posted March 20, 2006 10:52 PM         

There is a guy I work with and his birthday is May 13, 1967, born in Chicago, IL. I don't know his birthtime.

I feel this very strong attraction and I would like to know is it in my mind or in the stars?

Is this something that should definitely be pursued or ignored?

Thanks

posted March 21, 2006 12:48 AM         

I don't see anything wrong with it. Give it a go if you feel like it should be.

posted March 21, 2006 11:05 AM         

Good luck !!

Hey Nihilive

Did you ever have a thing with a Scorpio woman and if so, how did that work out?

Thanks

posted March 21, 2006 04:28 PM         

Yes, I had a very long relationship with a Scorpio man. It was fun but a crazy passionate rolling coster ride.

I heard if two Taurus get together it could be hard because they both are stubborn. But thanks for the support.

posted March 22, 2006 06:04 AM         

about: .. Lillith .. http://www.antonia-langsdorf.de/dateien/astrologie-antonia-langsdorf-essay.php

posted March 23, 2006 06:42 AM         

**I feel this very strong attraction and I would like to know is it in my mind or in the stars?**
well .. even without his birthtime .. there are a few aspects between your chart and his that would explain the strong attraction .. i shall post a synastry chart and see what feedback you may get from that .. also if you visit astro.com .. input what chart data you can ( use 12 noon if birthtime is unknown ) and see what info you get ..

in short .. in the 'synastry' .. (and in your natal chart)
your Sun trines his natal Pluto (4 degrees)
your Moon opposes his natal Uranus (2deg.) / Pluto ( 0.2 deg)
your Venus squares his natal Uranus (3deg.)

Mars on up .. are all 'conjunct' by aspect ..

posted March 24, 2006 08:45 PM         

I was also told my lith or chiron was in pisces and not a particular good placement for it to be. I read about how my mom was distant, which she was. Is his lith also in a bad place where his mom was distant? I noticed he has never talked about his mom.

It just feels good to be around someone who finds me attractive and desireable, I think. I am just wondering is it in my head or is he also attracted to me. We talk for hours and hours and he is very nice to me and very respectable. I am so use to guys always fighting with me, not physically but emotionally and mentally that it feels great to be mellow and be myself.

posted March 27, 2006 11:55 AM         

Him May 13, 1976, born in Chicago,IL. I don't know his birth time.

Thanks,

posted March 28, 2006 10:17 PM         

I am sorry his birthday is May 13, 1967. I am always transposing numbers.

.. sudden unexpected attractions likely .. as is a need for personal space in relationships .. .. and a moon/uranus aspect ..

This is so true. I worked with him for a few months and never looked at him in that way...Then one day out of the blue he was talking to me in a way unlike he had talked to me months before and paying me loads and loads of attention and having lunch with me all the time. I notice myself looking at him differently. And he is so not my type, meaning I may not have been attracted to him if I saw him walking down the street.

But now that I have met his mind.(If that doesn't sound too corny). I see him in a totally different light. It just seems very weird.

I don't know what the need for personal space is about though.

We do give each other space. We don't hover all over each other. I have this confidence that he really likes me as a person but I am seeing shades of gray on the romantic side.

Then one day we talked for 8 hours straight. I felt a great mental, intellectual and somewhat emotional connection.

I want to know is there anything in HIS chart they may point out he is attracted to something in MY chart.

HappyDragon,
I read some of the point on the Calling All Bulls thread. It was very interesting. I am a Taurus but I have never truly felt like one. I feel like a Gemini trapped in a Taurus soul. Being a Taurus I am supposed to be coupled up with someone for a long time because we love security, which I do but my life as been that of a Sag, Pisces, Gemini or any other sign who falls in love often but also experiences constant breaks in relationships.

I had my chart done a few years ago by an astrologer who told me I was very Aquarian. I told her I did not see anything Aquarian in my chart but she said because I am tall and something to do with Uranus. But I do feel like a Taurus imposter, except for the fact I know how to make money and keep it.

posted March 29, 2006 07:02 PM         

.. synastry chart below .. next post ..

... here's one link to a book intro about astrology .. (it may help) .. http://www.happydragon.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/A.F.L.G.html

posted March 29, 2006 09:30 PM         

a basic guide to symbols and aspects http://www.happydragon.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk

good for 'aspect' information ..
* http://www.cafeastrology.com

posted March 30, 2006 10:38 AM         

i've just re-registered at astro.com (lost password) ...
while i was there .. i input your data to see how the chart would match up with calculations done here .. (wanted to know about that Nept to MC transit) .. turns out that there is a v.small difference in the Asc/Mc deg .. so at astrodotcom that particular transit is not showing just yet on the 'forecasts' ..
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however this Short Term transit showed for you (and most of your age group)

Venus Square Neptune exact at 06:59
activity period from 29 March 2006 to 31 March 2006.

Soft lights This influence stimulates your romantic imagination to a considerable degree, making you somewhat unrealistic in your dealings with loved ones. Usually this is not serious; this day may bring pleasant times of soft lights and romantic reveries. Daydreaming is also a characteristic of this influence, which is fine unless it interferes with necessity. In fact, this daydreaming tendency can manifest itself as artistic inspiration. If you are an artist, creativity of a high order can result. In relationships you must be most careful. You may expect your loved one to live up to an impossible romantic ideal that no one could or should try to attain. In most cases this influence has a short effect, constituting a passing mood and not a source of real problems.
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re: the synastry thread readouts .. ... if the birth time is unknown .. then the Moons position is unknown .. as are the 'houses', Ascendant and Midheaven (MC) .. so any aspects to His moon should not be counted .. also .. much of it will be 'conjunctions' between the outer planets .. and the suns are too far apart to be 'conjunct' ..

am just looking for some info re that Venus / Uranus aspect in your chart .. ( i have same aspect ) but the little computer readouts (like at astro.com) .. don't realy explain it in depth ...
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(from the 'clik to veiw' at astro.com)

this is what their readout sais ..

*Venus Square Uranus* (natal aspect)

Your close personal relationships may be changeable and unstable in that they form and break up quite rapidly. Or you may attract friends who are rather unusual or very exciting. You want to avoid relationships with people who are dull and conventional.
Unfortunately, with this aspect you may be unable to accept your need to be free. In this case you may attract unreliable people who eventually leave you or break the agreement between you. But if you accept your need for freedom and limit your close relationships to those who can understand it also, you will attract people who are similarly inclined. Or you will discover that you can be close and friendly with someone and still have freedom, as long as you give each other enough room to be yourselves.
The square from Venus to Uranus shows that you tend to be fascinated by individuals who have unusual qualities. You are not really sure you can ever accept the responsibility of belonging to one person.
You win friends easily but you are not committed to them, except socially or superficially. Love, however, is more difficult, because of the demands involved and the limitations on your freedom.
.. If you apply the same attitudes to your professional interests, the results can be devastating.
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i shall try and write out more or less what an astrologer told me about that aspect .. funny thing was .. when he visted to do my reading .. he took one look about my house .. 'n said .. "yep .. this is what i would expect from a venus/ uranian person" .. i think there was an LL thread on the subject but i've since lost the bookmark/link

posted March 30, 2006 10:54 AM         

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*Neptune trine Mars*: Painless lessons (**)

Beginning of April 2005 until end of January 2007: This is not a good time to strike out boldly into the world to further your own interests. However, this influence does provide the opportunity to learn certain very valuable lessons without suffering discouraging defeats.

During this time you will not feel inclined to assert yourself at other people's expense. Instead you may wish to work to help others without any concern for your own advancement. This is a good time for any kind of charitable work or for working with poor or otherwise disadvantaged people. Similarly you may become involved with others in an organization concerned with mystical or spiritual teaching. Whatever your area of work, the main consideration is that you work for knowledge and insight and to help others, not for your own advancement.

Do not be afraid that your life will lack fulfillment. You will find that ultimately all your activities for and with others for a common purpose will be fulfilling. We often have an idea that our own interests are somehow not consistent with those of others. But at this time you will discover that your needs and desires are identical with other people's. In order to learn this, you must get away from working solely for yourself. This influence will help you do that.

Related to the above effect is a greater concern with metaphysical and spiritual truth. You will become increasingly able to understand how you as an individual fit into the entire universe. Your idea of who you are and what your individuality consists of will expand greatly.

*Saturn square Mercury*: The wood for the trees

Mid August 2005 until mid May 2006: This can be a time of difficulties in communicating with others and of problems arising from a serious conflict of viewpoints. During this time your ideas and opinions, as well as your ways of communicating with people, will be seriously challenged by others. Disagreements may lead you to sever relationships or at least to consider doing so. You may feel gloomy, depressed and worried because people do not seem to share your ideas. This makes you feel alone, and at the same time you may withdraw from communicating with others. Therefore this is usually a poor time to make any decisions unless you have to. In your present frame of mind you are incapable of seeing the whole picture upon which any decision must be based. Also your tendency toward pessimism makes you underestimate the real possibilities.

Instead of withdrawing from intellectual conflict with others, you should try to recognize the sources of conflict and help everyone clarify the problems. The differences between you and others are real. Your ideas are fixed and clear enough that others may feel called upon to challenge them. You are in the position of having to defend and justify to others what you believe and think.

It may be that your thinking has become too rigid over the last several years. Challenges by other people can force you to examine your ideas and opinions to see whether they are broad enough to encompass your experience. If you discover that they are not, this should be a time of radical mental reconstruction. If you do not succeed in incorporating other people's challenges into your idea structure and instead just ignore them, you will undergo a much more serious period of mental confusion and readjustment in about seven years.

*Saturn trine Saturn*: Inner stability (**)

Beginning of September 2005 until mid June 2006: At this time you can incorporate into yourself the fruits of previous successes, look them over and appreciate them for what they were. The key idea is that you are in a position to understand your life and therefore better able to be in conscious control of it. This is not merely an intellectual understanding, it is born of experience. You have lived through certain things, and now you can proceed on the basis of that understanding.

Your business or professional life will run smoothly at this time. Employers and superiors appreciate your calm, controlled way of handling your work, and they can see the results of your past experience. Relationships, which reflect what you are, are also more stable at this time because of your own inner stability.

Your outlook on life has also reached a point of equilibrium. You have a good understanding of how you look at life, and it works well enough that you may not question it very much. The problem is that this is not a time of testing, so you don't know how well your ideas will stand up to future crisis. You only know how well they withstood past tests. But the future is always different, and what happens in the future depends upon what is true at that time. Therefore you must keep your mind open and flexible. You only know what you know, and that is not everything. Continue to examine yourself and see what could be improved. Even if your life is satisfactory now, it may not always be.

*Jupiter opposition Sun*: A turning point

End of December 2005 until beginning of September 2006: This can be and usually is a very positive time. But you can make more or less out of it, depending upon how you handle it. In most ways it represents a period of culmination in your life, and you will be tempted to expand beyond any reasonable limit. There is no question that you have a good chance for success in any one of a number of endeavors at this time and, within reason, you should pursue them. However, you should not restrict yourself solely to material and physical growth now. Even if you don't have all the material goods that you want, you should turn your attention to spiritual and inner needs. Ultimately, nothing satisfies like satisfaction. Objects that you acquire, possessions, money, and even social prestige are merely devices to make you feel that you have satisfaction. They are not the state of satisfaction itself. It is your inner difficulties that make your life less than it could be, even if you have corresponding problems in the material world. You must look for the solutions within yourself, and this time represents a turning point, where you should begin to look for the answers.

Under this influence, the tendency is to go after everything that you want in the material world without caring especially about whoever is in your way, to gather as much stuff as you can and indulge yourself in what you want. Then, as the influence subsides, you may feel that this effort has failed, leaving your life as empty as it was before.

Do not be arrogant toward others or assume that you have everything right. Through meaningful encounters with others, especially intimate one-to-one encounters, you can find out which way you should go at this time. Work with another person and think in terms of mutual growth. By trying to achieve goals set by both of you and by trying to be a twosome, you each will become more conscious of what you are as an individual. If you can recognize the real meaning of this influence in terms of your own life, this can be an extremely productive and growth-oriented time, a period that will always have meaning for you.

*Jupiter trine Moon*: With little effort

End of January 2006 until beginning of October 2006: Usually you will feel very good with this influence, quite optimistic and generous. You will be concerned about the welfare of those around you and will want to protect the people you love. At this time you will attract favorable circumstances and resources with little effort, which will seem very pleasant now. But you should not expect this to keep on happening indefinitely. In particular, people may come after you to meet you for some reason, and these people could be quite beneficial to you in business or personal affairs. Regardless of your own sex, you may very well benefit from women during this time.

In some people this influence may stimulate an interest in religious and spiritual thought, but your views would be more strongly concerned with ethics and morality than with a more mystical approach to religion.

At the very least you can expect to feel quite good at this time, and even if nothing tremendous comes out of it, you will have a feeling of satisfaction and of being at peace with yourself.

*Uranus sextile Sun*: Who you are

End of March 2006 until end of February 2007: The effects of this influence are not always spectacular, but if you watch carefully, you will notice that there are all kinds of new and stimulating happenings in your life. It is not running along in the usual manner. But the changes and the unexpected events are not especially disturbing to you. Instead they open up new understandings and opportunities and give you a feeling that life still has some excitement and potential for growth.

Opportunities may come about through friends, or they may simply pop up in some other area of your everyday environment. You may become involved with a new group of people who live in a way that you hadn't thought possible before. You may be attracted to new philosophies and new techniques for managing your life. This is one of the influences under which people begin to study astrology.

All of these events are expressing your desire for greater freedom of self-expression. During this time you have the opportunity to gain greater control over your life and to make it a better vehicle for what you want to do. Any relationship that begins under this influence will be an expression of this fact, and even old relationships will be changed so that they further your objectives. Opportunities for advancement in your work will come suddenly through relationships with your superiors.

All of this sounds like luck, but this influence actually is showing you that your life can be much more free and that your potentials are greater than you have realized. We all have a natural tendency to settle into comfortable ruts, which can be severely limiting. But the energy of this influence acts suddenly, so that you are forced to sit up and take notice. The purpose of this influence is to tell you who you are. It is not giving you anything you haven't earned
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that Pluto to Chiron transit didn't show .. i think ones needs to subscribe to get a forecast 'meaning' for that .. the above are just their freebee readouts ..

CHIRON in astrology ... info ..
http://www.astro.com/astrology/in_chiron_e.htm
http://www.astro.com/astrology/in_wounding_e.htm
http://www.martinlass.com/healhand.htm
http://www.martinlass.com/chiron.htm

posted April 03, 2006 11:42 PM         

You have made me so happy.
Thanks HappyDragon for all the info.

"Daydreaming is also a characteristic of this influence, which is fine unless it interferes with necessity. In fact, this daydreaming tendency can manifest itself as artistic inspiration. If you are an artist, creativity of a high order can result"

My reading above is so true. I daydreamed about 6 hours during that time. Sometimes I feel like I am stuck in my head. I think so much all the time that my thought like is way better than my real one.

My Venus Square Uranaus aspect is right on the money and I have heard this several time as well that.....My close personal relationships form very quickly and break quickly also. I do love eccentric men as well as colorful friends.

"You are not really sure you can ever accept the responsibility of belonging to one person"

I don't agree with the above statement. I would love to belong to someone....well at least the right someone.

HappyDragon, I am curious. What did the astrolgoer mean when he saw your house? Was it eclectic, super clean, messy, traditional? I am so unorganized, not dirty but I want to know is this an astrological aspect.

Thanks so much for all the information you posted.

posted April 04, 2006 09:16 AM         

I was a bit worried that maybe you didn't want that astrodienst forecast on these pages .. but wasn't too sure what you may or may not know about astrology .. ... re aspects in a chart .. i don't think a 'computer interpretation readouts' can realy do them justice .. i've yet to read one that gets the urns/venus spot on from my perspective .. ..
I started to type out a bit more re v/u .. but obligations are calling .. so must finish it later .. for now i'l leave this article here ... ( my house is chaotic, visualy .. but .. I know where everything is .. within the chaos )
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..... excerp from previously posted link ......

Feeling Separate: * A Uranian Dilemma *

Uranus represents shock and change, detachment and going one's own way. Uranus contacts in a natal chart can symbolize a need for freedom so extreme that it can lead to detachment from others. Uranian emphasis can indicate an openness to everything and, therefore, an unwillingness to commit to any one thing. Such continual expressions of individualism and the desire for freedom can lead to feelings of separation and alienation in a Uranian person.

Alienation is the bugaboo of those with a Uranus aspect. When we get beyond the surface images of the Uranian archetypes (Genius, Revolutionary) and explore the emotional framework of such individuals, we can see that alienation is a very real force in their lives, leading to the expression of other faces of Uranus, such as the Outcast and the Loner.

Think about it: Just one zap from a Uranus transit can awaken us to realize how stifled we feel in our lives. We may feel trapped and restless, straining at our bonds, disconnected from those around us, wanting a change. Sometimes, we have a sense of loneliness and alienation, without knowing where to turn. Well, a transit eventually ends. But for those of us born with a Uranus aspect, it can seem as though we experience this transit energy daily. We may feel restless, disconnected, dissatisfied, misunderstood, torn in different directions, and struggling to be a part of something that takes us outside of ourselves, outside of our loneliness.

Phyllis Firak-Mitz wrote an excellent article on Uranus that was published in The Mountain Astrologer. In this article, she rightly identifies the Uranus challenges as Abandonment, Alienation, and Aloneness. 10 Here is a planetary energy that embodies change, sudden insight, and revolution; yet, in a natal chart, it more often represents the emotional residue of genius and individualism ? feelings of alienation and aloneness.

Firak-Mitz points out in her article that Uranian-influenced individuals can actually create their own sense of alienation by (1) focusing on differences, (2) being rebellious, and (3) choosing to feel abandoned.

I would like to propose that Uranian individuals are attracted to the martial arts to heal, or at least to resolve, these feelings of alienation and aloneness. In their search for freedom, they are led to the martial arts, perhaps not with conscious awareness of their purpose, but still with the same outcome: healing ....

Uranian people thus attempt to heal the feelings of separation, of being an outsider, of having been abandoned; and to subdue the opponent, who is truly oneself.

.. above text by .. *Lynn Finger *

posted April 07, 2006 07:09 PM         

I don't mind you posting my forecast from Astrodienst. I appreciate it. Thanks.

I have been studying astrology for quite some time. Years in fact. But me having a Gemini ascendant and venus in Gemini, I can dabble in just about anything on the surface. I know alot about the planets and house placements but not so much about the aspects until recently.

I thought my Uranaus aspect meant I like frequent change and unusual partners.

Martial Arts has never done anything for me but I was told I really need to work out so that I will have a physical outlet because I have a lot of energy.

I wish I would have known about the Uranus aspect earlier. I may have done things differently.

I don't so much focus on the difference of people. I really don't. I can agree with the abandonment issues though.

"Uranian archetypes (Genius, Revolutionary".
Genuis, me? I knew it. I knew there was a reason I didn't fit in.

No matter where I go, I feel like I live the same life everyday. Nothing changes, absolutely nothing. I could move to a new town, get a new job or have a crush on a new guy but life is always the same.

To me that part is depressing. I am always trying to change or better my life but I truly live the same life no matter what year it is. I wonder is that a Uranus aspect.

Do you think I can control this Uranus need for freedom? Maybe I should learn to love to be totally enmeshed, and get a relationship like John Lennon and Yoko Ono and do everything together, then I wouldn't be alone.

posted April 07, 2006 09:36 PM         

glad you spotted that venus/uranus thread .. was going to mention it ..
*Do you think I can control this Uranus need for freedom?*
yeah .. but i see it more as a need for some personal space .. rather than absolute freedom ..
i've wanted to write some words from my own perspective .. about that particular aspect ..
but it also ties in with some other challenging aspects ..
so separating the electric venus effect from the rest is difficult ...

part of an interp for that aspect/placement .. is "not wanting to be constricted by feelings of possesivness and jealousy" .. but what happens when ones sun sign is known for just that ??
i think 'separation' be a keyword in understanding uranus .. but it doesn't necessarily mean that literaly when it comes to relationships ..

*No matter where I go, I feel like I live the same life everyday. Nothing changes, absolutely nothing.*
Taurus sun in 12th versus gem and urns in chart ... (?)

i can relate to your words .. have also figured feelings like that are phases .. usualy tie in with a transit from one or more of the outer planets
i've always have been one very restless bull .. mars / moon / jupiter in gemini .. plus an opposition between saturn and uranus .. (a conventional life .. or a bohemian existense .. had to find a balance) and that urns/vns in mine is venus in 9th / uranus in 1st ..
btw: urns/venus may indicate an affinity (not right word .. but ) with computers and art ..
no doubt venus in gem would account for some sort of restlessness .. maybe in the relationship department ..
sort of came to mind as my ex g/f has venus in gem ..

thing about urns aspects in a taurean sun chart is that .. taurus don't realy like change .. uranus begs it ..

out of curiosity .. re lots of relationship 'start stops' .. is it you or the other that initiates the 'breaks' ..
'cause again its against the grain of a taur sun .. i think taur prefers togetherness and stability ...
so its a bit of a conflict within the same chart ...

just quickly looked at your transits ... Sat is squaring your Mercury ..
so you could be thinking a bit on the pessimistic side at the moment ..
actualy it sits there till may 4th .. after which it moves past your merc ..

anyhow don't let it get you down (the urns effect :-) ) ..... i mean don't lose hope ok !! ..
btw .. i've not tried it myself .. but one of those pcychological horoscopes from liz greene at astro.co are said to be pretty good .. anyhow Blu ..
i've got to do my mars gemini act .. and see to something else .. hopefuly wont get totaly distracted :-))

posted April 08, 2006 05:36 PM         

from above away's .. :
* .. but she said because I am tall and something to do with Uranus.*
odd note:
according to this site re my asc (cancer 1st decan) .. everything makes sense except ..
.. i certainly don't resemble their physical description ..
more like the opposite .. tall .. not 'moonlike' ..
skinny .. according to some .. although lately i'm starting to resemble SlStr's 'nautical bull'
(in the taur thread next door) .. got to quit pizza for a good while :-)))

here's the link to the ascendant decans ... (starts on aries)
* http://www.elbertwade.com/page98.html *

re :
*What did the astrolgoer mean when he saw your house? .. Was it eclectic, super clean, messy, traditional? *
somewhat chaotic, disorganized for sure :-) .. 'electric' features mainly due to my interest in guitar/amp electronics .. bits 'n peices lay about the place .. but they are sort of organized .. sometimes embedding themselves in the decor ..
*Was it eclectic ? .. in a sense .. :+)
*super clean ? .. nope :-(
*messy ? .. yeah ..
*traditional ? .. on the exterior .. :-) .. (law requires these buildings to retain their original exterior ambience)
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