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hippichick
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posted February 12, 2006 11:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hippichick     Edit/Delete Message
Thank you, Merlot, you speak very kind words. Peace be to you and to us all.

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merlot
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posted February 16, 2006 09:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for merlot     Edit/Delete Message
He officially broke my heart now. He told me that he feels like it will work out with this other woman. He says he feels comfortable with her and even though he is not as passionate with her he thinks that is not important to him any more. That he is thinking about having children now and that the idea of impregnating someone does not scare him any more. I am so so sad. I feel so sick. I cant believe he has this power over me to make me feel so bad.

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hippichick
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posted February 16, 2006 09:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hippichick     Edit/Delete Message
Am sorry, Merlot. I feel your pain. This guy is immature, and very confused(he even seems to get pleasure from tortuing other souls.) I have worked and will continue to work very hard to find peace and love within myself and quit looking to men for that. Just when I think I have got it the universe reminds me I have still work to do. Take care of yourself and your child, you are too much of a bright soul to be brought down by the energies of low men. I am very peaceful today so I am sending you,
Peace, love and light!
Me.

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Mama Mia
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posted February 16, 2006 10:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mama Mia     Edit/Delete Message
Ahwww I feel your pain too, Hang in there this too shall pass. Get selfish and only think of you for awhile, pamper yourself hang out with your girlfriends and try and have some fun all that will help. He is confused and immature let it go. If he made the wrong choice trust me he will figure it out..

I do not know you can really lose yourself in an Aqua guy, I did but I found myself again triple fold and it was worth the pain I went through losing him casue now I am 10x's better...

Keep in mind and this helped me too when one door closes another one opens, he may have just opened the door for Mr. Right to come on in..

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JustAmanda
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posted February 16, 2006 11:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JustAmanda     Edit/Delete Message
You poor dears...my goodness aren't we all in the same Sag/Aqua boat? These stories, like Mama Mia, are almost identical to my own personal story of my Aqua...and no we aren't together...I had an Aqua while I was separated from my Leo husband...except my Aqua had a girlfriend...but, I still saw him anyway because it boosted my very low self esteem...and because he wasn't married to her and didn't love her to be honest...THEN the man married her!!!!! Tore me UP. So, I was like okey dokey, and reconciled with my husband...course this caused my Aqua to come after me even harder..and he was haaaaaaaard to resist. I separate from my Leo again, but this time my Aqua doesn't want to talk to me for some reason...unbeknownest to me, his WIFE LEFT him ..for another woman! And he sinks into depression and won't talk to me...I reconcile AGAIN with my Leo, and 6 months later, I hear from the Aqua that his wife left him and they are now divorced...HELLO! WE COULD HAVE BEEN TOGETHER IF HE HAD OF TALKED TO ME!!!!

So, I decide we'll just be friends...but yet, he is still talking about me in a sexual way...all the while he is dating someone...and I actually know this girl! After he confides in me about this girl, I ask him what attracted him to me because I am NOTHING like the types of women he goes for...I mean, he admits that he loves her to me! Oddly, his girlfriend now resembles his recently divorced wife!!! Ok, his response to that question was "I don't know what you want me to tell you..."

*BLANK STARE*

So yes...all you ladies out there who have travelled the Aqua road...I feel your pain too...I'll never ever ever understand my Aqua...never.

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sthenri
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posted February 17, 2006 12:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sthenri     Edit/Delete Message
It's funny that Aquas make great therapists, but such weird boyfriends. They can see their own problems, and others, but not if they are cornered or defensive. merlot don't feel bad as Libras are strong and marriage minded and he will run. Libra women are also NOT into taking care of the kids while Dad plays!

Mine have been
Kinky
Open Minded
Scared of Confrontation
Careful with money
Very curious about others
Private to the point of deception
Addicted to certain routines
Crazy about Sag or Scorpios
Not interested in children

It's almost like being with a Scorp except that they change loyalties to the friend who provides more social activities.

The one good thing about Aquas that I have known is that they forget any fight you have within a reasonable amount of time and are forgiving as friends. Other people remember every slight and get emotional.

Again great therapists for other people.

Natasha
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merlot
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posted February 18, 2006 11:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for merlot     Edit/Delete Message
All you guys are right on. Its pretty freaky to see that so many other people are going through this craziness as well. My ex is a Leo but I really ended up disliking his arrogance. (amoung other things)
Its so frustrating that the Aqua man keeps telling me he loves me. Its totally a mind f@#k. Of course I see him ending up marrying this Libra and its tearing me apart. I really really have to let him go b/c this is so unhealthy for me. Rationally I know what to do but emotionally...I love him and I wish I didn't.
Sthenri, his characteristics are exactly like your man.

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Lialei
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posted February 18, 2006 01:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lialei     Edit/Delete Message
I believe they may be the best pairing for each other. They have the potential to understand and accept each other unconditionally like no other can.
Yet, it's important that they come together at a time in life when they are able to join together without fear or doubt, holding themselves back from honestly expressing their true affection for one another.
If the Aquarian man can give the Sagittarian woman loving reassurance at times, without fear that it might sacrifice his freedoms....and if the Sagittarian woman can accept his love as the amazingly colorful replenishing passing summer thunderstorm that it is, without doubting his intentions...
when they truly come together in mutual admiration, acceptance, honesty and freedom...

there is nothing quite as Mystically Beautiful.


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merlot
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posted February 18, 2006 04:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for merlot     Edit/Delete Message
Leilai, who is the best pairing? Aqua and Libra?

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BlueTopaz124
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posted February 19, 2006 07:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlueTopaz124     Edit/Delete Message
I believe she means Aquarius and Sagittarius...right Lialei?

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sthenri
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posted February 19, 2006 07:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sthenri     Edit/Delete Message
Aquarius men get divorced a lot,
Merlot would you chance a divorce with him???

Do YOU think it could really work??

only you know for sure and you have to be real with yourself. That is what love and devotion is, devotion to the idea. Can he do that?

If not then find someone else who can give you the best of him and more.

But why chance a divorce?? It's so painful and messy.

Natasha

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Lialei
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posted February 19, 2006 10:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lialei     Edit/Delete Message
Yes, that's what I meant, BlueTopaz.

"If the Aquarian man can give the Sagittarian woman...".

Especially so, if there are respective Scorpio/Piscean influences in their natals. (and some men are so Uranian influenced they may as well be Aquarians...this isn't just about Sun Signs .)

merlot, I'm terribly sorry to hear of your anguish. Love fortionately/unfortionately isn't something you can control. It's beyond us.
But it does come when you release, yet without anger and resentment... instead with loving acceptance.
If he is to find a way to you, it will be on his own time, in his own way.
Time is gentle in Love when the Love is True. It has its cycles it must move through...that each of you will have to move through on your own to gain understanding enough to join each other in Pure intent.
Without motive, calculation, constraints or conditions hindering the beauty of its expression.
Time seems very harsh to a lover so heartbroken and forsaken.
But...if it is meant to be, it will.
If may not be. But, there has to be a let go, in order to receive. That's the way of the Universe...especially the Aquarian and Sagittarian Universe. It's two unconventional souls coming together...it isn't meant to be conventional.
Look for stereotypes...look for guidelines rules or regulations, and each of you will defy them (and love will elude you).
Another shared trait; rebellion.

Perhaps seek Your Own Truth for now. Remember and return to yourself.
You cannot lose what cannot be lost~ You.
You can't lose that treasure. Remember how special you are...how beautiful and how loving. Either way, his choice doesn't reflect on you. He is journeying and learning...just as everyone. %ucking up or not, it's not of you. It's a helpless and frustrating feeling. But...you have to surrender, like you said. Like grasping frantically for a feather in the air, the mere force of your exertion pushes it away.

If it is Destiny...time will tell. But don't let that occupy your attention too much. Focus on Life Now for Living however you can.
Easier said then done, I know. He did you wrong. It isn't healthy as it is now, and glad you see that.
Time does heal. Whether we expect it to or not. Horizons open for you again when you least expect them to.

Much to you.

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merlot
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posted February 20, 2006 04:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for merlot     Edit/Delete Message
Do Aqua men get divorced a lot? I thought that they were very loyal once caught?
Well, being divorced once, I am not looking for that reality again but then again, I am not so sure I want to get married again. I love the idea of life partnerships however so to me I think its the same.

Basically, I think he is ready to be caught...just not by me I guess.
Yeah, I totally need to get on with my life and stop obsessing the past.
Went on the WORST date with a Taurus. God he was such a jerk. lol

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sthenri
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posted February 20, 2006 11:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sthenri     Edit/Delete Message
merlot maybe you are not ready to date? If you like partnerships better, like myself, why not have a male friend to bowling with or play pool, see movies? Then ease back into dating later? A lifelong partner is a marriage, it's a commitment, the marriage is just the ceremony.

But if someone can't commit to you, then he can't commit to a lifelong partnership right? So I don't think he's ready to be caught at all, just testing himself, and leaning towards you. Deep down he is rebellious towards any commitment-and yes I know tons of Aquas and they are all divorced, getting divorced or thinking about divorce.

They just like to break things off and get back together, feels natural to Aquas.

If you love someone and have been through a sudden break for no reason, it's too painful to go back, you don't need a steady lover, just someone who sees the best in you, and believes in you. He doesn't have to be married to you to do that, but he isn't going to be a partial guy friend either.

There are guys out there who would love to spend time with you, just to be your friend, for years. Get some of those and then date.

It feels better,
I can understand you a bit because I have jupiter trine sun and sag rising and sag mars. I don't need to get married again either but I have come to realize honesty is just too good for me, and so someone who is not my true friend is not someone I want to hang out with-unless it's at work.

Even then I prefer to work with people I like and know.

I know a great Aqua who is involved with a married woman. The subject came up once and then I never wanted to talk about it again. I make sure I lead in discussions and that's fine with him, it's movies, work, people we know, art, theatre, but not romance, not his romances-friends don't need to know, they need to have fun with each other.

Dating is very much like shopping, you have to pick something fast.

My tip with male friends is don't flirt, keep it steady. Flirt with ones you really want.

It's more fun to be passionate than cool, but what you don't see is that your Aqua is pursuing what's easy and it's not your life. You were meant for more passion and that means the real thing. The real thing is not scary if you have male friends to hang out, there's no drama or fear.

The detached fly away lover isn't as interesting when you have more support.

Anyway that's how I see your situation from the outside, I could be wrong, but I do have a lot of fire in my chart too.

I broke it off with an Aqua last summer but recently had some health problems and I know he never would have supported me through it. I feel bad even talking to him about my health because he doesn't know what to say or do. How could I depend on someone like that, or push him? He can't be the kind of man I imagined him to be, or the one he wants to be. He wants to build a life and I couldn't perfect myself to stay in it. It was physically impossible for me to stay and so he had to detach.

But there are few women who could put up with his exacting standards-his daughter who is a very quiet Libra is devoted to him. Aqua men depend on a woman who looks up, and who needs him, plus he has a vision of himself as forever young.

There are some big conflicts in Aqua men about being committed because of how things stay the same, and that makes them feel old. Not saying anything bad about Aquas exactly because they are better for me than Libras, but they are conflicted and like to complicate things.

Natasha

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hippichick
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posted February 21, 2006 09:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hippichick     Edit/Delete Message
Natasha!
What profound words you speak and what truth! I, myself do not date. I will be 44 next month, been single for 4.5 years and really I do not like to date! I have been in relationships, but I tend to go from one to another with a time inteval inbetween (sometimes not long enough,) but I cringe at the idea of dating. I never even dated in highschool. I married my highschool sweetheart. I have always had alot of guy friends, more than girlfriends, especially in highschool.
Merlot, consider Natasha's advice, it is very well articulated.
I had a student with me at work the other day from a local health careers highschool and she and I got in a discussion about dating. She is about to graduate and turn 18. She told me she does not date. She wants to finish college first, get her own self in order then when she is ready for a partnership, marriage, whatever, then she will begin to date. I thought that was so smart and well thought out for a kid of her age! I told her my daughter, soon to 18 as well, but already graduated and in college had about the same view, but does not really want marriage. We discussed the availability of men (boys) her age and mutual maturity levels and there is really not much out there for her or my daughter.
So Merlot, I believe it is good not to date, especially when hurt is so fresh for you because you set yourself emotionally for the same thing to happen. Take time for yourself, be yourself and if someone comes along then he comes along, if not then that is ok, too.
Me...

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