posted April 06, 2007 03:35 PM         

so u and the piscean have a sun conj venus !! btw, uranus is not as bad as saturn, as it also means sudden beginnings who knows?

Things r better than the last time i talked to you. but still that line 'the saboteur is within' rings in my mind. i DO think i am programmed to sabotage my career, and it takes the utmost will to act in my own interests. i have no clue why i do such irresponsible things.

my saturn return is wud be in libra 9 degree in my 3rd house. so i have some time. before that it wud trine my venus and square my moon simultaneously as they r exactly quincunx in my chart....kind of contradictory...so i don't know wht wud happen. and then when it's in libra, it wud be trining the moon and squaring venus. weird, huh ? and this wud be just before the return.

posted April 08, 2007 05:32 PM         

WHoopsies, missed this post.. I've been working my tail off lately - I'm either at work or at school 7 days a week, so I haven't been visiting as often.

The Pisces and I have not only his Sun conj my Venus/IC but also his Mars and South Node, and his Moon/NN/Saturn rx oppose all this, so we have some complex ties. His Karma sits on my DC as well, and my Karma conjuncts his Neptune, and a host of other intense contacts. I guess all of this makes it all so complicated, but I feel that we're not done somehow. About Uranus, that's true... sudden beginnings may be in the cards too; heyyy, is that an optimist I see peeking out from the closet??

Now you sound like me... See, if you absolutely refuse to give up, the Universe is bound to acknowledge that stubborn will in you - this is my theory & I firmly refuse to think otherwise. So, I think that rather than focusing too much on the 'saboteur' part, you should try to look ahead to the wonderful things you're going to accomplish (even if it takes time... these things take time sometimes, baby steps...)

I pulled a Wisdom card for you, and imagine my surprise when this came up; I loved this one, and I think you'll like it too:

quote:

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"It is only a thought, and a thought can be changed.

The thoughts I choose to think and believe right now are creating my future. These thoughts form my experiences tomorrow, next week, and next year."

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So your Saturn Return will be in 3rd, huh? (Mine was in 9th, across from there) Here's what Saturn transiting 3rd will mean, and I think it will bode well for you as far as the PhD goes:

"This transit marks a time when how you have networked with people around you, and how you gain and disseminate information, come up for inspection by Saturn. A new kind of pressure is produced—it's not about your personality or your resources like it was in the first and second houses. Rather, the pressure centers more around mental output. You may feel pressure to produce ideas, and to make them work. A certain somberness in your outlook may be characteristic of this phase, as it may be a time of worry. It may seem like acquaintances and sometimes siblings are blocking your growth in some manner, and these relationships may be strained as a result. Although you have a desire to make contacts, you are now rather preoccupied with learning, and you may view idle chit-chat as a waste of time. You may feel an unusual pressure to structure your time and effort, and to cut out communication that seems unnecessary. You may at times feel rather overwhelmed by such things as errands, red tape, and other such day-to-day "disruptions". As Saturn moves closer to your IC (the fourth house cusp), there may be some vague feeling of urgency and worry, as if you sense some things in your life are closing. By the end of the transit, however, you will have ideally gained a greater depth of understanding, having focused on information and communication that you really can use to feel more effective in the world."

And, I'm thinking if it highlights your Moon-Venus quincunx, it is going to bring those issues to the fore, the conflict between your emotional side and your Venusian side; I guess this will be on the 1st-7th axis? or the 11th-5th axis?

posted April 08, 2007 05:37 PM         

"When transiting Saturn trines our natal Moon, we feel more in control of our
emotions, our domestic affairs, and our personal habits. We feel considerably more mature and capable of handling our personal lives. Family matters assume more importance in our lives now, and we meet our responsibilities with maturity and competence. We have much to learn from older people in our lives, and during this transit, we are more likely to actually listen to what they have to say, and learn from them. Which house does the Moon rule in your chart? (There may be more than one). Wherever you find Cancer in your chart, you will notice this mature and steady energy. For example, if the Moon rules your 5th house, you might be less inclined to jump into a romantic fling during this transiting trine and more capable of dealing with children. You might begin a new romance that is considerably more mature in nature than previous ones, or your current relationships might become more practical or reliable. Because the fifth house rules our creative self-expression, and Saturn has a stabilizing and realistic effect, we might turn our hobbies into businesses during this transit. At the very least, our self-expression becomes more sober and practical. If the Moon rules our seventh house, we might notice that our partnerships (including marriage) become
more practical and goal-oriented. We are able to manage these relationships with more maturity. If we are not involved in a partnership before the transit, we might enter into one, simply because it is a more relationship-friendly period of time when we get serious about our commitments."

"When Saturn transits square Venus:

A time to be patient and tread a little lightly when it comes to indulgence and overextending yourself. Things could be tight. You may find it hard to appreciate or enjoy very much just now, and times may find you feeling lonely and at odds with life.

Socially and emotionally this is a period of contraction, withdrawal, cooling off, and being alone. Even if there are people who love and care about you, you question, doubt, and test their loyalty and affection. Questions of commitment or allegiance may arise. This can be a very stressful time in your personal relationships. You may distance yourself in order to evaluate what is going on. Perhaps your own ability to love, to share yourself deeply, and to be intimate with others is an issue now. If you have been neglecting the needs of your heart or your loved ones, the effects of that will be shown to you, and may precipitate a crisis. Or, there may be a parting or loss. If your love life is basically fulfilling and going well, your relationships will continue and even grow stronger through this period of testing.

Financially you're apt to be contracted and conservative as well. Fears related to money and material security are activated now. Be aware that these are mostly unfounded if you have been responsible with your money up until now. Still, this can be a period of austerity or belt-tightening and making significant financial investments or purchases would be unwise.

Positive Potentials:

Releasing self-deception and illusions regarding intimate others, and letting go of involvements which have fulfilled their purpose. Learning about self-love, self-appreciation, and what you have to give others. Recognizing the importance of love in your life and reorienting your focus to include more heart connections, intimacy, and caring. Finding the essence of love; less concern with superficial appearances.

Negative Potentials:

Questioning your own value, your ability to love and be loved. Rejecting love offered, or feeling rejected. Loneliness, humorlessness, joylessness, being overly serious.

Remedies and Suggestions:

Do not force yourself into sociability that you do not feel, in an effort to avoid the
discomfort you may be experiencing. Instead, choose to find nourishing and gratifying activities that you can provide for yourself. Simplify your surroundings and create beauty through simplicity. Make a list of 100 things that you love and that give you pleasure. Do some of them. Make amends to the people in your life who you have neglected or been unloving towards.

*A sobering experience in a love relationship occurs around this time. You may be rudely shown ways in which your attitude and behavior towards a loved one is based on misguided principles.

+A time to be patient and tread a little lightly when it comes to indulgence and
overextending yourself. Things could be tight. You may find it hard to appreciate or enjoy very much just now, and times may find you feeling lonely and at odds with life."

posted April 09, 2007 03:18 PM         

yes i am quite an optimist. u cud even say happy go lucky. i have saturn conj jupiter...

tht is pretty cool about u and the piscean. what do the cards say about it?

i somehow feel tht i have learnt quite a lot in the relationships arena....so theoretically saturn should leave tht bit alone !! ahh well, may be i just need to consolidate the lessons learned. anyways i dont see any relationship in sight for a long long time. i get the feeling tht the next 2-3 years r going to be a time totally devoted to my career, which i have neglected for quite some time. it had never been a priority for me. and now i think i am being forced to direct my attention towards it.

i liked the wisdom card !!! so its all in my mind....hmmmm

btw, i didn't notice....saturn wud be trining a lot of stuff when it returns....moon in 11th, merc/mars and conj jupiter. only squaring venus in 6th. so i'll keep my fingers crossed. lets see how things turn out.

posted April 11, 2007 09:50 PM         

You're very welcome, girl!!

WOW, you sure must be lucky to have Jupiter on Saturn!!! I'm sure that will help you through your Saturn Return too. And the trine aspect with most of your natal planetary positions will make it a smoother one too.

Alas, I haven't pulled cards on the Pisces and I; it works so well when I do it for other people, but I doubt it would for myself. I'd be afraid my lack of objectivity would cloud the intuitive ability or interpretation, so someone else would have to do it! On the Enchanted Oracle thread though, she pulled "Jupiter" for me, and it sounded so lovely!! New beginnings and all that...