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Topic: Chiron/soulmates
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astro junkie
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posted September 05, 2004 05:36 PM
 
"CHIRON / MOON ASPECTS The Wounding: An emotional wound. Taking on the mother's wound. Experiencing or empathising with the mother's pain. The mother is wounded. Fear of one's vulnerability. Feeling betrayed or rejected by the mother/mother principle. Feeling unnourished, and subsequent difficulty in nurturing oneself. Feeling unsafe. Deep unnamed fears. Parental/environmental Message: "The world is an unsafe place. Don't trust anyone. We love you, but...." Internalised Message: "I feel rejected. I am vulnerable." Healing the Wound: Emotional release work. Healing through becoming a mother or nurturing others. Psychotherapy. Experiences of love and acceptance. Bach Flower Therapy. Pomegranate and Aspen flower essences. The Gift: Sensitivity and empathy towards others. The ability to nurture and heal others." IP: Logged |
scorpbaby
Knowflake Posts: 238
From: Ny, USA
Registered: Jun 2004
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posted September 05, 2004 05:59 PM
Thanks for that AJ 
So it is possible that he may sense my insecurities w/ vulnerablitiy. I felt he empathized with me, somehow he understood. IP: Logged |
astro junkie
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posted September 05, 2004 06:15 PM
Yeah, Chiron is one of those relatively new discoveries on which there are a myriad of ongoing discussions. So - just try to be objective untill you "feel" Chiron, and then sense it for yourself above all..gloria ------------------
... it's better to light a candle than curse the darkness IP: Logged |
scorpbaby
Knowflake Posts: 238
From: Ny, USA
Registered: Jun 2004
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posted September 05, 2004 06:35 PM
ok this is weird. I felt compelled to do a first meeting chart for the 1st moment it struck me that something was in the air btw us.
I found in the chart that...
NN was in Taurus, thats conjunct my NN & Moon...and his Chiron.
And then Chiron was in Cap. Thats conjunct his Moon and Venus!
Oh maybe I'm making a mountain out of a mole hill but it seems like the cosmos were up to something there.IP: Logged |
eightdegrees
Knowflake Posts: 150
From: Burlington, VT, USA
Registered: May 2003
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posted September 18, 2004 08:01 PM
My Chiron falls in an important person's 12th house, conjunct his ascendant in Taurus, and his natal Chiron in Taurus. His falls in my 3rd house. Thoughts? Someone was excited about the 12th house placement, is is a romantic one?IP: Logged |
astro junkie
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posted September 19, 2004 12:37 AM
Scorpiobaby -When we all checked a while back at the date we felt that "first flush" with someone, almost every single person could find interesting Transits having to do with both people's NN, Moon, or Venus. IP: Logged |
scorpbaby
Knowflake Posts: 238
From: Ny, USA
Registered: Jun 2004
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posted September 19, 2004 03:33 AM
Maybe it was the transits after all!
UGH, now I think back on that day and I feel it was so surreal!
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GemStar
Knowflake Posts: 57
From: USA
Registered: Jul 2004
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posted September 19, 2004 08:15 AM
In the theory of Magi Astrology-the first meeting date has HUGE indications of the direction/destiny of the two people involved.That first 'moment' of connection is usually felt on both sides, even when not verbally acknowledged...and the magic of Chiron is always present in a big way for a significant encounter. Same goes for the negative aspects as well...the 'One-night-stand' aspect can show up....among others....very interesting actually. I have tested it dozens of times and time has always eventually proved the Chiron connections valid... I think Magi focuses correctly on the Chiron connections in such a positive way....I am not so sure that the negative connections were so bad (just to have any Chiron connection was important)...just illuminates areas where each person can help the other heal. What do you think? IP: Logged |
BugginOut6106
Knowflake Posts: 110
From: PA, USA
Registered: Nov 2002
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posted September 22, 2004 12:45 AM
Is it a good thing to have Chiron for both people in the same sign, whatever house?IP: Logged |
astro junkie
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posted September 23, 2004 01:56 AM
Because Chiron moves slowly, it is not unusual to find someone in your age group with the same Chiron. I don't know if it would be good or bad because I really do believe it would depend greatly on each person's unique chart.IP: Logged |
Librasagpisces
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posted October 04, 2004 12:27 PM
26Taurus
I too have that aspect, chiron conjunct vertex with someone. I'm going nuts trying to figure out what it means. I've tried finding info on it, but no luck. I have read that the vertex can act like another descendant in a persons chart. So I'm thinking chiron conjunct descendant, but I still don';t know what that means.
Hope I find out someday.IP: Logged |
astro junkie
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posted October 04, 2004 02:56 PM
With Chiron -"Suggests renown for our ability to teach, understand, strive for the impossible and restore compassion. We are seen as a healer for those who have lost faith or are in despair. The famous Guru." Here's more info too ::: www.thezodiac.com/notworth.htm http://finblake.home.mindspring.com/bfvertex.htm www.nrg.com.au/~d-falcon/News.htm
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puppyblew
Knowflake Posts: 105
From: usa
Registered: Jul 2004
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posted October 06, 2004 11:37 PM
i never thought much about chiron, but looked it up and found that my chiron is conjuct my ex's exactly. they are both in taurus at 22 degrees. my sun sign is a taurus and his chiron falls in my 4th house, where my sun and my chiron are located. odd. we had a very hard time extracting ourselves from one another. IP: Logged |
astro junkie
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posted October 07, 2004 12:12 AM
Yup - there's something to all that Puppy, I believe that too. Mr. L has his Chiron in Taurus too. *ahem* It's in his 4th House which my Cancer Moon thinks is just fine.IP: Logged |
Sunny Mavericks
Knowflake Posts: 55
From: CA, USA
Registered: Aug 2004
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posted October 08, 2004 12:18 AM
Hey guys, Synastry is so over my head... but how do you know where Chiron is on your chart? None of the chart making sites have that on there, and I have only found one that says anything about it at all. It said that I had chiron in Gemini and the guy that I like has it in Taurus. I have no idea what this means, and I don't know how to do the aspects and stuff to see if we are soulmates or anything like that. Can someone help me please? IP: Logged |
Eirian
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posted October 11, 2004 10:18 PM
hmmm, Chiron.......havent thought about that in a long time. I think Chiron is karmic. Just speaking from personal experience. I dated a man a few years ago who's Chiron was conjunct my Venus and Moon. It ended up being a nightmare lol......I hope everyone else's experience is much better with it than my own IP: Logged |
noreenz
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posted October 11, 2004 10:26 PM
Welcome Eirean! Wow, I would think that Chiron conjunct your Venus and Moon would be a good thing????yikes.
Sunny Mavericks-
Do you pull your chart up on astro.com?
Chiron is the symbol that resembles a key and I believe it comes up automatically when you do your natal. Lemme know if you find it.
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Eirian
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posted October 11, 2004 10:42 PM
hehe, well I don't want to discourage anyone. I am not sure if it was Chiron. There were other factors in our synastry which couldve led to that too. IP: Logged |
Dreamybecca
Knowflake Posts: 49
From: Madrid, Spain
Registered: Jul 2004
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posted October 12, 2004 10:09 AM
I just discovered that Chiron existed (not long ago) and I have just compared my chart with Mr.Deep's chart. This is what I got:
His Chiron (In Taurus in the 5th House):
*Conjunction with my Sun (in Aries 2nd House)
*Biquintile with my moon (Sagittarius 9th House)
*Square with my Jupiter (Cancer 6th House)
*Trine with my Saturn (Virgo 7th House)
*Sesquiquare with my True Node (Virgo 7th House)
*Conjunction with my Chiron (Taurus 2nd House)
*Sextile with my AC (is AC the ascendant?? If so, Pisces 1st House)Ok, and now my Chiron (Taurus 2nd House):
*Sesquiquare with his Mercury (Sagittarius 2nd House)
*Square with his Mars (Leo 9th House)
*Sextile with his Jupiter (Cancer 8th House)
*Trine with his Saturn (Virgo 9th House)
*Opposition with his Uranus (Scorpio 12th House)
*Biquintile with his Neptune (Sagittarius 1st House)
*Conjunction with his Chiron (Taurus 5th House)
*Trine with his MC ( Sagittarius 10th House) I know it is very long, but if someone could help me a bit to understand what it means, I will be very grateful
Or a site where I could check myself all this aspects would be great too!
Thank you in advance! IP: Logged |
Sunny Mavericks
Knowflake Posts: 55
From: CA, USA
Registered: Aug 2004
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posted October 23, 2004 07:51 PM
Noreenz,Thanks for responding! I found it, but I don't know how to tell what the aspects are or anything like that. I'm pretty new at astrology and can only look at the positions of the planets and houses right now- nothing with the aspects. This is mine: http://www.astro.com/cgi/chart.cgi?;nho2=3;btyp=2;mth=gw;hsy=;zod=;sday=23;smon=10;syr=2004;rs=;orbp=;cid=vuofilejNrre1-u1091246078;lang=;gm=a1;ast=&nhor=4 and this is the guy's:
http://www.astro.com/cgi/chart.cgi?rs=;zod=;lang=;ast=;gm=a1;orbp=;btyp=2;sday=23;syr=2004;mth=gw;cid=vuofilejNrre1-u1091246078;hsy=;smon=10;go.x=18;go.y=12&nhor=3 Can you explain to me how it works? I know that Chiron is really complicated, but if you could tell me that basics or something, I would really appreciate it. Thanks! IP: Logged |
noreenz
Knowflake Posts: 342
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posted October 23, 2004 09:19 PM
here is your synastry chart: http://www.astro.com/tmpd/achart_vuofilejNrre1-u1091246078.5156.17718.d61gw.pdf Your on the top and he is on the side...ie: you Chiron trines his Sun...see? here is your composite chart: http://www.astro. com/cgi/chart.cgi?nhor=4&nho2=3&btyp=621&mth=gw&hsy=&zod=&sday=24&smon=10&syr=2004&rs=&orbp=&cid=vuofilejNrre1-u1091246078&lang=e&gm=a1&ast= You get to these by going to astro.com, clicking on the "extended chart selection", you can then change from "Natal" to "synastry or composites" etc., then you look up the meaning of the aspects. I'll try and locate a couple good web sites for ya. By the way, you have his time @12:00 midnight......is that accurate? I THINK, that if you are uncertain of the time they recommend you using 12:00 noon........??? IP: Logged |
noreenz
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posted October 24, 2004 12:16 PM
Hi Sunny M-Here is a good place to start to compare the synastry aspects between your charts: http://www.horoscope-x-files.com/synastry/synastry-intro.htm *left bottom side of screen, good luck IP: Logged |
PhoenixRising
Knowflake Posts: 87
From: india
Registered: Feb 2004
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posted October 25, 2004 07:11 AM
NATASHA , what do you think about chiron oppositions? do u think thay are negative in a synastry? i have a sun opposed chiron ( both ways ) with the guy i love.. IP: Logged |
Sunny Mavericks
Knowflake Posts: 55
From: CA, USA
Registered: Aug 2004
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posted October 28, 2004 06:46 PM
Noreenz,Thanks so much!! I'm going to take a look at that right now. I don't know the time of his birth- I thought that it was midnight- thanks for correcting me! That changes a lot of things, so it's good to know. Blessings,
Sunny IP: Logged |
sthenri
Moderator Posts: 2278
From: Montreal, Canada
Registered: May 2003
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posted October 28, 2004 07:26 PM
sun opposite chiron? I had this with my ex, my chiron, his sun and we worked well together for many years. We are still friends except that he is a pig around the house, if he wasn't I would still be with him. And I don't bond to any one man ever.Natasha
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