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histrionix
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posted May 23, 2005 07:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for histrionix     Edit/Delete Message
Last resort - I actually open up my mouth to ask another for advice. Alas, here I am, ready for some wisdom.

I'm in a 2 year relationship with a great guy, who really worships at my feet, practically. He believes I am the one, loves me crazy. Beautiful, intelligent, loving, I really can't complain.

But what breaks my heart every day is I somehow know he is not the one. I've tried. But I am always troubled and anxious when he talks of the future. Two years, and my soul is slowly not able to take it much longer. All day I think about the inevitable break up. I stick around, though, out of fear and weakness. I mainly fear his condition, if I were to break it off, as I have been the one to help him get his life back on track after his alcohol addiction and difficult emotional childhood traumas.

How does one approach this? Go to a person you've claimed to love, who believes everything is fine, and suddenly say goodbye?

I am torn. At some stage I feel like, well I made the committment, now I just gotta stick it out. But I'm not happy. I can't imagine things getting better with marriage or further committment.

But betraying him like this kills me.

My heart is breaking every day, and if his breaks, I don't know if I could live with myself.

I hate myself for getting into this.

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monad
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posted May 23, 2005 08:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for monad     Edit/Delete Message
as it tutrns out there is always someone for everyone.

rid yourself of self doubt.
You cant be too bad, after all someone loves you.
Let him know that there is someone for him too, always, and possibly tell him that you dont feel like hes the one for you, forever.
You may like to stay friends you may like to stay together but the important thing is that you both realise youre beautiful.
Let him know hes great, lest he be tempted to believe otherwise.

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sue g
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posted May 23, 2005 08:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sue g     Edit/Delete Message
I understand your position, I actually went ahead and married TWO guys who I knew werent right for me. now married again (third time lucky). The longer it goes on, the longer the agony - it will be painful for you, but also like a weight has been lifted off your shoulders, and he will get over it, time heals everything - love and luck to you both xx

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histrionix
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posted May 23, 2005 08:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for histrionix     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks for the kind words, I appreciate it. It's not that easy, however. He continuously tells me, without me, he is a lost case, and sadly, I know it's true. He's had a string of relationships, and this one he's made the absolute committment to, it's like he finally found that one - but she doesn't want him.

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histrionix
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posted May 23, 2005 08:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for histrionix     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks Sue G. I know a weight will be lifted, but don't you feel like, with your two exes, like somewhere out there in the world, there is a loose end? A person who gave their life to love you, and you just cut them off? I can't stand the thought of it.

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future_uncertain
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posted May 23, 2005 09:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for future_uncertain     Edit/Delete Message
Ouch! This must be very difficult for you. Does he really have no idea? Because if you are this uncertain and he hasn't noticed after two years, then you're right in your assessment that this one isn't for you.

I would think the best way to go about it would be to sit down and tell him that while you love him, you've been thinking about the future and don't feel you're right for each other. You may think of specific examples of areas where you each may be better suited for someone else.

This isn't much help, but I think you already know what you've got to do. It's just a matter of doing it.

Good luck to you, and stay strong.

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Peri
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posted May 23, 2005 10:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Peri     Edit/Delete Message
I think you have already done everything for him... and if you don't feel he is the one then no need to fool yourself, this cannot last forever and sooner or later to will have to make a decision.
You cannot live his life and do solve all his problems, you have done enough
You should live your own life and probably your karmic task is to learn to care for yourself and say 'no'
Love and peace to you

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sue g
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posted May 23, 2005 10:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sue g     Edit/Delete Message
If it is any help to you, no I didnt feel that loose end thing cos I was living a LIE and to me that was more unkind than staying. As for cutting them off, not that either cos I just didnt give up, I gave my ALL until I was exhausted so it wasnt until I felt really certain that I walked out, and guess what the first one is happily married now with two kids, as for the second I dont know, but he treated me so badly, I was glad to get away from him!! Dont get me wrong I grieved for both these lost partners, I felt a kind of death by ending, but knew I had to. I dont have any room for pretence in my life and I am so glad what happened did so for a bigger purpose (I am married with a lovely little boy now and there is no pretence in this relationship - challenges of course, but that is different) - I send you love and wish you happiness xxxx

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zoso
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posted May 23, 2005 01:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for zoso     Edit/Delete Message
Wow, Sue, I just wrote a little prose or whatever about how I am living a stable life with a bf that I know isn't the one. Only, when I wrote it, I wrote too quickly and skipped over the "f".

There it was staring back at me " a stable lie." Funny how the slips happen at the right time.....

I know this all too well. I have a taurus moon that really needs the security, but at what cost? I know I am not the right girl for him, but we do get along quite well on a daily basis. every time I try to break it off, I get lonely and we just have so much fun together. He is head over heels for me (one day he'll snap outta that!) I just hope he finds his one so that he can move on.

Good luck with your guy, I hope everything works out for you and sorry I don't have anything constructive to say except, I feel ya!

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future_uncertain
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posted May 23, 2005 03:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for future_uncertain     Edit/Delete Message
Zoso, that gave me goosebumps. I'm sure it stunned you for a minute when you saw that!

How long have you been involved in your relationship, and what is the nature of your feelings for him? (I apologize for interrupting the topic of this thread, but I'm curious if you don't mind.)

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zoso
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posted May 23, 2005 04:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for zoso     Edit/Delete Message
We've been together off and on (mostly on) for 7 years this upcoming August. Started very young. Made huge stupid mistakes together--the kind that shake your core.

My feelings are that I love him, I'm not in love anymore. I haven't been for a few years. I see us as partners in crime. We have a lot of fun, but the depths consist of painful memories. He is my best friend. i have a hard time calling him by boyfriend, but how else do you describe it? We live together like an old couple, but not passionate like it used to be. The passion part makes me very uncomfortable--not the affection, but the passion.

It's like in Back to the Future when they're "parking" together and she kisses him and says "I don't know what it is, but when I kiss you it's like I'm kissing......my brother."

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histrionix
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posted May 23, 2005 09:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for histrionix     Edit/Delete Message
The lessons life hands out are so incredibly complicated by our fear and anxiety.

Whilst I'm glad to know that some of you are in the same situation, I'm still NOT glad to know you are/were in them. It's such a confusing time, a time where you seem to question the very fibre and core of your being, as a result of loving a person like this.

I keep hearing phrases in my head - "love shouldn't hurt". It's crazy when the man you're with does nothing whatsoever to hurt you, and you're still hurting. It makes me turn back into myself and re-assess whether I'm seriously mental or something.

We don't lack passion, committment, fun, or love in its essence here, but the 'in love' part - on my behalf at least, it's not quite there. I keep honestly questioning, for the first time in my life, whether there is something wrong with me. I can't imagine my life without him, I don't want anyone else, and yet...I'm not quite right about it.

Future_Uncertain, he knows this intuitively, and we've spoken of it, and he has always been so brave, but we can't let go of each other. It's crazy, it's irrational, and unhealthy. And I blame myself, for being unable to set us both free.

Sue G - I commend your strength, and you know already it's responsible for the happiness you feel today. It's so good to hear you found your 'boy', that kinda stuff is mighty hopeful. You're blessed.

ZOSO - the way you described your relationship in your last post, is so similar to what I'm feeling, honestly. Thank you for sharing.

Guys, I have a decision to make, but I have never ended a loving relationship before, and I am scared and confused. I am wondering if my petty fears will destroy a relationship that I may later realize WAS actually the one for me.

I wish we had met at a time where I was ready for this.

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future_uncertain
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posted May 23, 2005 10:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for future_uncertain     Edit/Delete Message
I've messed up my message... let me try again!

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future_uncertain
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posted May 23, 2005 10:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for future_uncertain     Edit/Delete Message
Histrionix, my heart goes out to you. I know what you mean when you say that you wonder if later you'll regret this decision, and that if things had happened at another time, then everything might be different. Would it be possible for you to take some time apart from each other? Maybe the summer? It would be very hard, I'm sure, but it might give you some of the answers you're seeking.

Some questions to ask yourself-- if there was a way to make it work, would you take it? Or are you done? Do you look forward to meeting someone new with anticipation? Do you feel you just want to be alone?

I really hope that everything works out for both of you. If you're unsure about whether or not you want to spend the rest of your live without him, then I would proceed with caution, don't burn your bridges, but be honest. Spend some time with you.

(If you've read any of my other posts, then you know I'm being a huge hypocrite right now. Some things are easier said than done.)

Zoso, I don't know how old you guys are, but if you're in your 20's, then maybe you both have been growing a lot in the last few years and it's time to take a step back and reevaluate. If you're both older than that and have had ample time to experience other relationships and you know what it is you're looking for, then you may be right about being time to move on.

I had to rewrite this post because both of your stories are so similar that I mixed up a few of the details. If anything I've written doesn't apply to you, then that's why!

Also, this seems to be such a common theme here lately. I believe sue g started a thread on this already. It always seems to be the women who feel unfulfilled and the guys seem to really love them. I'm in the same situation.

I wonder if there isn't a universal problem here with an equally (although not easy) universal answer at the core...

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pixelpixie
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posted May 23, 2005 11:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pixelpixie     Edit/Delete Message
Good question to end your post with, future uncertain.
I am there as well... and right now I am okay with it, I want to bask in this love, because I know it is hard to find. ( Or at least, I am told)

Histronix~
Can you slowly distance yourself from him?
When he says things like "You are my everything, what would I do without you?" can you turn it around and treat it like a philosophical exchange? Tell him it has been in him all along, you were just there to point it out....? He needs to stand by himself, etc... all in the name of brotherhood and self love of course.. not your cold feet. Place the emphasis on his growth, not on your together growth.....
Be honest, but don't break his heart?
Interested in hearing more....

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histrionix
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posted May 24, 2005 12:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for histrionix     Edit/Delete Message
Well, my man and I just spoke about it an hour ago. Ugh, ugly conversations, I hate them, when it comes to separations. He is being brave and saying if that's what I want, I should put it into action and end this. I think he started weeping when we hung up. Naturally, my doubts render me reluctant.

I do think time apart is the best idea. I hope that one day, I get over the betrayal I've caused him, though. I know he deserves someone to fight for him.

But is a total cut off (ie no communication) the best idea? It sends a mixed message, obviously strong feelings are always present, emotional and physical.

But at the same time, it may not be fair to hang around.

I hope I am gifted with the wisdom to see this through.

And I thank all of you for your sympathetic msgs. Indeed there seems to be a lot of this type of scenario out there.

Guess we gotta learn to follow our confused hearts anywhere.

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Gooberzlostlovefound
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posted May 24, 2005 02:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gooberzlostlovefound     Edit/Delete Message
histrionix~ Wow, I'm sure that was really hard for you.

...But I think you did the right thing. There's no good reason to stick around if you know he's not "the one" and you're so miserable.

In time, he will be okay. And you will be okay, too. You may feel guilty for hurting him, but to hurt him was never your intention. You certainly seem to care very much about his feelings and I'm sure he will realize that.

Don't be too hard on yourself. From what you've described, I think this will all be for the best.


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future_uncertain
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posted May 24, 2005 06:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for future_uncertain     Edit/Delete Message
Pix... I brought up this idea with my guy last night annnnnnnnnd... he didn't get it. Go fig, huh?!

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pidaua
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posted May 24, 2005 08:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message
Yes...these exchanges are always like this..they are hard and they hurt. Pixie is right though, you have to bring it up and move with it.

*edit...just in case
~Pidaua

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future_uncertain
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posted May 24, 2005 09:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for future_uncertain     Edit/Delete Message
Pid, this is bad news! I know Mr. Tarus means a lot to you. You're a Sag too, right? This fire and earth thing can be a doozy...

I'm glad to hear you found your dream job, but I'm sorry to hear about you and your sweetie.

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posted May 24, 2005 09:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pixelpixie     Edit/Delete Message
My thought here for you Pid, and I know I am only going to say what you have already thought about...
but maybe there is a bigger reason that the two of you got together?
Wonderful feelings and all that draws you to him..... maybe he as meant to come into your life in order for you to be on this career path?
Maybe it seems shallow to say.. but you know what I mean... a bigger purpose, life plans and all that....
Keep picking at it.. marriage after all ( as you know) isn't necessarily permanent, yet it is, in a way.......

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pidaua
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posted May 25, 2005 11:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Pixie,

Yes, you are right . I have thought about the whole reason, season, lifetime. We are just going through one of those patches- our hours don't help at all. I come home about 7pm and he leaves for work at 7:40pm. We have about 40 minutes during the evening and less time in the morning..but we do have weekends. I think I just pick up on his sadness (if that is the right word) about me being gone for so many hours and the travel I will be taking with this position.

I am leaving for a training session in Tucson for 2 days tonight and as luck would have it, he is working days - SO...he will be joining me tomorrow evening. Then we'll leave Tucson and go up to Apache Lake for the weekend. We're trying...

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pixelpixie
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posted May 25, 2005 01:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pixelpixie     Edit/Delete Message

I know.. totally.
My hubby gets home from work, and drives me to work ten minutes later.
And I wonder why I don't feel close to him.

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pidaua
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posted May 25, 2005 01:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message
LOL...yeah..it is hard. Even though we have weekends, sometimes those 3-5 days of being two ships passing in the night..has a major toll on the old emotions!

Sorry you are going through it too. I thought that you two had odd hours.

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histrionix
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posted May 26, 2005 09:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for histrionix     Edit/Delete Message
Well guys, it's over.

I am so numb. Regrets and doubts and backtracks are in full swing: maybe I should have just 'taken some time apart' before ending it? Honestly, maybe I have over dramatised and maybe the doubts I had were normal. I don't know.

It sort of ended itself last night, neither of us actually even 'said it'. He was trying to be the rational one to talk me through it (Sun Gemini, Moon Aries), but it wasn't long before he was weeping, too. I couldn't put words together, I just felt this black hole in my heart.

I think the lesson here is that if something isn't right from the beginning, don't get into a relationship hoping it might dispel.

There's a notion that heartbreak always comes inflicted upon you by another. But it's amazing...the extent to which you can break your own.

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