posted November 02, 2004 05:12 PM              

sounds like a harmonious match. for further insight, see topic (in astrology forum):

"when it looks good on paper"

posted November 02, 2004 06:26 PM              

It's difficult to find "free" detailed info on Composite details and aspects, but Chrissy might have her book handy and can help you a little bit.

posted November 03, 2004 09:16 AM              

Jupiter in the Fourth House
Jupiter Conjunct Saturn
Jupiter Square Neptune
Jupiter Sextile Uranus

Saturn in the Fourth House
Jupiter Conjunct Saturn
Saturn Trine Ascendant
Venus Sextile Saturn

Pluto in the Fifth House
Moon Trine Pluto
Pluto Trine Ascendant
Mars Sextile Pluto
Neptune Sextile Pluto

Sun in the Sixth House
Sun Conjunct Mercury

Uranus in the Sixth House
Moon Square Uranus
Jupiter Sextile Uranus

Venus in the Sixth House
Venus Conjunct Mars
Venus Opposition Ascendant
Venus Sextile Saturn

Mars in the Seventh House
Venus Conjunct Mars
Mars Conjunct Neptune
Mars Opposition Ascendant
Mars Sextile Pluto

Neptune in the Seventh House
Mars Conjunct Neptune
Neptune Opposition Ascendant
Jupiter Square Neptune
Moon Sextile Neptune
Neptune Sextile Pluto

Moon in the Ninth House
Moon Square Uranus
Moon Trine Pluto
Moon Sextile Neptune

Ascendant in Gemini
Venus Opposition Ascendant
Mars Opposition Ascendant
Neptune Opposition Ascendant
Saturn Trine Ascendant
Pluto Trine Ascendant

These are all the aspects, but I know that it is WAY too much for anyone to give me some input/advice on, so I just wanted to ask that IF anyone pulls out their book on composites can they tell me something about the aspects that THEY find important, OR the ascendant/Neptune, Uranus/Moon, and the Pluto aspects, oh, and the Venus/Mars conjunction.

thanks again Lovely, and Aquarian girl!

posted November 03, 2004 11:44 AM              

moon trine pluto
jupiter in 4th
pluto trine asc
pluto in 5th
sun conj mercury
mars in 7th
venus conj mars
neptune in 7th

the moon trine pluto composite aspect indicates an easy, powerful emotional exchange between you. jupiter in 4th makes for happy, happy home life. or a happy home if you have one together, that is. pluto in 5th means essentially a potentially powerful love affair. lots of creativity together. possibly children. venus conjunct mars makes for great sex. sun conj mercury means you talk to each other very easily - communication flows. umm...neptune in 7th means one or both of you are going to have rose-colored glasses on when it comes to this relationship. this could be very, very good. on the negative side it could mean one of you will deceive the other in partnership (i had this aspect with a guy i met and clicked with over the internet, turns out he was married). those are the ones i kinda just picked out.

i'll letcha know tomorrow what else i can glean from my (it's pretty good; i'd recommend it) book called 'the composite chart'. what i've been doing, i don't know if anyone here lives in a state where the store half price books has any locations (tons in texas) - but they're awesome to comb for astrology books somebody sold back and therefore are available at a steal (i spend 5 to 10 bucks on average for each book that would normally go for 25 or more bucks). the thing is, i don't think most people care to keep these books as references because the read what they want and then sell it to half price (hey, i've been at that poor place where i'm turning the apartment upside down for CDs or books or DVDs i don't REALLY want...they give good money, too). they have great deals on movies, too. i have this other addiction to combing the movie section for old italian horror movies. like mario bava stuff. i don't know what's wrong with me, but a good old fashioned gothic horror movie and popcorn can make my night. plus, bava was a painter and i just love his sets. but i digress. anyways, check them out if you can.

oh, that REMINDS me, gloria, i wanted to tell you - you'd appreciate this. have you ever heard of a bookstore in a town in texas called archer city? it's called all booked up. it's AMAZING, and quite well-known. the western writer larry mcmurtry owns it. he specializes in rare and used and first editions.
http://www.bookmagazine.com/archive/issue11/shopwatch.shtml

the great thing about his store is that it's in a town where FOUR stores are situated around the town square, and only one has the register. you just walk around town, with your books. the only resto in town is the dairy queen (of course - this is freaking texas we're talking about here). it's wonderful. i just love books. i thought you'd get a kick out of this, too. if you are ever in texas ... ya gotta check it out.

ok, that was off the subject. sorry. i need more coffee. i worked late. my head's pounding. i hate when i have to go to functions as the photographer - ugh, people just get to me sometimes. i wish i could go off to some place exotic like madagascar and live by myself.

oh, aquarian girl - i have composite pluto in the 12th house with my man friend, too!

c

posted November 04, 2004 03:47 PM              

neptune aspects, while they can be deceptive, aren't always. i'm a firm believer that what matters more (astrologically) is the synastry, anyway. i think the idea of doing a comparison of each natal chart *with* the relationship composite is a good one, too. that's supposed to show how each partner reacts or responds to the relationship and in the relationship.

and remember, a composite is nothing but a *description* of the relationship in many ways. it's not really descriptive of each person or their response to each other. it doesn't take into account each person's aspects or signs or house placements, which matters in how you respond to someone else. we're most attracted to the people with whom we share approximately the same percentage of hard & soft aspects. in a composite, the ascendant (or AC) describes how the relationship appears to others. for instance, i share a composite libra ascendant with my virgo guy, so this means we're an attractive couple to other people, even if the relationship is NOT that way, that's how other people view it because that's how a couple with this ascendant will present themselves, if that makes sense. the sun sign describes the base of the relationship. it is its primary focus. the moon is the heart of the relationship, and the sun the head. you get the picture. look to the signs in these planets and see what else you can determine. now, the houses the planets are in is where that particular planet's energy manifests in the relationship. i wanted to pick a few things for you:

jupiter in 4th - your relationship is likely to have a strong, reliable center. you will want to surround yourself at home in an atomosphere where genrousness and expansiveness are the order of the day. there will be a certain exclusivity about this r-ship where your home is your castle and you are at your best when you are at home together.

pluto in 5th - this position gives you power over others and each other through your ability to inspire, entertain, and emotionally enlighten. there is a great deal of power in this r-ship (easier to type since i keep typing 'realtionship' - funny). sex takes on great importance.

neptune in 7th - the nature of your equality in this rship is very idealistic and you are likely to strive to balance each other to perfection. it's the kind of rship which can dominate you both with the demand to be more than you can be but if you remember it's there to serve the two of you, not the other way around, all will be well.

mars in 7th - this is likely to be a high energy rship in which the majority of effort is put into building & sustaining the rship itself. if youre not doing something to improve and further the sitch with each other, youll feel like youre wasting youre time, which isnt necessarily the case. youll work very hard to have a relationship of equality. this can be a powerhouse relationship.

moon trine pluto - there is a fundamental line of emotional faith in your relationship that may not be relaistic in the outer sense of the word, but which you can lean on even to the greatest extreme. it is as if you know that in the midst of the greatest travail, angels will bear you up and it will all come out okay.

venus conj mars - this is a highly attractive and personally powerful conjunction. it is the perfect sexual combination, as it puts desire and the ability to fulfill it int he same spot. you may find yourself in all the rituals of love.

neptune opposite AC - being in this rship may be a lot like being lost in space. you are bound to idealize what you are doing with each other, and this will bind you together because you are each in some way a fulfillment of the other's dream. this can make it seem like amarraige made in heaven.

moon square uranus - there is an on again/off again quality to this rship where you can experience great intensity and self discovery. this will not be a ho hum affair, could be unstable unless other more solid aspects indicate otherwise. you will need room to be together, and be separate. dont force anything and it will all work out.

pluto trine AC - your physical appearance and presence together may be a lot more compelling than you realize. pluto's forceful support makes you seem as if you really mean business and represent something there is no point in resisting. the rship may have much the same effect on you as well.

ok, hope this helps! if there is anything else you want, let me know. i'm keeping this book here at work just in case anyone else wants to ask, too. im giving slightly summarized accounts (the paragraphs are rather wordy and include interpretations based on business relationships as well as personal, and also there's advice given that sometimes sounds too preachy).

chrissy

posted November 05, 2004 11:16 AM              

his venus, pluto, and mercury is in my 7th, his jupiter is in my 5th, (uranus in my 8th, and I have NO idea what kind of an affect that would have on me) we do have some "hard" ascepts with my saturn conjuncting his venus, both of our venus(es) squares the other person's mars, and both of our mars conjuncts one anothers descandant. Oh, and his saturn opposes my moon. And as far as midpoints, his moon conjuncts my sun/moon midpoint (if that even means anything), BUT my Saturn/jupiter conjucts his.

I know there are a lot more aspects. Chrissy do you know anything about synastry too? Thanks again.

posted November 08, 2004 11:56 AM              

sure, no problemo!

"...My venus, sun, mercury is in his 5th house, my moon is in his 8th, and uranus/jupiter in his fourth, my pluto/saturn is in his 3rd. Oh, and my Neptune is in his 5th too.

his venus, pluto, and mercury is in my 7th, his jupiter is in my 5th, (uranus in my 8th, and I have NO idea what kind of an affect that would have on me)."

this is all very good. the houses your planets fall in in his chart affect him more than you, and vice versa. let's see, with his uranus in your 8th, you probably experience him as a very exciting, though perhaps a bit unstable, lover. by unstable i don't mean he himself is unstable, i just mean he may seem a bit unpredictable to you, especially sexually. sex could very well be described as electric...correct? this is just a basic interp on my part, i'm sure there's more to it than that. i'm not exactly a professional, but one way i've gleaned information on the planets in each other's houses (i have an interesting mix with virgo sun/ gem moon boy: my neptune in his 1st 5° away from his AC, his mars in my 1st, my jupiter in his 1st, my sun in his 4th, his sun in my 12th, et al) is to do searches on the internet, and look for the sample reports some astrology sites do for celebrity and historical couples. then i search those charts for similarities, and get info for my own synastry chart. i think from what it sounds like, if i recall correctly, your chart with this guy's sounds kinda like antonio banderas/melanie griffiths, try doing a search on a sample synastry report for them and see if you can get some more info that way.

i do want to say one thing, with your jupiter in his 4th, and the composite jupiter in 4th, that's a big deal, kind of. to him it is, anyway. he's going to be extra-affected by that jupiter in his 4th, because the relationship itself reinforces that quality, if that makes sense. look for any other similarities in the composite, and you'll see what i mean.

venus square mars in synastry is not a bad aspect! it adds lotsa attraction and spice. venus squares are usually easier to deal with.

and with regard to sun/moon midpoints - his moon conjunct yours is good good good. the hard aspects are what to look for with midpoints. you probably feel the effects of this more, as the midpoint receives the energy here. he is going to be very emotionally appealing to you. i also have this aspect but in reverse with virgo/gem guy.

his saturn opposite your moon isn't so bad, either. if you look for another thread i posted called sun opposite saturn, i think, you'll see what i mean. basically, an opposition with saturn to a major luminary or angle (sun, moon, or AC) in synastry is likely to cause the sun, moon, or ac person to act as the light-giver to the saturn person. it may bog you down after a while. but then again, it may not.

really hope this all helps. if you have any other questions just ask, and ill try and give it a whirl.

c

posted November 08, 2004 12:09 PM              

the composite chart created by a natal and the composite is probably something you'd have to do by hand. there might be some places that do it for a fee, but it's not all that hard, maybe a little time consuming, to do on your own...

basically, list out what your chart is, sun through pluto + angles (include anything else you want, but sun through pluto plus the angles are most important). just list sign and degree. then list the same stuff for the composite. then, convert everything to a number based on the 360° circle...like:

aries – 0
taurus – 30
gemini – 60
cancer – 90
leo – 120
virgo – 150
libra – 180
scorpio – 210
sag – 240
cap – 270
aqua – 300
pisces – 330

so, if your sun was 18° taurus, you'd take 30 + 18 and come up with 48, and then list that number, along with every other planet and angle you want to use. for each chart, do both yours and the composite. THEN, once all those numbers are listed out, add it all. but only do sun to sun, moon to moon, and so on. so, say the composite sun was 2° aquarius. so you'd have converted that to 302, and you'd be adding 48 + 302 to get 350, and then divide that by 2, which is 175, which falls in the virgo area, and works out to 25° virgo.

make sense?

posted November 09, 2004 08:10 PM              

What I was going to ask is I see a lot of talk about where my planets fall in his houses or vice versa... How do I figure out where they fall? Do I just overlap the charts?

posted November 09, 2004 08:55 PM              

Lots of strange power trips, and fights over words,
I have no idea if it's productive or not, I wish I knew. I love Pluto in the 2nd, but of course it's not physical, just romantic and fun.

posted November 10, 2004 02:03 PM              

you know, weirdly enough, i think with that married guy i met off the internet that i liked so much before i found out he was MARRIED, i think we had composite pluto in the 8th. we argued a lot, too. it was weird, but i did think he was awfully compelling at first, probably because he had similar major almost exact aspects to pluto by his sun and moon, like me. plus he also had an almost exact (when i say that i mean by less than a degree) aspect between mercury and uranus, like me. i mention this because of the way i felt around him - mentally, just like well, he knew my mind, and i knew his. it was just a peculiar response to someone; i dont think ive ever really experienced that before. it wasnt like a sexual attraction, and it's not like i thought about him romantically. but there was something about him. anyway.

aquarian girl - i know just what you mean, sheesh. i have the capacity to be incredibly lazy. and all i ever want to do after work is go home, too, don't blame ya there. anyways, that book is good, see if you can find others, and let me know if you get anything else and have a recommendation (i read like...well, a lot).

where your planets fall in your partner's houses are easy to figure out. you just have to know your partner's time of birth, really, so that you can figure out where his/her house cusps are, all of them. so all you have to know is what is on their 1st house cusp (the ascendant) through the 12th house cusp. say they have aries rising (1st house), and libra descending (7th house). and then say your moon is in libra. it would likely then that your moon would fall in their 7th house - make sense? oh, and remember, where your planets fall in their houses affects them slightly more than it affects you. for instance, my virgo sun/gem moon friend's mars falls in my 1st house. which is probably why i feel a bit like im on drugs around him; he energizes my lazy self. also, i find him very sexy. he oozes sex appeal to me, even though my sister kind of thinks he's geek boy (just because he works with information systems and wears glasses and has allergies, poor fellow). then again, this coming from a girl who finds movies like 'white chicks' and whatnot funny. she goes for fraternity clones, herself. so i know i shouldn't pay attention.

anyway, hope that helps ya!

chrissy

posted November 10, 2004 02:11 PM              

so i guess i just wanted to know what you think of the 2nd house, then. is it more than just money? it can be about fun...? what's your take?

posted November 10, 2004 06:06 PM              

It would make sense this would work for you, there is always some insecurity in a relationship, but less with earth houses.
Most of all it gives warmth.

posted November 12, 2004 02:34 PM              

Venus Square moon attracts others with this aspect, needs domestic partners, but has a hard time being attracted to that person. May have an open marriage or be with someone not attracted to , or attracted to someone impossible.

Adores others, or attracts adoring fans.