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Topic: Help on Singleton
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miss_muffet Knowflake Posts: 13 From: Registered: Mar 2004
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posted April 15, 2004 04:23 PM
My Singleton is supposedly Neptune in Scorpio and is supposed to be very strong. I tried searching in the web for more info but found very little.Can any of you expand on that for me please? It got me really curious. Thank you very much. IP: Logged |
astro junkie Knowflake Posts: 2192 From: orlando, fl Registered: Nov 2003
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posted April 15, 2004 08:42 PM
I had a cool link for you cuz I read stuff about my Singleton (Uranus in Leo) on there and saved it to my hard drive. Just went back to see it for you and the site is gone!------------------ it's better to light a candle than curse the darkness... IP: Logged |
lioneye68 Knowflake Posts: 3164 From: Canada Registered: Apr 2003
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posted April 15, 2004 09:32 PM
I have that too, Miss Muffet, as a singleton as well..in the 12th house, no less ...Where is yours? Does it aspect any of your personal planets? Because I don't think you really express Neptune in your personality, it's purpose is more to describe the spiritual atmosphere of your generation. UNLESS it's squaring your Venus, or in your 1st house, or something that integrates it's into your personality. Neptune stays in each sign for...like 14 years or something, so it influences entire generations. I think it's influence was most clearly seen in the sexually liberating, drug tripping, but also social reform obsessed 70's IP: Logged |
miss_muffet Knowflake Posts: 13 From: Registered: Mar 2004
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posted April 16, 2004 05:50 PM
Honestly, I am not sure. I was told from a previous post that I have a singleton of Neptune in Scorpio....I am new to astrology but here is my chart: Planetary positions planet sign degree house motion Sun Aries 10°51'01 05 direct Moon Taurus 09°08'21 06 direct Mercury Pisces 19°15'27 05 direct Venus Pisces 19°39'32 05 direct Mars Taurus 02°35'50 06 direct Jupiter Leo 26°32'17 10 retrograde Saturn Aries 14°47'03 05/6 direct Saturn is technically near the end of house 5 and is interpreted in house 6. Uranus Virgo 26°35'15 11 retrograde Neptune Scorpio 26°14'19 01 retrograde Pluto Virgo 21°01'55 11 retrograde True Node Aries 18°40'25 06 direct House positions (Placidus) Ascendant Scorpio 13°10'04 2nd House Sagittarius 12°20'02 3rd House Capricorn 11°48'03 Imum Coeli Aquarius 12°28'09 5th House Pisces 14°13'50 6th House Aries 15°05'43 Descendant Taurus 13°10'04 8th House Gemini 12°20'02 9th House Cancer 11°48'03 Medium Coeli Leo 12°28'09 11th House Virgo 14°13'50 12th House Libra 15°05'43 Major aspects Sun Conjunction Saturn 3°56 Sun Quincunx Ascendant 2°19 Moon Conjunction Mars 6°33 Moon Opposition Ascendant 4°02 Mercury Conjunction Venus 0°24 Mercury Opposition Pluto 1°46 Venus Opposition Pluto 1°22 Jupiter Square Neptune 0°18 Saturn Quincunx Ascendant 1°37 Uranus Sextile Neptune 0°21 Uranus Conjunction Pluto 5°33 Neptune Sextile Pluto 5°12 Any help or clarification will be highly appreciated. IP: Logged |
delta Knowflake Posts: 32 From: Registered: Jun 2002
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posted April 16, 2004 08:59 PM
i've been looking for singleton info too... i've got a capricorn singleton moon which opposes venus and mercuryalso a sagittarian singleton neptune opposite my sun... any idea what all this means? IP: Logged |
lioneye68 Knowflake Posts: 3164 From: Canada Registered: Apr 2003
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posted April 18, 2004 01:53 PM
Geez, Miss Muffet, right off the top of my head, I can see that you have Neptune in your first house, so Neptune qualities are definately part of your persona. Your rising sign is Scorpio, but planets in the first house tend to dominate the ascendant...with Neptune there, you should read about Pisces ascendant and see if it sounds like you.It's also squaring Jupiter, which is in your 10th house, as well as the ruler of your 2nd house...maybe you're prone to disillusionment and (mostly self-) deception in carreer, but also capeable of mystical experiences in same, or a carreer to do with mystical subjects? Jupiter in the 10th house is typically a fantastic placement, in terms of social status and professional achievement. But, yeah, I'd recommend reading about Pisces rising, it may fit you better than Scorpio rising. Ok, here's a description...copied and pasted from cafeastrology.com Pisces Ascendant "Go with the flow" seems to be a Pisces rising motto. They move about the world in a vaguely directionless, gentle manner. They come across as artists and lovers of peace; but their open minds and hearts can give them a chameleon-like persona. Others are not always sure who they'll meet from one day to the next with a Pisces rising person. Although often quiet and shy, another day may find them talkative and passionate. They are hugely impressionable, have a dreamy disposition, and project a soft-hearted personality. Pisces rising sees the world the way they want to see it at any given time, so objectivity is not necessarily a strong point. Neither is decision-making! People with Pisces rising resist any kind of labeling--their characters are changeable, and they don't want to be pinned down or pegged in any way. Theirs is a restless, searching nature that cannot be happy with any one way of living or being. Pisces rising avoids cold, hard facts and harsh realities like the plague. They don't have a decisive plan for tomorrow or even today, preferring to keep things open. Since they change their minds frequently enough, and like to "feel" their way through life, too much organization or structure can be seen as very limiting. Pisces rising people walk around with their heads in the clouds, and even when you do have their attention, their dreaminess is almost always apparent. These people look for a stable partnership--one that is reliable. Pisces rising people gravitate to partners who keep them on their toes, and they often will pass off the little details and reality checks to their significant other. They seem to need a practical, realistic partner. Pisces Ascendants often have a sensitivity to drugs, and sometimes are prone to allergies that come and go. Their physical constitutions seem to be less resistant than most. Pisces rising people often possess an irresistible charm that comes on in a quiet way, with a soft aura about them. Both their appearance and mannerisms are usually quite intriguing to others. Famous people with this position include George Clooney and Gwyneth Paltrow.
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lioneye68 Knowflake Posts: 3164 From: Canada Registered: Apr 2003
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posted April 18, 2004 05:41 PM
delta, I'm thinking about yours too....Just wanted you to know that. PS-what houses are they in? IP: Logged |
astro junkie Knowflake Posts: 2192 From: orlando, fl Registered: Nov 2003
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posted April 18, 2004 06:05 PM
Delta -My Libra guy has Singleton Cappy Moon also, AND in the 1st House!! His Moon opp Jupiter, and is Sextile Uranus, and Square Pluto. IP: Logged |
miss_muffet Knowflake Posts: 13 From: Registered: Mar 2004
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posted April 18, 2004 07:48 PM
Hi Lioneye,hmm... the description fit me about 70%... See, I love to day dream, that part rings true, and I am very changeable. But I am definitely a planner. I always plan 3 months ahead of time and it would drive me out of my mind not knowing where and what I am doing from one day to the next. Just looking back at my relationships, I have always been the realist. I am the one planning and handling our finances, etc. I tend to gather my facts all in a row before I make up my mind but tend to stick to my decision through thick and thin. I do get bored very easily. I am not sure if this has something to do with the ascendant or perhaps just because I have an Aries sun... I am still not sure why I am looking at Pisces Ascendant... Although I do seem to have an atraction to Pisces individuals. I love their changeable disposition never boring! Miss Muffet
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lioneye68 Knowflake Posts: 3164 From: Canada Registered: Apr 2003
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posted April 19, 2004 12:55 AM
Miss Muffet, your ascendant is a hybrid of Scorpio and Pisces, because although you have Scorpio rising, you have Neptune in your first house (your ascendant house), and Neptune is Pisces' ruling planet. People with the moon in their first house are simular to Cancer rising, Mars in the first is simular to Aries rising, and so on...but in addition to your actual rising sign, not instead of it. (although in many cases, people will exhibit more of the 1st house PLANET than the actual rising sign, maybe as more of a first impression than anything else)Scorpio is a one of the zodiac's best planners, never one to be caught with their pants down, so to speak (and a rather appropriate cliche for the sexy sign) IP: Logged |
pixelpixie Knowflake Posts: 2060 From: Ontario, Canada Registered: Aug 2003
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posted April 19, 2004 11:18 AM
What is a singleton by definition? Would it be a single air/water/fire/earth sign in one's chart? A single element/quality? Is it one planet as the "handle" of the chart, thereby increasing it's out-standing qualities? Does that mean if someone has only one of a certain sign but it is in two planets, it wouldn't be a singleton? Just cuz in Miss_Muffet's chart, she has Neptune and Ascendant in Scorpio, and also other water signs. How does one define their singleton?IP: Logged |
lioneye68 Knowflake Posts: 3164 From: Canada Registered: Apr 2003
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posted April 19, 2004 11:57 AM
It could be the only water planet in the chart, or the only mutable planet, or the only one in the lower half of the chart (not sure about that last one)You raise a good point, though Pixie. If your singleton planet is in the same sign as your ascendant, does it still qualify as a singleton? I'm not sure that the angles are considered when looking for singletons. I've never read mention of that, one way or the other. Hmmm. Now I'm dieing to know too!! IP: Logged |
sthenri Moderator Posts: 1403 From: New England US Registered: May 2003
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posted April 19, 2004 04:53 PM
Here is the scoop, it does not look like he leaves the ascendant out, after all it has a major impact. A Neptune singleton would not have a water ascendant. http://bobmarksastrologer.com/13.0Singletons.htm I have known three Neptune Singletons all with Air ascendants, and they all made their living near the water, and were involved with real estate, advertising, or clubs (bars). All liked to drink, quite a bit and knew their wines. I was out with one and refused a drink and I'll never forget the look on his face. Drinking was a social custom for him. I don't know if that's true with all Neptune Singletons are not, I drink Sprite, I'm not a wine bar person. But I admire the style:> Natasha Taurus IP: Logged |
astro junkie Knowflake Posts: 2192 From: orlando, fl Registered: Nov 2003
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posted April 19, 2004 05:50 PM
Like, I've struggled so much by having only one Fire sign, and it's Uranus in Leo, which makes me more Aquarian and/or eccentric. When I think of myself as having a Singleton, I think of that struggle with Fire.But I never talk about having only one Air sign as well, my Libra Sun. So that's a Singleton as well. And the rest of my chart is Earth & Water. I'm NOT super-woman lifestyle here, and I regret it if I bite off more than I can chew. IP: Logged |
sthenri Moderator Posts: 1403 From: New England US Registered: May 2003
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posted April 19, 2004 10:08 PM
I talked to another uranus singleton in Leo, Gloria, it's certainly a factor tthat makes you a genius that loves working with people.Natasha IP: Logged |
astro junkie Knowflake Posts: 2192 From: orlando, fl Registered: Nov 2003
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posted April 20, 2004 12:50 AM
Yeah, I think Einstein had that placement and yeah, it's the maniacal genius... kind of scarry to a guy who first notices only my subtle Venus in Virgo first.OH! I'm so full of surprises. One astrology reading says that I don't trust people's first impression of me as being accurate, and it's SO true. I have so many sides to me. I've said for years, it takes someone TWO YEARS to know me, and even then, there's always that new something else. I've been told I need a man who is VERY secure in himself. You know, like if I fly off on some tagent for a few months, he doesn't freak on me. Sometimes they'll see my Scorpio influences first, and then get limp when my "fair" Libra side, or my conservative Virgo or Cappy sides come out. Sometimes they'll see the responsible Cappy influences first, and then are at a loss when my Uranus Leo, or MC in Aquarius comes out. This may be one of the major reasons why "marriage" just never fell into my lap as with most people, by happenstance at the very least. I'm very comfortable around exceptional types, genius', eccentrics. But not if the environment is too demanding or hectic. IP: Logged |
lalalinda Knowflake Posts: 175 From: nevada Registered: Feb 2004
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posted April 20, 2004 05:41 AM
According to "Predictive Astrology" by Frances Sakoian and Louis Acker A singleton planet is one planet isolated from the other planets in the horoscope. This planet stands alone in the hemisphere that it is found. An only planet east or west of the Midhaven/Nadir, or above or below the Asc./Desc. Significant factor in interpreting the natal chart. Because it stands alone it acts as a focusing terminal in the hemisphere its found in. The affairs ruled by the house where the singleton is found are subject to intensive activity characterized by the singleton planet. IP: Logged |
pixelpixie Knowflake Posts: 2060 From: Ontario, Canada Registered: Aug 2003
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posted April 20, 2004 08:25 AM
Well, that sounds good to me.. as my only upper hemisphere planet would be Jupiter! in Taurus in my Tenth ( I think technically my eleventh though, as it is in the last degrees of the tenth.)If I wanted anything to stand out and focus, it'd be Jupiter. But I have other Earth ~ Capricorn moon/sixth house.My own particular quest for singleton understanding would be my Libra. It is my only air sign, but I have both Mercury and Pluto in Libra. Two Planets/One Air.... so does that make it a singleton? Because I tend to be quite Libra in my communication ( Very.. on the other hand.. not black and white like Scorpios are 'supposed' to be. IP: Logged |
sthenri Moderator Posts: 1403 From: New England US Registered: May 2003
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posted April 20, 2004 09:26 AM
Gloria, what will be will be:>At least you are a genius, are you good with children? Natasha IP: Logged |
PlayfulPonderingFishMoon Knowflake Posts: 190 From: Registered: Sep 2003
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posted April 20, 2004 12:46 PM
pixel, Gosh, I think that abbreviation of your screen name is so cute, lol.
Anyways, lol, I am not sure at all, but from what I THINK I remember about the Singleton title though, that only applies to PLANETS themselves, and not to signs. Like, just because Libra is your only Air SIGN in your chart, I don't think that makes LIBRA be any sort of special 'Singleton' anything for you. But I do believe that if say, your PLUTO were the only PLANET in an Air sign in your chart, that would make Pluto be a 'Singleton' planet in your chart, and that PLANET and it's sign placement and it's house placement would have a bigger effect on you or something. Personally, I think you have a 'Libra' like way of communicating merely because your Mercury, planet of communication, is located in none other than Libra, of course, lol, and that combo of planet and sign on it's own just gives you your bouncy, friendly air, even without it being any sort of Singleton at all.
Lol, I just realized something too, lol.
You remind me SO much of an email friend of mine, one whom I've never even met in person, what with both of your friendly, upbeat, fun type of speech, lol, and while I think her own Mercury is in Cancer, her Moon is in none other than Libra though.
I don't know if there's a proveable tie in to it, but I do think that people with Libra as their Mercury or maybe as one of their main luminaries or personal planets, can have that friendly, outgoing air to them sometimes anyway, whether that planet located in Libra is a Singleton planet for them or not.
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astro junkie Knowflake Posts: 2192 From: orlando, fl Registered: Nov 2003
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posted April 20, 2004 03:57 PM
Yeah - It's not like a "sign" can be a Singleton. More like element, or like LaLa brought up, if it's all by it's lonesome. I think Bob Marks describes that strange balance in "The Funnel" too. www.bobmarksastrologer.com/funnel.html A Singleton can be considered as many different things, probably more than I know. ------------------ it's better to light a candle than curse the darkness... IP: Logged |
astro junkie Knowflake Posts: 2192 From: orlando, fl Registered: Nov 2003
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posted April 20, 2004 11:14 PM
Oh - forgot to reply back to you Natasha -Yeah - the thing about Uranus in Leo is being able to relate to children and animals on their level, and they are usually exceptional children and animals (or pets)... I read that many many years ago and was always struck at how true it was. And even more so because this Singleton is in my 4th. If I told you how I really do communicate with my pets to the point where they are exceptional. The same with children. I am very good with them and they love to be around me. I treat both as if they understand everything - - so they DO!! Also, Uranus in Leo is supposed to have a very unique eclectic home, almost like an experience because I combine psychology with theatrics. This is true too, and people comment on that when they are here. I've never had someone come to my home, even if home was my VW Bus, and not comment on how cool I've designed everything. They feel reeeeeaally comfortable. IP: Logged |
Everlong Knowflake Posts: 132 From: Southeast Florida Registered: Nov 2003
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posted April 21, 2004 11:17 PM
I have a Sun Singleton in Pisces. My only mutable sign. I've read a little bit about Sun Singletons in general, but I'm wondering what a Sun Singleton is Pisces would indicate?------------------ "Out of your depth or not, it's up to you whether you sink or swim." IP: Logged |
delta Knowflake Posts: 32 From: Registered: Jun 2002
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posted April 22, 2004 12:24 AM
sorry for late reply...lioneye - the cappy singleton moon is in the 3rd house and neptune sagittarius is in the 2nd. i've never found much on how to interpret singletons... supposedly they're a big deal but do you know any good places to read up on singletons? astro junkie - i'm a gemini with cappy singleton moon so maybe similar to ur guy with libra sun?! also i have only one fire sign like you... neptune in sag and i've ALWAYS felt that lack of fire really strongly... i tend to gravitate towards friends with a lot of fire for fun and motivation. IP: Logged |
lalalinda Knowflake Posts: 175 From: nevada Registered: Feb 2004
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posted April 22, 2004 02:41 AM
Think of it this way, because the singleton (planet) is at least 2 to 3 Empty houses away from any other planet, it will be the only planet to make any oppositions. Remember intensive activity characterize affairs ruled by the house with the singleton planet. If there are no planets in one or more elements,( fire, earth, air, and water) the characteristics of those elements will be lacking and compensation must be made in some manner. An excessive predominance of planets in one element or a total lack of planets in an element can cause an imbalance in the character.The presence of the Ascendant or midheaven or an element that has no planets can off set the imbalance to some extent. From the same book mentioned above by Acker and SakoianIP: Logged | |