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scorpluv
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posted July 13, 2006 04:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for scorpluv     Edit/Delete Message
By the way, I'm sorry about your sister's heartbreak... the first one is always rough... it actually doesn't surprise though, so much confusion going on in the cosmos, anything can happen... She'll be ok though, and if not, I think big sis is going to have to kick some booty in Ohio...

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BlScorp1104
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posted July 13, 2006 06:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlScorp1104     Edit/Delete Message
THANKS so much for all of the advice, Scorpluv, I have gone through the same things and have been equally frustrated with my Cap man. I guess I always saw it as a game, and I HATE games, although I could never quit playing it-ironically. I like men to be straightforward and honest, and yes, he is in many other ways, just not with his feelings for me, and I understand why. I met him four years ago too, but have had a few more complications in my story. I just felt more will-power in me when you gave those Capricorn rules. They make perfect sense,and I KNOW you know what you are talking about. It is just that my feelings for him are so strong, unlike anything I have ever experienced and the "letting go" part is the hard part. You know, when you care about them so deeply that you want to call him and see how his day is, to cheer him up if he's down, etc. Now, I have realized that if I want him in the end, then I HAVE to be patient, which he has always hinted to me that I am so **** stubborn and impatient, but yet, he still wants to talk to me too. So,,, anyways thanks for sharing your words of wisdom, BlScorp1104

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BlScorp1104
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posted July 13, 2006 06:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlScorp1104     Edit/Delete Message
Thank you Scorpluv for your Cappy rules and words of wisdom, I have realized that if I want him in the end, then I HAVE to be patient. He has always told me that I am a **** stubborn and impatient woman, but yet, he still wants to talk to me and hear my voice. we are in a weird situation, but I can honestly say that he is my perfect match and I have never had feelings for any other man this strong in my life. That is why it is hard to play these little cat and mouse games. At first, I thought he was playing games with me, and I like men to be honest and straightforward- which he is about everything else, just not his feelings about me. (He has been deeply, deeply hurt by a woman, he was married to about four years ago)I met him while they were in the middle of their divorce.So,,,,, I know it may take him longer than other Cappys, But still- that's fine, I have many goals and ambitions that I want to achieve to keep myself busy in the meantime. I just wanted to say a special thanks for your advice, it kind of made that scorp will-power and strength fire up in me for a minuete and even reassure me that I have control in my life over anything, BlScorp1104

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CrankyCap
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posted July 13, 2006 07:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CrankyCap     Edit/Delete Message
LMAO...Oh heck yeah!!! I'm right there with your Cap guy! Those eyes are tricky! When he gave me that look it just put me through an emotional roller coaster! Part of me was angry, part of me wanted to cry, and surprisingly to me, what I wanted to do most was take him outside and tear his clothes off!!! LOL...that's too hilarious!

You're right about leaving him be once he's said his peace, but I may have some trouble with that. In the middle of this bout, while he was still seething, I wanted to keep talking it out and he told me he didn't want to talk about it anymore, but that just drives me crazy! Maybe it's the fire placements in me, but I'd rather have a screaming match than sit in silence. So I kept picking at him...probably not the best idea!

Well, this could get a little long winded, so I hope you don't mind reading a little...lol.

Unfortunately for me, Mr. Scorp works horrific hours, like 75-80 per week (stellium in the 6th). So, I don't get to see him but maybe twice a week. I hate it, but being a Cap I guess makes me understanding in that respect. I know that if we saw eachother more frequently I'd be up for going out more, but since we don't I get a little selfish and want him all to myself. Well, when last Friday night rolled around I was in a bit of a "cranky cappy" mood, just tired and not really feeling all that social. We already had plans to get together, and I was ready to just spend the evening with him taking it easy on the couch. He left me a voicemail saying that some of the people he worked with were going out for some drinks after work and asked if I wanted to go. I was really not in the mood, but he sounded excited about it so I didn't say anything, although he could tell I wasn't in the best mood.

Now, for a little "history" on this, the first time I met some of his co-workers I got a rather chilly reception. A couple of them were real nice but the majority didn't seem open to talking to me at all. So, I was already in a crappy mood, and having to go there knowing that I may feel uncomfortable around these people didn't help. I figured I'd call my best friend (a sunny Leo) and see if she'd want to meet me up there. I thought I'd feel more comfortable if I had someone sort of from my home court to talk to, and if he wanted to mingle with his friends I could hang with her instead of just sitting there. I hate coming off as an "ice queen bit*h," or like the girlfriend from hell that won't let him talk to his friends, but since none of them were all that friendly I didn't want to take the risk. My girlfriend had a first date that night with a new guy, but she said she'd see if he'd want to come up there for a drink.

I felt really nervous when I got to the bar and generally uncomfortable. Mr. Scorp knew it of course and kept asking me what was up. I didn't want to spill out my insecurities, so I gave the stock female answer of "nothing...just tired." No one was really making an effort to talk to me other than him.

When my girlfriend and her date arrived, I was instantly relieved and greeted her with a big hug. The two of them sat down at a table behind us. Mr. Scorp immediately picked up on my instant mood change, and commented on it. He asked why I got in such a better mood the second she walked in. I told him I'd be honest with him, and I told him exactly why I'd been acting strange earlier, and why I had invited her. He was ****** . He was furious that I hadn't just told him this on the phone before so that we could have just stayed in. He was ****** because he didn't understand why I lit up so much when she walked in but I wasn't that "elated" when I saw him. Then he said that I had been "cold" to everyone there since I had arrived and hadn't even looked anyone in the eye. This ****** me off. He has ALWAYS told me that he would be my strongest ally, and would always be loyal to me even if he thought I was dead wrong about something. So, when he said that I thought he was going against me. I explained to him that the last time we had gone out with these people, only two of them made any effort to talk to me, and that made me put my guard up this time. He knew this, because it had ****** him off before that they had all given me the cold shoulder. I told him that I guess I hadn't proved myself to him as he was showing more "loyalty" to them and acting as if I was the one who was unfriendly. That was it. That did it. That's when I got "the look." The argument escalated from there, and he got worse before he got better. My girlfriend could detect that we were fighting, so before she and her date left the bar she came up to us and tried to make some jokes and lighten up the situation (gotta love leos). That helped a little and we talked it out after that. Once we had it sorted out though, he gave me that look again, and said the last thing he was going to say about. "Don't you EVER, EVER, question my loyalty again." I could see in his eyes that he absolutely meant it, so I definitely won't! LOL...So yeah, we salvaged the night and all was well. I felt so guilty about it the next day though. He had told me he could give a sh*t about hanging out with the people from work, and all he really cared about was spending time with me, which is why he wished I would have just told him everything in the first place. It's these damn dark Cap moods I tell ya! God love him though, he actually put a positive spin on it. He said at least we know we have a healthy relationship. It's good to fight now and then.

I do have a funny story for ya though. I've been telling all the girls I know about it b/c I just think it's too damn funny. Last week was my "monthly visitor" time. I was on the phone with Mr. Scorp and told him I didn't feel well. He asked what was wrong, and I just said well, guess what happened today? Typical man it took him a minute. He was trying to be funny and started pulling things out of his ass. "Chinese Christmas?" he asked. I laughed and said no, but that's what I'm calling it from now on! I love it, and it works so well! If you're at work and you're out of supplies, you can just yell to the girl next to you, "Hey, I'm celebrating Chinese Christmas! Do you have any ornaments to spare?" It's great...and much better than any of the other terms we have to use! Sounds so festive!

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CapGirl
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posted July 14, 2006 09:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for CapGirl     Edit/Delete Message
Hey three Scorp. girls and Crank,

I'm okay, just lurking... I've got a Scorpio, and Leo whom I'm talking to off the dating site. It's just so hard to get motivated to meet someone new. I wish the Cap. would've given me a rejection, an ending, which would make this easier to get over. These guys do come off as cold-hearted bas-turds to be the recipient of a love letter like the one I wrote and then never hear from him again. I'm wallowing in self-pity.

And I can't even blame it on Chinese Christmas!!?

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CrankyCap
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posted July 14, 2006 09:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for CrankyCap     Edit/Delete Message
LOL...Awww, I'm sorry to hear that you're still bummed about the Cap. It always amazes me how some people can just dust off and move on from one relationship to the next without hurt. I could never do that...it takes me a very long time to get over someone, so don't feel bad that it still hurts. You're entitled to grieve for a while. It's good that you're getting out there and talking to other people, but nothing will work until you've fully healed from the last guy. It took me a while to learn that lesson. Still though, go out and have fun and spend a lot of time with your friends and the people who love you most. That always helps me.

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CrankyCap
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posted July 14, 2006 10:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for CrankyCap     Edit/Delete Message
By the way CapGirl, I agree with you that the Cap should have just given you a straight rejection in the first place if that's what he was going to do. I think being the persistent, tenacious signs that we are sometimes you really need to pack a punch to get us to back off if that's what you want. I'm sure you'd respect him more if he did that too. He took the cowardly way out.

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CapGirl
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posted July 14, 2006 11:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for CapGirl     Edit/Delete Message
Yep, good advice, I figure I'll just shoot for getting to LaborDay with no more contact, and I may be home free to be over this.

Trying to have a busy summer!

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CapGirl
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posted July 14, 2006 11:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for CapGirl     Edit/Delete Message
Gosh that "dude" guy is hilarious... he just makes you crack up and have to laugh!!

LOL

Where's ScorpLuv?? I knew a ScorpLuv off another astrology site, but she lived in Cali. and was applying to med schools... She was dealing w/ a Cap. guy though but she had some good common sense and smarts that she wasn't putting up w/ his games or insecurities. I'm rambling...

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CrankyCap
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posted July 14, 2006 11:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for CrankyCap     Edit/Delete Message
Good question...where is scorpluv? She always has such good insight. I just poored my heart out talking about that stupid fight but haven't gotten a response??? Sniff, sniff

Oh well, guess I'll just curl up in the fetal position and suck my thumb for a while.

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CapGirl
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posted July 14, 2006 04:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CapGirl     Edit/Delete Message
That was a funny visual, Crank!

I'm glad it's the weeeeeekend!

I like these little fun faces!!

I need to get some sun!

So... what's your other sign placements, Crank? (venus/mars/moon/asc) I'm Cap/Pisces/Sag./Cancer.


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CrankyCap
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posted July 14, 2006 04:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CrankyCap     Edit/Delete Message
Me too!!! 40 minutes til take off! Glad you liked that...my Scorp tells me that all the time. You know you're really into someone when you start picking up their mannerisms/sayings.

Well, here are my major placements:
asc - Leo
moon - Pis
merc - Sag
venus - Scorp
mars - Cap (conjunct Sun)

I'm actually in a bit of a state of confusion at the moment. Since I've joined this site I've become more and more interested in really researching the meaning of everything. One thing that doesn't make much sense...my total and complete fear of confrontation! I don't understand it. What's even more strange, is that I fear confrontation with other women more than men. I'm ok with it in intimate relationships, but I can't even speak my mind when a girlfriend irritates me. I know a HUGE part of it has to be the Pisces moon, but you would think that a powerful Sun/Mars conjunction in Cap would help combat that tremendously wouldn't you? And why only women? (Sigh)...I can't figure it out!

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AcousticGod
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posted July 14, 2006 04:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message
Probably a blessing in disguise.

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CapGirl
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posted July 14, 2006 04:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CapGirl     Edit/Delete Message
Hmmm... I'm rather the same way, in general, do not like confrontation, and if I have to do it, I'll do it by email or in writing if I can. Have you run your birth/natal chart on cafeastrology.com? They provide a really good lengthy one, particularly if you use your birth-time.

AG is doing this ...


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CrankyCap
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posted July 16, 2006 08:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CrankyCap     Edit/Delete Message
LOL...Yeah, I was wondering when and if he'd pop up in this thread! I figured he could give us some wise insight considering he's a Cap male and that's really what this thread has been about!

Maybe you're right AG, but I don't know. Sometimes I know I should be standing up for myself but I just can't. Guess that's something I'll have to work on overcoming.

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scorpluv
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posted July 17, 2006 11:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for scorpluv     Edit/Delete Message
Sorry girlz...

I was off on Friday and had a pretty hectic weekend... I went to a wedding w/Cappy, one of his really good friends... it was WONDERFUL!!! We really had a great time together, nothing surprising though, we always have a good time together... I don't sign on much during the weekend so I apologize for my delayed responses. BScorp1104, just be patient but remember not to put up w/the crap... lol

CrankyCap, HILARIOUS!!! Ur Scorp sounds like ever the smartass... lol I think ill be adapting that new phrase "Chinese Christmas" Luv it... Corny but funny... thats usually a Scorp's humor anyway... lol About your fight... WOW... I know that was a interesting to say the least... lol Sounds like a typical Scorp/Cap fight... Usually about the feelings... lol Both tend to be so cautious about hurting the others feelings not realizing that we hurt eachother more when we don't talk about our feelings... especially if it has to do w/issues of security... lol But in typical Scorp/Cap fashion, you worked out your differences... Like I said, we never stay mad at eachother long... I'm just glad your sticking w/eachother... Actually I was laughing when you mentioned him saying never to question his loyalty... LOL OMG, that is rather funny he said something like that... lol I've said that before to my Cappy... We Scorp's take our loyalty very seriously... Questioning our loyalty is questioning our character, something that should never come into question.... lol

You know guys, the more I speak about these things, the more it all makes sense... It's funny how you learn to take things in stride and grow from them, just bouncing ideas and concepts back and forth can really put things into perspective...

CrankyCap, does a Cappy inviting you to a big event like a wedding have much significance? i mean, they arent the type to invite you to something if u guys are just dating and so forth... When Cappy invited me to the wedding, I was completely taken aback by the invite... Didn't want to read too much into it, but it seems to me as if finally... after many years, we are finally definitive enough about eachother that we want to involve eachother in different things more often... What do you guys think?

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CapGirl
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posted July 17, 2006 11:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for CapGirl     Edit/Delete Message
ScorpLuv~~ yes, I'd say it's of course positive progression... wedding... I'd put more emphasis on it if it were a family member's wedding. Sometimes you just need a date for these things but I'm sure you know the true nature of your relationship and where you stand in taking into account everything else.

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scorpluv
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posted July 17, 2006 11:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for scorpluv     Edit/Delete Message
Definitely... lol That is rather big for Cappy to invite
me to such an event... His friends are just as important as family... besides, family weddings dont happen very often in either one of our families so we both tend to put much emphasis on friends also, sort of an extension of ourselves... lol Hows things coming along for u CapGirl?

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posted July 17, 2006 12:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for scorpluv     Edit/Delete Message
Also, he's very much like me, we really don't need a date for things like that... we tend to be loners anyways, so we're both known to show up to weddings and things like that alone... lol

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CrankyCap
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posted July 17, 2006 12:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CrankyCap     Edit/Delete Message
Welcome back Scorpluv! We missed you! Glad to hear you had a good time at the wedding though! Anything beats being at work.

Yes, I would say that's a HUGE deal. Especially for a Cap male. I think Caps in general put all of their loved ones on a pedestal (friends and family) and are fiercely loyal to those closest to them. By bringing you into his inner circle and basically showing them that you're "part of the group" it shows that he has trust in you and respects you. Big step.

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posted July 17, 2006 01:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for scorpluv     Edit/Delete Message
HEY CRANKYCAP!!! Thanks for showing the love, i can feel it over here... Yea, I figured that was a major thing... Everything turned out well, which i think to a certain degree he was nervous about... We are rather conservative in our associations, personally but we're both the type of people that will not bring just anyone to such an event unless we are proud of that person and they are very special to us as well...

One thing that made me smile was the groom (his friend) thanked us for showing up and made mention that he and his new wife thought I was wonderful and asked that we all hook up again once they've settled... When Cappy told me that he was smiling ear to ear and seemed a bit relieved. As always, I didn't want to read too much into it, but I realized that it made him extremely happy to hear that... lol I don't know what to think of that but it seems to me as if it put his mind at ease... As if he looks at such things as the ultimate compliment, like saying... this is right...

How are you and Scorp coming along? Anything new with you two lovebirds? I love hearing about you two guys... lol

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posted July 17, 2006 02:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CrankyCap     Edit/Delete Message
Awww!!! Thanks SL! I like hearing about you guys too!

Sounds to me like the wedding was a huge success. Glad to hear that. Caps do love compliments, and if his friend complimented you (as in, "You've got a good catch there buddy.") that probably made his day, and definitely raised your worth to him as well.

Right now I'm battling with my Scorp's work schedule. I've seen him a total of 2 1/2 hours in the last week. UGHHH!!! Summer is his busiest season though, so once we make it through this things should be easier. I'm not the most flowery romantic type of girl around, but I find that with him that side of me is coming out more. I went out yesterday and bought a cheesy romantic card to let him know how much I'm missing him, and I've already been cruising around on the internet looking for birthday gift ideas...lol...even though I've still got 3 1/2 months to go! Tonight's a big night though...I'm meeting his mom for the first time. I'm a little nervous about that since he's very close to her. I was running around like a lunatic this morning trying to make sure everything looked ok...had to make sure I pinned my dress so as not to show too much cleavage...LOL. Of course, by the time I get there I'm sure I'll look like hell thanks to this Africa heat! What's worse is my car isn't even air conditioned! OY!!! Thank God I remembered to bring makeup and a brush with me this morning!

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posted July 17, 2006 02:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for scorpluv     Edit/Delete Message
CrankyCap,

Your in there girl... LOL If your meeting his mother for the first time, your definitely in there... Like with Cappy's, if we introduce you to family, your already a big part of his life... We won't introduce a casual acquintance to family, no matter how much we like you... I think we hold off introducing partners to family because family is a big part of our lives... So if he wants you to get to know his family, your definitely more than just a casual acquintance or even someone he's dating, it seems to me as if he is taking you rather seriously... Good for you girl, I think thats wonderful... As far as his work schedule, don't worry about it to much, things will get better. I know there are going to be times when he seems a little wrapped up in his work, but you'll never be too far from his mind, especially if he calls everyday to check in on you...

LOL... I have to laugh when you said you find yourself being more romantic around him... You like him, You like him.... lol (Just teasing) I noticed that when a Cappy likes you, there rarely seen romantic side pops up out of nowhere... Amazing to say the least... I noticed that when Cappy was beginning to really have feelings, he was alot more attentive as far as romance is concerned... lol Believe me, I was in shock... lol

Just remember to be yourself w/your Scorp's mom... I'm sure you will charm the pants off of her.. Cap's usually make excellent first impressions... And believe me, if his mother likes you, OMG, you got more going for you than you know... lol The opinions of family, especially close relatives weighs heavily on our minds, so he definitely wants his mother to like you, it will put his mind at ease. If you get her approval, you will be in his life for a long, long time to come...

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posted July 17, 2006 03:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CrankyCap     Edit/Delete Message
You think so SL? You're probably right. Even though he has reassured me numerous times that I'll get along great with his mom and that I have nothing to worry about, he has also stressed to me that it is EXTREMELY rare that he allows a girl to meet his family this early on - if ever. So, that does add a little pressure. I understand where he's coming from b/c that's how I am with my family too, but it still makes me nervous. I'm already questioning whether or not I should stop home and change first...

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posted July 17, 2006 04:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CapGirl     Edit/Delete Message
Cap, Cranky,

Where's your Cap. confidence, class, and charm? I know you have it all! I must say I have never been intimidated about meeting a mother. You know we Caps. get along with the "elderly" so you've already got that going for you too. Just be yourself and forget about any ideas that you have to "win her over" or whatnot. He already likes you and is with you for his own reasons. Unless you act snotty, snobby, rude, slutty, stupid, obnoxious, you can hardly give her cause to dislike you in one meeting's time.

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