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AppleLove
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posted March 27, 2006 05:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AppleLove     Edit/Delete Message
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BlueTopaz124
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posted March 27, 2006 08:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlueTopaz124     Edit/Delete Message

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celticfyre
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posted March 27, 2006 10:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for celticfyre     Edit/Delete Message
Hey Girl!

I feel your pain --I know what it is like ---Just read over my thread. Just know I am being tested right now. Not to become a full blown Scorpion whose tail has been stepped on due to the pain I have so dear sister I am right with you crying those rivers of tears

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sweetlibra
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posted March 28, 2006 12:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sweetlibra     Edit/Delete Message
AppleLove

I was also confused by a sag whose words said friendship and actions said love.
May be he is playing safe. have you read "emotional Vampaires" thread by HD here?

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Love
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posted March 28, 2006 03:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Love     Edit/Delete Message
THIS IS NOT A SLAM ON MEN HERE BUT:

many (NOT ALL) men grow up in a society that feeds them subconscious ideas about who they should be and how they should feel (or not feel) and so sometimes regardless of a man's astrology he might have issues with expressing his feelings. So many men do (and I know many women do as well but I believe that is more inherent in men for many reasons) and so that could be the reason.

I am a Cancer and I was with a Cancer man for 7 years. In the beginning he was very emotionally repressed but after years of knowing it was okay to express himself he finally felt comfortable to do so. Not that I would suggest ever waiting around for years like I did (I was a lot younger and not as wise) but I think that there are many cases of men with a discomfort of feeling which is too bad.


Having said all that, I'm sorry you are so heartbroken. The amazing thing is that you can look back and have no regrets about not giving your love freely...b/c that's the thing most people will regret in the end.


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Gooberzlostlovefound
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posted March 28, 2006 04:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gooberzlostlovefound     Edit/Delete Message
AppleLove~

Am so, so sorry.

Wishing you all the love and healing light on the planet

Sometimes I get so cynical about men/love/relationships...and I'm only 19.

It seems like so many males are afraid of feeling anything too powerful/intense. So they hide...only to later realize they lost an AMAZING woman. And often try to get her back after realizing their mistake. By then, many women have moved on and want nothing to do with this person. Both parties go through so much pain..but at different times, maybe? I think with men, sometimes they can push it away for a while, but eventually, it comes back and starts gnawing at them. Just a guess, though, from some of my own experiences. (I'm far from being an expert).

Take extra good care of yourself in the next few days, okay? Stop back in and let us know how you're doing. I'm so, so sorry to hear that your heart has been through so much. You seem like such a lovely, intelligent, ultra-caring person. I think you will definitely find the right person who loves and appreciates you.

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victoriasgirl1
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posted March 28, 2006 09:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for victoriasgirl1     Edit/Delete Message
Applelove, I feel your pain, hon, I do. I'm a Cancer female & everytime I see a Cancer male, I run for the hills! I have read and can testify to them being one of the biggest players. They're not above playing on a woman's feelings. I too have succumbed to the charm's of the "wonderboys of the world"-they seem tender & caring, but then you find out they have their own secret, hidden agenda. I got some of the most wonderful advice in this forum by some really kind & compassionate people, you're in good company. It all rings true. Good Luck to you sweetie and don't lose hope!

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AppleLove
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posted March 28, 2006 11:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AppleLove     Edit/Delete Message
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posted March 28, 2006 10:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Blue M     Edit/Delete Message
AppleLove,

This is a post I sent a couple of years ago that may help you understand the complexities of Cancer Males. I thought the exact same thing that you did, that he was not acting as lovable and cuddly and needy as the characteristics of his sign.

As a matter of fact he was downright cold and seemed to have forgotten me just as easily as he met me.

But I am over him and truly happy dating.

I just want you to know you will get over him and meet many more suitable men with whom you are compatible with and you can be able to choose who you want to be with.
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum10/HTML/000684.html

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posted March 30, 2006 06:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for purple_scorp     Edit/Delete Message
Hi AppleLove,

Love and light to you. (((((AppleLove)))))

Tis nothing I could say that would mend your broken heart, only time and reflection will help you move on. But please know we are here for you. For sometimes just expressing how you feel is a weight lifted off your shoulders.

You will go through a range of emotions working your way through your pain. Just try to remember that in order to grow we need to experience a variety of things, and love is but one of them.

You know, I was just thinking today that hearts can break at any age. That's the great thing about love, it can happen at any time, to anybody, at any age.

But love is a risk. It's about two people coming together, and taking a leap of faith. Sometimes, one person takes a bigger leap than the other. Sometimes, one person takes the leap while the other one stays on the safety of the cliff.

I know it's hard but you should celebrate the fact that you took that leap. To put yoursElf out there, and risk being hurt is a big, big thing. Wow, how much you will grow through this experience.

I think it's true what they say....it's better to have loved and lost than not loved at all. Ask yoursElf, would you have changed anything if you had your time again? Our love experiences (and life experiences for that matter) all play a part in making us the people that we are. I know it's cold comfort when you feel your heart has been ripped out and stomped on, but......you gave yoursElf permission to love, and to exhibit that love to another human being. That is the greatest gift that you can bestow on another person.

Hold your head up high, and be gentle to yoursElf. You are love. You are strong, and not afraid to express that love. How lovely to know such a person. One day, you will look back on this experience with no pain.

with love
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fayte.m
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posted March 30, 2006 08:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for fayte.m     Edit/Delete Message
I am very happy with my husband, my soulmate, my beloved, my mental and spiritual equal.
His intensity and depth of emotion matches and compliments mine. I love that about our relationship!
The Cancer male often adores the company of women. My husband has the women friends...I have the male friends. We share the friends but he is more comfortable with the women. I with the men.
I am Scorpio. So perhaps that is one reason we get along so perfectly.
Ok....
If a Cancer male acts moody:
Do not take it personal...unless you DID DO something to cause it.
If you are innocent..back off...do not needle him. When he is ready you will get all the details about what is upsetting him.
He needs to talk about it. But in his own time. The moodiness is part of his pondering over whatever it was/is...working it through over and over in his mind.
Or...
as I have heard MANY Cancerians say:
"Just because I am moody does not mean you are not irritating".
Do not nag a Cancer male. Let him know that when he is ready to talk about it...you will be there. Then DROP it immediately! If the mood persists for more than a several hours....then say it again...gently but firmly...
Then back off again. Do not get sucked into his mood.
A little note or card at that point can sometimes help...that simply says.."I am here if you want to talk"...or "I care".....
And chocolate. Most love good chocolate.
Another thing.
Are you sure your Cancerian is straight? Not Gay? He sounds Gay or closet to me. Or young and not ready for a full romantic intimate relationship. Or has he been hurt in a previous one? Cancer males can be very spiritually advanced as friends...even at very young ages. But often must be 30ish
or older to take the next step.
Cancer Males also seem to do better with a woman 5 or more years older. 10 to 30 years older(the woman) are where I have seen things work out for the best.
Younger women(than them) often irritate the Cancerian male.
They also hate the double standard. The traditional attitude that men MUST woo and court the women.
They want a woman to court them.
But alot of women do not want that. They feel if he really cared, he would romance them first. Well ladies...you will have a long wait. He needs to know he is not being presumptuous and that you REALLY want him.
What may appear as cold, insensitive, aloof, snobbery, even sarcastic behavior...are not always the case. If he has shown you any interest..he IS interested. It is up to you to Romance him. Let him know that you still want to be his friend if Romance and intimacy is not what he wants. Funny thing is..after that point...you may well find HIM suddenly Romancing YOU back!
Oh God! That point is amazingly wonderful!
But you must make the first moves...sincerely. No head games or jealous plays for attention. No threats or ultimations or pressure. Be calm but friendly, sincere, honest, firm, gentle.
State how you feel and give him the option that if he wants to just be friends...that it is cool by you. Friendships often do turn into a deeply comitted love.


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celticfyre
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posted March 31, 2006 11:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for celticfyre     Edit/Delete Message
Fayte I need you advice on what to do now with my Crab I have no idea how to approach him when he does decide he wants to talk or if I should approach him. I want to salvage soemthing of a relationship as I just have to in order to restore peace and harmony to our little fire staion onthe lake. don't mean to hijack this thread--- you can reply to mine for Scoprio Woman /Cancer man. I saw your reply to here as applicable to my situation. Thanks

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fayte.m
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posted March 31, 2006 11:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for fayte.m     Edit/Delete Message
celticfyre
I will try to help.
Ask me whatever you want. I have not been folowing the other thread so not sure exactly what is what at This time...but will continue over there as you asked.

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AppleLove
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posted March 31, 2006 04:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AppleLove     Edit/Delete Message
Fate thank you very much for your reply. can I email you personally? My email address is nhayssen@sonic.net

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fayte.m
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posted March 31, 2006 07:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fayte.m     Edit/Delete Message
Just mailed you. Keep my e-mail private please.

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fayte.m
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posted April 01, 2006 08:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for fayte.m     Edit/Delete Message
I think this test on addicted to love...obsessive love....could reveal where one's expectations are in matters of love, or what they hope is love.

TAKE THIS TEST!
READ THE ENTIRE THREAD!
Very revealling!
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum7/HTML/006312.html

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~I intend to continue learning forever~"Fayte"
~I am still learning~ Michangelo
The Door to Gnosis is never permanently locked...one only needs the correct keys and passwords.
The pious man with closed eyes can often hold more ego than a proud man with open eyes.
Out of the mouth of babes commeth wisdom that can rival that of sages.
In the rough, or cut and polished..a diamond is still a precious gem.
-NEXUS-

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posted April 01, 2006 02:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AppleLove     Edit/Delete Message
Purple_Scorp: You really put a smile on my face and inspired me. I loved your words on 'love'. You are much appreciated. Thank You. P.S. "Sometimes, one person takes the leap while the other one stays on the safety of the cliff." Great line- made me laugh many times over. It seems like a giant cliff- the risk and journey of love.

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fayte.m
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posted April 02, 2006 11:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for fayte.m     Edit/Delete Message
AppleLove
So do you feel less harsh and sad towards Mr.Cancerian now?
I hope so.


This advice is for ANYONE who thinks Cancerians are too moody or cold.
Many times the Cancerian is misunderstood because his extreme caution and slow going, makes many folks think he does not care.
Not true!
It usually has more to do with him and his readiness than whether he is interested or not in you.

He must be ready.

Do not rush a Cancerian.

Do not try to make him feel guilty for not being ready.

Do not assume he is cold.

Take a look back at your expectations.
If you want a man who will just jump right in without thinking....telling you all the lovely things you want to hear...
and expect that from Mr.Cancer.
You might as well give up....
unless you are willing to back up and slow down...
give him time.
If he cannot be your friend...and you his....

To wait and see what evolves...

then find someone more inclined to snap and quick descisions in Romance and love.
Because if that is what you need...

Then Mr.Cancerian is not or you.

If you must have it all now...and cannot be friends first, and have patience...he will think you too shallow and Too NEEDY....that you are selfishly thinkng only of what you want, desire and need...not giving him a chance to move at his own speed.

He waits until he KNOWS for sure.
And is ready in other aspects of his life too...like his job, etcetera.
"Good things come to those who wait"
He believes that...especially in matters as SERIOUS as love.

I personally feel it is/was worth the wait.


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~I intend to continue learning forever~"Fayte"
~I am still learning~ Michangelo
The Door to Gnosis is never permanently locked...one only needs the correct keys and passwords.
The pious man with closed eyes can often hold more ego than a proud man with open eyes.
Out of the mouth of babes commeth wisdom that can rival that of sages.
In the rough, or cut and polished..a diamond is still a precious gem.
-NEXUS-

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fayte.m
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posted April 02, 2006 09:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fayte.m     Edit/Delete Message
AppleLove
Now YOU must decide if he is worth it for you to at least try a little longer to win his "Open hearted" Love.
I wish you so very much love and luck in this!
If you want me to give you more feedback Just let me know.
Blessings upon you dear AppleLove

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~I intend to continue learning forever~"Fayte"
~I am still learning~ Michangelo
The Door to Gnosis is never permanently locked...one only needs the correct keys and passwords.
The pious man with closed eyes can often hold more ego than a proud man with open eyes.
Out of the mouth of babes commeth wisdom that can rival that of sages.
In the rough, or cut and polished..a diamond is still a precious gem.
-NEXUS-

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AppleLove
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posted August 11, 2006 05:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AppleLove     Edit/Delete Message
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posted August 11, 2006 09:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fayte.m     Edit/Delete Message

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Age is a State of Mind. Change Your Mind!
~I intend to continue learning forever~Enigma
~I am still learning~ Michangelo
The Door to Gnosis is never permanently locked...one only needs the correct keys and passwords.~Enigma
The pious man with closed eyes can often hold more ego than a proud man with open eyes.~NEXUS
Out of the mouth of babes commeth wisdom that can rival that of sages.~Enigma
In the rough, or cut and polished..a diamond is still a precious gem.
-NEXUS-

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Gooberzlostlovefound
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posted August 12, 2006 12:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gooberzlostlovefound     Edit/Delete Message
Waiting to hear all the details...

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sthenri
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posted August 12, 2006 10:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sthenri     Edit/Delete Message
I have to agree that I find Cancer men not exactly warm or cuddly either. Usually Cancer men expect the woman to chase him, woo him, hang on his every word, never be moody herself and be open to everything he thinks and feels. When he chooses to express it. Money does not flow freely, and women are all around. Forget having a male friend ever.

Plus there is a puritanical side to Cancer males that always makes me feel silly.

Okay anyone know a Cancer male that ever proposed marriage? Seems I had to practically beg my Cancer male to see me and when he did he was happy that i was "his".

They are very energetic and like children, very sweet that way. But the grudges. No kiss when expected and then no coffee in the morning. No hugs for days.

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