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Topic: PLEASE, SOME ADVICE?!
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theFajita Knowflake Posts: 2007 From: Boca Raton, FL USA Registered: Sep 2002
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posted November 17, 2002 12:41 AM
Can anyone tell me if we are compatable. For the past three years I am the only one who works on our relationship. He has become less abusive, but he shouldn't have been in the first place. Can someone tell me what you think? (about our charts) Me 2/11/1981 Torrance, CA Him 12/1/1981 El Paso, TX ------------------ Food is the only art that nourishes! IP: Logged |
Jaqueline Knowflake Posts: 1164 From: Rio de Janeiro , Brazil Registered: Oct 2002
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posted November 17, 2002 01:21 PM
Hi Fajita Dear, I cannot help you , but I think that you should add the birth hour. Just in case... I'm sure that someone will help you with this question Love Jakie IP: Logged |
Sher bear Knowflake Posts: 161 From: Canada Registered: Nov 2002
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posted November 17, 2002 01:35 PM
I can't help either - but I have enrolled in the astrology course - so I'm looking forward to helping people soon enough....not that earth age matters but - I thought you may have been older...ahhh...old soul...Anyhow someone will help - and again I want to thank you for that mantra - it's helped me quite a few times this week....cuz ya man, "I'm totally grateful for everthing I have-no complaints!!!!" BLEZZINGsIP: Logged |
Cat Knowflake Posts: 3308 From: England Registered: Jan 2002
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posted November 17, 2002 01:58 PM
Hi Fajita Jakie's correct - you do need both of your birth times or any chart comparison can't be accurate. Also you need to actually write out the month as different countries write the dates numerically in a different way. So for example...2/11/81 could be 2 November 81 or 11 February 81 Which makes a big difference Sue
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theFajita Knowflake Posts: 2007 From: Boca Raton, FL USA Registered: Sep 2002
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posted November 17, 2002 03:11 PM
OK sorry about that! THanks for everyone's responses!I am February 11, 1981 11:30 pm Torrance, CALifornia, USA my name is Donna Carmen Herrera if you need that too JOshua Allen Cohen December 1, 1981 6:25am in El Paso TX, USA Any help would be great-anything! Thanks so much! ------------------ Food is the only art that nourishes! IP: Logged |
Jaqueline Knowflake Posts: 1164 From: Rio de Janeiro , Brazil Registered: Oct 2002
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posted November 17, 2002 04:33 PM
FajitaTry www.astro.com Go to AstroClick Partner and check the information about your sinastry... Follow the instructions,it's easy. Maybe this can be a little help for now. Love Jakie IP: Logged |
Oxychick Knowflake Posts: 2620 From: neither here nor there Registered: Jul 2002
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posted November 17, 2002 08:28 PM
Hello Fajita,I can't offer you astrological advice, but you mentioning him being "abusive" is particularly disconcerting. That's an important issue, be it physically, mentally, emotionally, or verbally abusive-is this something you've really gotten over? (as I raise a skeptical eyebrow)Obviously, I have no idea what your situation is like, but I am often inclined to jump to conclusions, and jump on the offense when I hear the word "abuse". I don't want to pry, I just hope that this is a safe situation for you. You should always feel free to e-mail or chat. ------------------ "What lies behind us and lies before us are small matters compared to what lies within us." -Ralph Waldo Emerson IP: Logged |
theFajita Knowflake Posts: 2007 From: Boca Raton, FL USA Registered: Sep 2002
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posted November 18, 2002 02:14 AM
Thanks for your kind words oxychick. Things are much calmer now but I know I hold on to resentment towards him, and still have fear. And I know those things aren't part of a good relationship. I guess I would like an astrological point of view on the dynamics of our relationship because I am coming to my wits end with him. thanks guys!------------------ Food is the only art that nourishes! IP: Logged |
Oxychick Knowflake Posts: 2620 From: neither here nor there Registered: Jul 2002
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posted November 18, 2002 06:15 AM
Again, I'm only speculating, but the most important thing is you being safe and in a safe, loving, mutually caring relationship. (the astrology can come afterwards) ------------------ "What lies behind us and lies before us are small matters compared to what lies within us." -Ralph Waldo Emerson IP: Logged |
Worldly Man's Advocate Knowflake Posts: 29 From: Registered: Nov 2002
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posted November 18, 2002 09:33 AM
[clap clap] Oxychick's exactly right; tell him to stuff off; you don't need that kind of aggravation. It's crazy to stick with someone who's abusive. No matter how 'astrologically compatible' you might be, there's no reason to accept that kind of behaviour.I dunno about this 'safe, loving, mutually caring relationship' stuff Oxychick's talking about; I'm a guy; my advice is: kick his teeth out and tell him to stuff off. So sorry to be the unenlightened voice here, but I hate it when people don't make the effort to improve their lives, even when it's obvious what needs doing. There's a time for peaceful negotiation, just as there's a time to smash some heads. Three years you say... my astrological calculations tell me that good ole Mars is chomping at the bit... Sometimes, we have to look at ourselves and say 'Oh, c'mon! No way I'm gonna be stuck in THAT.' Be reasonable. And while we are on the subject, are there any women out there who can explain exactly why they stay in these kinds of things. WMA IP: Logged |
Aphrodite Knowflake Posts: 3706 From: Registered: Feb 2002
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posted November 18, 2002 10:54 AM
miss fajita,the words that rang out in me when you wrote your message is, "it's not fair." life is short. nobody on knows what will happen tomorrow. and it's so unfortunate that we ALL take things for granted. today is yesterday's tomorrow. everybody deserves to be happy and live life to it's fullest. "all things stop at God." a wise scorpio once said to me this engimatic sentence. the inner you knows the answer to your inquiry. listen to the quiet voice in you. lastly, heart to heart---it is not fair to sacrifice your love, beauty, enchantment, kindness, and the pure essence of you to a soul who does understand the value of those qualities that can never be found outside the heart. these qualities that lie in the deep pools of a person's eyes, misunderstood by so many. be fair to yourself miss fajita. i am almost certain your inner self is asking the same of you. love to you aphrodite IP: Logged |
trippysht Knowflake Posts: 272 From: Morristown, NJ USA Registered: Nov 2002
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posted November 18, 2002 11:12 AM
Jaqueline- astro.com's partners thing was pretty neat!!
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theFajita Knowflake Posts: 2007 From: Boca Raton, FL USA Registered: Sep 2002
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posted November 18, 2002 06:43 PM
Thanks everyone for all your supportive and true words from the heart, I really appreciate them. I don't really know what else to say but thank you!------------------ Food is the only art that nourishes! IP: Logged |
Oxychick Knowflake Posts: 2620 From: neither here nor there Registered: Jul 2002
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posted November 18, 2002 08:29 PM
WMA...hehe..You said what I was thnking (but was trying to be careful about b/c I don;t know her situation). but i agree. NO ONE should deal with any form of abuse. Not ever. As for a safe and loving relationship...is there any better kind? (that is if you're going to choose the relationship path) Abuse doesn't factor into love, in my humble opinion. But I was trying to speak as best I could without prying beyond what Fajita wants to tell. But anyway...I appreciate your wordly advice sir. And I'm glad someone said it. And Fajita...say that you're taking this into consideration-that you're not going to let yourself be hurt in such a way. ------------------ "What lies behind us and lies before us are small matters compared to what lies within us." -Ralph Waldo Emerson IP: Logged |
Jaqueline Knowflake Posts: 1164 From: Rio de Janeiro , Brazil Registered: Oct 2002
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posted November 18, 2002 09:33 PM
Hi guysWell...I understand Fajita... I had a wonderfull marriage for 10 years,then , with no reason and no motive ,my husband became a violent person. To make a long story short...It took me 4 years to finished my marriage. Why ? Because you don't stop loving a person in minutes. You believe that this person will change,he said that he will change ,that he regrets, that he will be again who he was... it is a lie ...today I know. This behavior is psychotic, only gets worse in the course of time. But only today I understand. I cannot advise anyone, the only thing that I can say, is that today, 18 months after the end of my marriage, I have peace. I wish you the best Fajita Jakie __________________________________________________________________ To Love You Truly, I must first love me, Enough to know I deserve, The love to set me free. The path I walk leads to you, Where-ever you might be. I still don't know your name But this love will bring the key. IP: Logged |
Jaqueline Knowflake Posts: 1164 From: Rio de Janeiro , Brazil Registered: Oct 2002
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posted November 18, 2002 09:34 PM
trippyshtI'm glad you liked the site Jakie IP: Logged |
Oxychick Knowflake Posts: 2620 From: neither here nor there Registered: Jul 2002
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posted November 18, 2002 10:08 PM
So while I think that it's important for people to say "I understand", I feel it's also important to not let it go at that. It doesn't always have to be about time, but people can be encouraging enough to help a person out of a bad situation. An unhealthy situation. Because if you wait, things can only get worse. Because for some women, they don;t find peace-things end tragically. And it's sad if we can't try to help someone out of that kind of situation.I just don;t think this is an issue to be passive about. I'm sorry if I led your thread astray, Fajita. ------------------ "What lies behind us and lies before us are small matters compared to what lies within us." -Ralph Waldo Emerson IP: Logged |
theFajita Knowflake Posts: 2007 From: Boca Raton, FL USA Registered: Sep 2002
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posted November 18, 2002 11:19 PM
Thank you Jackie, thank you Oxy chick (no need to apologize)what if the abuse has stopped (phsyical) but I am still holding the pain of that for 3 years and resentment- trying hard not too. Basically I left him in June as I couldn't take anymore, and since then he has not hurt me? So I keep trying to work on things between us and I am wondering if our other dynamics will ever be cohesive I forgot to add that I moved back in. ------------------ Food is the only art that nourishes! IP: Logged |
Oxychick Knowflake Posts: 2620 From: neither here nor there Registered: Jul 2002
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posted November 19, 2002 06:08 AM
Hey Fajita,E-mail me. (If you want.)
------------------ "What lies behind us and lies before us are small matters compared to what lies within us." -Ralph Waldo Emerson IP: Logged |
Jaqueline Knowflake Posts: 1164 From: Rio de Janeiro , Brazil Registered: Oct 2002
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posted November 19, 2002 10:37 AM
Hi Oxychick When I said that I understand Fajita,I was trying to say that I understand what she is feeling,'cause I was in that same situation. I also wrote that : quote: You believe that this person will change,he said that he will change ,that he regrets, that he will be again who he was... it is a lie ...today I know. This behavior is psychotic, only gets worse in the course of time. But only today I understand.
Our life is like a picture hanging in a wall. When we are "outside" of this picture we can have a vision of the whole scenario,all can be visualized. But when we are "inside" of the picture,our vision is limited. The outsider could visualize,but to feel,you have to be inside. I hope that she have courage to let this man go away. NOBODY should keep a relation with abuse. Jakie IP: Logged |
Jaqueline Knowflake Posts: 1164 From: Rio de Janeiro , Brazil Registered: Oct 2002
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posted November 19, 2002 10:57 AM
Dear FajitaDuring four years my ex husband was abusive three times. The scars are in my soul. And these are impossible of healing. I am a person completely independent financially, I have my friends, my children are at my side, my social life is quite intense and in spite of everything , I don't have courage of beginning a new relationship. I lost my innocence... and I think you understand what I am saying. The body's pain doesn't mean anything close to the pain of the soul. The shame of having accepted to continue in an abusive relationship is indescribable. And you know about that. You could be my daughter, for this reason, I hope you believe that the salvation of your relationship doesn't exist. I'm sorry to speak like that. You will never find happiness with this man because he is sick.And you'll be sick too if you continue with him... I saw your picture at knowflake album, as you saw mine. You're a wonderfull girl with a pretty smile , you're inteligent, kind, sweet, young...so, why stay with him ? Think about that,please You don't deserve this...nobody does love Jakie IP: Logged |
Aphrodite Knowflake Posts: 3706 From: Registered: Feb 2002
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posted November 19, 2002 11:41 AM
miss fajita,i am looking at your chart. please feel free to ask questions. *big hugs for you* are you good in the arts? do you have artistic talents in something? aphrodite p.s. the next few days may be emotionally trying, as the moon is going through taurus in your 7th house and will conjunct your gemini moon at 0 degrees. stay strong! IP: Logged |
theFajita Knowflake Posts: 2007 From: Boca Raton, FL USA Registered: Sep 2002
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posted November 21, 2002 12:03 AM
Thanks everyone- you all seem to care so much and it is really touching.Aphrodite- you said it, I am going thru so much- personally and everything right now- I am remaining strong on the outside, but inside a little wavery :-) I like to write- that is what I want to be, a writer, and yes, I think of that as an art. And I love to cook, and as you can see in my thing on the bottom, it's the only art that nourishes! hee hee those are the only arts I practice but I can appreciate all of them- all my senses love to be stimulated! Jakie don't worry I know what you were saying and I thank you for sharing that personal information with me. Oxychick I appreciate all your sharing with me too! I tend to struggle with not having self-destructive things in my life..I struggled with drugs very badly for many years, 14 yrs was my first time in rehab and when I was 19 I met the guy I am with now- and by the age of 20 and totally reduced my drug use (at his insistence.) So alot of areas of my life improved (went back to school, took care of my body, work, family) when the drug use was gone, but then had entered just other self destructive phases of my life like staying with someone abusive and controlling and being bulemic. I suppose a main reason I stayed with him was because I honestly didn't trust myself to not go back to drugs if he was not there to "scare" me from them, and I do know me and drugs are not a good situation. But he has not abused me anymore physcially which I am grateful for, yet, I never really stop flinching, you know what I mean? I try to work and things and know he is human and I have many things I needed to change as well. Part of me wonders if we are opposites and meant to be together- in a karmic situation? or is that stupid. I really appreciate everyone taking the time to help me. Please know if he hit me again I would leave, he knows that which is why he hasn't done it- let me tell when I moved out in June it shocked the hell out of him! He never thought I had it in me. well thanks everyone, love and light and a little more love fajita ------------------ Food is the only art that nourishes! IP: Logged |
Aphrodite Knowflake Posts: 3706 From: Registered: Feb 2002
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posted November 22, 2002 08:57 AM
hi miss fajita,i asked about you about the arts because your venus in aquarius makes an exact conjunction with your south node, trined by your jupiter in libra in retrograde. this indicates a natural, fluid talent in the arts.
aphrodite
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theFajita Knowflake Posts: 2007 From: Boca Raton, FL USA Registered: Sep 2002
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posted November 23, 2002 12:00 AM
Oh OK thanks Aphrodite. neat!I tell you those stars, always right on! I just realized you were in in SF..cool! ------------------ Food is the only art that nourishes! IP: Logged |