posted March 07, 2004 01:55 PM         

Him:
Gemini Sun
No birthtime
Taurus Moon
Cancer Venus
Taurus Mars
Cancer Mercury
Virgo Uranus, Jupiter, Pluto
North Node Cancer
Neptune Scorpio
No fire signs, sun is singleton only air

Her:
Taurus Sun/6th
Cancer Moon/8th
Aries Venus/5th
Sag Mars/1st and Ascendant
Gemini/Mercury/7th
Virgo Pluto and Jupiter
Libra Uranus/all 10th
Scorpio Neptune/12th
Pisces NN/4th
Virgo Midheaven

Any ideas, strong physical attraction, but he IS a Gemini and I have my heart broken by Geminis before. (slight vibe of other woman)

posted March 07, 2004 03:58 PM         

Well, if he can find a dynamic connection to your Venus in Aries, and Mars in Sag, then I think it could be something fantastic. Of course you'll need to check out his Houses.

Watch for his Cancer in Mercury, made even more complicated by a Gemini Sun.

posted March 08, 2004 10:12 PM         

Just be cautious...

(you know how us Cancer Moons have feelings which "walk sideways" when they've been hurt)

posted March 09, 2004 12:23 AM         

What gives with those Geminis are they for real? Cancer is strange, I am moody too and I know I am not always direct. Is this a bad match for me? Will I end up losing my head?

What do you think Gloria?

posted March 09, 2004 01:03 AM         

You are asking ME for advice on love? But... but.... YOU are the one who always gives me the best advice!

Am I worthy of this?

All I know is what you tell me and what I'm working for. If you read what your dilemma is and pretend I was the one who wrote it instead, what would you say?

I know enough about you to know you are into the real solid thing. Is there something crazy in the air lately? It's as if a little bit of flirty this-and-that is the right thing to do right now...

I'm dealing with it myself. I'm SOOO ripe...

You do tend to give people lots of help, and maybe he needs a little kick in the azz instead. Or something else, which I know ain't yo thang so...

(just being cheeky)

OK... my instincts are screaming BE CAREFUL!!!

posted March 09, 2004 09:21 AM         

Libras are a little more together, you are blessed

posted March 09, 2004 01:59 PM         

Remember the elements. Fire and air feed on each other, so those things will be most obvious. Air and water don't really mix, it's like the air can't breathe. The water has nothing to hold on to. Air and Earth, well... a nice cool wind over the hot ground is always nice. The air loves to rub up against the ground and explore all the bumps and crevices. Air and Air... unfathomable... unreachable... infinite possibilities.

So explore any of those elements in his Natal, and see what's hidden, what's just friendship, what he's feeding on, and what is never going to be within your reach...

posted March 10, 2004 08:39 PM         

How to do you show someone you are interested romantically? I tend to hug and be affectionate, but this Gemini seems to go with it and then go back to saying he cares again. How do I know if he cares in a romantic way? What are the signals, I do not want to be too pushy??

Usually I wait too long and then my object of attention gets mad at me. Are geminis jealous? I have flirted with others in front of him but he is insisting he wants only a friend, but then he gets jealous obviously upset and unhappy.

What gives?

posted March 11, 2004 04:44 AM         

You have a Gemini Sun and you're a female. Perhaps you have no problems xpressing. A Mercury in Cancer may not be upfront due to fear, insecurity, whatever...

But since you have the same positions as that guy does, maybe you can shine some light as to what the heck he's thinking/doing...

Natasha -

When you asked how you know if a guy is interested romantically... ummm... well you know how f'd up I am, so who am I to say, right?

But since I'm taking a completely fresh look at "romance", etc... probably because Pluto is almost done transiting my 7th house.

So taking a fresh look at it (which I owe in part to you from your selfless guidance), I think men nowadays have a certain fear of woman, not in the old way of fearing women's "power", but more like there are so many women who are not grounded at all. They are looking for the girl nextdoor.

Girls and women are so animated, everyone acts like they are in a movie or real-tv script. It's all a nice ride, but ultimately, the men feel empty.

Read the thread Prox posted on recently, the one with a photo of her preg... very inspiring, her patience and clarity.

.gloria

posted March 11, 2004 09:04 PM         

either way i think its a good idea to just be friends right now. if he does leave her, give him some time and then make a move. if he's really interested then giving him a lot of space will drive him crazy and he'll want to see you more.

posted March 11, 2004 11:33 PM         

Funny what you said about not thinking Mercury in Cancer affects would be noticed. That's just the thing. You aren't direct, but you try to hide it by being indirect. Sooner or later, you WILL be busted. I actually believe wholeheartedly that men with Cancer Mercury WANT to be busted.

So there was once this little game I played with one... he kept expecting me to bust him... I kept waiting for him to show me how he would LIKE me to bust him...

He'd get so flustered, he'd be even more confused. It was great...

I kept him there like a tantric visegrip...

It was great...

posted March 12, 2004 02:30 PM         

But then I tell him he deserved it, I only say something mean when it's deserved or if he is getting too flirty. So I don't mind being his friend, but he has to figure himself out. AND he has Neptune on the 7th! and a Pisces ascendant.

That's got to make him confused, looking for his ideal dream mate all the time. And my 7th holds Mercury in Gemini. My Neptune is close to my ascendant, and I have Neptune in the 12th. He may feel drawn to me for his problems, sure, but I do have trouble when someone gets that passionately, emotionally attached to me.

Sometimes, it's not an act, and sometimes, even men get hurt, but I do not want to cause his pain, or the Cancer girlfriend's pain. Setting limits with him was harder than I thought-that's my surprise.

I guess I was just surprised a man could affect me that way, and now I know.

example-he poked me in the shoulder and slapped me on the butt because I was acting flirty with someone else, I told him to never do that again, since it made me very uncomfortable. It was odd to me that he would try that. But I believe I have set limits.

posted March 12, 2004 02:31 PM         

Gloria, how did it work out with that Mercury in Cancer guy?

posted March 15, 2004 05:29 PM         

I know he is a softie but right now I need him to be strong.

So I am taking it slow.
Of course I love letters too and I know how your Gemini is writing you letters. You must be on Cloud 9:>

posted March 15, 2004 10:54 PM         

What I meant by:

"... I actually believe wholeheartedly that men with Cancer Mercury WANT to be busted.

So there was once this little game I played with one... he kept expecting me to bust him... I kept waiting for him to show me how he would LIKE me to bust him...

He'd get so flustered, he'd be even more confused. It was great...

I kept him there like a tantric visegrip... "

Nothing mean and I did it for a SPECIFIC reason, based on a previous Cancer Merc guy... he was just waiting for me to bust him so he could play the "blame game"... instead of falling for it, not only did I CALL IT, but I even took it to the next level... by giving him the opportunity to name his poison...

Drove him CRAZY!!

Does that make more sense? Ball back in his court, avoid a lot of drama, and avoid unnecessary misunderstandings. I NEVER said anything mean to him EVER. No name-calling, or starting sentences with "You are so...", things like that.

I learned how to rephrase a long time ago. Try it...

What happened to him?

One of 3 things has happened to him:

1) He's in jail
2) He's in an opium den
3) He's dead

He'll be back .... Oh yes ... He WILL be back ...

posted March 16, 2004 03:01 PM         

But he was at his first Saturn Return and was trying to figure out if he wanted to marry "his mother" or not...

I realized this early on and kept proving to him that I was NOT his mother, so he went with the other girl on the other adventure...

I already know the ending...

As for being friends, I like it when I can "do it" rather early on and still be respected, in other words, if it works out well like that, then I feel I am with a like soul, a friend...

posted March 16, 2004 04:57 PM         

Still I think it's good to get feel for the other person physically right away, did you do that with the Libra moon guy? I find Libra moons to be really physical, and I never know how to react. I think a hug is nice, and that's the way I went with the Gemini. I didn't feel tons of chemistry, but it was good to know right away.

He on the other hand now thinks there is chemistry, but I realized it was taking the initiative that was important not what was done. I am a lot happier that way. It sounds like you need a man who lets you take the initiative. I am not sure Libra moons can do that, you know my story with one.

posted March 17, 2004 10:38 AM         

Did he sort of duck and move around, like he was embarassed by it? What a dork. A Real man would adore a hug from a woman like you.

Once you hug the right one, he won't be able to stay away. I met this Gemini btw next to a rum cake, he was hogging it and I wanted to share, isn't that so Taurus? I secretly just wanted something from him, and he was suspicious of my motives. Isn't it funny how you meet someone, is how the relationship goes? It was a new club? that advertised free cake (it was hard as a rock). I just popped my head in.

I firmly believe how you meet someone predicts the relationship. Maybe the Libra moon guy wasn't happy being setup, or there was something in the meeting/approach that went wrong.
It's his loss.

there is that challenge with approach so many times, it's bizarre.

Your Uranus in Leo really needs more warmth you are correct. Try venues where you are guaranteed to find men with warmth, at the same places you will find married men but some will be single. The problem is whereever single men hang out, cold ones are there.
I would even hang out with married men, hey I do now, and they give me tips. I don't tell a lot of people though.

One told me trade shows. (a long time ago) Don't laugh, I met my first Gemini there, who was an engineer setting up. He was pretty warm with many placements in Cancer. But I made the initiative and so I took him by surprise. I really do not feel that good about poaching on other women's territory either, but sometimes I think it's just an imaginary line too. Nothing bad has happened from investigating. (with boyfriends not married men).

I am convinced that even though we are sisters and all that, there is nothing wrong with investigating another woman's "man". After all if he doesn't own her, she doesn't own him either right? We are all free men and women? And I trust myself totally to do the right thing.

I hope your therapy is doing well, it helped me, more than I can say.

posted March 17, 2004 10:42 AM         

So, I am having a hard time controlling myself when we are alone? Is this silly or am I wise to make sure we aren't alone for a while. What is the deal for anyone else who has more experience with Gemini men? I have only known one, and he was pretty much straightforward, this one is more shy and has a live-in girlfriend he is trying to break it off with. But he says he is scared he won't have anyone else if he does-looking at me.

What do I say to that? I care but I can't predict the future, and I am not much on cooking. I can be there for him but I'm not a traditional wife (Cancer Sun) Will he be let down? What are my motivations? It's hard to tell if I am romantic about him, I'm so jaded these days.

How do you tell when you are in love?