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AcousticGod
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posted April 24, 2006 01:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message
Is it a good idea or a bad idea?

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pixelpixie
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posted April 24, 2006 02:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pixelpixie     Edit/Delete Message
Weeeeeeeeeelll.. our astrologically trained brains will seek out possibilities.. but it is like any other tool we use when relating to others.. potentialities... psychology, attractiveness, manners, past....

It is all a collective.

You might interact with her and she poos on your plans, and you'd think "That's her Saturn squaring my Sun" Rather than.. Geez, she really got up on the wrong side of the bed today."

All an assessment tool.

That being said... I try to resist, as it colours the way I see things.. but I mean, that's not even accurate, as I generally weasel their Sun sign , as Astrology comes up quite frequently in my interactions anyway.

So, basically... I don't know what I am talking about, so hopefully another will come on in and give their opinion.
My Libra Mercury is throwing too many factors in.

But hey, everything happens for a reason, and so if you already know stuff, so be it, it will evolve.
Try to be objective... ( when are we ever? but then that's a spiralling spiritual question)

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ariestiger
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posted April 24, 2006 03:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ariestiger     Edit/Delete Message
Errm...what's the point of checking the charts, really? Life's too short.

My husband and I had a composite 5th house - but I only found that out several years AFTER our marriage.

At the end of the day your own gut feelings are more important than being *told what to feel*, in whatever subliminal way, from extraneous sources.

And I tend not to attract Cancer men (he, he) anyway.

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mysticaldream
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posted April 24, 2006 08:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mysticaldream     Edit/Delete Message
Absolutely! Why have knowledge if you don't use it? Probably people with a lot of air (like myself) are most prone to.

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hippichick
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posted April 24, 2006 08:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hippichick     Edit/Delete Message
I do not, but I like to know the sun sign early on to know the general energy that I am dealing with.

If things progress, then I try to find a little more as as far as human relations are concerned in general, Astrology is a great tool for psycho analysis and can be very helpful in understanding behavior in dating and in general.

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CapGirl
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posted April 24, 2006 08:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for CapGirl     Edit/Delete Message
I do... I slowly reveal that I'm into astrology and if they're receptive to the concept of that, I weasel their birth place and time (trickier) out of them! I will get the birthdate, regardless, so that's a given. Even just the sunsign will bias me sometimes, like if the guy is an Aries or Gemini, I'd have my guard up bc. I know I would not tend to get along w/ these.

I have run synastry on past love interests to see if it supported what I felt w/ the person, and it always seems to, especially the mars-venus contacts and lack thereof.

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Lialei
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posted April 24, 2006 09:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lialei     Edit/Delete Message
Yes. It's entirely too tempting.

But, I keep in mind that what I think something may mean, will mostly likely in the end mean something very different then what I originally thought and more often reveals stuff I hadn't considered at the time.
Looking at a past relationship chart when in a more objective frame of mind,with more distance is helpful in realizing this.
Life most often takes us by suprise, especially if we think we know anything.
Especially then.

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1scorp
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posted April 24, 2006 10:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 1scorp     Edit/Delete Message
Nope. To be honest, I'd rather stay away from it... unless you can keep an objective view.
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posted April 24, 2006 12:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mirandee     Edit/Delete Message
I think that when it comes to relationships, attractions and love we just have to let it be and take it's natural course.

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Happy Dragon
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posted April 24, 2006 12:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Happy Dragon     Edit/Delete Message
re: * Do you check the charts when starting a possible relationship? *
nope .. first i check my head .. then my wallet .. then my heart to see that it ain't wearing rose tinted glasses .. .. .. If i were to look at the charts initialy .. it would be blatant curiosity to see if my gut feelings checked out via the synastry .. astro curiosity .. .. however if troubles arose then i would look into what's what in the astrolgy setup .. simply in order to understand the astro energies that the other person is having to deal with ..

as Pixelz said : ** You might interact with her and she poos on your plans, and you'd think "That's her Saturn squaring my Sun" Rather than.. Geez, she really got up on the wrong side of the bed today." **

I certainly wouldn't make any assumptions based on astrology ..
nor would i be put off if the other person as just about to have a run of difficult transits .. if one falls in love .. that's it .. for the good times and the bad times .. hand in hand ..

.. i just go with my inbuilt radar - gut feelings ..
.. as Aries Tiger said .. *Life's too short.*

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AcousticGod
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posted April 24, 2006 12:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message
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first i check my head .. then my wallet .. then my heart to see that it ain't wearing rose tinted glasses

Nice!

I welcome everyone to keep responding, but I will say that I have a hard time keeping my curiosity in check, so I did look at the charts, so I am tainted. Gemini Rising [is] ever-curious, and, unfortunately, always looking for an out when it comes to relationships. I think I'll still see if there's something there or not. It's not every day I get picked up on by a Pisces (I blame Jupiter conjuncting my Sun/Moon midpoint).

Why can't someone with perfect synastry come find me? You know a VERY late degree Virgo with an early Cap Moon (double Soul Mate contacts through Sun/Moon conjunctions)

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1scorp
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posted April 24, 2006 02:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 1scorp     Edit/Delete Message
A pisces? That's exactly what you were hoping for, right?

Good luck

HD: I try to remember those rules. I just always go temporarily stupid and throw caution to the wind. Eeeesshh

Ahhh.. hell with it... I'll never learn.
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Happy Dragon
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posted April 24, 2006 02:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Happy Dragon     Edit/Delete Message
AG .. my radar has tuned in to a new face in the neighbourhood .. it's that curiosity again .. Gem Moon Mars and Jupt. .. carefuly masked .. if neccessary .. by a Cancer Asc. Instincts say she has Cap and or possibly Taur in the chart .. she wears no make up at all .. it's sort of odd as i'm willing to put money on the fact that most guys her age ( at a guess late 30's early 40's ) would find her features 'plain' or even 'unattractive' .. i see something else .. as in .. very attractive in an odd sort of way .. .. come to think of it i'd also put money on urns. the 'electric one' .. featuring in her chart ...

curiosity .. brought about by an upsurge in blood pressure .. ;;-)) .. she hardly speaks a word of english .. may have to adjust radar set accordingly .. .. it's silly .. but i feel it's a duty towards 'curiosity' to suss the synastry ..
must watch my step though .. keep my distance .. i think her relatives carry knives ..
If i were a cat .. i'd be dead by now ..
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*Why can't someone with perfect synastry come find me?*
ain't no such thing .. and if her synastry were to be perfect ..
you'd probably find trouble with the mother-in-law .. or her pet snake ..

i've got an odd feeling this current uranus transit on my merc. .. is going to backfire on me somehow .. just a niggly feeling .. ain't backfiring on the musical level .. that's for sure ..
which reminds me ag .. you fancy a percussion loop to mess with? .. about 12 meg in wav format .. some friends gave me a cd of their percussion group performance (all trad instruments) and i took bits out of it and got them to loop .. .. wasn't easy considering the nature of the rythmns .. .. came out a bit 'manic' in parts ..

1Scorp
* I just always go temporarily stupid and throw caution to the wind.*
.. yeah me to .. when all's said and done ..
probably a tad more cautious these days .. but just as 'choosy' as usual ..
i like the temporary stupidity bit .. we all need that once in a while .. as a reminder ..

btw .. i'm thinking of posting a bit more gtr stuff on that f.f.a. thread ..
is anyone using that info ??
just curious is all ..
.. 'lllllater ..

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pidaua
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posted April 24, 2006 02:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message
Nope... I check my heart first and see how we get along.

Then as the relationship progresses I like to look at their individual chart. I will let them know I am doing it and share the information with them. If they balk at it, then I pretty much know they aren't someone that I can spend time with anyway and nothing progresses. Basically, if they can't accept that I like astrology or if they ridicule it, they will also ridicule my belief in American Indian metaphysics / shamanism. I need someone that is open minded.

That is not to say that I haven't met people that "pretend" they care about astrology (my ex did this and once we had comitted to each other, then he decided he thought it was a bunch of bullcrap).

In any case, after the initial stage of looking at his chart, then I move to synastry / composites - again, sharing with the person and only doing so to identify our potential problems and solutions.

I don't shove it on the person, and instead I try to use it as a tool to open other dialogues about our personal natures.

I do love how synastry works though and will observe it in action. The trick is to not let it rule. Happy Dragon is right, instead of attributing all things as absolutes, such as "Well, we are not agreeing on religion because he has Jupiter square Saturn". Instead look at where potential hang up may occur and LET THINGS PLAY OUT.


Oddly enough, the charts of my ex husband and fiance did indicate where we would have numerous problems. My ex-fiance and I had an extremely harsh aspect between my moon and his pluto and his moon and my pluto. That was just the beginning...LOL...

I like the motto 'all things in moderation'

It is a shame when we do things to death and let them take over our lives. I find this to be the case with any dicipline and also on smaller scales when we disagree with people.

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posted April 24, 2006 02:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message
Yeah, a Pisces is supposed to be a strong candidate for a Capricorn.

Believe it or not, though, I also think about things like Chinese Astrology when I think about stuff like this. I don't have any concrete answers, but I'm wondering if the four year chinese compatibility thing might correlate somehow to more favorable tradional astrological placements. So far the only evidence I have is that the best synastry I have with anyone is with PixelPixie who happens to also fit within the four year chinese cycle of compatibility. This Pisces is 8 years and 2 months away (god am I old?), a rooster.

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posted April 24, 2006 02:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message
Will answer the rest later.

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pidaua
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posted April 24, 2006 06:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message
Ha Ha... AG, I am a rooster as well (Earth Rooster) and my guy is a Ox (Water or Earth Ox)

We are supposed to get along famously ( was previously married to a Snake - the other compatible sign- but he was also a Virgo with a Gemini Moon)

The Ox just so happens to also be a Leo Sun / Pisces moon / Merc in Leo.

The common theme of our composite chart is gobs and gobs of fun communication (this is also dominant in our synastry charts). Most of our aspects are compatible, but we have a few stressful ones of course LOL...

Don't know what I'd do if my Pluto didn't clash with someone's personal planets LOL... My Pluto conjuncts his Venus I have pluto square venus in my own chart.


I think it is the sum of the whole as well as a major amount of gut instinct

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pixelpixie
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posted April 24, 2006 11:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pixelpixie     Edit/Delete Message
I love having perfect synastry with you..
I feel, like.. honoured or something....
Like I'm part of an exclusive synastry club... and all I had to do was be born!

We do get along though. I always agree with your posts, even if they do not involve me.... and have similar tastes in movies etc... and I know if we knew each other in the flesh, we'd be close for sure.

I'm a Dragon, what're you?

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posted April 25, 2006 09:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 1scorp     Edit/Delete Message
What are some good chinese astro sites?

I don't really know much about it.

I'm a horse. That just doesn't sound as attractive as a Rooster, Dragon, etc.
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posted April 25, 2006 10:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pixelpixie     Edit/Delete Message
A majestic stallion!!!!
A C0ck.
a dragon...
they all sound good to me.

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posted April 25, 2006 11:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Swerve     Edit/Delete Message
Yes, I usually obsess about this and make the mistake of providing the info to them like its a great conversational piece, which at the start it is.

But then when I drop little lines in appropriate places that show I might be equating them to that they get a bit miffed.

I really try not to, but it always explains why all my relationships end so badly, or never actually begin properly in the first place and is usually accurate, or at least a bloody handy scapegoat. Bloody superficial Gemini Moons...etc

A connection between these facts? Nahhhhhh......


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mysticaldream
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posted April 25, 2006 11:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mysticaldream     Edit/Delete Message
Well, AG, I don't know a late Virgo with a Capricorn moon but I do have a friend who is a Sagittarius with a Capricorn moon; she's available. LOL

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posted April 25, 2006 01:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Happy Dragon     Edit/Delete Message
1Scorp ..

I think "horse" equates to "gemini" .. "snake" to "taurus" .. and i forget the rest ..

* http://chinese.astrology.com/ *
* http://www.chineseastrology.com/ *
* http://www.c-c-c.org/chineseculture/zodiac/zodiac.html *
* http://www.rainfall.com/horoscop/chinese.htm *
* http://www.astro-fengshui.com/ *
* http://www.horoscope.co.uk/ *
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posted April 25, 2006 02:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Azalaksh     Edit/Delete Message
pixie ~

HD ~ Monsieur Snake must be shared

Here's a list of the years and elements and yin/yang.....


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purple_scorp
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posted April 26, 2006 12:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for purple_scorp     Edit/Delete Message
Hmm,

What, don't you all have key selection criteria for your prospective partners????

My top three criteria are:
1. must be compatible astrological sign
2. must have sideburns
3. must have sexual chemistry

Right, well that could explain why I'm currently single.

Okay, so that was partly a joke but I must confess that I do usually lexigram their name. And if my first name is in their name, they get bonus points.

Lalalala, is it getting warm in here?

with love
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