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CrankyCap Knowflake Posts: 466 From: Powell, Ohio, United States Registered: May 2006
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posted December 04, 2006 02:31 PM
Hey Swerve...I may need your Pisces/Scorp Aqua venus help/advice again. I'm in a bit of a pickle right now, and I need some assistance. Its a bit of a long story, but I'm just sick to my stomach over it...and I need to know how to approach it....IP: Logged |
Swerve Knowflake Posts: 1093 From: London Registered: Nov 2002
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posted December 04, 2006 02:47 PM
Go ahead sweetheart, I'm all ears.Swerve IP: Logged |
CrankyCap Knowflake Posts: 466 From: Powell, Ohio, United States Registered: May 2006
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posted December 04, 2006 03:33 PM
(Deep breath)...Ok, here goes. I have a girlfriend that I actually posted about a few weeks ago (if you want, check the astrology forum for a post on a "leo friend," and that should give some insight). Anyway, bottom line is I DO NOT trust this girl AT ALL. To be completely honest, she's a dirty, dirty, sl*t who will sleep with anything that moves. I know, you're probably thinking like everyone else, "why are you still friends with her?" Good question. After my dad's funeral last summer she was at my house nearly every day helping us out, she came over to help last week when my little sister ran away...she's a good friend IN THOSE regards, so it's hard for me to feel I have a good enough reason for getting rid of her, and with that pisces moon I'm always so afraid of hurting someone's feelings. Anyway, I had been using a dating site online for a while, and I suggested that she try it...so she did. Few months went by, and then I met the pisces guy that I'm currently seeing on there. Once we started seeing eachother he actually put up a picture of both of us, and I told her about it. Since she was on the same site she asked me if she should email him just to say hi and that she was a friend of mine. Well, with my 8th house moon & venus in scorp, not to mention the fact that I don't trust her anyway, I said no. Six weeks go by. Last Saturday one of my best friends had a Christmas party. She (a Gemini) begged me to bring the new guy, so I invited him to come. My leo friend was coming as well. This makes me leary to begin with. She has always made me uncomfortable by flirting openly with just about every boyfriend I've ever had, and with other friends of mine it NEVER bothers me as much as it does with her. I was starting to get nervous as Saturday approached and I even had a nasty nightmare about the whole thing. When the leo arrived at the party, and I went to introduce her to mr. pisces, the second they saw eachother they instantly "knew" eachother. They both said that they recognized eachother from their "pictures." I had shown her pictures of him, but I NEVER showed him any pictures of her. So, obviously, sadly, something transpired between them. I immediately felt sick. The two of them continued flirting for a while too, which just made my blood boil, especially since I tried to warn him about the problems I have with her before hand. I didn't say anything that night, but it's eating at me now. I've been nauseated for two days. I've really fallen hard for this guy, and so far he's proven to be true to his word...but even if a couple of emails were exchanged between them, NEITHER of them told me about it. I HATE, HATE, HATE cheaters. I loathe and detest them, no matter who's cheating with who or why. She sleeps with married and attached men all the time and always has. She slept with her old roommate's boyfriend. When we were in college, I was infatuated with one of the guys in our dorm. He and I were sleeping together but were not exclusive. She knew how I felt about him. Still, she gave him oral sex one night and told me about the next day like it was nothing! And she STILL brings it up!!! Ok, this has gotten really long now, and you're probably wondering why I've asked for your help, but you're the closest thing to my boyfriend on here, so I thought maybe you could give me insight. I need to ask him about this and find out what happened exactly, but I don't know how to approach it and I don't want to sound accusatory because he may not have done anything wrong. I have to know exactly what happened though, and decide whether or not HE'S the right person for me. She's gone regardless...I've been looking for a reason for a long time now, and she's finally done for good. What can I say that won't offend him? How can I approach this? IP: Logged |
miss_muffet Knowflake Posts: 594 From: Registered: Mar 2004
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posted December 04, 2006 06:51 PM
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Swerve Knowflake Posts: 1093 From: London Registered: Nov 2002
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posted December 04, 2006 07:01 PM
E-mails aren't cheating. She may have initiated it and started light banter. He may have been pegged into being nice to your friend.The biggest thing with me is loyalty and I have a huge conscience. I will not deliberately hurt someone I care about. Period. The problem you have with this Leo is that she is a perpetual dark horse and you never know where you stand. The shock of the revelation about the guy you liked before was the reaction to a cruel and pre-meditated attack. I think she is jealous of you, I am in fact sure of it. Bet you never considered that. I reckon she DOES covet your fella, but not for him, for the fact he is yours. Major major issues. Ask him. Say it cooly and calmly and confidently and ask and explain the past (not in detail obviously). If he is innocent he will be concerned that you may be upset and re-assure you. Any anger I would say is suspect, but remember that your friend is deliberately setting you up. She wants a reaction. Don't give her one. Swerve
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Azalaksh Knowflake Posts: 4094 From: New Brighton, MN, USA Registered: Nov 2004
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posted December 04, 2006 09:45 PM
Hi Cranky ~I remember your first thread on your Leo “friend” and Zala has some questions. Pisces Moon or No Pisces Moon, I suggest you quit worrying about hurting the feelings of a “person” (using that term generously) like her. I wonder how long it will be before you cut her out of your life completely and quit showing Leo pics of guys you like (why do you do that when you know she loves to try and “win” them away from you??) Swerve’s right – she’s jealous of you and she’s competing with you for the Prize (the guy). Her self-esteem is based on how many sexual conquests she can make, and the Prize is even sweeter if she can steal him away from another woman. quote: I need to ask him about this and find out what happened exactly, but I don't know how to approach it and I don't want to sound accusatory because he may not have done anything wrong. I have to know exactly what happened though…
I’m curious why you feel like you HAVE TO KNOW what happened?? Would you write off the guy if Leo slept with him (I think I would I’d be grossed-out if she touched him since she never uses any protection and God only knows where she’s been). quote: "why are you still friends with her?" Good question. After my dad's funeral last summer she was at my house nearly every day helping us out, she came over to help last week when my little sister ran away...she's a good friend IN THOSE regards, so it's hard for me to feel I have a good enough reason for getting rid of her
CC, this girl is no good for you, no matter how much she “helps out”. Her values (**cough, cough**) are very different from yours. Despite the fact that you have History together as “friends” you must disconnect as soon as you can. Don’t give her any more opportunities to hurt you. Exactly what did she do that was so wonderful and redeeming when your little sister ran away?? And I wonder if it would be any worse having her as an enemy than as a friend. One of the attributes of a true friend is loyalty – does she show you that?? Can you trust Leo as far as you can throw her?? She is a manipulator of the highest degree. Please cut her out of your life as soon as you can.Good luck and hang in there!! Zala IP: Logged |
Dulce Luna Knowflake Posts: 2921 From: The Asylum Registered: Mar 2006
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posted December 04, 2006 10:04 PM
My sister and I once had a friend just like this. Between the backstabbing and then becoming suicidal/martyrish just for attention and to make us feel bad...we finally nixed her after the very last straw. Oh my God it makes my blood boil just thinking about what happened.
quote: Bet you never considered that. I reckon she DOES covet your fella, but not for him, for the fact he is yours. Major major issues
This probably isn't any further from the truth. This was the same problem we had with our "friend". To our faces she was like "Oh, I wish I were like you,your so [insert your flattering comment] here. But behind our backs it was a complete different story. It was "Oh, they're such trash." or "Oh, they such sl*ts, they sleep around." And this was when in fact she was the one who slept around, she was the sl*t. And don't even get me started with her and the guys we've known. Ok, maybe I've just ranted but I wouldn't recommend you stay friends with this girl. Your story is like deja-vu to me...this girl sounds so similar. IP: Logged |
CrankyCap Knowflake Posts: 466 From: Powell, Ohio, United States Registered: May 2006
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posted December 04, 2006 10:04 PM
Thanks Swerve & Zala. You're both right on the jealousy thing. I have ALWAYS felt an underlying competitiveness and jealousy coming from her and I've never understood why. It's not just with men either, it's with EVERYTHING. It's like everything I have, everything that's mine - she wants a part of it. It's sick, sick, sick! I know. Swerve, I know, I didn't mean to imply that emails were cheating, and I don't think that he's done that. You're right Zala, if I thought that he had I'd drop him like a hot potato. Believe me, anything that she's touched is "contaminated" in my opinion. The reason that I don't think he's done anything is because he spends so much time with me. We usually spend 2 or 3 nights a week together, as well as Friday & Saturday nights. The nights that we're not together, we talk on the phone. So, I can't really imagine when anything would have taken place. I think that either she had already emailed him before she asked me, or went ahead and did it anyway after I said not to. She was the one that seemed like she was trying to "cover it up" not him. I don't think she expected him to say, "I recognize you from your picture," because she immediately turned to me looking very flustered and said, "oh that was probably when I looked at his profile." So, he probably doesn't even realize that there's a problem here. I think he's kind of "monkey in the middle" like you said Swerve. I'm still planning on asking him about it though. It's just something I think will be better done in person. When I said that I hated "cheaters" it was more against her. The fact that she has absolutely no conscience or morals, and doesn't give a damn who she hurts. Believe me Zala, she's done. This is the end of the line for me. My Saggie friend will be so proud! LOL...she's been wanting me to get rid of this lunatic for years! IP: Logged |
GeminiLover75 Knowflake Posts: 1185 From: Registered: Apr 2006
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posted December 04, 2006 10:16 PM
Oh man, I just read this and I agree with the responses! This is THE reason why I do not have any sl*** -wh*** FRIENDS... I did have one (even though my bf told me she was jealous of me but I didn't believe him) and then I found out she made a "suggestive" comment to my boyfriend and I also figured out that she's had a long-standing obsession with him for YEARS... so OUT OF MY LIFE she went, I cut her out COMPLETELY. No matter how nice to me she was, no matter how much we "related", it means nothing to me if I couldn't trust her behind my back. So yeah... slutty friends aren't friends, period. IP: Logged |
Azalaksh Knowflake Posts: 4094 From: New Brighton, MN, USA Registered: Nov 2004
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posted December 04, 2006 10:29 PM
quote: Pisces moon gives you an empathy for people that is nearly unbearable and practically debilitating sometimes. There are times when I absolutely HATE it because it induces SO MUCH self sacrifice. It feels like there's a little capricorn inside me screaming, "hey! what about me??!! don't let that person take advantage of you like that!!!" But the Cap NEVER wins. It's horrible…..The theory I've come up with while reading these posts is that I think sometimes it's EASIER for us Pisces mooners to be more assertive or confrontational or speak our minds...whatever, through the written word.
Hey CC, I think it’s time for you to let the goat out of her mountain cave!! Have you written out a “Goodbye” letter to Leo?? Write down everything you feel and want to say to her face (but Pisces Moon drowns it) – getting it all out on paper is cathartic. Maybe you could even practice a few of the really choice lines that I know you can write, and say them to her two-faced face!! Z IP: Logged |
CrankyCap Knowflake Posts: 466 From: Powell, Ohio, United States Registered: May 2006
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posted December 04, 2006 10:38 PM
LOL!!! Absolutely!!! This goat's going to use her horns baby! That's exactly what I was going to do Zala. I can get very nasty in emails or letters. I planned on giving her a "kiss off" email. I know this is a silly question that has been asked a thousand times on here, but how do I post pics? Thought I might give you guys a visual...lol... IP: Logged |
BornUnderDioscuri Knowflake Posts: 1824 From: Never Never Land Registered: Oct 2006
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posted December 04, 2006 10:41 PM
HI 5 to GeminiLover, this girl knows exactly how i feel, but i just dont have any female friends in college at this point...ehh not good i know...on a different note, i HATE HATE HATE to say such things but feel its for the best. Dear CrankyCap even though this girl helps you out through hard times she is not a good friend, no good friend would EVER cross that boundry and keeping someone who would make you so worried and uncomfortable is not good. While i do believe men can be faithful to the one they trully love, at the beginning of a relationship its really hard to get to know a girl if her friend is just flirting shamelessly. That would make you incomfortable and not really trust him and this puts a strain on your relationships. Im not saying rid of her completely, just keep her away from any potential boyfriends and if you have a bad feeling best avoid putting yourself in the situation where you are upset. Im sorry I just really despise girls like that...royally...IP: Logged |
Azalaksh Knowflake Posts: 4094 From: New Brighton, MN, USA Registered: Nov 2004
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posted December 04, 2006 10:45 PM
You mean a pic of Leo, or a pic of the goat-girl ?? Do you have a photobucket account?? You can upload a pic from your hard drive to that. I don't know the exact steps since I use my website to upload pics to, but if any pic has a url address ending in .jpg .gif or .bmp you can enclose it in [img]x[/img] tags, with "x" being the file address, and plunk it into the LL text box.....Here's an example from the header page of this forum: You can go into anyone's post here by clicking on "Edit" (you won't be able to edit but you can view) to see how they've posted an image or a hyperlink. IP: Logged |
CrankyCap Knowflake Posts: 466 From: Powell, Ohio, United States Registered: May 2006
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posted December 04, 2006 11:00 PM
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CrankyCap Knowflake Posts: 466 From: Powell, Ohio, United States Registered: May 2006
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posted December 04, 2006 11:02 PM
Haha!!! It worked...ok, that's me and mr. pisces. A picture that the leo took. Note, my kung fu body language...it says, "back off bit*h!!! he's mine!!!" LOLIP: Logged |
CrankyCap Knowflake Posts: 466 From: Powell, Ohio, United States Registered: May 2006
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posted December 04, 2006 11:03 PM
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eatbooks Knowflake Posts: 619 From: Registered: Dec 2006
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posted December 04, 2006 11:04 PM
is that the picture of the leo? if thats the case, i dont care how screwed up she is, posting her picture without permission is WRONG. Edited to add: posting her pic wouldn't be so awful if you were talking sh-t about her. She sounds like a screwed insecure girl...whatever...but your actions arent excusable.. ------------------ your pain is my pain, is that love? IP: Logged |
CrankyCap Knowflake Posts: 466 From: Powell, Ohio, United States Registered: May 2006
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posted December 04, 2006 11:11 PM
Eatbooks - Honestly, if you knew her, you'd realize that she'd love the attention more than anything else. Don't worry, wasn't planning on keeping that pic up for too long...just for a couple of people. Besides, BELIEVE me...she has sent plenty of naked photos to men's camera phones and email address. Do you think she knows what happens to all of those once they're sent? Plus, she's on a couple of PUBLIC dating sites right now. I could've given you the link to one of those and you could have checked her out yourself. What's the difference?IP: Logged |
Azalaksh Knowflake Posts: 4094 From: New Brighton, MN, USA Registered: Nov 2004
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posted December 04, 2006 11:14 PM
CC, you and Mr Pisces look great together!! Thanks for putting that up for us Am digging the "kung fu body language"
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CrankyCap Knowflake Posts: 466 From: Powell, Ohio, United States Registered: May 2006
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posted December 04, 2006 11:14 PM
Eatbooks - If YOU think she's just a sad insecure girl...then YOU be her friend. I've retired. I've been in that mindset for 10 years and look where it's got me?I didn't post the pic for revenge! IP: Logged |
CrankyCap Knowflake Posts: 466 From: Powell, Ohio, United States Registered: May 2006
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posted December 04, 2006 11:18 PM
Thanks Zala. Of course, now I feel bad for posting her picture!!! Just thought I'd show everyone the players in this mini saga. IP: Logged |
eatbooks Knowflake Posts: 619 From: Registered: Dec 2006
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posted December 04, 2006 11:20 PM
if the guys you date would get lured away by one of your friends(be it her or anyone), then good riddance I say...who wants a guy that would be tempted by another person especially a "good friend"....I wouldnt leave up the picture long, i just feel its wrong...I know its a touchy issue for you, but imagine her posting your pic and talking sh-t...I doubt she'd want her posts posted in a thread about her being insecure sl-t....eh? put yourself in her shoes....------------------ your pain is my pain, is that love? IP: Logged |
GeminiLover75 Knowflake Posts: 1185 From: Registered: Apr 2006
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posted December 04, 2006 11:21 PM
Guess what BUD, I have very few female friends too! Why?! Because most of them can't be trusted... and I have to say, my experience with that obsessed b*tch I was talking about has made me very wary of who I trust in the future. Annnd... CC, you and your man are a very VERY good-looking couple!!! IP: Logged |
Azalaksh Knowflake Posts: 4094 From: New Brighton, MN, USA Registered: Nov 2004
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posted December 04, 2006 11:22 PM
quote: Thanks Zala. Of course, now I feel bad for posting her picture!!!
"Pisces Moon, you naughty little lunar wet blanket!!!" (**Zala shakes finger at cowering Moon**) "You get yourself back to the ocean and let CapGoat out to butt things in the butt for awhile!!! Stop making her feel bad about her feelings!!!"IP: Logged |
CrankyCap Knowflake Posts: 466 From: Powell, Ohio, United States Registered: May 2006
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posted December 04, 2006 11:23 PM
Eatbooks - Sadly, that's exactly the problem...I've ALWAYS put myself in her shoes, and everyone else's. I never think about what's good for me. That's why I'm still friends with her. I feel bad for her, and then I go back to being her friend. It's been a vicious cycle for years. Plus, believe me...I KNOW she talks sh*t about me. 100% sure of it. But I really don't care...IP: Logged | |