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Yang
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posted August 08, 2004 07:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yang     Edit/Delete Message
Imagine this:
You have met someone who you think is your soul mate and you wanna spend the rest of your life with this person.
The other person also thinks you are thier soul mate and everything is ok as far as a relationship goes!
BUT there is one huge problem. This person you like is the SAME SEX as you!
You dont want to have a gay relationship due to religion,family values,society or whatever else you think.
BUT you can see your life spent with this person.
You know that if you let him/her slip away,you will be full of sorrow and regret knowing you could be bliss and happy.
Do you stay straight or do you become gay?
Something to think about!

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astro junkie
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posted August 08, 2004 07:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for astro junkie     Edit/Delete Message
... how about ... just have sex ...

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Yin
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posted August 08, 2004 10:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yin     Edit/Delete Message
AJ,

Yang, I just remembered I had a girlfriend like that in high school - she was everything I ever dreamed for - intelligent, sensitive, passionate, well-spoken...

It turned out, when it came to basics(sex that is) then I needed a man.

I often think that being in love doesn't require the opposite sex as an object of your dreams. But when it comes to making noocky , oh, well, everyone decides for themselves.

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Irish Eyes
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posted August 08, 2004 10:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Irish Eyes     Edit/Delete Message
Yang-

You can be best friends with this person. LLL and I have been best friends for years. We are VERY straight and love to tell stories of our love lives. We also share all of our life experiences. We swear that one day we will live in the same house, have a garden, sell jam at a roadside stand, and she will let me put plastic pink flamingos on the roof. In turn I will listen to all of her civil war history stories. And the kids will have a home to come home to where they will know that they are loved by their mother and aunt.

It's like I tell her "Best friends are like cancer, you have to cut them out to get rid of them!"

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LittleLadyLeo
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posted August 08, 2004 11:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LittleLadyLeo     Edit/Delete Message
Aww Irish, I wuv you too. But don't forget about the crocheted slippers and needlepoint t-shirts!

Sex is meaningless in a truly spiritual relationship. (personal opinion here - that may change in the future, but is what it is for now) If you feel you must physically pleasure someone to show how much you care, you may want to re-examine how much you care.


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Irish Eyes
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posted August 08, 2004 11:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Irish Eyes     Edit/Delete Message
Ahhhhh! My growth speaks!

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Yang
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posted August 09, 2004 05:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yang     Edit/Delete Message
THANK YOU ALL.

I am not involved with anyone(male or female).
It is just that I was thinking about this the other night and how would I react if it happens to me whether it is tomorrow or in 20 years time!
I wouldn't know what to do until(and if) it happens.Then I would see what I will do!

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Kat
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posted August 10, 2004 07:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kat     Edit/Delete Message
Yang,
You mentioned that you do not want to have a relationship because of religion, society, etc. If you are gay - that is simply who you are. There is no choice in who you are. God made gay people, whole, perfect, and truly loved. Being gay is a state of being like having blue or brown eyes. Being gay is not the activity of having sex. Having sex is a result of your preferences. A young teenaged girl who wants to kiss a boy never questions whether she is gay, she just excepts this as her way of being. She may grow up become a nun and never ever have sex and she is still heterosexual. Some gays marry and have children - this does not make them heterosexual. What I'm saying is that being gay is not a choice, so if a religion or sociey says that it is wrong they are not fully understanding the facts. They have made a judgement based on their limited beliefs. Some people will not change their beliefs because they feel that they are right and everyone else is wrong. To admit that they were wrong would just be too much to handle, afterall they would then have to question their upbringing religion, and way of life.
The choice then rest in your hands to figure out if you are gay or not and whether you want to accept yourself or not. Keep in mind that God loves and accepts you no matter what. God made you! I personally think that God created gays to challenge the truth of our beliefs. If something is true it will hold up no matter what - many religions do not hold up to this test.
My guess is that you are fairly young and may or may not be gay. Sometimes we admire a friend of the same sex so much because part of their personality we would like to have as our own - though we are not gay. I recall a friend who liked my sense of style and would dress like me. Some friends may have personalities that we wish we had. List what qualities your friend has that you admire. Then at the top of the list write --- I wish I could be more like this.
You may want to pay attention to whatever sexual (non emotional) feeling that you have. If you are turned on by this person or other people of the same sex - your most likely gay or bisexual.
Give it some time and remember to keep an open mind.

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sthenri
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posted August 10, 2004 09:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sthenri     Edit/Delete Message
You could live with your same sex soulmate, and share the day to day stuff, and have a boyfriend when and if needed.

Natasha
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LibraSparkle
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posted August 10, 2004 10:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LibraSparkle     Edit/Delete Message
I'm with AJ on this one... just "do it"

It could turn into something beautiful. Who says gay people don't have family values... sure, they're not traditional family values, but they ARE values. That's all that's important IMO.


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Ok... I'm goign to share something very personal here, because it fits...

In my young and wild years, I was considered to be bisexual. I don't know that that is something that ever actually goes a way, the difference now is that I am monogamous. With other girls it was more flirting and one nights stands.

I have a very close female friend that kinda fits this situation. We communicate nonverbally. We have conversations with our eyes. I don't have to say anything. She just knows what I'm thinking. This is one relationship I never took to that level because sex can ruin things, and I never ever want to lose her as my dear friend.

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pixelpixie
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posted August 11, 2004 02:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pixelpixie     Edit/Delete Message
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If you feel you must physically pleasure someone to show how much you care, you may want to re-examine how much you care.


Really? You think so? If I feel I want to physically pleasure my husband, or my friend because I love them, and it bursts out of my very skin, with my need to share and touch and feel, I don't actually love that person?
Highly disagree.
BUt I do agree with the notion that there are many kinds of love, and sexuality is only one way to express it, and not the only way.. but I don't think I would have to re-examine my motive of loving, simply because I am sexually attracted as well? They are not exclusive, but man, they enhance each other. Quite a necessary thing for me. I don't know what I'd do without a physical outlet, quite honestly. Not that I don't recognize the spiritual one..... but sometimes they are one and the same.

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Yang
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posted August 11, 2004 02:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yang     Edit/Delete Message
Ohhh knowflakes,knowflakes,knowflakes.

First of all let me tell you something personal,very personal.

I DONT KNOW WHAT I AM!

I dont know if I am gay,straight or bisexual.Sexuality,to me, is confusing.

I dont have a problem being gay(if I turn out to be one) becuase the religious part doesn't bother me one bit.
BUT my family is the problem. They dont agree with homosexuality.And I dont want to disappoint them.
But in the end I will most likely turn out to be bisexual.
There you go!

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pixelpixie
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posted August 11, 2004 03:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pixelpixie     Edit/Delete Message
Oh, Yang! You are a Libra, right?
Who even cares. What you do with your life is YOUR business. If you feel love and attraction for anyone, it is your business. Man or woman.
I am married to a man, but I know tomorrow I could absolutely fall for a woman too. I have crushes on women stars, I have sexual dreams about men and women. If I think someone would have a problem with it, I simply wouldn't mention it in their presence. Because it is their problem, not mine. What is wrong with loving people, being attracted to people? NOTHING. So go to it. It is alot more common than most would like to believe, through the 'stifling' nature of society and Religion. You are normal. (I mean.. not a freak) Can you fit any oher part of your personality into such tight constraints? Can you say.. I only like hot drinks. It only feels good to have cotton on my skin. I only talk in a quiet voice.I only talk to people I actually know.
So why do it with your love and sexuality? I only like women.
I only like blond women.
I only like blond women who don't smoke.
I only like blond women who smoke cigars and are actually brown haired and dye it, and only then if they only talk to people I know.
It's really quite ridiculous.
Just be.
Be happy and love who you want to love. Love another in six months.. whatever works for you, as long as you are respectful.

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Yin
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posted August 11, 2004 03:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yin     Edit/Delete Message
What Pixie said.

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astro junkie
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posted August 12, 2004 12:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for astro junkie     Edit/Delete Message
OK ... so Yang ... we are family ... Pix too ...

Let's take one of the most confusing "cases" in modern history. Anne Heche. I'm not even considering her astrological placements here because I'm being very general about a complicated person.

She said when she was living a gay lifestyle, she was not attracted to men. And that when she got married to that guy, she was not attracted to women.

Well - if you believe any of the f'ing politically correct crapp they keep serving up society, you're simplemindedness has no way to wrap itself around all that. Not to mention, you cannot find anyone by the water dispenser or the coffee pot to have a conversation about this with, lest you find the memo about you being handed around behind your back.

What it means is, when she was living a gay lifestyle, she was not attracted to other WOMEN EITHER. When she got married to that guy, she was not attracted to other MEN EITHER. She was monogamous.

Just tell anyone who tried to f with your head about this to f-off. Our family is HUGE.

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pixelpixie
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posted August 12, 2004 01:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pixelpixie     Edit/Delete Message
Yes, We are wrapped together all over the world!!! My brothers ands sisters in spirit.

*Hey!! Get your hand off my side of the table*
*Maaaaaa! He's bugging me...*
*Mom!!!! He's still looking at me!!!*

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astro junkie
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posted August 12, 2004 02:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for astro junkie     Edit/Delete Message
... hee hee ...

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Yang
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posted August 12, 2004 04:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yang     Edit/Delete Message
OOHH THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU everyone.
I am not alone in my dilemma

I will just do what I feel I want to do.
Bisexuality!


I am

Love you all with all my

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astro junkie
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posted August 12, 2004 05:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for astro junkie     Edit/Delete Message
Just love the person you love for the person they are.

Despite what some people think, lesbians CAN be lustful & chauvanistic. They CAN become violent towards their partner. It's all the same shyte. If you love someone not for what they look like but for who they are, you're on the right track.

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LibraSparkle
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posted August 14, 2004 04:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LibraSparkle     Edit/Delete Message
Hey Yang,

Just wondering how your doing... if this question is still floating around in your head.

I think there is something very beautiful about being capable to appreciate the beauty in another person, male or female. Maybe being Libras makes it a little easier for us

I hope this isn't causing you too much grief. I have a theory (that I'm sure a lot of folks will disagree with.. that's ok). I think everyone is Bisexual. The soul is sexless. The soul doesn't respond to physical characteristics. The soul reaches out and finds connections with other souls regardless of sexual orientation. We are sexual... homo, hetero, bi... none of that really matters.

Just more of my

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Yang
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posted August 14, 2004 07:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yang     Edit/Delete Message
Ahhh thank you LS for caring about me.

I am over my question-it was just a thought that came to me unexpected!But I guess I will have to wait and see what the future holds!
Your theory is quite profound but I tend to agree with you.
The soul has nothing to do with whether the physical body is male or female-it's there to fill it up.
The soul is, I think more, contains both sexes(there is a word for that but I can't think of it at the moment),therefore the soul can be with someone of either sex and not worry about homosexuality!It finds its connections with other souls that are far more important than worrying about the sex of the physical body!
That is my theory anyway!

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