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kiwigirl
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posted October 08, 2005 04:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kiwigirl     Edit/Delete Message
Hi everyone

I need a little bit of advice about a male archer!

We have been seeing each other very very casually for about three months now and it has been a rocky road to say the least. He is totally into sport! which is great i like that about him, and totally into not being tied down in any way!

Being a scoprio you can imagine that my intenseness is probably a bit scary for him, yet he keeps on coming back, now this is one shy guy, he is totally shy around women he doesnt know, but around people he does know he is totally animated and quite amusing and very very opinionated.

Over the last three months we have had some really big bust ups (usually we are both drunk at the time) in this time he has never phoned me or text messaged my cell or anything, just either turned up where i have been or turned up at my house after his night out. Often we will have been at the same place and not even spoken to each other, i am close to one of his friends and he even told me that Mr Sag is totally scared of me, to the point of sometimes hiding when he sees me coming!

He is 24 years old and has never had a girlfriend, and until me never had anything more than a one night stand.

Last weekend i sent a couple of messages to his cell cos i was sick of his friends telling me how scared of me he was, the responses from my archer werent very nice and i knew then that it was completely over and done with. Fine by me i thought.

Then on Friday i get two messages to my cell, one wanting to see me and one apologising for his behaviour the previous weekend. I was gobsmacked. Over the next 24 hours i received 7 messages from him, i didnt even believe it was him to begin with thought one of his friends had got hold of his phone and was having me on.

Anyway, he came over last night and we had a great night, then he was asking me if i'd mind if he didnt stay, that he wanted to go home cos he had some stuff to do this morning and he didnt want it (our evening) to end on a bad note,he really wanted me to be ok with it, so i was like, of course i'm upset i like it when you stay, but you have to do whats right for you, so he gets up puts his clothes on then sits on the bed and starts talking to me about everything! How unhappy he is living here in the town where we live, how he knows there is so much more out there for him and he is scared he is going to never be able to leave here, and just a whole lot of other stuff.

It was so amazing cos usually we dont really delve too deeply into anything, and i saw him in a compeltely different light. I felt like we had moved to some place else with our "friendship"

Anyway, i dont know much about Saggitarius men and i would love some insight. I know he finds me attractive, but are there any indications that he actually likes me? I dont have any of his details..like birth date or time (he hates being asked questions, so i have to be really careful)so would appreacitae what you all have to say. If it is too bitsy and you need more information let me know ok.

hugs Lindalanders
Kiwi x

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future_uncertain
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posted October 10, 2005 09:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for future_uncertain     Edit/Delete Message
It sounds like he is opening up to you on a friendship level. As a sag, I know how important this is to an eventual relationship.

I've read more than once that saggie relationships tend to follow this order:

Sex. Friendship. Love.

You have to remember that Sag has two sides-- the outgoing, boisterous side, and the serious, introspective side. Not everyone gets to see both sides. If we like you we'll introduce you to both.

I see this was posted a few days ago... I hope my reply isn't too late. I'd love to talk to you more about this-- I've dated my share of lovely Sag men myself.

to ya, Kiwi!

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SparklingSag
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posted October 10, 2005 11:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SparklingSag     Edit/Delete Message
As a Saggie girl...friendship is so important to me. It's what I look for in a boyfriend - he has to be able to be my best friend (not literally) but someone who I know will be my friend as well as my lover. That is very true that we are two sides....the funny, happy, optimistic person but we have a serious side too. I worry too, worry that i'll never find someone who loves me more than a friend (this is where the whole friendship thing can get confusing:-)) but if he is opening up - that is a good sign. Take it light and easy and he'll come to you.
I find around different signs...like Libra I become quite happy, chatty and smiley....but around my close cancer guy friend, i tend to be a little more serious....he deserves for me to think before I speak with him. But I do lighten him up a bit. I've found too that I just have to be there and the silences are comfortable ones....

Anyway, i'm going off the topic...good luck with him.

Sparkling

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BlueTopaz124
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posted October 11, 2005 12:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlueTopaz124     Edit/Delete Message
I'd tend to agree...if he is opening up to you, that's a good sign...encourage that part. Sag's LOVE to talk and chit chat(most of us, anyways, I'm a Sag Sun too), keep things fairly light, throw in a philosophical bit now and then, but have fun, that's the important thing, and you'll have him coming around again and again.

kisses!
Laura

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kiwigirl
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posted October 11, 2005 07:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kiwigirl     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks for your comments everyone.

He is definately keeping an eye on me by spending even more time at my next door neighbours house! (Remember the Virgo guy Cassie???!!!) I lead a pretty active life so am not home as much as i could be so it is good for him to see i am out and about doing my own thing.

I havent heard from him since Sunday when he left my place so will just take it as it comes. I feel really ok about everything to do with him, which is unusual for me i have to say.

I wont be around LL as much, but Cassie if you want to keep in touch by email reply here and i will get Randall to mail you my address, oh thats right you keep in touch with Acoustic God, he has it...see how you feel anyway girl. Would love to hear more sag stories....lol....ahhhh men...bless them!

Hugs all round
kiwi x

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future_uncertain
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posted October 11, 2005 11:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for future_uncertain     Edit/Delete Message
You sound happy!

I'll get your email from AG. If you want to email me you can do it at

future_uncertain7@yahoo.com

I set up this account specifically for Knowflakes. Email me anytime!

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AcousticGod
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posted October 12, 2005 01:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message
Kiwi's email will be on your Messenger next time you log on to it, future_uncertain.

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future_uncertain
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posted October 12, 2005 08:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for future_uncertain     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks AG. You're a sweet

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SparklingSag
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posted October 12, 2005 09:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SparklingSag     Edit/Delete Message
You guys totally confused me cause my name is Cassie too! thats nice to meet another one.

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future_uncertain
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posted October 12, 2005 10:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for future_uncertain     Edit/Delete Message
You know what, Sparkling, she may have been talking to you.

My name is actually Carissa, but I thought perhaps Kiwi may have read my name wrong at one time.

Talk about a typical Sag foot-in-mouth moment!

Oooops!

Sorry Kiwi if I've stepped in where I shouldn't have...

This is pretty funny, isn't it!

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kiwigirl
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posted October 12, 2005 11:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kiwigirl     Edit/Delete Message
No it is you Carissa....so so sorry for getting your name wrong....am i forgiven??? lol

kiwi x

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kiwigirl
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posted October 13, 2005 07:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kiwigirl     Edit/Delete Message
future...i mailed you...just wondering if you got it as i seem to be having trouble receiving and sending some emails...

hugs
kiwi x

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future_uncertain
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posted October 16, 2005 08:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for future_uncertain     Edit/Delete Message
Yup! Got'er. You have mail, too.

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dorkus_malorkus
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posted November 05, 2005 04:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dorkus_malorkus     Edit/Delete Message
How come I only see the serious side of my Sag guy? Must be that Moon in Cap and Virgo Asc?

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future_uncertain
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posted November 07, 2005 08:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for future_uncertain     Edit/Delete Message
dorkus_malorkus-- could be the reason only you see this side is because he loves you.

The earth placements likely tone down his more sag-like qualities. My first house is cap and I'm not nearly as "sag" as the books would say I should be. Saturn certainly throws some shadows over my chart, but it helps keep me grounded.

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SparklingSag
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posted November 08, 2005 09:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SparklingSag     Edit/Delete Message
Hey, I am Cap Asc and it does at some points dumb down my Saggie side. People on first meeting assume I am serious and studious(which I am...) but then I have my goofy, sunny side.
Oh, the trouble with having a serious asc....
Sparkling

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future_uncertain
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posted November 08, 2005 10:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for future_uncertain     Edit/Delete Message
I'm hearin' ya, my Saturn/Sag sister!

My asc is Sag, but it's 28 degrees... first house Cap, Merc in Cap. People always mistake me for an earth sign (usually Virgo.)

Sometimes when I read Sag chapters in astro books I feel a little jealous of the carefree spontaneity that should have been my birthright, but, sadly, eludes me.

Really, I can be quite the downer. I do have a full arsenal of bad Saggie traits, though-- from the "generous" hips and thighs to the chronic foot-in-mouth disease. My friends refer to me as "the friend you don't put on speakerphone without advance warning."

It's embarrassing for everyone!

Thanks for indulging me with my sad Saggie pity party.

The End.

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future_uncertain
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posted November 08, 2005 10:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for future_uncertain     Edit/Delete Message
And, Kiwigirl! Climb down from that lemon tree and get back here!

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Planet_Soul
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posted November 09, 2005 12:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Planet_Soul     Edit/Delete Message
Hey My Ascendent's 29* Sag! i'm right in the club with you I'm shy and quiet around people I don't know too well, and have many acquaintances but few close friends. Just the other night at work, I was in a light hearted mood and completly let loose. I was joking around like crazy, and one of the guys was soo shocked because he'd never seen that side of me before
Kiwi, if he's scared around you he probably likes you very much. I get very nervous if I'm really into them.

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SparklingSag
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posted November 09, 2005 12:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SparklingSag     Edit/Delete Message
Im glad you guys feel the same! Its often why i love people that are fun and joke around...it makes me bring out my Saggie fun side. I adore libras...i think cause they love to talk as much as i can.

Sparkling

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Planet_Soul
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posted November 09, 2005 03:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Planet_Soul     Edit/Delete Message
I feel the same way towards Aqua's and Sags that are more fiery than myself.

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AcousticGod
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posted November 09, 2005 12:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message
Wow! A collection of serious Sags! I have a Sag with Scorp rising friend who can't be an altogether Sag a lot of the time as well. The benefit, though, is depth --the depth you can't see in stereotypical Sags. I think that's a very cool thing.

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future_uncertain
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posted November 09, 2005 01:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for future_uncertain     Edit/Delete Message

Still no Kiwi?????

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AcousticGod
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posted November 09, 2005 04:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message
HAven't heard from her in a couple days.

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kiwigirl
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posted November 10, 2005 02:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for kiwigirl     Edit/Delete Message
Hi there,

Have been spending time with my family, my beautiful nana passed away a few hours ago, we were all with her, she fought such a brave fight, now she is at peace and pain free. Bless her. So the last couple of weeks have been pretty full on.

Right, Sag males. I couldnt tell you a bloody thing about them except that they confuse the hell out of me.....especially the guy i was seeing. Since that night i described above, i havent heard from him? and i know he had a work function on last week and took my next door neighbours sister (who he thought he was in love with a while at the beginning of the year)

With everything that has been going on in my life i have decided to just let it pan out the way its meant to.

Interestingly though, the other week i was talking to a friend whose ex boyfriend works with mr sag and he told her that mr sag told him all about me! he said i was "sweet" which is means cool here in NZ and some other nice things. oh and her ex mentioned that Mr sag had been very very grumpy and serious at work! Yet i get competely ignored....i just dont get it. Although i am wondering if he thinks there may be a chance that he might hook up with the girl that lives next too me??? Really dont know, but i have to say i am pretty much hurt over his behaviour.

To be fair though i have seen him around town alot and i often just ignore him if he drives passed in his work van, i dont know why i do that.

Yes i do. I am so scared of intimacy and of letting men in, and i feel like if i reveal to him how i really feel about him he will just run anyway~! this weekend it will have been five weeks since he contacted me and came ot see me...that cant be normal surely???

buggered if i know.....I need to just focus on dealing with my families pain at the moment yet life just keeps on keeping on doesnt it.

Sorry if i seem out of kilter everyone, i was so close to my Nana and life with out her is strange already. she was so young too still had so much left to do you know.

hugs to you all....Carissa and Jason will email you in the next couple of days ok.

love and peace my friends
Kiwi xxxx

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