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Angelhead
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posted January 03, 2010 12:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Angelhead     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I found this link particularly interesting as I share a lot of Saturn aspects with the man I consider my soul mate.

My saturn falls in his 8th house and his saturn in my 9th house.

His Saturn is trine my mercury, neptune and chiron
His Saturn is sextile my mars and juno
His Saturn is opposite my north node
His Saturn is square my Lilith
My Saturn is trine his mars, pluto and juno
My Saturn is conjunct his jupiter
My saturn is square his sun
My saturn is opposite his neptune
My saturn is sextile his saturn
His Saturn Leo (10th house) is also involved in a grand trine with my Chiron Aries(5th house) and his Neptune Sagittarius(2nd house).
What do you make of that? is it more a restricting or bonding relationship?
I would appreciate your views.Thanks

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My Saturn synastry with Ami is interesting, not least becasue they are both conjunct our mutual ascendents etc. Ascendents are a trine and the Saturns are a trine.
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posted March 13, 2010 05:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for depth     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i share a few synastry aspects with my partner saturn's dignified)

my saturn's in his 12H
& his sat's in my 1st.

his saturn quincunx my moon
his saturn trine mars
his saturn square merc(out of sign)
my saturn loosely opp his venus

composite:
sun/merc/jupe trine saturn
mars/pluto square saturn
saturn tightly conj asc.

draconic synastry:

his dr saturn(in my dr 1H/nat 5H) opp my natal sun/mars.
my dr saturn(ruler of his dr 7H) in his natal 4H.
my dr saturn trine his dr moon.
my dr saturn square his nat sun.

draco comp:

dr sun/jupe/merc conj composite asc/saturn
dr saturn quincunx comp mars/pluto
dr saturn in comp 4H

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slowpoke
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posted April 02, 2010 08:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for slowpoke     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Oxychick ,

Well aspected Saturn in Synastry charts suggest loyalty, trust worthiness and, endurance between the subjects. Although, they may not realize it until much later in time.

If Saturn in Synastry has a mix of aspects that suggest some good over here and some bad over there, then the subjects may experience loathing of some element about the other but is unwilling to leave because of the advantages of being with the other. The number of aspects to Saturn may tilt the scale in one direction more than the other.

If Saturn has only one aspect to it and it is a stressful one, then there is a possibility that the subjects may experience a slow burn towards discontentment between each other to the point of separation. It takes a healthy dose of strong aspects in other areas to offset the need to leave.

If Saturn has stressful aspects in a Synastry mix, then consider the union as one, that is not. It is more like oil sitting in water. Subjects who find themselves within this type of atmosphere would be wise in understanding that they both serve a purpose, they can even have the same goals, but. They should take their own individual paths to achieve those goals, never try and do them as a team.

Certain stand alone aspects to Saturn in a Synastry mix do suggest true road blocks to mutual success.

M 90 SA – the subjects’ sense a force of repulsiveness when with each other, it never leaves.
MR 90 SA – your timing is off with each other and outside elements tend to work against you.
P 90 SA – you clash at doing things because you are both leaders brought up on focusing on different sides of the same coin.


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Diana
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posted April 02, 2010 08:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Diana     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm actually starting to think saturn aspects are bogus. I don't have them with someone I've been friends with my entire life. And it was not an easy relationship at all, so it took a lot of work (saturn).

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posted April 02, 2010 09:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Slowpoke, How would you interpret Saturn in someone else's 8th house?
Sexual frustration? Demands, jealousy? What comes to your mind with that?

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slowpoke
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posted April 05, 2010 01:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for slowpoke     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Lonake,

The eighth house may rattle nerves some, because it is associated with Pluto & death. But it is also about finances and the rebuilding of the old and outworn things. Odd as it may seem, it is about security and passing your genes on through your offspring.

Saturn is about putting your nose to the grindstone. It is about disciple. It is about slow growth and setbacks. Saturn helps provide common sense. It also means “other people” and how they will or will not support your hopes, dreams and or, wishes.

Saturn in the other person’s eighth house . . .

Planets in most astrology surroundings will always present sets of compound scenarios.
In a simple form, Saturn in the other person’s eighth house might mean to me, when it stands alone unaspected by neither natal nor Synastry aspects,

The Saturn person is the stickler for detail dealing with the joint finances of the unit, to include interest in wills, living trust, trust funds and, estates.

The Saturn person could place restrictions on the other person on how to behave, this could include in the bedroom as well.

The Saturn person could be too preoccupied with being depressed and or fussy, as far as the other person is concerned.

However, as I mentioned earlier, this is a compound problem with many scenarios. Other elements should be addressed. Just to name a few:

What natal sign is SA in?
Is SA part of any aspects to other planets?
Does SA aspect the cusp of other houses?
Is SA the ruler of either sun sign?
What are other planets and their aspects saying about the union as a whole?

Saturn in the other person’s eighth house could mean, that you live a long time together with substantial funds laid away for retirement, as well. It all depends on other things.

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cherle
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posted April 05, 2010 02:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cherle     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've these Saturn aspects with a someone:

Sun semisextile Saturn: double whammy, tight orb
Moon trine Saturn & Moon sexile Saturn: double whammy, tight orb
Mercury semisextile Saturn
Venus sextile Saturn
Mars square Saturn, Mars trine Saturn: double whammy, acceptable orbs
Jupiter opposed Saturn: double whammy, acceptable orbs
Pluto trine Saturn: double whammey, tight-to-acceptable orbs
ASC sqaure Saturn, ASC trine Saturn: double whammy, acceptable orbs

His Saturn falls in my 9th
My Saturn falls in his 10th
Saturn is in Taurus in both our charts

Any thought?

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posted April 05, 2010 11:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What about these
my saturn in his 7th
his saturn in my 6th

mars trine saturn
asc opps saturn
saturn sq uranus
saturn sq chiron

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Lonake
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posted April 06, 2010 12:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Slowpoke,
Thanks for taking time to look at my Q.

More specifically with the synastry I'm looking at,
-his saturn is in pisces, in my h8, my sun is also in pisces h8, but the orb is too wide for a conj
-his saturn trines my jupiter in scorpio (in my h4), 4 deg, it opposes his uranus/pluto in virgo
-it doesn't aspect the cusp of any house
-it's not the ruler of our suns
-as a whole, the other aspects point to much similarity on the emotional/mental level, as well as strong pts of dissimiliarity on the personality level shown by opps to the asc, there's a grand trine made with my mars/saturn/pluto stellium that stabilizes some errant energy in his chart, the difficulty comes with my saturn and pluto adverse to 2 of his personal planets and with this he taps into some of my insecurity

What do you get from the above?

On one hand, I actually like his Saturn because I'm allowed to give him a lift (with my jupiter trine his SA) in coming to terms with the more feeling aspects of life (for example he has strong fear of death and is somewhat spiritually weak as he is caught up a lot in his mind which acts as a deterrent to being very at ease with himself/life, i'm convinced if he developed his spiritual side a lot of his fears/worries would slide away). When we met initially he was like a lot of others with this opp, which is with a strong paranoid conspiracy theorist bent, and it took some work to get him to trust me, another symptom i think of his lack of faith. Not that I'm trying to push religion onto him, far from that, I just want to open the doors of possibility a bit.

That's one side of it. The other is, where does the 8th house fit into all of this? And does it make sense that I find his Pisces Saturn insecurities/fears attractive (this is actually true with everyone i've met with this placement)? Is the house placement one of closeness, because that doesn't fit with what I usually think of with Saturn? I guess I just need a different perspective since I'm a bit close to this.

Thanks for any help
~ Lonake

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slowpoke
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posted April 06, 2010 03:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for slowpoke     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh My!

I wish I had time to address the issues, I am sorry, I don’t.

Here is my train of thought on how to best weight your own relationships objectively.
The most important thing to focus on are your aspects. So for now, disregard your charts.
The aspects are the fuel that make the relationship work, without them you have no relationship.

List all of your aspects and then color code them.

Make all Oppositions – light blue
Make all Conjunctions and Trines – yellow
Make all Sextiles – light green
Make all Squares – red
Color the minor aspects any color you like with one of the colors above.

Color these aspects – black

Sun (90, 180) Pluto
Moon (90, 180) Mars
Moon (90) Saturn
Moon (180) Pluto
Mars (90, 180) Mars, Saturn, Uranus, Pluto and Asc.

The blue aspects are good around good aspects and bad around bad aspects. If you like, you can include certain Conjunctions as blue too. Count up the colors and see what you get. Then the yellow and green should be added together; and the red and blacks should be added together, count the blues and keep separated.

The thing about astrology is that you can not change the planet positions and their aspects to each other. What you get, is what you get. Aspect influences do not cancel each other out, they coexist simultaneously. So, astrologically speaking, before one begins worrying about the particulars, it is wise to see if the relationship is worth worrying about.

If the green and yellow out number the red and black by twice as much or more, the relationship shows the potential to be a good one.

The frosting on the cake (so to speak) would be favorable aspects to Moon, Mercury, Venus and or, Jupiter.

Aspects To Live For:
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Got Gemini?
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posted May 02, 2010 02:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Got Gemini?     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How about Sun square Saturn DOUBLE WHAMMY both ways? Her Sun is square my Saturn 2˚ applying and my Sun is square her Saturn 0˚ applying. We also have a double whammy Mercury square Saturn. Her Mercury squares my Saturn 6˚ applying and my Mercury squares her Saturn 0˚ separating.

The feelings are mutual between she and I but we are not together. Honestly, I don't think we will ever be together until we are much older, like in our late 40's or 50's.

I've loved her since the moment I met her when I was 8 years old. She confessed her feelings for me happened when we were adults but I believe they were always there


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Virgo Asc 6˚& Mars 0˚
Gemini Sun 24˚
Libra Moon 14˚(conjunct Pluto 0˚ in 2nd house)
Gemini Mercury 25˚
Cancer Venus 29˚ (Mutual reception with Moon)
And yes, i'm a guy!

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posted May 03, 2010 12:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MysticMelody     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/202714.html

more members discuss their experiences with Saturn contacts in synastry and composite

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posted October 05, 2012 09:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for starfairy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sun-Saturn in Synastry

My first ex boyfriend and I had strong Saturn aspects in our synastry chart. It made total sense, given the fact that Saturn was transiting my 7th house at the time. More specifically, my Saturn was conjunct his Sun in Scorpio. My most recent ex had his Sun in Aquarius square my Saturn in Scorpio. Incidentally, he had Saturn transiting his 7th house when we were together.

Sun-Saturn aspects in synastry are apparently very common aspects to find in the synastry charts of married couples and long-term partners. Indeed, my relationships with those two lasted quite a few years, but it wasn’t without difficulty.

As the Saturn person, I felt both insecure and committed to each of them. Each one of them brought out many of my insecurities. Just by being themselves and expressing their individuality, my fears of rejection and getting hurt surfaced. In response, I criticized them and judged them harshly. I wanted to dominate them, control them, and stomp on their fun. I didn’t want them to “grow”, because I was too afraid they would grow apart from me.

Another reason I was so critical of these two guys was because I genuinely felt their ideas, feelings, and beliefs were incredibly stupid. Sounds harsh, I know, but some of their opinions and beliefs simply ****** me off. Instead of calmly voicing my own opinions, I insulted theirs. This, in turn, discouraged them greatly, but I felt I was doing them a favor. When I look back, I know I was a bit too harsh with them, but I felt (and STILL feel) they were childish and needed a good reality check.

The Sun-Saturn energy in synastry is much like the energy between a parent and child. In those two relationships, I felt that I was scolding my misbehaving children.

I was already into astrology when I met the Aquarius guy, so I knew this energy would manifest in our relationship somehow. I tried my best to keep my Saturnian energy in check, but when it came down to it, I simply couldn’t help but criticize him. Trust me- I tried.

Moon-Saturn in Synastry

I recently came out of a relationship that had a Moon-Saturn opposition double-whammy. By “double-whammy”, I mean his Moon opposed my Saturn and his Saturn opposed my Moon. How does this aspect play out between two people, you may ask? Let me tell you.

The way it manifested in my relationship was through major emotional distancing. Him and I would do anything to avoid talking about our feelings. Even when problems arose which made either one of us feel angry, annoyed, jealous, or frustrated, we would not, and COULD not, voice our feelings to one another. I felt that if I told him how I felt, he would reject me, and he felt the same way. Even though I knew he had true feelings for me, self-doubt and fear of rejection would take over, and I’d end up keeping my feelings to myself. The same went for affection; affection did not flow easily between us due to deep-seated fears of rejection, which was ultimately frustrating for both parties. Also, neither of us ever felt we could express our playful, romantic sides around one another; I felt he would not approve of any kind of childishness from me, so I kept my mouth shut.

On the positive side, this relationship is particular was my longest. I think one of the things that made us last so long was the desire to find out what the other person felt. The emotional distancing both frustrated and intrigued me. I wanted to know what was in his heart, and he was dying to know how I felt. We both hung in there, hoping that one day, one of us would say how we truly felt about one another. After a while, we learned to express our feelings to one another, but only in small segments. We were both careful to never uncover “too much” about the way we felt for one another.


Venus-Saturn in Synastry

My longest relationship featured a tight Saturn square Venus aspect in synastry, wherein I was the Venus person.

This is often known as the “unrequited love” aspect. Why? Saturn represents blockages and restrictions, which can manifest in many forms. Sometimes, the blockages come from external forces. Saturn rules tradition, so couples with this synastry aspect sometimes face opposition from either person’s family. In my case, I was of a different cultural background than my partner. His parents were very traditional and strict, and would have never have approved of our union. Other external restrictions can include a mismatch in terms of age, social status, cultural background, or distance. Either way, there’s usually something in the way of you being together.

Another way in which this manifested was through a withdrawal of affection. I never felt quite comfortable cuddling him, telling him I loved him, or making baby talk with him due to my fear that he would reject that kind of behavior. I censored my feelings of affection for him, and he did the same. He acted somewhat “fatherly” towards me, and I didn’t want to risk his disapproval. Though he never explicitly told me he didn’t want me to go out and have fun with my friends, he would often try to interfere with my plans if he knew I was going out.

Mars-Saturn in Synastry

This is a very negative aspect to share with someone in synastry.

With this aspect, it seems that no matter what the Mars person does, the Saturn person is bothered. Nothing is ever “good enough” for Saturn. The Saturn person usually sees the Mars person as childish and irresponsible. The Mars person’s energy is the sort that makes the Saturn person very uncomfortable. More specifically, the Mars person’s self-confidence and assertiveness brings out Saturn’s insecurities, and in response, the Saturn person attempts to restrict and limit the Mars person’s actions by telling Mars what to do. Saturn may resort to constantly tearing the Mars person down through criticism and psychological abuse.

It is common for Mars to feel Saturn is condescending and treats Mars like a child. Mars may become angry with this and lash out at the Saturn person. The cycle of criticism and conflict can soon become a vicious cycle. This aspect lends itself to verbally abusive relationships, and can even escalate into physical aggression.

Since Mars is the planet of sex and physical energy, this aspect can also manifest into sexual problems for the couple. Saturn may find the sex disappointed, and Mars may sense this, and lose their sexual confidence. This is an aspect often found in the synastry charts of sexless marriages.
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Randall
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posted October 06, 2012 01:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Good info.

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posted October 07, 2012 12:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This string has been around a long time.

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posted October 09, 2012 09:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mockingbird     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah, dang - that first page was like a walk down memory lane.

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posted October 11, 2012 12:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for JLyn ~     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So let's say saturn sextiles all three of the other persons sun, mercury, and venus;
okay so my theory about one sided saturn-relationships: the saturn person IS the older soul in a spiritual sense

I'd love to read your opinions about this

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posted January 28, 2013 09:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nicole401     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted January 29, 2013 12:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SDragon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by JLyn ~:
So let's say saturn sextiles all three of the other persons sun, mercury, and venus;
okay so my theory about one sided saturn-relationships: the saturn person IS the older soul in a spiritual sense

I'd love to read your opinions about this


Maybe it's the Sun, Venus person that is sharing their warmth to dispel Saturn's harshness? Too many variables when we start saying one aspect denotes an older soul.

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posted May 03, 2015 03:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LostTaurus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bumping for the WEALTH of information

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posted May 03, 2015 04:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Moving to Interpersonal Astrology.

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