infertile can attribute it to tubal damage caused by pelvic inflammatory disease (PID) , the result of an untreated STD. Consistent condom use reduces the risk of recurrent PID and related complications: significantly, women who reported regular use of condoms in one study were 60 percent less likely to become infertile. [20]

Consistent condom use provides substantial protection against the acquisition of many STDs, including statistically significant reduction of risk against HIV, chlamydia, gonorrhea, herpes, and syphilis. [21,22,23]


Some studies show that, for those who already have a clinically apparent genital HPV infection, using condoms promotes the regression of HPV lesions in both women and men. [24,25]

unprotected sex pretty much assures it - they say it also can lead to pregnancy

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Mama Mia
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posted December 12, 2008 10:04 AM           Edit/Delete Message
"having unprotected sex"

Exactly..Another one of those post where ppl are using astrology for something as far as I am concern is just common sense..
I am sorry but I can't read that deep into Astrology to dictate who will have a STD and who wouldn't..

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alvarella777
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posted December 12, 2008 12:07 PM           Edit/Delete Message
A female friend of mine got infected with nasty bacteria during sexual intercouse, despite the fact she has protected herself in a way. She got these "Chlamydia"-things which can be quite dangerous and had to cure it with some heavy treatment/medicaments for weeks. During the time of infection (it was linked to a mentally/emotionally unhealthy relationship anyway) she went through several transits in which BM Lilith, Chiron and Pluto have been involved prominently:

t. Saturn (travelling through her 5th house) and t. Uranus (travelling through her 11th) both squaring her natal BM Lilith located in her 1st house.

t. Pluto (wandering through her 8th) squaring her natal Chiron (located on the 11th/12th house cusp in her chart)

t. BM Lilith (wandering through her 7th/entering her 8th house) squaring her natal Pluto in her natal 5th.

t. Jupiter (wandering through her 9th) squaring her natal Saturn and Vesta (in 12th), also squaring her natal Mars (in 6th)

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FistOfLegend
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posted December 12, 2008 12:10 PM           Edit/Delete Message
I've heard Mars conjunct Neptune.

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sunshine_lion
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posted December 12, 2008 12:19 PM           Edit/Delete Message
apparently my post was too long -

Each year, one in four teens contracts an STD/STI.

that is 1/4

seriously? astrology? that is math honey buns not astrology. use your condom sense.

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savanna20
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posted December 12, 2008 12:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for savanna20     Edit/Delete Message
Having all planets in Scorpio and all of them in the 8th house!

Jk. This has nothing to do with astrology.

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Azalaksh
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posted December 12, 2008 01:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Azalaksh     Edit/Delete Message
Agreeing with Mama Mia and sunshine_lion ("condom" sense ) here..... I believe that Astrology doesn't *CAUSE* anything. It's a reflection of what is going on in our psyches at any given point in time.

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Glaucus
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posted December 12, 2008 01:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message

Exactly!

I believe Astrology works because of synchronicity and not because of cause and effect.

Dr. Carl Jung believed in that too.

Raymond

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Azalaksh
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posted December 12, 2008 01:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Azalaksh     Edit/Delete Message
Glaucus

I believe Astrology was "given" to us as a tool for understanding ourselves and others.
If, as a lot of newbies believe, astrology "causes" events, how do you explain it when a gloom'n'doom aspect looms, then passes, with nothing adverse happening to you??

I also believe that if your spiritual evolution and depth of self-knowledge are right where they're supposed to be for this lifepath, then the indications given by Astrological associations/interpretations are not needed -- for you've already learned that lesson previous to the transit/progression happening.....

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good girl
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posted December 12, 2008 03:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for good girl     Edit/Delete Message
Of course unprotected sex causes sexually transmitted disease.And it's fair enough to say that.

But I for one think it is a valid question to ask. And the question was what 'indicates' not 'causes' disease. Why let this question bother you? (any one in general, no one in particular)

Part of the fun and learning experience of astrology is exploring it with all kinds of questions, and finding connections.

I agree astrology doesn't cause anything, but that wasn't the question. And if someone is newer to astrology we should kindly help guide them, or share out expertise (if we have any).

Unfortunately (or maybe fortunely--LOL!) I don't have any experience with sexually transmitted disease and its correlations to astrology.

I do think however the debate on what the chart can and can't show, or what manifests physically verses emotionally or mentally would be interesting to post on another thread. I'm off now to see if such a thread exits! POOF!

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Lara
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posted December 12, 2008 03:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
OMG Sunshine, that list of statistics is HORRIFYING

I think the problem started when the contraceptive pill became popular... then all the girls were having UNprotected sex with anyone. Crazy to have such little respect for your body.

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Nightjar
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posted December 12, 2008 04:01 PM           Edit/Delete Message
The question is absurd. And sunshine lion, Glaucus and Azalaksh just tried to explain very politely why. Also, the thread called "What Astrology Can and Cannot Do" is worth having a look at.

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Crazy to have such little respect for your body.

I agree.

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Scorpionic Web
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posted December 12, 2008 04:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scorpionic Web     Edit/Delete Message
I know a Sagittarius girl with Sag rising. She has Scorpio Venus (detriment pleasure) in the 12th (self-undoing) in applying opposition to Taurus Jupiter Retro *Chart/Sun ruler* in the 6th (health)... Add in the Aries Mars in the 5th (sex) in applying trine to the Ascendant and its clear to see how easily she lets her desires surface.

She has a very dangerous sex life in my opinion, and I feel her chart suggests some rather troubling results from it. She tried having sex with me, and wanted it unprotected. For the sake of her chart and myself, I was tempted to ask her to get tested for diseases.

I'm surprised by how many women I've been involved with who want unprotected sex. It seems they often don't care about STD's and they're satisfied with simply being on birth control...

But I don't give in to the requests for no protection. I'm a Scorpio, so I already know my raised susceptibility to STD's and I'm very cautious about sex.

*Edit: Lara, exactly!! Great point about "the pill", those are precisely my thoughts as well.

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posted December 12, 2008 04:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Deliverance     Edit/Delete Message
If you don't want STDs keep your dyam legs shut. <kisses teeth>

LOL

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Lara
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posted December 12, 2008 04:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
Scorpionic
Both my younger sisters are on pill and use no other protection. I think they are playing russian roulette - and my aries stellium def tells them so

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posted December 12, 2008 05:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message
quote:
What can indicate sexually transmitted diseases?

Does it burn when you pee? That can be an indication.

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Azalaksh
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posted December 12, 2008 05:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Azalaksh     Edit/Delete Message
good girl ~
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But I for one think it is a valid question to ask. And the question was what 'indicates' not 'causes' disease.
I realize the verb "indicates" was used -- and perhaps instead of *cause* I should have used the word *means* -- but I don't think it's fair to even attempt to assign a planet/in sign/in house (via speculation and discourse at forums like this), or a particular aspect between planets, the meaning of You'll Get STD's With This Aspect. There's enough terror on this forum with people dreading Pluto and Saturn transits

Main Entry: in·di·cate
Pronunciation: \in-di-kāt\
Function: transitive verb
Inflected Form(s): in·di·cat·ed; in·di·cat·ing
Etymology: Latin indicatus, past participle of indicare, from in- + dicare to proclaim, dedicate — more at diction
Date: 1541

1a: to point out or point to
1b: to be a sign of, symptom of, or index of <the high fever indicates a serious condition>
1c: to demonstrate or suggest the necessity or advisability of <indicated the need for a new school> <the indicated treatment>
2: to state or express briefly <indicated a desire to cooperate>

It could easily follow (at least in my twisty little mind ) that if something is "proclaimed" as such-and-such, that it MEANS such-and-such.....
And there seem to be many students of Astrology who believe that planets/placements DO cause events......

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good girl
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posted December 13, 2008 07:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for good girl     Edit/Delete Message
Azalaksh;

How is it any different than asking what planets, signs, aspects are linked to cancer, accidents, rape...etc.

Yes, it should be stessed that these things are never caused by astrology, but it can ( I think ) show that it may be more likely in one person than another. Or don't you agree?

I agree there's enough terror on this forum. (I saw the thread entitled 'I'm afraid I'm gonna die.')But I think the discussion about the transits occurring at the time of family member's death are worse. And frankly if someone is superstitious about astrology they should get out of it. I wonder if it irritated people because this particular disease was sexual. Or perhaps because there was a minor involved.

I am particularly sensitive about this thread because I've recently become interested in medical astrology. And books don't always give you the insight that you gain from talking to other people who have experienced something first hand.

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posted December 13, 2008 07:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VirgOh     Edit/Delete Message
Good point Good Girl

We also need a thread on "What aspects are linked to PMS" because some people seem to suffer from a severe ongoing case of PMS judging by their replies to a few threads lately.

Or is it a severe case of "Look at me I need some attention" lol

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posted December 13, 2008 08:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for enchantress299     Edit/Delete Message
What indicates sexually transmitted diseases? Well, if it's red and itchy... Sorry, it was just begging to be said. As for astro aspects... I don't know that they indicate that.

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Virgo Sun/Aries Moon/Scorpio Rising

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belgz
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posted December 13, 2008 10:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for belgz     Edit/Delete Message
This is a really disgusting topic..

I dont think herpes and STI's may show in our natal charts but significant diseases such as HIV may show in your chart if its a long term illness which causes death.

My friend this guy i know got herpes while he was using a condom because he got his first ulcer around the genital area where he couldnt protect.
She told him that they were ingorwn hairs and she didnt know she had herpes either!

Condoms dont always protect against herpes and if condoms arnt used properly and replaced after ejaculation the semen can leak outside the condom which can result in being exposed to body fluds. (my friend got pregnant like this also)

In turkey its compulsory to have a blood test for all STI and STD's before a legal marriage can take place. I think the whole world should make this compulsory because people who dont care about themselves and contract these diseases dont care whether other peopple get them either..

And YOU CAN NEVER look at someone and assume they are clean or decent. It doesnt matter how many times someone showers or their own self hygiene. I never tell a guy how many people ive slept with and i dont think any other girl tells the truth either and its so easy for everyone to play innocent to impress the other..

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Sun.. Cancer

Moon.. Gemini

Mars.. Cancer

Mercury.. Cancer

Venus.. Leo

Ascendant....... Virgo

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Nightjar
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posted December 14, 2008 06:14 AM           Edit/Delete Message
What sunshine (and others)tried to point out was that it's so common and random that it doesn't make any sense to start listing aspects that may or may not indicate it. Of course you can try to look for configurations you think could indicate the person catching flu, chickenpox or developing a yeast infection, but it is pretty pointless. Or idiotic if you ask me
The whole post from the person who started this thread screams newbie to me, that's why I mentioned the "what astrology can and can not do" thread. Generally speaking, it's good to start from trying to understand all the basics and progress from there, rather than try to look for an aspect for a wart on a toe.

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I dont think herpes and STI's may show in our natal charts but significant diseases such as HIV may show in your chart if its a long term illness which causes death.

I'm thinking along the same lines.

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"having unprotected sex"

Exactly..Another one of those post where ppl are using astrology for something as far as I am concern is just common sense..


Yup.

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Nightjar
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posted December 14, 2008 06:58 AM           Edit/Delete Message
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We also need a thread on "What aspects are linked to PMS" because some people seem to suffer from a severe ongoing case of PMS judging by their replies to a few threads lately.

That's an unbelievably cheap shot at any female who writes here (I don't know who you aimed it at, it doesn't matter).

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sunshine_lion
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posted December 14, 2008 07:08 AM           Edit/Delete Message
probobly me.
I thought it was a cheap shot too.
we all have opinions.
I think the t cross full moon was stressful for me for a few days.
I can debate all day, but when people talk about hitting or violence toward anyone, it gets my ire up, and I come across strong sometimes. I am not a full time beeeoootcch.

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