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Oxychick
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posted October 14, 2002 04:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Oxychick     Edit/Delete Message
That's right, I said Phooey!! SO I joke around a little...lighten up! And why can't they just say what's on their freakin' minds? I'm not psychic (at least I don't think so-anyone want to see if I have a psychic aspects in my chart?) so i can't read his mind and ugh....their moods do change a lot, don't they? One minute they're all over you and the next they won't give you a clue as to whether or not they really want to see you. Grrrr

I just needed to let that out.

I guess my being an air sign doesn;t help.

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Aphrodite
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posted October 14, 2002 04:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aphrodite     Edit/Delete Message
hi oxychick . . .

hehe

i'm a cancer rising.

just be more, erm considerate. and don't push too hard . . . tangibly speaking, and in unspoken energies . . .

*hugs* you'll be okay.

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chocoholic82
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posted October 14, 2002 10:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for chocoholic82     Edit/Delete Message
I'm a crab, and you see, we like to play mind games, but that's all because in love, we are afraid of getting hurt you know, getting rejected or laughed at and so on. We never go straight to the point but rather, we try everything to make sure we are in an emotionaly or whatever,'safe' relationship and then you should watch out
So, for example, you say the guy (I suspect it's a guy) is all over you and the next he won't give you a clue as to whether or not he want to see you. Well, trust me, if he was all over you he WANTS to see you, but the reson he doesn't is probably because he is playing it cool and expects some kind of response from you to see whether you like him as much as he thought, or something like that. And please remember that we are EXTREMELY sensitive, so as Aphrodite said just don't push it

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moonshadow
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posted October 15, 2002 04:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for moonshadow     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Oxy!

I'm cancerian and I am married to an aquarian. I suppose the challenge is trying to try to understand cancerians from an emotional point of viev and not to try to really conprehend why they do the things they do, most of the time there is little logic involved! What is your moon sign? And his?

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Carlo
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posted October 15, 2002 11:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Carlo     Edit/Delete Message
I am Cancer Rising too, yet don't have those traits that seem to attend Cancer Suns, like being clingy and not letting go, and being so emotional in relationships, thinking the other person just wants to leave, abandonment issues, etc. I went with a Cancer grrl in Spring 2001, and she was "moody-broody", as Linda called it. Yet here is any interesting statistic...I know very few Cancer Sun men. If there is one sign and one sex that there seems to be few of, I would say it is Cancer men. I know like two in my whole life. Is that weird?

Yet one must always look at the symbol of the sign! Cancer...a crab...what does a crab do? Yes, walks sideways! Ever notice Cancer peeps have odd walks? What else? Linda said, "Cancer clings." A crab can grab you with those claws and not let go, and you can cut the claw off, but what happens...it grows right back. And "moody-broody" is a good phrase, especially descriptive of Cancer Moon people. Many people mistake people with Cancer Moon for people with a bipolar disorder, and Cancer Moon people can be especially prone to develop bipolar disorders. I have Jupiter in Cancer Rising, and I have found it just to be a wellspring of optimism. The Aquariaus Moon keeps it real, so I can breeze rather than cling. Then there's Mercury, Venus, and Mars in Leo, which, since we have a year of Jupiter in Leo, I'm with it, enjoying the juiced personality. Yet enough about me, this is all about you Oxy dahling! hope some of this was helpful

Be Blessed,
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Oxychick
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posted October 16, 2002 09:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Oxychick     Edit/Delete Message
Haha guys (and gals), thank you for your insights! As it turns out, that very evening we had a great time together.

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pidaua
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posted October 16, 2002 01:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Carlo,


For some reason I seem to know an inordinate number of Cancer men, people with Cancer moons and Cancer women. Three of the Cancer men that I know have severe emotional issues.

For some reason (please don't get upset, there is always good with bad), the Cancer men that I have worked with and know, must be of the "unevolved" kind. They are prone to temper-tantrums and extreme selfishness. One duped my Cancer mother (cancer moon too) into marriage to try and steal her money. He hated me because I was onto him. I had a background check done only to find he was one of those "scammers" that loved to marry wealthy women only to steal everything they had.

Another Cancer man is the father of a good friend of mine. He was so angry that my friend didn't travel in the snow, through the mountains, with his 9 month pregnant wife, that he has disowned his son. He is also prone to tantrums.

The best case is a Business Manager that I have to work with that constantly goes into my office when I am gone to see what I have, then claims my work as his own. He throws these little hissy fits in the middle of meetings with the CEO when he feels I am getting undo attention and he is a pathological liar.

All three of these Cancer men are over the age of 45, so it's not age.

I have found though, that Cancer women are different as are those with Cancer moons. Emotional, yes, but malicious, no. My mother is a double Cancer with a Scorp rising and although she can be self-centered (her words) she is a loving person that will give anything to help someone in need. My Dad is the same, he has a Cancer moon and Cappy Sun. Me, I am mostly fire, so I am pretty warped in my own way.

My advice to women and Cancer men; Just be careful that you are not getting close to the Unevolved version.

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AmberVonSchriek
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I tend to agree, Oxy. Although my father and brother are Cancers and I adore my brother... relationships with a Cancer with this Aries are... strained!

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Carlo
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posted October 16, 2002 02:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Carlo     Edit/Delete Message
I usually get along okay with Cancers, being a Virgo (hopefully the evolved type lol), there is that Sun sextile at least. Yet I find them to be a bit whiny, like Taurus guys and some Taurus girls. And Cancer is clingy. You always find them running antique stores, doing things where you hold onto things for a long time, symbolically clinging, if not physically. I don't know much about how Cancer men do in intimate relationships, since I know so few, so thanks for the insight

BB,
Carlo

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Oxychick
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posted October 16, 2002 02:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Oxychick     Edit/Delete Message
I never knew Pablo Neruda was a Cancer too...

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Carlo
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posted October 16, 2002 02:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Carlo     Edit/Delete Message
Apparently quite a Cancer!

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Oxychick
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posted October 16, 2002 02:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Oxychick     Edit/Delete Message
Hey Moonshadow-any more advice for an Aquarius on how to deal with a Cancer?? I'll take what you've got.

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Carlo
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posted October 16, 2002 02:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Carlo     Edit/Delete Message
Here's one I love...

Immodest creature, you do not want a woman who will accept your faults, you want one who pretends that you are faultless - one who will caress the hand that strikes her and kiss the lips that lie to her.

~ George Sand (1804 -1876), Sun in Cancer, Moon in Aries trine Venus in Leo

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pidaua
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posted October 16, 2002 04:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message
Carlo,

Wow, that is a pretty "racy" quote. I guess that is to be expected from an Aries Moon...LOL. I have an Aries moon with a Sag Venus and Sag Sun. :P

I am not saying that all Cancer men are bad, just some of the ones that I have encountered. I have only dated one Cancer guy and he was semi-normal...LOL

Mostly, I attract Virgos. I am not sure if it is my Virgo Pluto conjuncting my acendant in the first house, or if it's just my Karma. I posted the question on this forum, but haven't heard anything yet.

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Aphrodite
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posted October 16, 2002 05:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aphrodite     Edit/Delete Message
in my opinion, for the most part, when people act nasty, it is really a part of their insecurity showing and they are using that nastiness to keep people from knowing the vulnerability and fear resting inside. may be they don't even know this themselves. but i think, in my opinion, it's just better to send love energies to them than to spend time understanding the ugliness that is not part of God's plan.

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moonshadow
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posted October 17, 2002 04:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for moonshadow     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Oxy!

I was just looking at your chart in another forum. I must add my husband has his moon in pisces and my ascendant is aquarius. What I'm saying is yes, the sun is very important but you have to look at the whole chart. People are often surprized to learn that I am cancerian as the other factors come into play. Any info on his DOB?

We do need a lot of attention and to feel special. Most aquarians are everyones friend and sometimes you have to make a conscious effort to make a cancerian feel special, not just another friend. You might feel all your friends are equally important and a cancerian will sense that. They won't come out and say it ( maybe an emotional outburst every now and again!) but mostly they will just retreat into their shell and sulk. We also want to feel needed. You are probably quite independant and capable of taking care of yourself but cancerians are generally old fashioned in the sense that they want to be the nurturer or care-taker. Let him feel that you need him to take care of you, even if is only in some area of your life.

Remember that we cannot change who we essentially are and if this relationship is meant to be you will find a way. It is all part of the lessons we chose to learn and advance.

Good luck!

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posted October 18, 2002 10:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusWarriorPrincess     Edit/Delete Message
Aphrodite,

You are so correct! People who are nasty, are one's who are vulnerable and fearful of their emotions. Instead of getting angry back at them, we should allow space and understanding of their weaknessess.
I usually address the situation sweetly, yet in some situations, have gotten equally tough by challenging their unreasonable outburst of behavior. They'd walk away, and I'd follow them. There were times when I'd just say STOP already, grab them, and just HOLD them.
They usually resist, then cry or relax or BOTH!
Course, this only works when you are very close to someone or in a position of getting to know someone intimately.

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posted October 19, 2002 12:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aphrodite     Edit/Delete Message
a sure sign of a libra when they use the word "we" so sweetly to get their point across

but as it is, different folks, different strokes, VenusWarriorPrincess. love energies has many meanings and different expressions, but intent is most important.

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posted October 21, 2002 07:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Shymma     Edit/Delete Message
No, no, no Cancer men are beautiful, like loyal dogs who will never stray. Yes, they may be clingy, moody and a downright damp blanket at times, but their love and loyalty is endless. If you want someone overly expressive in their love you won't find it with him but he will be subtle and know exactly how to care for your heart. I may be biased because I am a Cancer myself, which does make it easier to follow my fellow Cancer partner's moods, but a Cancer male IS beautiful and they are forever.
Don't worry too much about your guy, he is still sussing things out and needs to sense your own vulnerability before he can open upto you. It may take ages for him to be able to trust you, but once he does he wwill respect it and return it forever.
Shym.

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posted October 21, 2002 06:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for proxieme     Edit/Delete Message
...or they're like packrats who never get rid of anything. A Cancer Sun, Cancer Moon, Virgo Rising guy that I knew (but haven't spoken to for almost a year) just e-mailed me & at the bottom of the message was the last thing I wrote him...he hadn't deleted the messege yet. The e-mail that I had sent him had been sitting in his acct. all that time.
That's so bizarre.

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Randall
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posted October 21, 2002 07:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message
Welcome, Shymma!

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VenusWarriorPrincess
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posted October 23, 2002 06:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusWarriorPrincess     Edit/Delete Message
Aphrodite,

Thank you! Yes, we can be sweet. VERY sweet!
I try to get the point across without offending anyone.

Love to you A!
Bet you didn't know that my middle name is Aphrodite too, now did ya?

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Carlo
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posted October 23, 2002 12:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Carlo     Edit/Delete Message
lol Shymma you're barely twenty and you *know* that Cancer men are forever and never stray and all that you've been involved with how many Cancer "men"? okay, no offense, yet I think we can be pretty sure they were and still are just boys you needn't feel you have to defend all males of your Sun sign, dear Cancer girl, just because your boyfriend is one there are those of us who actually know and have lived with and married and divorced and counselled actual Cancer men, not teens, or possibly twenties, like your boyfriend probably is. Sometimes we make comments that we have actually observed, which is the essence of getting to the truth.

So please, I would like you to give me some examples of Cancer men, other than your "boy"friend, and explain just how they never stray, are loyal as dogs, and know exactly how to care for your heart. Let's use the Saturn Return as the definition for "man", call it age 30, as it is then that symbolically we all "grow up", or should. Yet I would submit that a Cancer male is not a man until a little longer, since he is still holding onto the past in several ways, including emails. Do you not think that your guy has old cards and letters from other girls somewhere, possibly in his mother's attic, that you will probably never see? I bet he does this is not to say that he doesn't love you, or is not completely faithful and all that. Yet I would say that by an astrological definition (and if any others have a better one than the Saturn Return, please supply it), your man ain't yet a man, and that your comments on Cancer men are a bit broad, possibly inaccurate, and lack real evidence. So prove me wrong please Astrology is an art *and* a science. Research and evidence is important, not just to us Virgos either...so please kick some proof, girl, back up what you just said that causes you to be sure that Cancer Men Are All That. Just the facts...three examples, please.

Happy Sun in Scorpio for the next 30 days ! dig up the facts and be a super sleuth!

Be Blessed,
Carlo

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Oxychick
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posted November 03, 2002 07:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Oxychick     Edit/Delete Message
Grrr....Cancerian emotional outbursts....talk about retreating into a shell! So we're supposed to still be friends, but as soon as I start to joke around, he jumps on the offensive and sulks "whatever. i don't care." and logs off.

Argh!!

Sorry, needed to let that out before my Leo Moon and Aquarian Mars take over, forcing me to do something hasty. Boy, does that make my blood boil! But I'm being good. *deep breaths*

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posted November 04, 2002 10:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Carlo     Edit/Delete Message
lol...yes, breathe deep...the Leo Moon and Aquarian Mars need Air

yep, "moody-broody" that's what Linda called them...and Looney Birds too!

They can be unpredictable as much as any Air sign, and since they are creatures of their moods, you never know what is next. I work with a Cancer guy who broke up with his Leo girl of two years. He says that she needed a lot of attention and was so emotional. So then how is the Moon supposed to be so awesome in Cancer? and the Sun in Leo? despite optimism and some ability to nurture, is it just a prescription for emotional neediness? I wonder sometimes...

anyways, Cancers can be pretty challenging, and then they hang on. I was listening to two high school kids chat the other day at work, both black, inner city kids, going on about the boy's girlfriend who broke up with him. They basically dwelt on how should he try to keep her around, not let her get away, even though she wanted out. And he was kind of whiny. Turns out they are both Cancers so I told them that it is their greatest challenge in life to learn to detach more easily, not cling, let people go, just be willing to at least! They were like...yeah, sure Cancers can be sooo tenacious, and if they don't cling to actual people, they cling to outworn ideas, and just have such a time letting go. They probably get dumped more than they dump, yet who knows...just not the type of thing an Aquarius Mars or Leo Moon to handle without some anxiety. Like, how can you get your proper attention when it's always about the other person's issues! Too funny...best to detach...use that Mars in Aquarius to breeze, find something or someone else to do...

BB,
Carlo

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