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super_bull
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posted September 09, 2003 09:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for super_bull     Edit/Delete Message
is this an Taurus-Aquarius Mutual Admiration Society?
can i join?

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posted September 09, 2003 09:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 1scorp     Edit/Delete Message
I think what attracted this particular Aqua was as he put it "there's something up with that girl" Wanting to figure something out that isn't easily known.

Believe it or not... the Aqua (Aries moon) is way more of a talker than the Gem (Scorpio moon).

Said that I play mind games Yet, he liked it He was/is fun! Still friends.

I have to agree on the Taurus & Aqua connection. I know they're squared, but they just "seem" to get on pretty well.

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posted September 09, 2003 05:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sthenri     Edit/Delete Message
Hi, Oxychick, not in my sights but an old friend I was curious about, more in my memory. I do work with Aquas though, artists.

A Taurus with a Cancer moon really needs the affection, she needs a hug whenever she needs one and doesn't want to have to ask for it. She expects her loved one to see that or else she will get hugs from someone else. She can go without but once the bottle is uncorked she wants to be hugged often or at least once a day. I found Aqua males especially with Air Moons to be kind of not affectionate, even being able to go without any affection or loving for months at a time. That's just too much. Can you imagine living with a man and he suddenly stops making love to you for months because it's just not important to him? That's a Taurus/Cancer Moon's worst nightmare simply because it takes a lot of effort, and honestly Taureans have a high love drive, not necessarily sex but loving and kissing.

Do you think Aquas like to drink more than the average? That has been I have experience and when people ask me about Aquas I just don't know.

Mars in Aqua is a great placement and very honest, I have many friends with that placement and they are incredibly trustworthy, and honest in an open way. I like Venus, the Moon, and Mars in Aqua personally these placements make a person honest, and that's good for me.

I think Taureans respect honesty and see that in Aquas. The only thing I do not like is not sharing the recognition for a project, an Aqua prefers to have the credit and there can be wrangling over that and rules in general. I am not an easy one on giving up my ego in a project. I have the same problem with Sags and Geminis but especially with Aquas and those with Aqua placements. I have been burned too many times before.

My Aqua little brother thinks I am way too strict with keeping to his word, but I do find Aquas adorable and sweet even though they do not like that description. I

t's hard to fear an Aqua and in love or work there has to be a little fear or awe. It's hard to have an Aqua boss for that reason, I can't seem to find out what makes Aquas really mad. I would like to know so I can have an argument and know where I stand, sometimes I will get a cold shoulder and not know what I said or did.

With Libras if you don't pay attention often that is an insult but sometimes I just don't know what makes an Aqua mad. I suppose that's the mystery? It's good to know. To me, I love my work so it's part of my soul, I always like to know how to get along better with Aquas in my work.

Natasha

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posted September 10, 2003 08:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Oxychick     Edit/Delete Message
Super-bull- Great idea! What fun! Can we mutually admire other signs as well.

1scorp-sounds like an extroverted Moon vs. an introverted one. I dated a Gemini with Scorpio moon once-very sexy. He went back and forth between chatterbox and broody.

Natasha, of course! You Venusian Taurus, you love the artistic and creative sides of those Aquas! Do I think they drink more? You know, honestly, I think I¡¦ve known heavy drinkers of a lot of signs. Although, come to think of it, I¡ve had many a fun drunken evening with some fellow Aquas! But not always. I know a lot of Aquarians who enjoy drinking, but they're usually very good about controlling it.

You just described my Taurus Sun/Cancer Moon friend to a "T." That¡¦s totally her, and I think that while she gets attached easily, she may be trying to separate herself from the situation before she really gets hurt.

The surest way to make an Aqua mad? In my opinion? Break their trust or do something deceitful. That'll do it every time. I've felt that anger myself, and I've seen other Aquarians fueled by it. It's not pretty. I've seen even the most mild-mannered Aquarians practically spewing steam from their ears.

Libras do need a lot of attention, I agree. My oldest friend is a Libra, and I known quite a few others...yep, I agree.

I think some of the best relationships with Aquarians can be where you have a mutually appreciative relationship; that is, when you both have something to offer each other, and feel that you can feed off of one another. Does that make sense?

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posted September 12, 2003 03:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aphrodite     Edit/Delete Message
hi oxychick,

i use the koch house system.

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sthenri
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posted September 12, 2003 03:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sthenri     Edit/Delete Message
Yes Oxychick, I see where you are coming from. I do not alway know if I am being truthful or not simply because I do not reveal all about my life until I know someone well. Even to my closest friends. That comes off as mysterious or coy but it's not, I just do not feel like self promoting or competing, to make sure everyone is secure. Another thing is that I do not ever break a promise to a friend, but I will test to make that person keeps his promises. I also try to gain trust first by finding common ground and being trusting in small ways as a friend.

Aquas are sometimes distrustful even of their closest friends and mine tend to want to know everything that is happening in my lie without censure. I feel I am put on a pedestal a bit when I am fairly emotional. Then if I have a new friend I am a little nagged. I find my Aqua friends will trust the strangest most dishonest people out of the blue, is that an emotional response? It feels like Aquas like to be updated on everything happening, is that true? Are they big on communication, letters, cards, and so on like Geminis?

My brother is an Aqua and loves to choose what we do, but if our plans do not turn out well, and he is unhappy he usually blames me. If we see a bad movie, it's my fault, but then if I choose the movie he never likes it simply because he didn't get to choose. All I can do is suggest separate movies and then he wanders from one to the other frustrated. I prefer to have him tell me all about the movies he wants to see and then I choose a movie out of the blue. He's impatient, fidgets and easily frustrated, it's the same with my adult Aquas, I can't get that way because then I get really frustrated, so any suggestions?

My biggest fear is that I am talking to someone who wants to be treated like a child, or wants to treat me the same way. I talk to people all day who have to be told what to do, and it's very trying.

In dealing with men in general there is always that element of, making sure the egos are equal and that I do not take over any of the credit for any decisions but do not relent either. There has to be equal work and equal credit. I make sure to never work with people I find insecure and competitive so it doesn't become an issue. I find this to be more work (the equal credit) with the Libras and Aquas I know even though I do not see the insecurity. Is there a hidden defense system that I am triggering? Like Star Wars? Any Thoughts?

Natasha

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Oxychick
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posted September 17, 2003 06:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Oxychick     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Natasha

I don’t know anyone who is always being truthful. Something I’ve noticed, especially about Aquarian men, is that they make their own logic. This isn’t to say that I don’t love all of my Aquarian friends dearly, just that I know this about them.

I will admit to the pedestal thing (Neptune in the 7th, so I definitely do that with my partners). A lot of my Aquarian friends and I do have a habit of analyzing a situation-talking it to death-when a friend becomes emotional. But these same analytical conversations are good for when we feel emotional and want to understand it.

I have never worked closely with another Aquarius outside of school, so I haven’t noticed a competition tendency. I did work with a Cancer girl who was unable to write, dress or speak professionally (our Sag manager always had me ‘quietly’ checking and editing all of her work, but wanted the Cancer to take all the credit). That situation didn’t work for me and it was one of the reasons I left. I did have a great team in school once that consisted of me, another Aquarian girl and an Aries guy. That was a very energetic mix, mostly fueled by the Aries fire I think. To answer your question though, every Aquarian I know seems to have a hidden defense system (some more obvious than others). It’s all in how we show it. Some jump on the defense immediately. I knew one Aquarian who was just spiteful to the core and started lying to everyone around to save face (everyone believed it too). That is not always the case though. Everyone is different, I suppose. Lol

The Taurus string in the Astrology forum seems to have taken a bit of a turn, but I wanted to comment on what you said about Aquas and needing to know where it’s going. I think Aquas are apprehensive until they have an assured green light that the person they’re interested in feels the same way. Sometimes we talk and talk to get an understanding of how someone feels about something rather than coming right out and saying it. My Taurus friend and I have an understanding without any pretense or false impressions (no silly games), and I like that. It suits me very well right now.

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Just goes to show the truth changes depending on which way you're looking at it

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sthenri
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posted September 17, 2003 01:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sthenri     Edit/Delete Message
Yes Oxychick and NW, you are right about the truth. I do not work so hard at being truthful all the time now, that Sag rising is a killer.

I know that thread did turn didn't it? Well, I don't mean you, I think you as an Aqua are very open but face to face it is different and like you said we all have defenses. I am not as emotional when the subject is turning to love because being naturally a little self centered I think it has to do with me and I'm flattered. Taurus is easily flattered by attentions like that. Glad to hear you have a relationship that is open and not artificial.

Taurus does not usually give green lights, but we need to make more of an effort to be assertive. It's more of a weak flash, we try to communicate with our eyes and body language. It's different for women as you know. I think my challenge with that Aqua had to do with the fact that he would never look right at me but would instead look at the ground while he talked or "dance" away and towards me so that I would get confused by what he was saying. I usually like a man to be very close to me.

Thanks for your insights, this has helped, I really didn't know if Aquas defensive or insecure or competitive. Libras and Aries are competitive. I think competition is not very useful most of the time, to be honest.

Natasha

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posted September 17, 2003 01:35 PM           Edit/Delete Message
i think when the sun signs and ascendants are closely matched it comes down to the moonsigns and other factors.

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posted September 17, 2003 03:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message
For me, the touching has to start very slow. I don't mind a little touch on my arm, but I am leery of hugs and kisses off the bat.

I am also not that demonstrative until I really know a person. Even then, I am more likely to walk up to them and approach them from the side and slip my arm around them. Like I would a horse and that is how I like to be approached. Maybe all my years of working with animals has taught me never to make quick gestures, if someone does that to me, I bolt.

I love the bantering part first. The long talks and debates. The eye contact and smiles. If I can talk to someone and find them intellectually stimulating, then they are well on their way to captivating me. The physical part comes later, but I have to know first that I can hang out with that person and share many thoughts and feelings, which is hard for me to do at first.

When someone comes on too strong, I really get scared, especially if they are really touchy-kissy. I warn people "I start slow and may seem cold, but really once I get to know you and trust you...then you'll never wonder how I feel about you. "

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posted September 18, 2003 10:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Oxychick     Edit/Delete Message
Natasha, I love Sag risings! One of my closest friends has that influence and she is just the best person to talk to, about anything. And I do mean anything! The great thing about Sag risings, in my opinion, is that they are truthful in a very human sense. They’re very outgoing and very willing to talk and communicate. They don’t seem to accept things at face value, but rather talk about things to try to understand them better. At least, that’s been my experience.

I have to say I am guilty of avoiding eye contact. I feel like if I make eye contact, I know I’ll start thinking about whatever it is that I’m looking at and either make a goofy face or just stop paying attention (er, Gemini Rising here). Lol I am getting a little better. I’m learning to feel comfortable even locking gazes for just a quick second. An Aquarian guy I know and I always avoid looking at each other (my Gemini friend observed us in conversation once and mentioned how funny it was that we talked to each other but looked everywhere else). Well, something funky must have been in the air the other night, because we all went out, and he and I actually continued to make eye contact while speaking.

On a separate note…were you quoting some Blondie lyrics up in the Astrology forum? I love Blondie.

Pidaua, I love bantering as well. It really just makes the chemistry spark even further, doesn’t it? Quick physical gestures scare me off as well. And I think your last line was said beautifully.

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posted September 19, 2003 02:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sthenri     Edit/Delete Message
Hello, I'm not sure because I have quoted so many lyrics, I like Blondie too.
My favorite of hers was..Rapture...

Yes I like Gemini risings very much

I think that the Aquas like friendship so much, it's a little in between all the time, and in love you have to give or get. Naturally, we are one or the other, givers or getters at different times but our styles are very different. I think Aquas are a little afraid of giving or getting and prefer it in the middle. Same with friendship some prefer to give, or get most of the time. I usually prefer to be the giver because then my ego is not in the way but that's confusing for Aquas, because they like to give too. We make good friends for that reason. I appreciate how Aquas acknowledge the ego in everything.

Whats most frustrating about Leos and Aries is that you can tell the truth right to his or her face, and they will look right past it to save ego. Even though you know you could save that person years of trouble, I like Aquas, as well as Libra and Gemini risings, because they pick that up. They can look right at what needs to be faced, face the ego and take care of it instead of denying basic instincts. It's very good.

Natasha

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posted September 20, 2003 11:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message

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"Never mentally imagine for another that which you would not want to experience for yourself, since the mental image you send out inevitably comes back to you." Rebecca Clark

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posted September 20, 2003 01:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message
Thank you Oxy.

I think that friendship really is the most important part of a relationship. Most people don't seem to want to the the friendship blossom into a something more, but they want to just run past that step. I wonder, how can two people fall in love if they never fell in "like" first.

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posted September 21, 2003 01:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message
I see people all the time who "supposedly" love each other but can't stand each other or don't like each other.

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posted September 21, 2003 02:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cat     Edit/Delete Message
Randall
Yes I know what you mean and that so sad

People do sometimes grow apart. My thoughts are that maybe the souls purpose for them meeting has been met and maybe they should move on but I guess when the lifetime lessons have been truely learnt then they will. Some lessons can be very hard to go though
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posted September 21, 2003 02:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Oxychick     Edit/Delete Message
So true, Cat.

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posted October 06, 2003 11:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aphrodite     Edit/Delete Message
To the top!

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posted October 06, 2003 12:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aphrodite     Edit/Delete Message
I have one to share, it's something from my Uranus in the 5th house Book of Romance

Surprises from out of the blue! Things like a phone call to say Hi on a Saturday morning, a poem from out of nowhere, a random restaurant choice, and a quirky joke or two.

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posted October 06, 2003 01:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for trillian     Edit/Delete Message
Oh ho! Mind if I butt in?

Fire signs are great lovers of truth! Personally, I'll take a hard truth over a cold lie any day. Water signs on the other hand...can be slippery little buggers when it comes to the truth! And I have known more Virgos who are pathological liars than any other sign. That is not scientific, just an observation, and of course a generalization based solely on sun sign.

I have had only one Aqua friend that I can recall, and you know, he was what I would call the definitive fair weather friend, though in reverse. I would only hear from him when his life was troubled, usually with women problems. Then he would call and talk for hours, wanting my honest opinions, which I freely gave. After his last fling ended poorly, he decided off-the-cuff to marry a former girlfriend (whom he hadn't dated in years). I gave him my honest opinion...and he hasn't spoken to me since (though he did send a wedding announcement, accepted a present I mailed too).

Re: Venus in Aries. I have it too. It's considered the detriment, I believe (sorry if I remembered incorrectly), for Venus, or at least difficult for us women. Can make us war-like and fickle. But I don't mind who I am.

Intelligent coversation is the greatest aphrodisiac for me...nothing will turn my head faster. Well, maybe Viggo Mortensen as the future king in Lord of the Rings, but that doesn't count. But as for the conversation--interestingly, I am a communicator and writer, and haven't one blessed air sign in my chart.

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posted October 06, 2003 01:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for trillian     Edit/Delete Message
Oh, btw, Oxy...re: food and Taurus men. You're right, don't feed the Taurus unless you plan to keep him !

A friend (Pisces, Scorp moon) had a fling with a Taurus (big baby Leo moon) a few years ago. He is still so in love with her, it's become scary. Luckily he lives in another state. I actually fear that he will show up with a gun sometime...

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posted October 06, 2003 01:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Oxychick     Edit/Delete Message
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posted October 07, 2003 10:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sthenri     Edit/Delete Message
I don't think all Taureans are that posessive, although I am, my Venus in Aries helps. I have found that Venus in Taurus is more posessive. I went out with a Taurus for a long time with Venus in Taurus and he was obsessed with marriage which was fine, but I couldn't do it then. The only time I feel pushed by a man is when he is constantly insecure about his appearance or chatters non stop when he is nervous. I never have any problem telling a man no, but then I have a hard time caring if a man is upset about my life, because it's my life not his.

Taurus love is like Shakespeare love, we want it to be poetic and have that feeling all the time. That's why tokens of love are nice, like cards. We like to give more than receive, just humour us it doesn't take any effort to receive but if it's refused the Taurus will be very hurt. I tell people to communicate with me often and that's enough. But then I have Merc in Gemini/7th house. As for food, I have found Cancers to be much more obsessed with food and weight and even Libras can be into cooking. My Taurus did cook for me a lot and I was hooked by that.

I knew a Cancer that would make me measure his waist weekly, but he loved to eat. He would also ask me to photograph his face to see the progress. A Taurus will like you just the way you are usually, and won't fret about going gray. A Taurean trait is to age gracefully.

I do not think I have ever met a Libra or Taurus that like to be fed, the ones I knew like to do the feeding from their own kitchen, the Libra men especially like to cook and hand feed you. I find that hard sometimes as I do not always like someone putting food in my mouth but I have learned to live with it. A Taurean trait is to do things for YOU, as to say the world is beautiful for you, but not for me because I am doing this all for you. It's like we get happy on making others feel good and seeing the result. It's an obession of most Taurus, Leo and Libra sun or ascendant people I have found, making others happy and self denial.

Natasha
Now the truth has come out!
Taurus/6th house Sun
Mars Ascendant and Midheaven

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posted October 08, 2003 08:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aphrodite     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Natasha!

As I was reading towards the end of your note, I thought to myself . . . is she a 6th house Sun ?

Yep, you are! The contribution reflects perfectly a 6th House Taurus Sun

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