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pidaua
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posted May 11, 2002 01:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message
Hi All,

I am a fan of Linda Goodman and I am new to this site. I have always had an interest in various philosphies including astrology. In the past 2 years I have become more of a student of astrology and tried to learn as much as my Sag mind can comprehend. My handsome Leo friend believes we met through fate, which I am inclined to go along with since the hours before a year ago, my stomach was flipping like a fish out of water. I knew that something was going to happen and sure enough, we met. Have you ever had a meeting with someone where everything seemed to stop and fade away, then at once turn to fire works? As Intrigued as I was,he did take me aback at first with his commanding air. LOL.

So, me being a bit skeptical, I am at odds with myself. Can this person really be the one for me, my heart says yes, but as always, I am afraid of the commitment. I have never felt such passion, affection and loyalty with one person in my life. It is as if I have known him forever but it has been so long since I have seen him. Corny? Hmmm?

If anyone can give me some insight, I would love it and be grateful. Here are the details:

Me: 12/16/1969 9:00pm Artesia, California (PST)
Mr. Leo: 7/28/1969 10:59pm Moscow, Idaho (PDT)


Thank you so much.

Pidaua (To Make Glad)

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Cat
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posted May 11, 2002 03:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cat     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Pidaua
Nice to meet you.
Well it's Saturday night and just going to eat so I don't have time to look at your synastry......so I'm cheating

I'm "testing" out an astrology progamme so I've quickly entered your details.
Let me know what you think. I haven't had time to look at it throughly myself...but you'll notice you have good as well "tough" aspects. That's normal....a relationship needs some challenges otherwise it would be boring But you need to be very aware of the stressful aspects.

Anyway I'll copy and paste it here so you have something to look at tonight.
Love
Sue

PS: I'm not a professional astrologer - still learning. I'd be interested to hear your thoughts though as like I said I've not used an "astrology programme" before - I usually take more time and look at the aspects myself.

Pidaua Aspect Mr Leo Orb
Sun Opposition Venus 0.42
Sun Semi-sextile Neptune 0.52
Sun Square Pluto 1.51
Moon Trine Sun 3.35
Moon Sextile Moon 1.42
Moon Trine Mercury
Moon Square Midheaven 0.50
Mercury Trine Saturn 3.07
Mercury Semi-square Neptune 0.38
Mercury Conjunction Midheaven 2.54
Venus Septile Moon 0.33
Venus Trine Mercury 2.33
Venus Trine Ascendant 2.58
Mars Inconjunct Jupiter 0.50
Mars Inconjunct Uranus 0.11
Jupiter Semi-sextile Uranus 0.55
Saturn Septile Venus 0.38
Saturn Inconjunct Jupiter 0.18
Uranus Trine Moon 0.37
Uranus Inconjunct Saturn 0.02
Uranus Square Midheaven 0.15
Neptune Sextile Uranus 1.37
Neptune Conjunction Neptune 3.27
Pluto Septile Sun 0.01
Pluto Semi-square Mercury 0.56
Pluto Square Venus 2.58
Pluto Conjunction Jupiter 4.41
Pluto Conjunction Uranus 3.40
Pluto Sextile Neptune 1.24
Pluto Conjunction Pluto 4.07
Ascendant Trine Ascendant 1.29
Midheaven Square Mercury 1.44
Midheaven Sesquiquadrate Uranus 0.59

Inter-planetary aspects
These concern the possible relationships between two charts: especially the emotional relationship , but also those on the social, intellectual and spiritual levels.

Pidaua Trine Mr Leo Sun - Moon

Positive aspect: It's an excellent aspect for a union: they are made to go well together, to understand, appreciate, love and complement each other.

Pidaua Sextile Mr Leo Moon - Moon

Positive aspect: They know exactly how to interpret the other person, to see how they feel, to understand them.

Pidaua Opposition Mr Leo Sun - Venus

Negative aspect: The two persons are drawn towards each other, but the union is unstable, because there will inevitably be division, probably through misunderstanding on the sexual level, which may frustrate the partner.

Pidaua Trine Mr Leo Moon - Mercury

Positive aspect: Ideal aspect for a couple, they will have lots of interests and projects in common, they will understand each other perfectly, feeling what the other feels.

Pidaua Square Mr Leo Sun - Pluto

Negative aspect: A great physical attraction will unite the couple, but these relationships are not healthy. Pluto tries to change the Sun, which is not at all appreciated, and this leads to sometimes violent conflict.

Pidaua Trine Mr Leo Mercury - Venus

Positive aspect: A relationship which will be agreeable, they will like to speak to each other, have a good intellectual understanding, their tastes will be very similar, they will like to share their feelings with each other.

Pidaua Trine Mr Leo Moon - Uranus

Positive aspect: They will be very attracted to each other. They will have a life together that will be far from monotonous, sometimes quite out of the ordinary, thanks to Uranus. A life certainly full of surprises and not always agreeable for one of the two.

Pidaua Trine Mr Leo Mercury - Saturn

Positive aspect: If Mercury is looking for a mother or father in the spouse, then this aspect is very favorable. Saturn will give a lot on the intellectual level and in life in general.

Pidaua Square Mr Leo Venus - Pluto

Negative aspect: A very strong passion but destructive, to be avoided if at all possible.

Pidaua Conjunction Mr Leo Jupiter - Pluto

Positive aspect: A possible union. Look at the other aspects to interpret exactly.

Pidaua Septile Mr Leo Moon - Venus

Positive aspect: They get on together very well, be it on the intellectual or the emotional level. They love to be together and appreciate each other's company.

Pidaua Septile Mr Leo Sun - Pluto

Positive aspect: It's love-at-first-sight, the great passion; they will be drawn to each other like two magnets, they will always have to see and touch each other. Very good sexual understanding, typically very passionate. It must be said that this type of relationship won't last forever, it won't develop into a quiet and tender love and even less so into friendship. One will suffer when the passion of the other dies, it will be a very difficult time to live through.

Pidaua Septile Mr Leo Venus - Saturn

Positive aspect: This union could be favorable and lasting, if Venus is really looking for a Saturn.

Pidaua Inconjunct Mr Leo Mars - Uranus

Positive aspect: Favorable for union, linking originality to initiative and decision-making.

Pidaua Inconjunct Mr Leo Jupiter - Saturn

Positive aspect: A favorable union, a joyful family life, thanks to Saturn, this couple will never go lightly into any adventure but will work out and think through everything.

Pidaua Inconjunct Mr Leo Saturn - Uranus

Positive aspect: Favorable union, linking invention and originality with common sense and thoughtfulness. They might do great things together.

Pidaua Semi-sextile Mr Leo Sun - Neptune

Positive aspect: They will be greatly attracted by each other, not necessarily physically. With the problems of everyday life, this love will vanish and each will no longer understand what they found so attractive in the other.

Pidaua Semi-square Mr Leo Mercury - Neptune

Negative aspect: This relationship can only bring illusions, and therefore also disappointments will follow. These two people can never understand each other and if they insist on living together, it will be with lies and deception.

Pidaua Inconjunct Mr Leo Mars - Jupiter

Positive aspect: The couple will be in harmony, even if they are different they complement each other perfectly and understand each other very well. They go well together.

Pidaua Semi-square Mr Leo Mercury - Pluto

Negative aspect: This union is not to be recommended, it can be destructive and dangerous.

Pidaua Semi-sextile Mr Leo Jupiter - Uranus

Positive aspect: This union can be favorable, if the two mutually respect each other. They both like their independence, their freedom of thought and action.

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posted May 11, 2002 09:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message
Welcome to the site, Pid!

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Starchild020
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posted May 12, 2002 02:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Starchild020     Edit/Delete Message
Hi pidaua,
Ok from what I see on both your charts, you share quiet a bit in common. You both made good first impressions, and thier will always be a natural friendship between you both. You must feel very comfortable near him. Your ascendant is Leo opposite his moon sign, and so you must sense a huge amount of attraction towards him. Everything is pretty good until your mars and venus square his mars and venus. These aspects definitly garantee conflict, in which many arguments will be won by him becuase your mars is in pisces, and so this will greatly disturb your own personality. He will seem to be the one thats always right and its his way, or the highway. So like some argument will occur about where both of you should go for the holidays. (this is just an example, so just go with it)you insist that both of you need go to your mothers house because she'll be mad if you dont, but he hates your mother and insists that you both spend the holidays at some ski resort. You will both argue for awhile and he will win becuase he convinced you that you love to ski. So you'll go to the ski resort and have a great time, but then when your mother calls and say she's upset. You'll quikly turn on him, and say that its all his fault. Thus beginning another argument. But not to worry, many relationships need conflict just as much as they need harmony. But even though these aspects square, his aspects definitly trine other more important aspects from your own birth chart. The only thing is, his arguments will win over yours unless he backs down (which is rarely) or he knows he's completley wrong. I really think that this relationship is compatible, and if your heart is saying yes. Listen to me as a wise Pisces with a gemini moon, GO FOR IT. Theres nothing to lose. Astrology can tell you a lot, but your still in control of the choices you make and what you listen to. If you like you've known him, chances are you have. You may have known him in a pastlife. Maybe he was your brother or some sort of relative which is why you share a lot in common. He may very well be your TWIN SOUL. The relationship has good potential for marriage and raising kids.
Caution: Theres a lot of passionate fire going on, becareful not to fizzle out!

-Starchild

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pidaua
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posted May 13, 2002 01:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Cat, Randall and Starchild,

Thanks for the welcome!!! I also really appreciate the responses.

The Leo and I do get along incredibly well, but it is true about the power struggle. I find that he does want to be in control and make decisions, but I seem to fight it. It could also be because I work with him and in an industry where I deal with strong men on a daily basis.

I am not sure if maybe my Pisces Mars is not as expressive due to the other fire elements in my chart, but I do not have a problem fighting back and I do seem to win more than my share of arguments, but I think that is due to the force of my moon. I will concede that once I let down those walls, I will probably have a tendency to agree with him about certain things. We have so many things in common and we are so much alike that there are not too many things that we disagree on except a few of them.

He is more stuck in his ways (wow, that is so not a suprise..LOL) and being more traditional he likes things a certain way as well as old music and old TV shows. I am more progressive and love to learn about everything. I am especially interested in religions / science (especially since I am a science / business geek) and astrology / american indian studies. We have influenced each other in that he has become more open minded and I have slowed down a bit.

We are, literally, the Cowboy and the Indian. The funny thing is that I had always told my mother and father I would fall in love and marry a Cowboy and he was always looking for his Indian Maiden.

On political, career, family and traditional religious concepts, we both agree.

You are very right in that it is a very passionate relationship. There is something quite strong that neither of us had ever experienced before and it does intrigue and scare both of us.

Cat, thanks for the information from the program. It think it hit some valid points, but was a bit brutal in some of the analysis. I look up some of the aspects in various books (including LG's Relationship Signs) which was a bit easier to understand.

I look forward to more communications in the future. I love this site!!

Take care,

Pidaua


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posted May 13, 2002 03:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cat     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Pidaua

I'm glad you found that analysis of some help and yes I do agree with you....this programme does have a brutal way with words!!!

I checked out my own synastry with my ex (we were together for 12 years)......You think it was brutal with you....lol...just take a look at this.....

Cat Square Ex's Sun - Jupiter

Negative aspect: While they get on well when they first meet, sharing the same ideas and tastes, with the years their ideas change and they do not develop in the same way. They will no longer understand each other and could split up because they no longer love each other, have nothing more in common.

Cat Square Ex's Moon - Pluto

Negative aspect: Great physical attraction, uncontrolled passion, possessiveness, jealousy and suffocation. This relationship is very negative because it is destructive, even fatal. Problems on the sexual level. It will be very difficult to get over this relationship, if it is possible to get over it

Cat Square Ex's Mars - Pluto

Negative aspect: Sexual passion leading to destruction. It will be very difficult to pick oneself up after such a relationship. To be avoided at all costs, nothing agreeable can come of this union.

Cat Trine Ex's Moon - Pluto

Positive aspect: An uncontrollable great passion which might be a nuisance, as it totally lacks thought or control. Jealousy, possessiveness, absolute need of the other's presence 24 hours out of 24. Needless to say, this type of relationship is not able to last.

Cat Opposition Ex's Mercury - Pluto

Negative aspect: This union is not to be recommended, it can be destructive and dangerous.

Ok I only posted the bad ones...there were a lot of good ones as well But like you say...it's brutal

Anyway I took a quick look at your transits...You currently have Uranus transiting your 7th house (and it'll be there for a while yet). Uranus is the "rebel" planet an can bring sudden/unexpected happenings. 7th house = relationships. Chiron (healing) is also transiting your 5th house (romance). Pluto (regeneration/change) is transiting your 4th house (home). Jupiter & Venus transiting your 11th (friendships). Plus you have a lot of planets currently transiting your 10th (career)....Sun, Moon, Mercury, saturn, Node & Mars.

Can you relate to those influences?
Love
Sue

PS: You both have a lot of fire in your charts
Mr Leo only has one planet in water (Neptune). So that is the singleton in his chart.
You only have one planet is air (Uranus). So that is a singleton in your chart.
Note: Not everyone has a singleton in there chart. A singleton stands alone and is very important in the influence it has.

Back to your chart for a minute.....
Uranus opposes your Moon. Hmmm this could cause you some problems with regards to relationships. This aspect can make you have a fear of being "abandoned" so much so that if you start to feel you need someone..you run OR you behave in such a way that you make them run.....
There is also a tendency to be attracted to someone who is unavailable (married or out of town). In fact, the more unavailable the love interest, the greater the attraction.

PPS: In Mr Leo's natal chart...every single planet makes an aspect to his moon. They're not all major aspects but I've never seen that in a chart before.

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posted May 13, 2002 04:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Starchild020     Edit/Delete Message
Hey Pidaua

Thanks for telling me what I was wrong with, I still need practice. Anyhow I think what I did, was put way to much emphasis on your Mars: Pisces since that position usually softens people greatly. But I should have realized that in you, it wouldn't be possible since all three fire signs are in your chart (that practically dehydrates Pisces) So most of the time you do win your battles, good for you But I'm sure that when you start fighting with him, he'll be very tough to argue with. Always remember that Lions are the kings of the jungle. So it's nice that your Mars is in Pisces becuase that will definitley make it easier for you to back down to him. Pisces usually respects and looks up to leo, always realizing that fighting will never work. Pisces loves to flatter the lion and the leon protects and enjoys Pisces So I believe that naturally you would never really want to fight with him. Another thing is you want to avoid fizzling out! Becuase there is so much fire going on between both your charts that eventually you may burn out and become bored of each other. But that may not happen as well becuase both your mars and venus square each other and so conflicts and problems will usually keep the fire burning and make it stronger. (you need conflict just as much as harmony) so thats good,
You are a very lucky person, because you have a triple trine in your chart, a lot of things come very easy to you. You treat many people with warmth and compassion, and many are attracted to you. But maybe you can also be a little aggressive and very blunt, just a bit more then needed, I'm sure
Also since your mars squares your venus, you may find it hard to trust your feelings with love, (always thinking that maybe, they just want you for your body, which isn't the case.)I really think you should go for it ALL with this guy, and I wouldn't be surprised (don't be shocked) if you marry him.

Also may I ask you some irrelavant questions?
Do you feel a little threatened by people, who have lots of water signs? Or are you attracted to them? Do you have any friends with more then one water sign? Do you trust them? Would you ever date them? How about water/air signs?
...just wondering...

-Starchild

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posted May 13, 2002 05:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cat     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Starchild
Nice to meet you.

I was very interested in reading your interpretations
I hope you don't mind me asking you this, but which chart type and what orbs do you use? It's just that I can't see any aspects at all between Mars and Venus in Pidaua's chart.

Love
Sue

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pidaua
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posted May 13, 2002 05:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Cat,

Thanks for the information, wow, it sounds like you and your ex had some major storms and fire hot passion. I read where is said that it may have been impossible to get over, was it?

About the transit section: I have been feeling major influences in my career and love life. My biggest influence has been with my career. For over a year now I have moved out of the lab and into the business / marketing part of my job. I get to travel all over the US and work with ranchers / farmers and distributors. I've also been able to use my artistic abilities by designing / drawing advertisements for magazines. My circle of friends has become huge now and I can't believe how my "social" life has changed.

My moon opposed uranus sounds about right. I wonder if my being a Sag and wanting to keep my freedom, combined with the opposition is what has enabled me to stay away from relationships. I never thought I feared being abandoned, by biggest fear is being controlled or told that I can't accomplish something. I DO RUN.... Mr. Leo has even caught me on those occasions and helped me realize what I was doing. Actually, getting into astrology has helped me understand myself and others so much more. I am looking forward to learning even more about it.

Thanks again,

Pidaua

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posted May 13, 2002 06:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Starchild,

Thanks for more information. I didn't think that you were totally wrong, just a bit off. I am thankful that I have the Pisces Mars, it does help with the fire aspects, I am hoping that the Scorp Jupiter and Neptune keep Mars hydrated. LOL....

It is true though that I hate fighting with him, it's not something that happens to often, but I think that I forget about his sensitivity. He has a big heart and a big roar when he feels hurt. I find that we spend so much time laughing and sparring with each other verbally, which makes it exciting. Right now, we are separated by distance, but our work brings us together once a month or more. Soon I should be moving back out West (maybe in year or so).

It has only been in the last year or two that I have begun to trust "love" or my feelings about it. I would get scared and want to run like hell, but Mr. Leo really did help me through some tough times. He was there for me when I lost my grandmother. My family is very close and she lived with me since I was 6 or 7. She died in December and I thought I would never feel right again. I had never experienced such grief before. He lost his sister 20 years ago and also found out his grandmother was dying. We comforted each other and he knew exactly what I was going through. He called me three times a day to make sure I was alright. I couldn't have loved him more and I am sure that is why I love him so much now.

He just lost his grandmother and I understood his grief. We spent hours talking about the pain and I did my best to cheer him up....jester for the Royal Lion.

About the Water signs...believe or not, my mother is a Cancer with a Cancer Moon and Scorpio Ascendent. My best friend is a Scorpio with a Cancer Moon and Pisces Ascendent. My brother is a Sag Sun, Scorp Moon and Aquarius Asc and my Dad is a Cappy Sun, Cancer Moon. I am cool with Water and air signs, but Gemini's are hard for me to understand. I do feel like every Gem in my life has tried to put one over on me. I dig Libra's and Aquarians. Believe it or not, I have mostly dated Water and Earth signs. My longest relationships have been with 1 Sag, 1 Pisces, 1 Virgo and now Mr. Leo. I worry that the water signs are too sensitive and that I may hurt their feelings rather easily.

As to the Earth signs, I think their cool too. I seem to attract Virgo and Taurus men mostly. I DO think they want me for my body...LOL

Starchild, do you notice any major affects with your Sun being square to your moon?


Cat: About my planets all in aspect to Mr. Leo's moon. Does that mean something wierd?

Thanks again!!!!

Pidaua

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posted May 14, 2002 07:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cat     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Piduau

Well yes.....it's been a total nightmare with my ex...I'm still in a big legal battle with him and that's been going on for 2 and a half years. If only I'd understood astrology 15 years ago......I would have avoided him like the plague (he doesn't have a great chart)

Anyway I've certainly learnt a lot.....

Sorry I confused you re Mr Leo and the Moon aspects. I was talking about his natal chart aspects not aspects that your chart makes to his.

OK to clarify......
In his natal chart everything (in his chart)makes an aspect to his Moon.......
Moon opp Sun @ 1 degree
Mercury opp Moon @ 5 degree
Venus sesquare Moon @ 1 degree
Mars sextile Moon @ 3 degree
Jupiter trine Moon @ 5 degree
Saturn square Moon @ 0 degree
Uranus trine Moon @ 6 degree
Neptune quintile Moon @ 0 degree
Pluto sesquare Moon @ 0 degree
Node semi-square Moon @ 0 degree
Chiron sextile Moon @ 1 degree
Asc quintile Moon @ 1 degree
MC semi-sextile Moon @ 0 degree

Note: Usually only look at major aspects.

I just thought it was interesting especially as he has a lack of water in his chart.

The absence or limitation of Water signs in a horoscope suggests that you may have difficulty understanding the deeper meanings of events and circumstances. You may be a little lacking in emotional intensity. This is not to say that you have no feelings, but it does mean that your emotions are not easily engaged and they really don't run deep. You aren't so apt to form those extremely close friendships and relationships, and you may even feel smothered and threatened by strong emotional demands of others. You recover quickly from emotional bumps and scrapes, never letting your disappointments get you down. Depression is never apt to be a problem. Many of the aspects of not having water signs are positive, but on the negative side, you must guard against becoming rather detached and unfeeling.

So taking that into account and bearing in mind that the Moon rules emotions...I just found all those aspects to his Moon interesting.

Now if we also take into account your chart with your Uranus/Moon = runner
Plus the fact that as a Saggi you like your freedom.......
His lack of water would probably suit you as otherwise you'd feel smothered.

It's always important to look at each persons natal chart seperately - that way you can understand how they are as a person and how they are likely to react to things.
Then when you look at the synastry chart you can understand where each person "is coming from".
Hope that makes sense

Love
Sue

PS: Just a question re your Uranus opp Moon. How was your relationship with your Mother?
Did you ever feel that she didn't spend enough time with you? Did you ever feel that she wasn't "always there for you" when you needed support?
Hope you don't mind me asking this and you can tell me to "mind my own business".....
It's just that this aspect also points to that.

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posted May 14, 2002 09:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Cat,

You can ask me anything, it's fine. My mom and I have a great relationship...now. When I was young I was closer to my Cappy dad, infact, my personality is alot like his. My mom is very, well overly emotional, although she was totally emotionally available for me. She is pretty selfish and always expected people to do things for her, maybe because she came from a privilaged background.

Anyway, she really wanted me to be emotional with her, to validate her, but she wasn't the same for me. I had to work hard to get her approval and never seemed to do anything right. Combine her perfectionism with my fathers work drive and it's no wonder I am a perfectionistic workaholic, but I love my job.

When I was little, my mother couldn't handle sickness. If I had the flu, she was out the door and my Leo grandmother was there to nurse my Sag bro and I. We were well taken care of, but I wonder if it would have been the same if my grandmother hadn't lived with us.

My mother has changed now, grown up and so have I. I see that it must have been so hard for her to have me at age 21 and my bro at age 25. She then had to deal with my father and a divorce at age 31. I respect her emotions now, but she can be a bit smothering.

Now, back to Mr. Leo. I do love the fact that he is not too smothering. He does seem rather emotional, but in a certain way. He is passionate and has emotions on a certain level, but tries not to show them. He gets flustered and has to run to his cave.. then he comes out to talk. I have found him to be more emotional that my Virgo ex. (His b-day was 8/31/53 Larchmont, NY 10:30pm). The virgo let me wither without any emotional or physical attention at all. That sucked!...


But life brings changes, Thank God.. I have noticed that somehow I strike a cord in Mr. Leo. We have had long discussions and my fear is that he "feels" too much at times and it scares him, that and he has told me as much. He doesn't run (that's me), but he starts to close up. That's when I just give him his space and wait for him to come back to Earth. He does the same for me when my Aries Moon and Sag temper come out fighting without notice.

Cat,

I am so sorry for your legal problems. My mom and dad went through a dreadful divorce that cost so much, financially and emotionally. Life never gives us more than we can handle, it just feels that way. Hell, I moved across the country for the Virgo, to a place where I new no one. Even though he left my heart sad, my career blossomed, I have more friends than I ever thought and a new love has entered my life.

I do appreciate all the help you have given me. I do have one more question. What does it mean not to have more than one air planet?

Thanks again,

Pidaua

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posted May 14, 2002 04:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Starchild020     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Piduau

Wow, as a matter of fact my sun does square my moon, I have a Pisces sun and Gemini moon. How did you know that? What does it mean? I'm very surprised that you get along with water people as you say. Becuase I figured that people who have a lot of fire signs would generally try to avoid watery people because you know water/fire can both extinguish the other. mmmmmm...I'll have to realize that next time. Anyhow your mom must have been very emotional. Cancers always attract Capricorns so theirs no surprise that she got married to your dad, they must've loved each other in the beginning. But why would they get a divorce? Anyhow goodluck with Mr.Leo

As for Cat I dont know what I use, all I know is I use this program called ASTROLOG and it shows me any chart that I want. The only problem I have with it is that I suck at figuring out time zones (and like thats pretty important) So I have no idea what HST,PST...stand for! So maybe I got that wrong I don't know.

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posted May 14, 2002 07:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Morning Storm     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks for helping Starchild. This is THE best way to really learn astrology! Before you know, you'll be right on almost every time. Please feel free to stick around and help/learn some more.


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Hi Starchild

Hope you're having a good day.

I know what you mean about trying to figure out the times......
I get totally confused with American times and states.....I'm English - living in London.

I use www.astro.com
web site which I find to be pretty good as long as I get the state right
It seems to automatically get the correct time.

Love
Sue

Hi Auriel
Hope you had a good break
Love
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Hi Piduaua

I've just got home (it's 1am ) so I'll answer you in the morning.

Hope things are going well for you
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posted May 14, 2002 09:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Starchild,

I think that you mentioned that you had a Pisces Sun and Gemini Moon, that's how I knew. I have a book on emotions and signs. It talks about the fact that many people under estimate the emotions of fire signs and over estimate some of the emotions of water signs. In actuality, we are both very much alike, but I think that the fire signs tend to be more demonstrative of anger and fighting for a cause, whereas water signs are more demonstrative in feelings and compassion.

I was afraid of water signs for awhile, sometimes the emotions feel a bit smothering, but then again my sense of passion can be quite scary for a water sign. Having a Cancer Mom really helped. She and my father share the same cancer moon, but they married so young (She was 20 and he was 23) I think that they just grew apart. His cheating didn't help things. The funny thing is, he is now married to a woman that is like my mom and she is a Pisces. He loves the water signs.


Hi Cat,

No problem. I look forward to hearing from you tomorrow. I will be checking the boards late. I am out on business and working in the field...yippee, I love being outside. Today I spent a few hours at a horse farm. I love hanging with the horses, there was even a wee baby..Dixie.. I am the biggest sucker for animals, they know it too.

Take care everyone and have a great night!!!


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Hi Pidaua

Hope you're having a good day.
I was lol @ u and horses.......sooo saggi. That's great (I have a saggi moon)

Thank you for explaining to me about your relationship with your Mum. That really does fit that Uranus/Moon opp - especially you saying she was over emotional.

Mr Leo getting flustered......well all those aspects in his natal chart to his Moon have got to be doing something to his emotions. I don't have time right now to look at it in more detail but if you look at each planet, then think about how that planet works. Then think how that "force" would affect his moon/emotions.

Ok you asked about a lack of air in your chart........

The limited amount of the Air element in your horoscope suggests a need to learn adaptability and the use of the mental functions in a creative manner. You don't emphasise mental activity in your daily life. This is not to say that you aren't intelligent, but just that you don't place a lot of value on the world of ideas and education's for education sake. Often, a shortage of Air signs signifies an inability to communicate effectively or clearly; you may be somewhat enigmatic and obscure. Sometimes there is a self-consciousness associated with such circumstances, and you may over-compensate by working hard to improve such inclinations. You probably don't enjoy learning unless what you're studying has an immediate and tangible end. A strength of the air-weak chart is generally the enhanced ability to communicate emotionally, physically or psychically. It may be hard for you to stand back and clearly view an issue in an objective manner. Thus, there is a tendency to have some trouble in the task of planning ahead. You may find yourself wasting a lot of energy on this account. You should try to make a special effort to communicate clearly and plan very carefully or your advancement will come only through costly trial and error.

Chat later
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Hi Cat,

Thanks for the info. I am wondering if some other aspects / planets in my chart must overide that lack of air. I spend most of my day working on logistics with the management of products in the Biotech industry for the ag market. I worked in research for years and speak in front of large groups of people and also spent time teaching microbiology labs.

As far as the education, I have to always continue my education in Biotechnology and in the agriculture market due to the ever changing technology. I think that my Sag influence must be what keeps me looking at the big picture, but I do tend to take failures personally. In the past three years I left a position as the Diagnositic lab manager for veterinary resources and moved into a Research Associate position at my current company, only to move to the marketing, product management position that I have now.

Although I can stand back and evaluate a position somewhat objectively, I do not totally pull myself from it. In science I had to because that is a part of science, but I am still very passionate about my work. Maybe I began to recognize the lack of objectivity and threw myself into it.

Oh well, the planets are so full of surprises. For all I know that Aries moon is pushing me into those things where I should be lacking in order to conquer the fears.


I have to run...more stuff to work on before I turn in.

Have a great night Cat!!

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Starchild, pidua's Mars in Pisces is also diluted because it's squaring her Neptune. Neptune rules Pisces, so isn't comfortable with that at all.

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Hi Morning Storm,


Thanks for the information. What does it mean to have Mars squaring Neptune? What kind of an effect would that have on Pisces? I appreciate the information. I hope all is well.


Hi Starchild and Cat. I hope things are going well for you all.


Take Care,

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Mars in Pisces squaring Neptune means you may live with rose colored glasses on and fool yourself that things are as you want to see them rather than as they really are. The best way to handle it, is work on developing your instincts and intuition and then trust it. Be careful who you hang out with and date. You are prone to addictions, so stay away from drugs/alcohol/gambling and stuff like that. Be careful not to deceive people, because with that square, you are likely to try it, and it's likely to smack you right back. You should meditate and pour white lite into your 3rd eye and let it flow through your whole entire body. Then, lOOk at situations while you're meditating. If you do that on a regular basis, it'll help you majorly on your path to discovering yOu.

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