posted March 28, 2005 09:59 PM         

How're things going? I like what Everlost had to say in his/her post.....

Everlost!

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i realised that my friends had different roles in my life,once i understood that,my relationships with each of them took on a new meaning.

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I understand your point Everlost, and I do agree, and someone said in one of the threads about sue's young Libra fella that "maybe he's giving as much as he CAN give." But I still believe that some sort of reciprocation is necessary and desirable in a friendship. There is give and take in every relationship, and I guess it all depends on how much one is willing to give without being allowed to also take. I believe it is true that the more you give the more you get in return (I'm talking about love and positive energy). But I also believe there can be poor investments of one's precious energy, and there really are energy-vampires out there! And I stand by my assessment of Young Libra's personal honor and integrity (NIL!)....

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I hope his light starts to shine now, and he stops experimenting with the "dark side" which unfortunately I got dragged into (if anyone want to hear I can explain its very Scorpionic and not for the faint hearted).

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PS: Remember when you wrote this?

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sue g
Knowflake
Posts: 397
From: ireland
Registered: Sep 2004
posted March 19, 2005 04:57 AM
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Hi Jezzebel, mmmm where would I start. This particular guy has been in my life for 5 years, just a friend (although I would use that word lightly). Basically he is very funny, charming, intelligent, intriguing, but he has a dark side where he can just flip from being light and airy to being quite sardonic, in a quiet way - never seen him shouting. I feel he would NEVER reveal his feelings. Hes had quite a lot of women, so he says, but youd never know because he is such a liar - when asking him once why he lied, he said "you gotta fill em up with ******** ". How strange that he chose me for a friend, as I am blatantly honest and at the moment there is no communication between us as he let me down in my hour of need. I find him very mysterious (I think thats his four planets in Scorp), very very detached (Aqua rising), unreliable (Libra maybe). We got very close a couple of years ago, would stay up all night chatting and my husband would go to bed and leave us to talk, talk, talk. I do feel he finds me very intriguing and coz I am a lot older finds that interesting. He says where women are concerned he likes "forbidden fruit". He is also a workaholic, almost an alcoholic (well drinks plenty when hes out anyway). And after all THAT...........he is the one person that I can be myself with, he feels so familiar, i love him loads and yet I have to let him out of my life coz he is a total head **** . I have asked others about him and they all say he is strange and why do I bother with him. I dont mind admitting that of late I have become a little obsessed with him - I find him alluring. He once called me "the healer" and I called him "the prophet" cos he is very intuitive, and if he wasn't so selfish and inconsiderate of others at times, he would be amazing. Even talking about him, I get a feeling in my solar plexus. I do think though that he is dangerous to himself and women and if I could have one wish at the moment it would be that he was out of my heart, because he is making my life very difficult. Jezzebel, anything else you wanna ask about this strange young man, go ahead. We have a 21 year age gap between us (I am the older one), but when we are together, we are equal. Take care, good luck love Sue x

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posted March 29, 2005 09:55 PM         

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Up thro the different lives I feel we have "taunted" the other, and I think in this one there was a weird sexual thing going on, very hidden, very destructive.

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posted March 31, 2005 10:24 PM         

I have another question: did you share with him what your friend said about your past lives together?

I picked some quotes out of your last post that I wanted to re-express for you:

"She too has a similar bond with a man who treats her badly." Az translation: you are hurt because you feel L-F treated you badly. It's hard for you to reconcile the love you feel with the hurt you feel, and no it shouldn't have to be this hard!

"Twin souls, maybe, but now I am aware of the implications of the term 'soul mates/friends' etc, not what I thought at all, and I feel not to be entered into lightly." Az personal opinion: I believe it is possible to share many lifetimes with someone who is NOT your 'twin soul' or 'soulmate', but that person is someone you have chosen to learn many life-lessons or difficult life-lessons from.

"Ive had not contact with him now for 4 or 5 weeks since I challenged him......this hasn't finished by any means." Of course it's not finished! He's already talking about your NEXT lifetime together making loadsa babies!! And there is something to resolve in this lifetime, but what -- do you have any feel for that? Does your healer friend have any clues? What about the Akashic Records -- can she access them? How do you feel you have contributed to his life and spiritual advancement, and vice-versa? Perhaps you were meant to "save" his life this time around.

"...my healer friend says to me and guess what she is a Libra, is 'you have to detach, you have to detach'. But Az, this time I think I have to for the good of everyone." I agree. But you are so conflicted and anguished about this that I hesitate to recommend (with my Mercury at 20 degrees Scorpio!) an immediate clean cut. How could I possibly know what is right for you? I can only listen to my inner voice and trust my gut feelings and reactions to what you write.

When you say that you have to detach for the good of everyone, who is included here? And you haven't mentioned much about your husband, except that he used to exit to allow you and L-F to talk all night.

"When I weaken I get glimpses of things he has done that I find totally enchanting...when I tune into that the yearning can become unbearable." Do you want to share this life with him? I think you know deep down that's really not a viable option right now. There is a man I know that I find totally enchanting, and with the number of Saturn and Pluto contacts we have, I know we have been together before (plus his Venus is in my 7th and my South Node is in his 7th). But he is with someone else now, I can't have him. I understand yearning. I know I don't have to tell you that you are committed to someone else also, and you have a young son who needs to be raised (I know where you're at -- I'm raising my 9-year-old alone, and raising a child without a father is one of the most difficult things I have ever attempted). I don't mean to be tiresome and I hope I don't offend you, but your 6-year-old is your top priority. Until recently, I have sacrificed my search for a companion for myself because my number one responsibility is to that child I brought into this world. Now that my boy is a little older and needs me less, I have been opening up to possibility of finding a companion again.

"One thing I know for sure I will love him till the day I die but cant put myself in a position to be destroyed again." This sounds so incredibly Neptunian that I'm going to have to go over to your other thread and check that out....but I'll post this right now to save it.

Do you know what Linda said about Sun conjunct Neptune (his Sun, your Neptune, orb 5)? It indicates more than one past incarnation in a convent or monastery as a high priest or priestess or a life as a religious leader long ago. Chilling, eh?!?

Hope you're doing OK today, I'm sending out a virtual hug......

(((((((hug)))))))

posted April 03, 2005 04:11 PM         

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Whatever other difficulties may arise between you periodically, for whatever planetary reason, your relationship is based on an endless supply of mutual compassion, born of many mountains climbed together in the sharing of living, loving, and foregiveness in countless former incarnations. The spiritual tie between you is profound and unbreakable. This is especially true if the conjunction of these planets in your intercharts is less than one degree apart, but regardless of the degree of the orb of influence astrologically allowed when calculating this aspect, the understanding and sympathy between you is remarkable. According to the ancients, the Sun conjenct Neptune (and also a sextile or trine between them), whether found in a comparison of two birth charts or in an individual's chart, incicates more than one past incarnation in a convent or monastery as a high priest or priestess or a life as a religious leader long ago.
As a result of the karmic implications of this planetary contact, there is much shared sensitivity in your relationship, an amazing psychic tie that allows you to read each other's minds frequently and, whether you realize it consciously or not, the two of you are able to communicate without benefit of the post office or the telephone. You may or may not have developed this potential, but you should try to do so. It's a valuable asset for several reasons.
You have a sort of invisible crystal ball between you, and ESP experiments could prove astonishing. There is much devotion, tolerance, and idealism in your relationship or association, and often, for reasons beyond the control of either, some form of personal sacrifice may be required. But don't be overly concerned about such a vibration. The subtle influence of this aspect will forge a strong link with the power to overcome any such temporary karmic demands. The only so-called negative facet of the Sun conjunct Neptune is that there may be rare occations when Neptune is deeply hurt if the Sun finds it necessary to break a promise, however minor, or when Neptune appears to be frustratingly mysterious and unfathomable to the Sun. Even so, the natural sympathy your relationship is blessed with will heal the hurt, so that your mutual trust is constantly renewed. It would take many powerfully disharmonious aspects in your intercharts to dilute this one.

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posted April 17, 2005 02:30 PM         

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What will I say to him, mmmmm, okay, just that I felt he had let me down very badly and that I couldn't risk being in a friendship where there were liest and betrayal - is that enough do you think??

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the degree of exhaustion that this connection brought to me NOW far outweighs the allure of the pull (if you know what I mean). Now a few weeks ago, I could never imagine feeling or saying that!!!!

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posted April 30, 2005 11:08 PM         

It's 20 Merc time! Today I got the two books on Sabian Symbols that I ordered. I will be doing some reading tonite, although I be sleepy right now, we'll see how far I get!