posted December 03, 2006 07:52 PM         

I was being loving and supportive too. That's why I gave her reading in the first place!

good friggin grief!

This had nothing to do with pride.

don't get all preachy with me.

I never even friggen charged for a reading since helping others through astrology since 1999!

It had nothing to do with friggen pride

I did it out of love,compassion,support!

that;s the whole point of me helping people as an astrologer!

"why do you care if it has a lighter/positive note. You're not with the guy any way." - hardly loving and supporting there.

It's the truth. She isn't with the friggen dude. She should be moving on.

When I tell her something about her chart, she acts like saying its all negative. It's like she expects me to say something positive about it.

Some people need to be told things firmly and not be sugarcoating.

It's about helping them face the truth and facts because a lot of people are in denial about things.

btw.....there is such thing as tough love.

posted December 03, 2006 08:00 PM         

I am a little alarmed at what you have just posted however.

posted December 03, 2006 08:05 PM         

I never friggen asked for anybody to help me with my chart

I haven't expected anything in return

so I don't need people trying to get self righteous with me about compassion,love,and support.that makes me very angry!

I have done that by giving free readings and reports since 1999. I have never charged at all.

posted December 03, 2006 09:34 PM         

Please understand the depth and feeling of us Fish people...

Dear Swerve merely connected....

I do it everday......

Sometimes I feel it to be a curse..most days not....

We are what we are...

Terri

posted December 04, 2006 12:34 AM         

When I said "negative", I meant it wasn't based on the kind of intense, poetic feeling that I thought it was. You know how some couples go through a horrible patch and then learn it is part of their karma? Apart from the tensions between the two of us, Thats what I thought we were going through but I've detached myself from the fact that it wasn't like the fairy tale feeling that we were so submerged in. So when I said "negative", it wasn't that I was saying "What the hell Glaucus, why are you telling me all this, tell me it was true love". I already know it wasn't true love, he did me wrong. Glaucus, I didnt think you were in any way judgemental in your readings it's just that Im a sensitive Cancer, so I take everything to heart. Especially after a horrible break-up so pardon the fact that it is like a slap on the face when I am met with reality on this subject. Im still reeling from it. But sometimes, that slap in the face is what I need.

posted December 04, 2006 10:33 AM         

Please understand the depth and feeling of us Fish people..."

OH GIVE ME A FRIGGEN BREAK!

You friggen talk to me like I don't know a damn thing about Pisces.

I am Pisces Moon myself! that's even more Pisces because Moon is the emotions,sensitivity,and feelings and its in the most emotional,sensitive,feeling sign of all.
and it squares the dispositor Neptune with 1'23 orb.

so I feel like a Pisces...twice feel like a Pisces

not to mention....I am mainly water
Sun,Mercury,and Venus are in Scorpio

My Mercury parallel Neptune,and that's similar to Mercury in Pisces

My Venus parallel Neptune,and that's similar to Venus in Pisces

My Mars square Neptune,and that's similar to Mars in Pisces

My Jupiter conjunct Neptune,and that's similar to Jupiter in Pisces

My Saturn oppose Neptune,and that's similar to Saturn in Pisces
I also have Saturn contraparallel Neptune.

So please don't talk to me like I don't understand fish people. I am lunar fish myself!

I know what it's like to be too sensitive,too empathic....I know what it's like to be very misunderstood....especially when it comes to being a male who doesn't fit the male stereotype and gets called a faggot for having strong female traits. Also being misdiagnosed by psychiatrists because they are clueless about my Dyslexia,Dyspraxia including that my cluttering speech is related to those conditions and not a psychotic disorder. I am so rightbrained that I had language problems as a child,and needed special education to correct them. I think mainly in pictures and not words. I am extremely imaginative,and I visualize nonstop..it interferes a lot with verbal thinking.my multiethnic background influences me not to be racist,bigot. I don't go around talking about psychic and metaphysical to people unless online like in this forum. I don't talk about psychic and metaphysical experiences either. I don't share my innerlife people. It's private stuff to me. I am very private when it comes to that stuff.

I know how it is to live like a Pisces. I even have a mother with Sun in 12th trine Neptune,and she's like a Pisces herself.
My father was a pisces moon with a stationary retrograde neptune. my maternal grandfather was a pisces moon too.

Dear Swerve merely connected....

I do it everday......

Sometimes I feel it to be a curse..most days not....

We are what we are...

I can relate too. I do it every day too,and that it can get so tiring. I am very introverted person. I have sensory integration issues which are common in us Dyslexics,Dyspraxics as well people with autistic spectrum disorders and AD/HD.

It's my strong Pisces/Neptune influence that motivates me to help my fellow learning disabled, being an astrologer who gives free readings/reports as well as give out information including type stuff out from books in forums, certified as massage therapist because I want to be a holistic health practitioner,write a lot of poetry as a kid, and I cry very easily to anything that's touching...It doesn't take much for me to cry. I am also a pantheist.

posted December 04, 2006 10:46 AM         

You ARE NOT a Pisces, and having "similar" placements does not and will not make you one.

Your lesson in this lifetime is that of a Scorpio. The fact you have been blessed (or your soul chose) to take that challenge on with some Piscean gifts does not alter the basic journey you will undertake.

Likewise, I am not a Scorpio, though I could quite easily be mistaken for one.

Life is both complicated and simple, and you seem to have grasped only the former.

A child's smile for instance is the result of synaptic responses and DNA coding and external stimuli and unconscious muscle control and emotional stimulation.

It's also beautiful and fills you up with magic. But that magic is missed if the detail is all you see.

Plus, you are being rude in your responses to people. Perhaps you DO need a break as you suggest. We all do from time to time.

I am amazed by the amount of effort you put into posting for other people's questions, but maybe burnout is affecting your perspective?

Try and take that as a friendly suggestion without being offended, but I won't hold my breath.

posted December 04, 2006 10:55 AM         

don't talk to me like I am stupid and ignorant ass because I am NOT

"You ARE NOT a Pisces, and having "similar" placements does not and will not make you one.

Your lesson in this lifetime is that of a Scorpio. The fact you have been blessed (or your soul chose) to take that challenge on with some Piscean gifts does not alter the basic journey you will undertake."

OH please.....give me friggen break
don't be so friggen condescending patronizing towards me. Who the hell do you think you are. who made you GOD to tell me what my lessons in my life are you??????

you DON'T know me nor my friggen chart!

I am more than just a scorpio...my pisces moon is just as my scorpio stuff. my father was a pisces moon, and my mother told me that I was so much like my father. He was a capricorn. I whole friggen chart is relevant..not just not my scorpio stuff

my friggen t-square of Moon in Pisces in 6th square the opposition of Jupiter-Neptune in Sagittarius in 3rd and retrograde Saturn in Gemini in 9th reflect huge lessons.
t-square indicates major lessons. My Moon in Pisces is the focal point of that t-square. Those where I have major lessons! I know my chart and myself......YOU DON'T! a lot of the hardships in my life reflected my t-square including my Pisces Moon...especially when it comes to my mom like her being drug addict,alcoholic,psychiatric problems,and health problems,suicide attempts,being almost shot to death by a schizophrenic,and her own dyfunctional family past including never knowing her mother,and on fixed income,and who depends on me for support....my Pisces Moon grandfather committed suicide,and his death is what got me into the metaphysical including Astrology. My Pisces Moon father was a drug addict,and that's why I never knew him. He was also Dyslexic,dyspraxic like me. It wasn't easy being a black person in the racist south before the 1970's. It's not easy being a racial minority in a country run by whites. It's definitely not easy for me being a mulatto in a country run by whites. It's definitely not easy being Dyslexic,Dyspraxic either. I have my own issues with anxiety and depression like my mother. I have been diagnosed as having those disorders. I know what it's like to not feel like you belong like a fish out of water.

btw...it's not just the sun that are the lessons. It's the whole friggen chart.
As an astrologer, I look at the whole friggen chart...I don't focus on just the friggen sun.

I am not into Sunsign astrology....I don't own a single sunsign astrology book. I definitely don't believe in sunsign astrology compatibility either...there are so many things that can make a person compatible

we are more than just our sunsigns..we are more than just our charts.

I wasn't being rude. I am tired of people like you making assumptions about me without knowing me. I AM FRIGGEN ANGRY!

BTW...Pisces moon FEELS like a Pisces....its instinctive

My Pisces Moon trines my Sun with 2'10 orb
that means that I can easily identify and express my Pisces feeling nature.

I am starting to regret getting into Astrology including helping others.

posted December 04, 2006 11:20 AM         

If you read that and after you read that, then you will really know me.

don't assume crap about me and what my lessons are.....especially not based on my sunsign....if anything it's mostly my t-square including its focal planet,my pisces moon in 6th

posted December 04, 2006 11:27 AM         

another thing

"Glaucus, I didnt think you were in any way judgemental in your readings it's just that Im a sensitive Cancer, so I take everything to heart. Especially after a horrible break-up so pardon the fact that it is like a slap on the face when I am met with reality on this subject. Im still reeling from it. But sometimes, that slap in the face is what I need."

She didn't bust my chops like you people did. That's for damned sure. I understand what she's going through. I have been hurt many of times...that I didn't trust women easily. I felt that I was too sensitive to be in a relationship because I get hurt easily. Loving somebody leaves you very vulnerable. I didn't think any woman would want me because of my special ed past and my not fitting the male stereotype,I kept a big part of who I really was from others.

posted December 04, 2006 11:27 AM         

Dude, get a grip....

Why so much anger?????

I have learned in my lifetime that people who get so defensive and lash out are usually because someone has struck a nerve deep within them---and it is usually the nerve of being wrong!!!!!

You can NEVER know what it is to be a Pisces sun, I do not care how many Neptune/Pisces placements you have or how many people you know with the same...

UNTIL YOU HAVE LIVED THE LIFE AND EXPEREINCED THE SOUL OF A PISCES SUN....

You can not profess to know.

I have a Scorpio Asc that is opposed and square to most of the planets in my chart---my runling planet is in Scorpio in the 12th---does that make me an expert on Scorpio??? Hell NO!!!

Ouchhhh!!!!!!

The sting of the Scorpion---

Sending you some of the warm, peaceful waters in which this Fish chick dwells---

Blessings

posted December 04, 2006 11:31 AM         

In defense of Glaucus, I don't feel that his original post was insensitive at all. I agree with him, the bottom line was that this couple was finished - end of story. All he was doing is pointing out WHY there were still some lingering issues. I'm guessing she probably took some offense to it because it's a fresh breakup, and it was an intense relationship to begin with. It has taken me YEARS to get over breakups before, and when it's first over, you always look for any hint or glimmer of a chance to get it back. Sometimes, you need someone to point out the facts - even if they're blunt about it.

Glaucus has looked at things for me before, and he always tells me what the challenges will be. Sometimes it's not easy to hear, but you know what? He's usually DEAD ON. So, I appreciate him letting me and other people know what obstacles we may face down the road, and how we might work around them.

Also, I'm a pisces moon as well. My boyfriend, brother, and sister are ALL pisces suns. I can tell you straight up that I am far more sensitive to other people's feelings than any of them. Pisces moon gives you an empathy for people that is nearly unbearable and practically debilitating sometimes. There are times when I absolutely HATE it because it induces SO MUCH self sacrifice. It feels like there's a little capricorn inside me screaming, "hey! what about me??!! don't let that person take advantage of you like that!!!" But the Cap NEVER wins. It's horrible.

The theory I've come up with while reading these posts is that I think sometimes it's EASIER for us Pisces mooners to be more assertive or confrontational or speak our minds...whatever, through the written word. Glaucus and I both have traditionally "bossy, tough, strong, sun signs," which probably come out more through emails, letters or a forum like this as opposed to in person. I'll bet if any of you actually knew us in person you would be in for a surprise.

posted December 04, 2006 11:33 AM         

OH WHAT A BUNCH OF ********

If somebody calls me a nigger,and I get upset and tell them that I am not.
Does that make them right?

If somebody calls me a retard,and I get upset and tell them that I am not.
Does that make them right?

If somebody calles me stupid,and I get upseta and tell them that I am not?
Does that make them right?

If somebody calls me a faggot,and I get upset and tell tham that I am not.
Does that make them right?

If I get upset with people diagnosing me with disorders without psychological testing based on my speech irregulairities.
Does that make them right?

HELL NO!!!!!!!!

That's the crap that I dealt with in my life.

So don't even go there and try to put that crap about me being upset because you are right and I am wrong!

I friggen lash out because I am friggen ****** off when assume **** about me without friggen knowing me. I am very hurt right now because I am ultrasensitive person...I have always too sensitive for my own good.....that's my curse,but I know that it's my gift too...but man..it feels mostly a curse...because because I have been hurt so many times in my life.....I know what its to be rejected and crapped upon for being different.

If you really had a Pisces Sun, you would have easily figured that out.

posted December 04, 2006 11:40 AM         

Just made a statement...

I am not the one lashing with the poisonous tail here...

outta here

peace man

posted December 04, 2006 11:40 AM         

Cranky, the lesson of a Pisces Sun is not all about sensitivity. That is NOT the point.

I appreciate your efforts to balance things out, and I know we'd get on because of your Pisces

However. I rest my case with Glaucus. Children are sensitive - they also throw tantrums. Which of these is that?

posted December 04, 2006 11:47 AM         

depends

I have Mercury conjunct Venus in Scorpio in 3rd,and they parallel Neptune. I have Jupiter conjunct Neptune in 3rd oppose my retrograde Saturn in Neptune in 9th square my Moon in Pisces in 3rd.

I am very complexed in how I communication

all I know is that I am easily angered by people who assume stuff about me and give me a hard time without knowing me. It's a perfect way to make an enemy out of me.

My Pisces Moon in me cries deeply inside,but the Scorpio in me fights back and fights back hard. I used to get picked on a lot when I was a little child....because my Dyslexia,Dyspraxia attracted a lot of bullies. When children hit me,I would cry and not fight back. My stepfather finally told me.."If somebody hits you,you hit them back" I listened to him. that was when I was 8 years old. I started defending myself since.

If people give me crap,I will give crap back.

I don't turn the other cheek. I believe in self defense.

posted December 04, 2006 11:53 AM         

That is so condescending and patronizing!

How about me being a person who is angry and hurt because you assume crap about me without knowing me

BTW...a lot of Dyspraxics are very emotional,sensitive people

Especially you have the nerve to invalidate my own Piscean nature without you don't even knowing me...and going to judge my lessons because of my sunsign, Scorpio???

man......you don't think that I should be very angry about that.

then you have the nerve to tell me that I am upset because I am wrong.

There was no logic behind that.

A lot of people get angry,hurt,and upset when people tell them things that they are not and assume crap them without knowing them.
That's how bigotry is. That's how racism is.
That's prejudice.

posted December 04, 2006 11:54 AM         

This is where your argument falls down. You are not defending you are attacking.

You say that people shouldn't assume they know you and preach to you.

You also say that you were administering TOUGH LOVE to someone YOU DON'T KNOW. How bloody presumptious, and then you have the cheek to tell others not to assume and preach!

You contradict yourself at every turn. No-one has attacked you. Your defensiveness is out of hand.

Also, if you keep telling everyone that you are wonderful and benevolent and giving and compassionate but can never be contradicted you are almost like a dictator.

I avoided your free readings thread for fear that it would give you carte blanche on the moral high ground from there on out. Others defend you because you have helped them and for that you should be admired.

But this isn't about that. I just don't think you get it. Many people I like like you so that's where I'll leave it.

posted December 04, 2006 11:59 AM         

No one has a problem with, it but you, that is why you keep blaming others..You are rude or can be and you have gotten into it with numerous memebers on this forum ppl that never say a bad word about anyone..
Somehow you make it like ppl are picking on you....Then you want to cry and make threats to leave the forum..Maybe you do need a break..I suggest you look at yourself and stop pointing fingers cause its not just everyone else..

Now you can cuss me out and say mean things back if you like BUT I don't care, we are all equals here on this board living and learning no one is better then anyone and no one is worst then anyone..If you don't like it TOO BAD..Play nice or go in the house..

posted December 04, 2006 12:18 PM         

Seven, believe me as a Cancer who has an eighth house moon I understand. When we have invested so much in someone it can be very hard to let go, especially when we are in love(which is actually the only time we invest our whole beings in a relationship to tell you the truth). I remember you posting about this Pisces before and I'm actually suprised that it didn't work out. Your sun to moon synastry is very good. You must've atleast felt very comfortable with him at one point? I know since I have that same sun to sun to moon water grandtrine with my bf (he's the sun and moon).

I don't think your love was based on anything false. Love is never based on anything false....otherwise its not love. Perhaps it just that your Pisces has some evolving to do. I know this has been said before but there may be a lesson from all of this.

posted December 04, 2006 12:40 PM         

I know I was shocked to find out that he is a cheater and a liar. Even when he got cuaght, he didn't want to admit that he cheated and insisted that he was faithful the whole time and he wants to marry me, that I am his soulmate. But if it's one thing that I can't take is cheating, thats the Grand Sin for me so what could I do but to walk away? I would've done everything for him and did, at one point and instead of appreciating it, he took it for granted.
I never actually thought this Pisces could be so decieving and manipulative...it shattered all my faith in him. So even if I am still attached to him emotionally, that's easy to rectify. I don't BELIEVE in him anymore and how can you be with someone you have no faith in?
It was like uncovering an ugly monster underneath a seemingly beautiful person.