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chrissymgreen
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posted October 14, 2004 12:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for chrissymgreen     Edit/Delete Message
dear all -

i found a good article on chiron:
http://www.innergies.com/astrology/articles/chrion_sixth_sense.html

there's also some other interesting articles on that site. in addition, they have a good planets in the houses and signs in the houses section!

-chrissy

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Heart--Shaped Cross
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posted October 14, 2004 02:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Heart--Shaped Cross     Edit/Delete Message
cool site. thanx.

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noreenz
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posted October 14, 2004 03:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for noreenz     Edit/Delete Message
wow, great site, thanx!

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innergies
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posted October 26, 2004 05:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for innergies     Edit/Delete Message
Hello all ~

I found this forum while checking my stats. Just wanted to say thanks for posting the link instead of copying all the info!! Some people just have no respect for someone else's hard, HARD work!

Thanks again. Gonna browse around the forum... looks like my kind of place!

Love, light and laughter ~
Shan

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Heart--Shaped Cross
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posted October 26, 2004 06:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Heart--Shaped Cross     Edit/Delete Message
Don't you mean, some people have no respect for other people's vanity?
What really matters:
The work?
Or one's desire for personal recognition?

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noreenz
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posted October 26, 2004 06:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for noreenz     Edit/Delete Message
Hey CMG,
Great site!

Welcome to LL Innergies, great name......hmmm I wonder where you found it. ;-)

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innergies
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posted October 26, 2004 11:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for innergies     Edit/Delete Message
Noreenz ~ thanks for the welcome!

HSC ~ As for your reference to which is the goal the work or recognition...

Well, I can't speak for others, but for me it's the work! I have put in SO many hours, days (and going on a year now) organizing, researching, reading, typing (hello carpal tunnel!)so much so that it really aggitates me to see somebody just copy and paste. I feel I didn't do that, so why should they get to be lazy. Got to be some morals somewhere.

And I've got a strong Virgo Asc, so I love to research and also to help others and if it's all neatly organized... well I can't help that

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Heart--Shaped Cross
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posted October 28, 2004 12:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Heart--Shaped Cross     Edit/Delete Message
innergies -

I'm not sure I understand.
If personal recognition is not a factor, -
If what matters is strictly the work - that it gets done -
and not who does it;
that it gets read -
and not who wrote it; -
Then, what difference does it make whether a person pastes the link, or the info;
other than the fact that pasting the info cuts out the middle-man
(or am I thinking like a lazy person)?

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puppyblew
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posted October 28, 2004 01:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for puppyblew     Edit/Delete Message
i always thought that linking to a page rather than mere copying was more of a compliment. in this way, you get to see the origional person's work in they way they presented it, rather than a cut and paste job. if you didn't want anyone to read your articles why did you put them online? i don't understand.

i would be proud if i wrote something and it ended up in a forum like this with someone calling it a "good article". they never said it was their own, so where is this lacking morals?

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astro junkie
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posted October 28, 2004 04:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for astro junkie     Edit/Delete Message
I am a writer, and have no interest whatsoever in credit or fame or money. As long as I know my work has inspired someone, that's enough for me.

Here on the forum, I'll alternate between cutting/pasting and posting a link, depending on a couple of things. One reason I'll cut/paste is if the Web site the info is on is so poorly designed, the colors and contrast hurt your eyes and makes it difficult to read. Another is to make it easier for anyone else reading the posts to just quickly see the info in front of them rather than posting a link and try to explain to them where they can see the info. Many people really are NOT Internet savvy, and they actually dread having to go to a link to find what you are trying to show them.

It just depends.

If the information is very long, I might link them instead of posting it all here.

Either way, I mean no disrespect to the original writer, and the more you surf the Net, the more you realize, Web sites often reiterate material without credits to the original writer.

As long as no one here is trying to take credit for having written something they did not write, which I doubt anyone here would do. I always put things in quotes if it doesn't come from me, and I try to include the credits if available.

For the most part, I think writers understand that once they post something on the Net, it's up for grabs. So if they are sensitive about that, there are a few options they can choose from that may help lessen "theft". They can charge for the information, or imbed credits within the work, or even ask the designer to use a method which discourages people from copying it by making it technically more difficult.


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chrissymgreen
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posted October 28, 2004 11:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for chrissymgreen     Edit/Delete Message
hey shan, i wanted to tell you personally (being the original link poster) that i really enjoy your site. that article on chiron is great, and that's why i posted it.

personally, i usually just post a link, although if it is just one tiny bit of information (like a couple lines or something), i'll copy and paste.

oooh! gloria, i *knew* you were a writer! tell me, have you mentioned this before in old threads that you can remember? because if i haven't read it here, then i must have dreamt that you wrote for a magazine. i think i also dreamt that i visited you down in florida or something...i used to live in florida when i was a kid for a couple years, fort lauderdale. i swear you were in my dream recently and we were in florida picking up seashells on the beach (my last memory of florida). funny, huh! what do you write? i bet witht hat sun-moon quintile you're very imaginative and creative with your writing.


ok, well, that eclipse last night filled me with all sorts of weird energy...either that or it's mars in my 1st house...hrmm...


c

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astro junkie
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posted October 28, 2004 12:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for astro junkie     Edit/Delete Message
Hee - Chrissy, you are a sweetheart. That's cool you dreamt about me. Yes, I've mentioned I'm a writer here before, but I'm not sure if you've seen any of those posts. I have a little bit of journalistic background, and currently trying to write and publish a book, I've got at least 4 or 5 books in me.

When people ask me what I write, I'll usually say, I can write anything. From music, lyrics to short stories, to poetry, to journalism, a children's book, as well as "copy" to represent a person or service.

Thank you for the boost of encouragement from the great astrological information you have provided me.

.gloria

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Heart--Shaped Cross
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posted October 28, 2004 04:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Heart--Shaped Cross     Edit/Delete Message
I hope i didn't scare innergies off.
If my message is anything,
it's that nothing is personal.
I hope that is clear,
but I realize its difficult to challenge people in this world without appearing to hold a personal grudge.

I've always had issues with taking credit for my work.
I do not feel that it is mine at all.
The moment I claim it for myself,
I feel that I have taken something away from it - from its true importance;
which (I hope) is impersonal and universal.

I feel like part of what is worthwhile in doing the work, is the fact that, by sharing it, I save others the burden of having to do it for themselves - just as they save me the burden of doing what they do. This is, I think, what "community" is largely all about.
It does not occur to me to think a person lazy, if they accept my invitation to partake of the fruits of my labor, and do nothing to point me out while they pass the plate around. They thank me well enough by simply passing it around.

But, I wouldnt be making such a point of it, if I werent somehow confused to some extent, and trying to persuade myself the rest of the way.

That, and the fact that, as a true Scorpio,
I feel like I was more or less born to play devil's (or angel's) advocate.

hsc

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"Let the beauty we love be what we do.
There are hundreds of ways to kneel and kiss the ground."
- Rumi

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innergies
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posted October 29, 2004 12:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for innergies     Edit/Delete Message
No you didn't scare me off HSC ~ I think this forum is wonderful.

Ok, back to the topic at hand...

I tend to live in my little world too much of the time! I have no problem with anyone copying and pasting some important paragraphs, but what gets me is when someone copies my entire page... graphics and all. This frustrates me b/c I normally spend a great deal of time designing my graphics and then organizing my page so that it is easily read. And also, when they copy the graphics too... which a LOT of people do this, it uses my bandwidth. I consider these people lazy and I guess the majority of my hostility comes from their sites. 99% of the time, it's somebody's personal blog where they were talking about screwing and doing drugs and then in the next thread they post an entire page of mine.

And secondly, the reason why I would like for someone to post a link back to my site is because I want to show all the other info that I have. I guess you could consider than selfish in a way, but it's kind of like a kid with a rock collection... they show you the first rock and you say, "wow, that's really neat", then they say, "well, i've got a bunch more that are even cooler!" I guess you could say there is a bit of vanity in that, but I will admit that I am proud of my work, but I enjoy sharing it even more.

And what HSC said:

quote:
I've always had issues with taking credit for my work.
I do not feel that it is mine at all.
The moment I claim it for myself,
I feel that I have taken something away from it - from its true importance;

Has anyone ever read the book "The Talisman" by Steven King"? It's the best book I've ever read. Anyway, there's a part in the book when the main character finally obtains the talisman and for a second he wants to keep it and not share it with anyone... but as he thinks this the power of the talisman begins to die.

This part rang so true to me, just as you said HSC. You must share, but all I ask for in return is that you give me credit for my "rock collection".

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