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NightCreature
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posted July 08, 2004 01:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for NightCreature     Edit/Delete Message
I've read many online articles on this, but I have not yet found any good ones. What astrological properties would make 2 people soul mates?

The top 6 soul mate clues goes into some interesting analysis, but it's not very thorough (http://astrology.about.com/library/blfeatures/zodiac/blsoulmates2.htm)

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posted July 08, 2004 03:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for astro junkie     Edit/Delete Message
Like I said in other thread, but here again - hee hee - I've noticed that soul mate recipes involve Neptune, Pluto and the North Node. Aspects with those, and depending.

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posted July 08, 2004 03:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for NightCreature     Edit/Delete Message
so what would be the ideal aspects involving these outer planets and the north/south nodes?

Also which house placements would be the best for linkages between these planets and nodes?

P.S. sorry for posting this redundant information, the search option is just not available.

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posted July 08, 2004 04:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for astro junkie     Edit/Delete Message
Well, if you had a specific chart we can look at, it would be easy since we'd have an exact example to go by.

Without that, all I can say is if you have Conjunctions, Trines or Sextiles involving those Neptune, Pluto & the NN, aspecting the inner planets. Such as a NN Conjunct the Sun, or Moon, or Venus. Or even the Asc. That type of thing.

As for Houses, (and I'm still learning), I'd say the Houses which those planets above rule. Like if you have your Moon in your partner's 8th or 12th House. You have to sort of move away from specific formulas, and really learn the characteristics of each planet, sign, and House. Then you can formulate it, and then include your intuition. You know what I mean?

Think of each as a character with a personality, interacting with other placements, etc.

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posted July 08, 2004 11:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for NightCreature     Edit/Delete Message
How about me and this made up individual?

Me: Aug 12, 1981 Moscow 11:25am
Gal: Oct 15, 1974 Vancouver, BC 1:54am

I haven't actually met her, but according to my calculations she could be it

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posted July 08, 2004 12:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message
Just keep in mind, that even though you may be soul mates, EVERY relationship requires work.

My guy and I have all 6 of the "top soul mate" indicators going on in our charts. It is a very powerful relationship, but it is not without it's ups and downs.

Good Luck in your relationship Night Crawler and welcome to Lindaland.

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posted July 08, 2004 12:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for astro junkie     Edit/Delete Message
NightCreature -

How did you calculate the possible "one"?


Pidaua -

Really? You have all 6 and it's still work? Like without getting too personal, what types of issues requires the most work?

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posted July 08, 2004 01:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NightCreature     Edit/Delete Message
Just by looking into the aspects that I like my relation to have, and then using brute force to find a date where these aspects are realized.

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posted July 08, 2004 06:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message
Hi gloria,

Yep, we have all of the 6 indicators- Neptune aspects, the true node aspects, venus..I was freaking out when I started compare our charts- most often we shared the double whammy aspect.

1) We both have strong Neptune to Sun contacts. My Neptune opposes his Sun his Neptune conjuncts mine. His Neptune makes contact with my, Sun, Moon, Venus, Mars and Asc. Mine contacts his Sun, moon, venus, mars and Asc.

2) ASC/ DC / IC / MC: His Mars conjuncts my DC, while his DC conjuncts my Neptune / Venus. His Venus / Saturn conjuncts my MC, his Moon conjuncts my AC...LOL.

3) His North node is in my Sun sign forming a loose conjunction with my Sun / Venus trining my moon - squaring my ASC. My Node opposes his moon, conjuncts his mars, sextiles his Venus / Saturn, while sextiling his Sun / Asc.

4) Vertex: My Vertex opposes his moon and my antivertex conjuncts his moon. His Vertex opposes my moon and his antivertex conjuncts my moon. I have my vertex in aspect to his venus, sun and neptune. His vertex is in aspect to my sun / IC, mercury and venus.

5) Sun / moon to venus: My Venus squares his moon, His Venus squares my moon.

6) His pysche opposes my eros, my psyche squares his eros. My eros conjuncts his DC his eros conjuncts my pluto. (but we do not share the eros / psyche conjunction).

The big problem? Well, other than his big fat Saturn conjuncting his Venus in Cancer setting off my T-square...directly OPPOSING my apex - My ruler Mercury in Capricorn - but his ruler is Venus..so both of our chart rulers oppose each other while completing the others T-square thus turning it into a grand cross.

But, this is Karma- a bond- the tight link that exists between us, but our communication is sometimes off. I find that I can easily hurt his feelings without meaning too.

I also think that me having that Pluto on my Ascendant in the first house makes me come across as VERY uncompromising - and I am. I am learning - but I will fight being "put in my place" even when someone is not trying to do it. LOL...

In my own chart I have the whole Moon opposed Uranus thing going on. After this weekend and the battle with my looney mom I realized why I had always taken relationships with a grain of salt. Her feelings were always so changable - loved us kids one moment - hated us with a passion the next- I learned to never take someones declaration of love very seriously. I have always waited for the tide to turn - for them to say "well, yes, I loved you yesterday but now it is today and I don't".

When Mr. T said that he felt like he had to prove something with me, that I made him feel as though he wasn't doing enough - yeah, on a certain level he was right- because I never fully believe that someone can be tied to me or love me totally- well, except for my dad and brother..LOL..and my animals.

Sooooo, that is our problemo...it is not enough to have the synastry tie, one had to look at their own charts as well to see where their own little problems lie...hey I made a rhyme...LOL

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posted July 08, 2004 06:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for astro junkie     Edit/Delete Message
Wow! That IS proof positive of how there's never an easy formula.

* How do you think of your Composite? Is it helpful to look at that? And how do you rectify it against the Synastry? (My Composite w/Mr. Libra is sweeeeet - )

* Also, what Signs & Houses are YOUR Neptune & Pluto? (just yours)...

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posted July 08, 2004 07:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message
Hey AJ,

Well, our composite chart looks good- we have a Cancer rising, Sun in Pisces and a very active Moon in Gemini (in the 12th). We do seem to get along about 1 million times better when we are together versus being apart. Something about the distance distresses both of us.

In our composite we have Jupiter and the North node in our 6th house and that whole Venus conjunct Pluto Aspect.

My Neptune is in Scorpio in the 3rd house

and my Pluto is in Virgo in my first house forming a tight conjunction (with 2 degrees) to my Ascendant.

Composite Horoscope midpoint method
PLANETARY POSITIONS
planet sign degree house
Sun Pisces 11°30'49 08
Moon Gemini 25°56'30 12
Mercury Aries 00°37'42 09
Venus Virgo 28°20'41 03
Mars Pisces 14°55'07 08
Jupiter Capricorn 22°10'45 06/7
Jupiter is technically near the end of house 6 and is interpreted in house 7.
Saturn Gemini 08°58'47 11
Uranus Libra 18°52'44 04
Neptune Sagittarius 05°05'27 05
Pluto Libra 02°01'22 03
True Node Capricorn 23°21'22 06/7
True Node is technically near the end of house 6 and is interpreted in house 7.


HOUSE POSITIONS (Placidus)
Ascendant Cancer 25°04'58
2nd House Leo 21°29'58
3rd House Virgo 17°39'49
Imum Coeli Libra 15°17'38
5th House Scorpio 15°31'46
6th House Sagittarius 19°32'38
Descendant Capricorn 25°04'58
8th House Aquarius 21°29'58
9th House Pisces 17°39'49
Medium Coeli Aries 15°17'38
11th House Taurus 15°31'46
12th House Gemini 19°32'38

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posted July 08, 2004 10:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for astro junkie     Edit/Delete Message
Pidaua -

* Consider if the reason you took relationships with a grain of salt was because you never truly feel you connected with people anyways. Do you feel like what you communicate is never quite understood?

* Consider if you have projected your insecurities or negative sides of yourself onto other people. If you did this growing up, you may have subconsciously "expected" others to let you down, such as your mother.

* Did you grow up with, or find yourself being very suspicious of people, and that you still struggle with issues such as this, which equates with issues of trust?

* Also, have you had a strong running theme in your life where you quickly and fervently rebel against any semblance of any attempt to limit your physical or mental movement?

How much of this is true, mostly true, or very true?

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posted July 08, 2004 10:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for astro junkie     Edit/Delete Message
NightCreature -

I forgot to mention, the South Node and Chiron can also indicate that "soul mate" recipe as well.

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posted July 09, 2004 01:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for NightCreature     Edit/Delete Message
astro junkie, where are you getting this information from?

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posted July 09, 2004 05:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lalalinda     Edit/Delete Message

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posted July 09, 2004 10:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message
Hi AJ,

I would say that just about every question you posted could be answered by me with a "very true".

1) Yes, I have felt that what I say has never really been heard. It is so much easier for me to write rather than speak - even though I am a good lecturer - but when emotions get involved, my mind moves faster than my mouth - and I get into trouble - so sometimes I just say nothing and choose to move on.

2) I would say that because my mother was never really emotionally available and she resented being tied down to two kids, I chose people in my life that would disappoint me. I attracted people that needed to be "fixed" in some way and were so incredibly self-centered that they would never truly "care" about me. So I really invested nothing as far as my deepest feelings. All that has changed over the past 3 years. My ex and I went into counseling and I learned alot about that defense mechanism. My counselor pin-pointdd how I get into that cycle of being let down and since then I started to cut those people out of my life and replace them with healthy, caring people.

3) Suspicion and Trust: Yes, those are HUGE issues for me. In the other thread I said that my brother and I had to deal with a mother than loved us one minute and then told us she hated us the next. I used my Saggie optimism to paint a better picture and look at the past with those rose-colored glasses- then last weekend my mom reverted to that old self- the past hit me like a ton of bricks and no pair of rose colored glasses could hide that. My brother compensated by diconnecting from my mom- and he married a woman that has many of my mothers negative qualities, even if he refuses to see it. I did the same with my ex hubby. I compensated by developing a motto "Never let them know your weaknesses or fear for they will use it against you". LOL..sounds very paranoid, but my mom would use every little insecurity to throw me into a panic. I developed a rampant eating disorder in high school which almost killed me - I finally moved out on my own and then out of state to get away from that negativity. So two things happened, I learned not to trust and to be suspicious of others motives and I learned that when things get to scary- then it's time to move on.

Again, those are issues I have been addressing and the counselor brought that up. He said "Why do you choke back your tears, I am here so that you can let go emotionally- what are you so afraid of?" he also asked "Why don't you open up to people and let them know what hurts you? Are you afraid of the real you...of your sensitivity?". YEAH!!! I am...because emotions translate as weakness and weakness is my mom. Ugh...sorry if this sound so damn intense..it is, very cathartic.

4) Yes...yes...yes...I have a pathological tie to my freedom and independence- physically and mentally. I hate feeling hemmed in or told I cannot "be me".

The truth be told- even with the issues Mr. T and I have- he has been the most open relationship I have had emotionally in my life. With him I have taken the path of following my heart and that is new to me. But before my granny died she told me "Girl, you need to stop worrying about everyone else and follow your heart when it comes to life and love. God will protect you and bless you, start living and buck up".

She was a very wise woman, because she had been there and done that...I miss her.

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posted July 09, 2004 04:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for astro junkie     Edit/Delete Message
Wow - thanks for being so open about that Pidaua -

As you know, I too have had a few issues of trust, and have had to literally divorce myself from my entire family (including extended) because of so much negativity. (and made worse by having a huge emphasis on my 4th House - it's jinxed) ...

My mother quit her job as mom when I was about 10 years old, and no matter how much you try to recreate those wretched moments in the past, in order to "fix" them in a cathartic way in the present with other people, you only end up confirming the original hurt.

It's cool, Pid. No one is immune from human psychological "diseases".

Sounds like you've come a REALLY long way with Mr. T. Big pat on the back for you, girly!

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posted July 22, 2004 09:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nackie     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks for the great link!

My husband and I have every one of the 6 aspects as double whammys! (Well, except the psyche and eros combo...not too sure how to check that out)

1) Neptune Contacts:
My neptune semisquare his sun, conj. his Venus (0° orb!). His Neptune trines my venus.

2) Birth Planets and House Angles:
My sun and Mercury are conj. his Asc, his sun is conj my IC.

3) Cross Aspects/sun/moon/venus with the lunar nodes:
My sun is trine his node, his moon sextiles my node.

4) Cross Aspects/sun/moon/venus with Vertex:
My moon is opp. his Vertex, his moon is trine my vertex.

5) Aspects/sun and moon with venus:
My son is opp. his venus, my moon inconj. his venus. His sun is opp. my venus and his moon in sextile my venus.

6) Psyche and Eros:
Not sure if I'm doing this correctly, but I think my Eros and his Psyche are sign trined, and his eros and my pschye are sign sextile.

Whoa mama! That was a very interesting read!

Our biggest problems are his Saturn conj. my moon in the 7th. In a Davidson chart we have an aries sun, and a cappy asc and moon, which I think describes us very well! We also a have a venus/sun conjunction, both of which oppose Pluto.

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posted July 22, 2004 12:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yin     Edit/Delete Message
Pid, I firmly believe now that you and I have been twins in our previous lives.
I'm not very good with words but after you post I don't have to say anything, you've described my life better than I ever will,
even though your learned lessons come from different experiences and different choices than you've made, the outcome put into words by you, describes me as well.

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posted July 22, 2004 12:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sthenri     Edit/Delete Message
Neptune aspects are always interesting to me anyway because even if a relationship doesn't work for me it can be a huge inspiration in my artwork due to the Neptune trines.

I notice the Gemini I have mentioned has his Neptune in my 12th house, and my Neptune conjuncts is in his 8th house and his Neptune trines my Moon in the 8th.

It looks like his Pluto trines my Moon
and his Saturn in Pisces makes another good aspect to my moon.

I don't know that good Neptune aspects are always wonderful though, because it dissolves determination and after a while it can feel like
"free floating"

There ought to be a combination of romance
and fulfillment,

Shawnee,
Mr. Taurus will always feel like he's not doing enough, it's the Taurus way, to always want to do more than what's required, to care for another person and be responsible. To be significant.
It's good that you are demanding.

Natasha
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posted July 22, 2004 04:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dorkus_malorkus     Edit/Delete Message
Geez, this is confusing. I know I've done this a thousand times before, but can someone look at my chart, and tell me the type of man I'd be compatible with (what signs and what not?) Just whenever anybody has a spare moment

Sept. 6, 1986, San Antonio, TX 7:04 am

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posted July 22, 2004 04:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for astro junkie     Edit/Delete Message
Dorkus -

I get a very Aquarian vibe from you. Maybe even a Gemini, another Virgo, or a Libran. Someone who doesn't get you wrapped up in their emotions.

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posted July 22, 2004 06:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dorkus_malorkus     Edit/Delete Message
Hmm, I never have really gotten on with Aqua or Gemini men. But I do have a wealth of male Libra friends. I think Libran males make the best friends, I have no idea why *shrugs*

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posted July 22, 2004 06:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for astro junkie     Edit/Delete Message
You seem like a very fair-minded person.

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posted July 22, 2004 11:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dorkus_malorkus     Edit/Delete Message
I do? Oh *ahem* yes I mean, yes I do.

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