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Tigerlily
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posted June 04, 2005 10:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tigerlily     Edit/Delete Message
It sounds like this relationship is a mirror for you. What you see reflected is what you need to work on and overcome. Jealousy comes from insecurity and this man helps trigger your self-esteem and trust issues. If you are having issues with being jealous, possessive, and/or needy it's about you, not him. (I know you know that, I'm just validating what you've said.) He probably won't ever be able to fill that space in you; and that's because you have to learn to do it yourself. Difficult relationships are opportunities for major personal growth. Our souls are often drawn to those who will reflect our greatest weakness and act as a trigger to expose and test it. Once the weakness is recognized it becomes an inner battle of re-directing or re-training your thoughts vs. giving in to your fear-driven emotions and letting them take over. When you feel jealous or possessive you have to remind yourself that it's not him, it's coming from inside you. He is helping to facilitate your lesson. When you have jealous thoughts you have to stop and take a deep breathe and then tell yourself that acting out or reacting from that place is a choice you don't have to make. It's hard work though. These kinds of lessons will really test you because it's easier to give in to feelings and react than it is to take control of them and re-train your thinking.

I'm learning a similar lesson. My husband is a Capricorn with Aquarius Moon, Libra Rising, Capricorn Mercury, and Sagittarius Venus and Mars. I'm a Cancer with Virgo Moon, Aquarius Rising, Cancer Mercury and Mars, and Leo Venus. I tend to be very intense and emotionally driven (though my Aquarius Rising helps cool me down a bit). I struggle with trust issues and jealousy, not because he gives me reason but because those are my issues. He helps me grow by reflecting my issues and pointing out that I choose how to act or react. I think my Aquarius Rising makes things easier because I have as great a need for space and independence as he does so we're compatible in that way. But I can be very jealous and controlling. Those are issues for me and being in a relationship where the love is so deep and so much is at stake really brings those issues out in me. So I'm learning all about this myself.

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Tranquil Poet
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posted June 04, 2005 11:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tranquil Poet     Edit/Delete Message
Ya know it's wierd. I always asked myself why am I not really like other gemini girls I have met. We are very much alike except for the clinginess, possessiveness, non flirty crap...and that's basically it.


I do blab and day dream and flirt......only if we are dating of course.


My true node is in cancer and so is my rising. My moon, venus, and chiron are all in taurus.


I blame that dammit.

I actually use to be worse. Capricorns try and disicpline in a way. I have noticed that. Or maybe it's just the females and males I am around.


We agreed to some space a day ago. he called me today though. We chatted and laughed. I have been ignoring him. But we agreed to speak once a week. We always do that.....then he ends up calling.

Don't wanna ignore the sexy beast...but it's just that for the first time I can really say I want space.


*Sigh.................I love him.


Honestly the first thing I like looking at, in a man is there eyes...then I gotta make sure you talk alot of course.....or at least listen to me talk. I don't care if you are ugly.


I'm use to having cancer boyfriends. Being spoiled...dammit.

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future_uncertain
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posted June 06, 2005 12:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for future_uncertain     Edit/Delete Message
Tranquil, you seem to be doing MUCH better now! I'm glad for you.

*And, yes, Acoustic God... where art thou?

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geminstone
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posted June 06, 2005 01:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for geminstone     Edit/Delete Message
Tigerlily ~ I feel all of your words,... completely....

Tranquil Poet ~ Though I am not involved with a Cap or, Aquarius anything, I do share that Taurian Venus and, Gemi Sun and, I have my Moon in Pisces, 4th house.... I am an emotional storm, full of neediness and, clingy as hell..... so much for that Gemini Sun! Oh, except that it happens to take residence in my 7th house...
I believe that, in seeing with the clarity that you have, so far, you'll be just fine. Sounds like you are listening to the whispers and, it's been my experience anyway, that those never end up wrong... Keep on!! Best to you.

~ geminstone

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Secret Garden
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posted June 06, 2005 03:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Secret Garden     Edit/Delete Message
yah...i believe lalalinda said in the Free Astro course thread that Gems tend to actually be very clingy and possessive, despite the 'stereotypes' to the contrary. I am VERY VERY clingy but i never show it....soemtimes i do and things fall apart...things get ugly,

With my Scorpio stellium in the second house that doesnt help....plus my rising is Libra, Venus being the focal point of my chart, is in the seventh (!). So i am very much into maintaining harmony...compromising...giving giving giving....but just getting the security of someone loving me in return. Its called hopeless clingifyingness in my dictionary.

i have yet to meet a gem that ISNT clingy or possessive or doesnt have problems letting go

rather pathetic state of affairs really

Love
SG

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Secret Garden
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posted June 06, 2005 03:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Secret Garden     Edit/Delete Message
wanted to add that, the Scorpio placements are really difficult...the kind that make u suffer and burn up inside....with all the clinginess and possessiveness and fear of being alone (venus in seventh with direct opposition to pluto), yet Scorpios willpower and strength forces me to be even more resilient today than i was yesterday....it never lets me lose....while inside i want to take a break and be human a while.

well tomorrow i go back...to two classes, work, tennis lessons, and moving.

im pooped!

but somehow at the same time i am energized,

isnt that the story of every Gemini?

Love
SG

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Tranquil Poet
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posted June 08, 2005 02:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tranquil Poet     Edit/Delete Message
UPDATE:


Everything is going well. Great like before. Must have been the transits

I left him alone for 2 days. Has been calling. Called 3 times today so yup....everything is back to normal

Damn venus conjunct uranus.

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AcousticGod
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posted June 08, 2005 03:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message
I'm here, and currently bored (but that has nothing to do with this thread).

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future_uncertain
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posted June 08, 2005 10:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for future_uncertain     Edit/Delete Message
THERE art thou!!!

I thought you got lost at the library last week...

Bored, yes, yes. I have things to do. But they're boring things. Blah!

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maya-v
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posted June 09, 2005 09:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for maya-v     Edit/Delete Message
The Empress ... I drew that card at tarot today .... maybe it has something to do with my mom visiting me after almost an year!

Its amazing how when you have a friend or a loved one with you, even the most boring things can take on a whole new tune!

I am discovering new ways to make even the smallest and most mundae stuff fun! Thank God for parents, sometimes they are the best thing that ever happened to you!

Cheers

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future_uncertain
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posted June 09, 2005 04:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for future_uncertain     Edit/Delete Message
They are an endless mine of lessons to learn.

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Tranquil Poet
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posted June 11, 2005 12:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tranquil Poet     Edit/Delete Message
Must be some great transits:

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Gemini sun, Cancer rising, Taurus moon

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AcousticGod
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posted June 11, 2005 06:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message
I'm ok with my parents, but I feel a true reconciliation (which would simply consist of me trying to be close to them) will only come when I make a conscious effort towards being close to them. I don't think they'll ever understand me, and likewise I won't fully understand them, so it will be a matter of will for me to reach out.

I'm honestly envious of anyone that feels an affinity for their parents. I have a certain affinity for my mom, but it's not complete...not the way it should be.

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sue g
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posted June 11, 2005 10:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sue g     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Acoustic, I spent my whole life waiting for that affinity you talk of and it never came but what did come was acceptance of them and that is probably the best we can expect (well some of us anyway). Mine are very old now and unhappy, but I know when I call them, it brings a little sunshine into their lives, I make them laugh, my Capricorn mother calls me "a little devil", my Aries father cries when I our conversation ends.I am sure you bring joy to your parents - you are doing good, you are a good person, I feel you know this deep down, love and trust Sue xxx

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future_uncertain
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posted June 14, 2005 09:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for future_uncertain     Edit/Delete Message
Acoustic and Sue G... I feel the same pain in regard to my family. I have a hard time getting over the loss of having that "structure" that a family can bring.

It's so hard for me to explain what it is I want to say. I guess I feel that there are certain things about oneself that develop within the family network that are close to impossible to create for oneself if he or she hasn't had that benefit.

I sometimes feel that it is our families that give us that inherent sense of self, that feeling of identity and belonging (even if those patterns prove to be negative) Even in families that aren't perfect, if there is love, then you are created in part by that support.

(So much to say about this and I really don't know how.)

I guess there are things in life that we should be able to take for granted and not have to learn, such as the fact that we each have worth and that we are at least partially molded by those who love us most.

Life and finding oneself is difficult for anyone. When you have no structure at all, no standard against which to measure yourself, no feedback on your development, it's a lot of hit and miss and frustration and confusion figuring out who it is you are and what role you play in this world.

That's a little hard to explain, because almost everyone struggles with these issues anyway. There's just something different about the experience when you've had to do it all on your own from the time you were very young.

I don't place my difficulties on a higher level than those who have had at least decent families... the difficulties are just different.

I could talk more about this if anyone wants to.

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AcousticGod
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posted June 14, 2005 10:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message
I think I see what you're saying, but I also think you should say more about it.

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pixelpixie
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posted June 14, 2005 11:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pixelpixie     Edit/Delete Message
I concur!

Please.. go on.
*maybe my dam will peek open a little too*

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