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future_uncertain
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posted December 22, 2005 10:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for future_uncertain     Edit/Delete Message
You are all angels...

It is a complicated thing, and I know I'm not alone. Here's to those of us who walk the path of "togetherness" in solitude at times, who feel lacking in the midst of "fulfillment," who seek answers to questions that elude us, and who dare to hope for miracles in the darkest hours of the night.

To those who are driven by love to sometimes hurt the ones who love us the most, to those who prevent the plan from falling into place because in our hearts we seek a more perfect union, and, especially, to those who are on the other side of this fence, waiting patiently for the chips to fall.

Peace, Love, and Clarity, friends.

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lioneye68
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posted December 23, 2005 01:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lioneye68     Edit/Delete Message
I can so completely relate to this thread. I know that feeling of "something isn't connecting quite right" And you only notice it when it's lacking. You take it for granted when it's there because everything just feels RIGHT.

If that lacking feeling always creeps up on you, you can only rationalize it away for so long, then you'll slowly start to become unstable and self-destructive, or you're going to start passive-aggressively sabataging the relationship. Even to your own chagrin. Your self esteem will suffer because of this. You're denying yourself of something that is very important to you - true bonding at a gut level. Eventually, if you're even slightly in touch with your higher self, you will destroy the relationship somehow. You'll do it subconsciously. And it's for the best. If you're truly in tune with your higher self, you'll just tell them how you feel, and leave. But you'll suffer the pain of disappointment, disillusion and pangs of deeply missing "what could have been". This has been a karmic relationship, which often means growth through pain. And a feeling of unfinished business.

My ex, who I had this experience with was also a Virgo, with a Libra moon, Sag rising, and Venus & Mars conjunct in Cancer. He also had Uranus & Pluto conjunct his sun.

I *think* his Libra moon was afraid of the soul touching experiences. Too deep for him. Too scary. Too "all or nothing".

I don't know if that's it. Maybe he's just not ready to tap into that. It's all about the level of evolution one has reached. It's best to be with someone who is at a simular level of evolution as you. A little behind or a little ahead is ok, because you can pull each other along - but a large gap, it just means frustration and trouble for both parties.

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geminstone
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posted December 23, 2005 03:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for geminstone     Edit/Delete Message
... .... well, Thanks Acoustic...

~ geminstone

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sthenri
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posted December 23, 2005 11:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sthenri     Edit/Delete Message
Yes geministone that was great. It's true, it takes real work to state what you want in any relationship-sticking to that is the hardest part.
But that's so far ahead of the game.

Natasha

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pixelpixie
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posted December 24, 2005 12:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pixelpixie     Edit/Delete Message
Geminstone, Lioneye, wow, I'm breathtaken.


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crystelle
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posted December 27, 2005 11:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for crystelle     Edit/Delete Message
I'm so glad this post was brought back up...

It was immedietely one of my favorite threads. I've truly enjoyed everyone's insight.

Don't want to go too far into my brain right now, but just to add some small thing-

Ultimately all relationships are - are mirrors of our own selves. That one is not easy to accept is it?

I really love what geminstone said

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I also believe that, communication without the limits of ego, is all important...

reminds me of something I read that was chaneled from the Paladiens that speaks of how in the "old" model of relationships, we have all kept our "mirrors" slighly ascew, so that no one can really see themselves for what they truly are.

I feel that it is becoming more important for us to be REAL if we want to go onto the next level of existence--

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pixelpixie
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posted December 27, 2005 11:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pixelpixie     Edit/Delete Message
Initially more real is more painful.. But once confronted, it can be understood.

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crystelle
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posted December 28, 2005 05:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for crystelle     Edit/Delete Message
so true. Evolving IS (usually) Painful- growing pains...

we have to face our "demons" though and move through to the other side... as everything, it is a choice

anyone interested in a "real" relationship- I highly recommend reading this ...
http://www.worldtrans.org/lyssa/112edit.html

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pixelpixie
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posted December 28, 2005 06:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pixelpixie     Edit/Delete Message
I am reading it and I printed it off.. interesting to discuss this, and a lot of it makes sense.
My hubby isn't down with it, not open minded when he hears the word 'polyamorous' his possessive instincts come into play.
I was with it up until the end when I realized they were talking about different alien species, and I have no point of reference or a way to factor my own truth into it.

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