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sue g
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posted April 30, 2005 05:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sue g     Edit/Delete Message
I dont wanna sound like a wet blanket or damp things down for some of you guys who have been writing about finding your soul mate. Dont wanna bore you again with my story either, but I feel compelled to write anyway, even if it helps one or two to maybe learn from my story. I have just let go of a very painful (one way) friendship - me the giver, he the taker. The only excuse I have at my age is that when I met him I was quite badly depressed and had just almost lost my life through giving birth, so this experience didnt happen to me until I was a mother. Past life or no past life, I was probably putting out the signals that I was a mother figure and this young guy was at some level needing a mother. I was living in rural Ireland, didnt know anyone apart from my husband who was working long hours and I felt lonely, Anyway it turned out to be an exhausting bond, and I just feel so pleased to have the strength to let go now - no contact for the past 9 or 10 weeks and dont intend to either. I just wanted to warn others to be CAREFUL where you lay your trust, I was so vulnerable around this guy and allowed him to provoke deep feelings in me and I didnt learn to protect myself. Now I know it was meant to happen, but all the same it was VERY painful, and almost destroyed me at some level, So please be careful and mind your self, especially when you are down or vulnerable- sending love and light to all, God bless xxxxx

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future_uncertain
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posted April 30, 2005 07:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for future_uncertain     Edit/Delete Message
Sue G... thank you for sharing your story. You have been through a lot with this and I hope it continues to get easier with time.

I've always enjoyed your words of wisdom here at Lindaland, so I will take your advice to heart. I think you are absolutely right that under certain circumstances it is all too easy to let your guard down and find yourself, in the end, in a painful situation. I'm sorry to hear that you've gone through so much pain.

For this to have been an experience that has affected you so deeply certainly indicates that this was a soul union of some sort. I am glad that you have come to see it as a learning experience and that you have found the strength to move on, as painful as it was.

Lots of love to you, Sue, and keep getting stronger!

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Azalaksh
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posted April 30, 2005 08:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Azalaksh     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks sue, for putting this out there! You and I had to learn the hard way (hard-headed, arent' we?!?) that a deep and magnetic connection isn't always a positive one. My God, you've come such a long way in a short time! Your willingness to take out your feelings and actions and examine them impartially and with love is extraordinary!

Please forgive me if this goes against what you and others (including Linda) believe, but I don't believe in the premise that God split us into two halves, male and female, because we were naughty eons ago, and it's our job or mission or something to go out and find our "Soul Mate".

I would like to copy in what Sylvia Browne says -- I recommended her book "The Other Side and Back" to you, hope you can pick it up soon and see what your healer/medium friend thinks of the ideas she puts forth.

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If you've seen me in lectures or on Montel, you might already know that this "soul mate" thing is a subject that really gets on my nerves. In fact, I'd like to track down and kick right in the shins the person who started the rumor that one of our main purposes in life is to find our soul mate.
It's not.
The odds against it are astronomical.
And even if they weren't, the soul mate we find in the course of this lifetime wouldn't necessarily be a lover or spouse at all. The closest thing I have to a soul mate on this earth is my granddaughter Angelia.
Many people look so disillusioned when I announce that the soul mate search is a myth, like I'm taking their favorite fairy tale away. I'm not, believe me. Giving up the idea that there is a soul mate for us somewhere and it's our job to find them can be downright liberating. Few things bring tears to my eyes more quickly than clients who stay in abusive relationships because they have confused the constant emotional intensity with their concept of what having a soul mate must be like. Even clients with perfectly nice marriages sadly tell me that their greatest failure was in never having found their soul mate. The term soul mate gets mistaken for everything from infatuation to lust to an excuse for stalking, obsession, and domestic violence.
Maybe it will help if we get straight what a true soul mate is.
We are created with spirits that have both male and female aspects. We live lifetimes as both genders, as a matter of fact. I have never met anyone who's always been male or always been female every time around.
We are also created with an "identical twin" spirit whose male and female aspects are essentially mirror aspects of our own. That twin spirit is our soul mate. Our soul mate is not the other half of us, any more than we are the other half of our soul mate. I don't consider myself half a person. Do you, really? I certainly don't think there's anything romantic about thinking we are all a bunch of halves walking around. If I'm not half a person, and you're not half a person, why on earth would any of us spend one minute, let alone a lifetime, looking for "another half" that doesn't exist and that none of us whole people would have any use for anyway?
On The Other Side we're probably closer to our soul mates than we are to any other spirit, but we're hardly joined at the hip. We and our soul mates happily pursue separate friendships, separate interests, separate work and studies, and above all, our own separate identities. With our soul mates we enjoy the most intimate love there is -- free, unconditional, liberated and liberating, with a mutual knowledge only true identical twin spirits can share.
Like all spirits on The Other Side, each of the soul mates can choose to be born on earth for another lifetime. They might only come here once or twice, like my Spirit guide Francine. They might feel the need to come again and again -- I'm on my fifty-fourth time around, and my last, I'm delighted to announce. But compared to eternity, even fifty-four lifetimes amount to about a minute and a half.
Which brings up an obvious question: What are the chances that you and your soul mate are ever going to show up on earth at the same time? Why would you feel the need to, since you are always together on The Other Side anyway, and this experience we call "life" is really nothing more than just a quick trip away from Home?
Not to mention the odds against the two of you being on earth in the same general age range, enough geographical proximity for you to run into each other somewhere along the way, and the right gender for the two of you to become a couple, which seems to be the top priority of the whole soul mate myth?
So please, give yourselves (and me) a break and stop looking for a soul mate who in all probability is having a great time on The Other Side right now, waiting for you to come Home. Don't set yourself up for all that pressure and disappointment. Don't cling to a bad relationship in the misguided belief that it is, after all, your soul mate and you belong together, even if you're miserable. Don't devalue a perfectly good relationship because you're missing that "soul mate feeling". Don't believe for one second that there's only one person on this whole planet you're "destined" to be with -- what a depressing thought that is! And I definitely don't want you to reach the later years of your life thinking you failed because you never found someone who wasn't even here but whom you'll be having a wonderful, effortless reunion with if you'll must be patient for a few more "minutes" until you're Home again.
What you will find as you move through this lifetime are any number of kindred souls -- spirits you have known in one or more past lives. I'm sure you have experienced the instant feeling of familiarity, either good or bad, that happens on meeting a kindred soul. Sometimes that instant familiarity is the springboard for yet another earthly experience together, as friends, as lovers and spouses, or family members.

This book was incredibly empowering for me when I read it three years ago, and it changed my thinking and therefore my life.

I'm working on copying some of the synastry aspects from Relationship Signs for you sooz, so I'll sign off for now.

Love
'zala

PS: sooz, are you going to sign up at my Today is Official "The World Is Gray Not Black and White Day" topic at the Astrology Forum?!?

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sarah9
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posted May 02, 2005 01:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sarah9     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Knowflakes,

V interesting opinions on soul mates in thisthread and others. Ide like to write down my side too.

I actually agree with Azalaksh.A soulmate is and looking at it logically, should be an individual with whom we share a beautiful and positive bond.Not something negative and deep and dark. Whenever there is pain involved in a relashionship, i feel it is indicative of a karmic bond frm which one has to learn. Whereas soulmate relashionships are SO rare and u have the same depth but nothing hurts, nothing pains and there is never any agony. Thats what it means dosent it when u say u have found a soulmate? And if he/she is a soulmate then why should they hurt ur soul? They should benefit it, make it richer, brighter....that is what i feel is a true soulmate. Any rlashionship with excess emotion is always dangerous and indicative of karmic connections.

Just my bit.

Love
Sarah

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Heart--Shaped Cross
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posted May 02, 2005 11:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Heart--Shaped Cross     Edit/Delete Message
Good point.

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fayte.m
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posted May 02, 2005 11:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fayte.m     Edit/Delete Message
sarah9...Excellent!!!! Too often people confuse the often overpowering expressions of actual need and desires of the flesh, and the exhillerating throes of passion, as meaning they've found their soulmate. When one does encounter their SM, the physical package, age or sex, race, etc. will not matter, because it is not a physical connection. Our eyes can deceive us, our desires overwhem, and while with another, our SM could very well have walked through our lives, and we never noticed them. This could be some Karmic aspect at work, a necessary distraction, because it simply was not time for such an encounter. Perhaps it was because there was something we needed to learn first, through a connection with another, who had such lessons to learn also. : And another thing...if one caters to to physical attraction one can be fooled into thinking it is more than it is. Especially where past lives and or lonelinesss come into play. Look long and hard before you leap. If you do not, alot of innocent folks can get hurt if you indulge your desire.Look to the future...what will your indulgences bring? Will it be good for all concerned?

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sue g
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posted May 04, 2005 11:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sue g     Edit/Delete Message
Thankyou Fayte, your words really touched me, Bless you

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fayte.m
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posted May 04, 2005 02:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fayte.m     Edit/Delete Message

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LostInStrangeWorld
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posted May 05, 2005 08:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LostInStrangeWorld     Edit/Delete Message
Sue g,
I'm so sorry you've been through so much, honey! I'm sending you love & healing energy!

You're a strong woman. I know that pain makes you stronger. You're a fighter. Remember you're never alone. Life can be a whatever at Times, it's true! It would be nice if we could all, somehow cross over, somehow, through these computers of ours, and 'energise' somewhere nice where we can all sit down for drinks and chats! I would love to meet you all, there are so many nice people here. And we share quite a few things in common too. Oh well- nevermind- Time & Space are only illusions!

Azalaksh- I guess we'll never REALLY know the answer to that. We can only guess and go by our instincts, follow our hearts (as well as our heads).

LOve

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sue g
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posted May 08, 2005 02:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sue g     Edit/Delete Message
Hey Az, how are you? Your words, as usual really helped, I am beginning to see things clearly now and of course with you and others help, it has been invaluable on my path. I feel my strong neptune really did cloud things for me, but when I became stronger to see the difference in the karmic link and the soul mate thing, I began to feel more balanced. Hey I read an intersting thing, that once upon a time Virgo and Scorpio were the same sign (the symbol is similar isnt it)? Then came along Libra and separated them.............mmmm now isnt that interesting? Love to you Sue

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sue g
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posted May 08, 2005 02:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sue g     Edit/Delete Message
Hey Lost, many thanks for your very kind words and concern, sending you love and light too xxxx

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Azalaksh
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posted May 08, 2005 03:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Azalaksh     Edit/Delete Message
Hi sooz!

Re: the Virgo-Scorpio separation thing: so now you are joined with your "other half", n'est-ce pas?!?

Hope all is going well, I'm still working on your synastry with hubby (copying interesting aspects from "Relationship Signs").

What new adventures are going on in your life? Any new seminars -- what about the next phase of the Soul Recall thing?

Love & Hugs,
'zala

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sue g
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posted May 12, 2005 12:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sue g     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Az, How are you? Have you met that guy yet ? I am leaving the soul work alone for a while, what I went thro with Mr Libra has left me somewhat exhausted? He hasnt been in touch, it has almost been 3 months now - have a look in that crystal ball would ya - I am not sure whats going on for him - tis hard for me not to enquire how he is, but I have to stand back. So for the moment, no more focusing on the past, am trying to live in the present and enjoy my family, music and social life (out for the craic tomorrow night YAY)!!! Would love to hear from you and read some of your pearls of wisdom again - I love it when you read between my lines, it is totally amazing!!! Love and ROMANCE to you lovely Libran one xx x x xx xxx

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Azalaksh
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posted May 14, 2005 06:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Azalaksh     Edit/Delete Message
Hi sooz ~
Can we email each other? I'd like to talk to ya privately, LoveLady! My address is at my profile.....
'zala

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posted May 14, 2005 07:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for neptune's mermaid     Edit/Delete Message
Great thread I loved everyone’s posts

But I couldn’t help but notice one “error” ( well to me at least ) in what Sylvia Browne said.

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I'm on my fifty-fourth time around, and my last, I'm delighted to announce.

How does she know it’s her last? Is she suggesting that she’s enlightened??? Because if she is that is very impressive - it’s very rare to find someone who’s enlightened.

But perhaps she doesn’t mean it in the Buddhist sense…

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Azalaksh
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posted May 14, 2005 09:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Azalaksh     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Nurse Neptune ~

She says that we can choose to come back as few or as many times as we want to SchoolRoom Earth. She doesn't say that there is some kind of graduation requirement as I think the Buddhists do (??). I don't think she was bragging that she was "enlightened enough" now so she doesn't "need" to come back. I think it's more a matter of "wanting" to come back rather than "needing" to come back.....

Pick up a copy of "The Other Side and Back" and see what you think.....

HC 'Zala

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posted May 14, 2005 09:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JustAmanda     Edit/Delete Message
*Hugs to Sue G*

wow..the part about the soul mate and that bond not actually causing any pain, must mean that I've never found my soul mate yet, for every single relationship I've ever been in, is full of heartache and pain...I've never had a love relationship with anyone that they didn't break my heart..

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sue g
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posted May 15, 2005 07:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sue g     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Az, would love that, will try and mail you today, love Sue xxx

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neptune's mermaid
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posted May 15, 2005 09:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for neptune's mermaid     Edit/Delete Message
Hi HC zala

I’ll definitely pick up the book…I love these kinds of things.
I’m not too sure but I think Buddhist believe enlightenment means the end of suffering. She didn’t seem like she felt no suffering lol.
But her concept is still very interesting nonetheless. Perhaps we do come back to learn something.

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posted May 20, 2005 10:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for amisha121877     Edit/Delete Message
soulmates are meant to add, highlight, face past decisions, create new opportunities, draw attention to life's journey.

i feel you can know it is your last go around by the way you address all the obstacles, all the quiet times, all the happy moments along the way. there is satisfaction at the end. if you come to a point in your life where you are hesistant about your past actions, where you don't know yourself, where you feel like you have failed on this life's journey - you know you are not through with your cycle.

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posted May 20, 2005 10:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for amisha121877     Edit/Delete Message
p.s. soulmates are not always meant to take the role of a twin flame though - some people confuse the two. they'll say - this is my soulmate, we're getting married, we want to spend the rest of our lives together and this could be because of the change their life undergoes while involved with the soulmate and then feel that their whole life then and in the future should include the soulmate but that's not always true. sometimes, there comes a point where you and the soul mate go your separate ways but the lessons you acquired with one another and because of one another have prepared you for your actual role in this life.

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sue g
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posted May 20, 2005 12:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sue g     Edit/Delete Message
amisha, I loved what you wrote, totally understood it, totally related to it - thanks for being so profound - love and light Sue xxx

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posted May 20, 2005 04:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fayte.m     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Everyone!
A soul connection is someone we make a profound connection with, not necessary our soul mate. It could be simply our twin or compliment. At different stages of our life experiences and the things we need to learn, and they do, draws us together. But that does not mean it is a permanent connection,a true soul mate involving two COMPLETE souls not needing completion, no matter how deeply we feel about it. It might be the right one for right now, but not later. One of you may grow and the other not, or grow in different ways, necesstating the parting of ways. This can be a peaceful or a terrible parting. But to find your SOUL MATE, your ultimate and EQUAL PARTNER...., that is rare. Most of us must experience things in life with a soul CONNECTION,(or a series of them) the perfect one(s) needed for that/those time(s) to learn so when we meet our REAL SOULMATE we will be mature enough spiritually to be together in harmony. I think you would want to have worked through issues and learning experiences long before encountering you SOULMATE, as they too should have also done.If the issues are not resolved then it is not your soulmate or time yet to met each other. You will not draw togerther until you are BOTH READY. When the time is right, it will be so.

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posted May 20, 2005 05:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Peaches     Edit/Delete Message
I have never pondered the idea of just one mate. From what I gather from everyones input is I figure a Soulmate to be Muse.
Not necessarily your lover or girlfriend/boyfriend but one who inspires the creativity within you; a source of inspiration and stimulation should you falter.

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fayte.m
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posted May 20, 2005 07:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fayte.m     Edit/Delete Message
Peaches! Very muchly so!

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