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Topic: mother daughter relationship
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Aphrodite Moderator Posts: 3280 From: San Francisco, CA, United States Registered: Feb 2002
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posted March 26, 2002 02:47 PM
hello lioneyes,i'm looking at your grandmother's chart and have some questions to ask you so i can feel the water, so to speak. i hope you don't mind, but somehow i felt really compelled to look at her's personally first. does she get angry a lot? and when i mean a lot, i am asking at least once a day, or quite a few *major* blowups every few months. i don't feel that she has mellow personality at all. love, aphrodite
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Morning Storm Knowflake Posts: 1778 From: Columbus, GA USA Registered: May 2001
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posted March 26, 2002 06:56 PM
Hi lioneyes,I connected with you to find out what you really need, before answering this question. Then I came here to answer it and found out about your grandma and concentrated on it instead. Told you it was all about timing. I'll tell you the astrology later. The lungs are ruled by Gemini and Mercury. Neptune has been squaring your grandmother's Mercury for some time now. It dissolves everything. Unfortunately, it can dissolve that part of your health, too, if you allow it. That's probably when the spot on the lung developed, aided by Pluto being in her house of health--which is squaring her Mars and opposing her Jupiter, and Sag rules her 6th house. That's taking away from her energy to fight it. The Moon is in Virgo today--not the best day to be having a cat scan for the lungs. She may be weaker than expected afterwards and need a lot of tlc. I hope you and your Mom are there to give it to her. You see, the lungs are ruled by the Heart Chakra, and complications with them are due to lack of feeling loved or self-doubt. Given what you said about the relationship you described your Mom and Grandmother, that impacted her greatly (probably more than she is even willing to admit verbally, given many placements and aspects in her chart.) Yet, she is crying out in pain, and it is obviously affecting her physically. No, it's not the only thing that has contributed, so please do NOT think that. Your grandmother has a tendency to hide her pain or hold it in, according to her chart (even if she can be outwardly mouthy) The relationship with her daughter is one of many. The people in her life need to show her unconditional Love to help her get past this. She also needs positive reinforcement to know she's a good person. The transits show it is all karmic in nature, and Chiron is exactly trining her Mercury, so I k-NOW she wants to heal from this and go forward. She's a very stubborn woman, who probably thinks her way is the only way. I hope she is able to let go of this attitude, so she can HEAL. ------------------ To fall in Love, is to rise. . . . ~Upendra
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Morning Storm Knowflake Posts: 1778 From: Columbus, GA USA Registered: May 2001
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posted March 26, 2002 06:57 PM
BTW, one of the things that came to me while I was connecting with you is that it doesn't matter what the aspects are between your Mom and Grandmother. Your mother needs to forgive and go forward, if she understands them or not. Astrology is merely a tool to help you understand the personality you chose to portray and act out in this life, but it's not who yOu are. So, regardless of the aspects, you can choose be yOu and rise above them, and heal the pain. Yes, astrology can help you learn where the challenges are in relationships in the here and now, but your mother can forgive and Love her unconditionally w/o knowing them. One of the best ways to do that is just to be there for your grandmother, continuously. One of the things Randall and Greg have both taught me in this life is the little things are what we trust in life. The big things can be sweet or harsh, but they aren't the things you rely on and trust in life. It may be easier to remember the big things, but when the chips are down, do you go to the date who has bought you roses for Valentine's Day or the person who has been there for you every single time you need someone to talk to?? The big things pass, the little things continue. So, you and your Mom need to be there for your Grandmother continuously, regardless of the aspects. Forgive and allow healing to begin. It will mean more in the long run than sending her flowers while she's in the hospital. The big fights between them will pass, if the little things are allowed to continue. The big fights are just tests anyway. Plus, they wouldn't occur if the two didn't trust each other on a much deeper level. An example to help you with this is the fight between Greg and Randall. Remember the big fight between Greg and Randall when Greg exploded at Randall on his site?? Well, that was just a big thing. It was Greg releasing emotions and anger within that he needed to re-LEASE. He obviously trusted Randall enough to vent at him, and to me through him. It was a choice the three of us made at a deeper level and agreed to it. He knew Randall and me would Love him unconditionally and forgive, at least eventually. Sure it caused hard feelings and was a challenge for all of us, but we all knew it was one of the big things that would pass, because we all Love each other and have been there for each other continuously. It hasn't always been smooth, but regardless, the Love is always there, and the forgiveness is as well, because of the Love. Greg is still the one I turn to when I need help with astrology or when the sick Soul in England insists on harassing me, or when I just need a friend to talk to. I turn to him regardless of that incident, because he has shown me over the years that he Loves me unconditionally and has shown he will always be there, and support me. Your Grandmother needs the same kind of continous support from you, regardless of past fights. It's actually the little things she keeps inside that hurt the relationship the most. The anger simmers until it boils and eventually explodes. If the little things are voiced and kept in control and Love is used as a salve to heal the little things, there won't be a need for them to simmer and eventually boil. So, I hope you and your Mom can be there for your Grandmother and help her through this time. It's something that she will carry with her long after she chooses to leave this plane. She really needs you.... White light to your Grandmother. Oooh, I just sent it to her for comfort, and she embraced it.  Lots of Love to all of you! Now, I'm 1 1/2 hours late, because it took so long to write this and I gotta go! ------------------ To fall in Love, is to rise. . . . ~Upendra
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Princess Knowflake Posts: 843 From: Milky Way Registered: Feb 2002
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posted March 26, 2002 10:57 PM
Auriel~ YOu are so good  Lioneyes~ and White Lite to you and your Moms  ~Princess ------------------ "I think the Goddess lives in our humanity, and not anywhere else." ~Merlin's last words - to Viviann ~ . + * + . * . Mists of Avalon . + * + . * . ~ IP: Logged |
Morning Storm Knowflake Posts: 1778 From: Columbus, GA USA Registered: May 2001
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posted March 27, 2002 01:27 AM
lioneyes, it was strange I was looking for a quote to post and this was the first one I found. I k-NOW it's meant for you, so will post it here intead of Words of Love.Love is the power that heals the soul and mends hearts. ~Jill Harrison 
------------------ To fall in Love, is to rise. . . . ~Upendra IP: Logged |
Aphrodite Moderator Posts: 3280 From: San Francisco, CA, United States Registered: Feb 2002
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posted March 27, 2002 11:12 AM
lots of love to you and your family, dear lioneyesIP: Logged |
Morning Storm Knowflake Posts: 1778 From: Columbus, GA USA Registered: May 2001
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posted April 11, 2002 05:21 PM
lioneyes,Your relationship with your mother HAS spanned many lifetimes together. I see she was your mother in another life, and a sibling in even another one. You had challenges and often disagreed when she was your mother before, but were very close and had a sweet bond when you were siblings. In this life, I see the deep emotional bond you mentioned, as her Moon sextiles your Venus/Saturn conjunction, and opposes your Jupiter. An opposition to Jupiter is a sweet aspect as far as I'm concerned. Most astrologers disagree with me, but I have this thing against Jupiter trines, because they make you lazy. The opposition helps you balance things. Your Moon sextiles her Sun/Jupiter conjunction, which adds even more sweetness to your relationship. It opposes her Pluto, which is a very deep and profound aspect. There will be times it will add emotional balance to your relationship and others, it will bring emotional upsets between you. As for your mother and grandmother, they have Moon conjunct Mars, and a double Sun square Mars, which all together is equal to an emotional firecracker constantly being set off. They aren't easy aspects, to say the least. Your mother needs to learn not to be so sensitive and your grandmother needs to learn not to be so harsh when your mother does get emotional. Your grandmother was your mother's mother in their last life together, too. And your mother was a mother to your grandmother in another one. They had many challenging times together in their other lives as well. I guess that's why when I connected to you, I felt their need to forget the aspects and heal, regardless of them. It lOOks like they might continue this pattern until they have worked it out between them and allow Love to HEAL them. Most of the Chiron, Saturn, and Pluto aspects between them are very challenging, and they really set up a doozey of a synastry between them. Ouch. They really, really need to let down the walls and negative expectations and go forward in Love. If your mother reaches out to your grandmother, and your grandmother is harsh to her, tell your mother to continue with kindness, and not to retreat in emotional anger and hurt. It HAS to be done to break this pattern. It will NOT be easy, but I promise many here will send lite, well wishes, and positive vibrations to help, if you ask. Good luck to your family. BTW, how is your grandmother doing?  ------------------ To fall in Love, is to rise. . . . ~Upendra IP: Logged | |