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ListensToTrees
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posted October 26, 2007 04:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ListensToTrees     Edit/Delete Message
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MysticMelody
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posted October 26, 2007 12:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MysticMelody     Edit/Delete Message
Yes, God doesn't have a Twin Soul, God is ALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL. And we are God. We are all One. All God. Just God. That's Who We Are. It's quite lonely. So, now the "matrix" or the "game" or the "illusion" comes Full Circle and we Understand that maybe tearing this veil off isn't the funnest idea. Now you know how it feels to BE GOD. The POWER. Yah, it's thrilling for about a minute, or years or eons or whatever.
Then it just gets lonely.
The existential problem.
The problem of existence.

"Illusion" starts to have it's good points.
"Ignorance"
"Is"
"Bliss"
Are you picking up what I am laying down here?

Mother
Tell your children not to walk my way
Tell your children not to hear my words
What they mean
What they say
Mother

Mother
Can you keep them in the dark for life
Can you hide them from the waiting world
Oh mother

Father
Gonna take your daughter out tonight
Gonna show her my world
Oh father

Not about to see your light
But if you wanna find hell with me
I can show you what its like
Till your bleeding

That is why some people choose the matrix.
Even if you have to live with the duality of the game. Some have one foot in each world. For some, the wisdom and intelligence HAS DRIVEN THEM MAD. Too much too soon and hello all the "separate" parts of myself. All the aspects of mySelf and myself. Welcome to schizophrenia.

That is why you take it slow (and carefully) or you GO HOME. Otherwise you'll explode (or maybe slowly and innocuously separate) in fragments of Self and self.

But maybe that's part of the game too... maybe the people down at the bus stop mumbling to themselves WANT to slowly dissolve into infinity. Good for them. Not this lifetime for me. And if I did see myself going that direction I would learn to make a fine pair of sturdy newspaper shoes. But maybe that would be part of the game too... I wouldn't see it coming.
Whatever, this kind of thought can go on for days and weeks and months and yadda yadda while you waste away on a mountain top.

What's on t.v.?
Hot chocolate sounds good.
What? Hot chocolate doesn't really exist in the form I think it does? Screw that, who wants to exist without hot chocolate... and hot other stuff for that matter.

I've decided right now that I HAVE A TWIN SOUL. And as soon as I find someone as screwed up and deluded as I am, we can create our own imaginary reality and live in a world with moderate amount of peace and joy combined with moments of ecstasy, bliss, and even anger and pain just for the "hell" of it.

I read your thing on Twin Souls, by the way. It explains what I have intuitively known and pieced together from my reading almost exactly. I copied it to share with others who are searching for answers. It explains my philosophy on God well. So, know that this is an informed reply and that I understand and experience your feelings on the subject.

Do you think this is Heaven?
Do you think this is Hell?
Do you think this is Purgatory?

It's ALL. And it's NONE. And it's whatever you decide it is, and it's whatever it IS whether you decide it or not. It's ALL.

It's ALL

ALL


Just have fun.

*reaches out and gently squeezes your nose*

"Beep"

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NAM
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posted October 26, 2007 04:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NAM     Edit/Delete Message
wow........haha!!!!!!!!

Might as well laugh.

I still think God exists, love exists and can be reach with one person only but this God wants to keep all the fun for himself, he likes to control us with the one thing we can not control ourselves.It is his way to keep us "looking" because if we don't look and we become complete with who we are, we die, game is over.
And this is what he controls:
"The freewill of another human that wants to love you for who you are and completes you perfectly even if you guys are not perfect, not only that but you also have great sex with this partner."

I think it can be achieved.


ahhhhhhhhhh to dream!


Beep, beep! :P

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posted October 26, 2007 04:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ListensToTrees     Edit/Delete Message
MM.

Great post. Thank you for sharing your thoughts with me and for reading.

Which Twin Self thing did you copy? This one or the other one in Universal Codes?

Nam,

Yes, I think it is possible.


EveryOne,

I have to admit that I'm not necessarily right. I just had to "vent my spleen" today because I am sick of aching and longing for my "Twin S-elf". It just isn't going to happen right now, and if it will, apparently you need to be so spiritually developed, etc that you no longer "need" a Twin S-elf.......and then they appear:
http://www.heartflamepublishing.com/twinflamephysics.html

In any case, it would appear that there's no point sitting around hoping, longing, dreaming and trying to ordain the meeting of your other half, because it just doesn't work that way.

And MM,

I understand what you wrote....but then again......

Who knows?

Anything is possible......

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posted October 26, 2007 04:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ListensToTrees     Edit/Delete Message
Let's go back in Time......

When I was a little girl, I thought I would like to be a nun.

The spiritual side of life has always held more fascination for me than anything else.

I read some time ago that the Neptune placement in the 12th house (mine is in Sagittarius).....is an indication of a previous life in a monastery or such.

My karmic astrology report, which finally came yesterday, knocked my socks off as far as the astrological analysis went. She then gave brief details of psychic images of me in the past which came to her mind, and one or more of the happiest lives I've had is, apparently as a nun at a place in England called Walsingham, which was once one of the most important places of pilgrimage in Europe, before Oliver Cromwell led his persecutions.......

Anyway, I was thinking about the strong impact this life may have left on my subconscious, and I have now decided that the dream I had at 9 years old was not my Twin S-elf but was, in fact, Jesus as a boy, and my longing to be with him (and attachment to this past life/lives, which were happy).
Nuns do think of themselves as being "married" to Jesus.
The ocean in our dreams represents the deep parts of our subconscious.

Perhaps this dream was not my Twin S-elf at all, but has caused me all this confusion over the years.....and perhaps put up mental images which maybe prevented me from meeting the true other half of my soul?!

Perhaps the true other half of my soul is still out there?!

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NAM
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posted October 26, 2007 05:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NAM     Edit/Delete Message
Nevermind, I don't want to seem bitter.

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posted October 26, 2007 06:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message
Twin-anything here at LL makes me cringe (unless we're talking about Gemini energy).

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NAM
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posted October 26, 2007 08:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NAM     Edit/Delete Message
AG~what do you mean Gemini energy and why are you so bitter about twin/other half stuff?

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posted October 26, 2007 09:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message
Gemini is symbolized by the Twins.

I get annoyed with twin/other half stuff, because ...essentially it's an impractical, idealistic idea. You want a relationship, right? How does this idea of some perfect twin-soul help you in obtaining that relationship? It doesn't. It's like you're saying that you want to sort through all the men in the world until you find the absolute perfect match. It's an impractical notion.

You don't know what you need from a relationship until you've spent a lot of time in relationships trying different things, and different people out. You might think you've found a near perfect person to try out, only to find out later that they weren't really right for you at all. Isn't it better just to stay open, and not concentrate on fulfilling some idea? You might end up with a person who you didn't think would suit you, but actually suits you quite well.

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posted October 26, 2007 09:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NAM     Edit/Delete Message
what about chemestry and sex though, guys seem to get their rocks off just by anyone and every girl they are with is basiclly the same, I don't comprehend that, it doesn't work like that to me.
And trust me I have talked to endless amount of guys about this and they all say the same in the beginning, every girl is special, is always special, but when I dig deeper it is not, basiclly what you guys do is go from hole to hole finding the perfect match.
Same difference...

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posted October 26, 2007 11:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MysticMelody     Edit/Delete Message
Hey Trees It was an Angelina Heart or whatever thing. Bulletin on Space. I just bookmarked that link too. I'll have to check her out. Thanks : ) I can see the nun thing.

Hey AG, practical Capricorn man : ) Yeah, that is what Trees is talking about when she says that she has discovered that you have to be practically perfect to find the "Twin", which clearly means it isn't going to happen in this dimension, so it is a stupid and nauseating idea, as you mentioned.

Hey Nellie I sometimes have a hard time understanding you. Is your first language english? That's usually the problem when I have a hard time understanding a poster. Or maybe I am just misunderstanding you this time. I want to reply to you but I don't know what to say!! : )
I don't know what you are trying to say here in relation to what you said right before it:

quote:

And this is what he controls:
"The freewill of another human that wants to love you for who you are and completes you perfectly even if you guys are not perfect, not only that but you also have great sex with this partner."

I think it can be achieved.



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posted October 26, 2007 11:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NAM     Edit/Delete Message
MM~Sorry, usually when I speak all day in spanish to famiy or some clients I get my English grammar backwards!

I'll rephrase:

What I am trying to say is that sometimes it feels as if there is a God he doesn't give us the control over who we want to fall in love with, most times you fall in love with a person that is already in love with another person and that person loves someone else and so on.
So what people end up doing is just "settleting" for another "close to their ideals" but free person to have a relationship with, I am not saying there is no love but that love is not nearly as special as with the "right" person.

It is so beautiful to be in love why does it has to be so hard.
And that is just one situation of many, what about people that let their partner cheat because they can't bare the pain of not being with the same...

That is what I was trying to say, God seems to have the last card on love.And he won't use it.It is his way of keeping us in line or trying to keep us in line.

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posted October 27, 2007 03:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Isis     Edit/Delete Message
I personally don't think there's such thing as a "soulmate" or a "twin s-elf"...I think that just sets someone up to be completely unfullfilled as they are, unfullfilled in who they are, etc.

I find it hard to believe that one's purpose in life is to float around doing whatever, as they search for what is essentially a needle in a haystack of several billion people, looking for that "twin self".

Just my take on it...

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posted October 27, 2007 04:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message
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It is so beautiful to be in love why does it has to be so hard.

How do you know it's beautiful to be in love? Were you in love, and it didn't work out? Does that qualify as true love if you couldn't make it work?

What about the people who seem to settle, but have an ongoing friendship, ongoing working relationship, ongoing positive thoughts and feelings for their partner, etc? When they've been happily married 50 years, would you characterize them as soulmates?

Soulmates and twin-whatevers are a destination, not a starting point. If you make a list of must-haves (qualities) for your potential partners, you can practically guarantee your perpetual disappointment.

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posted October 27, 2007 05:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ListensToTrees     Edit/Delete Message
MM
quote:
that you have to be practically perfect to find the "Twin", which clearly means it isn't going to happen in this dimension,

Not exactly.....

quote:
You may think you are in love with someone, but you are not. You are in love with what others mirror back to you about yourself. As we return to a higher consciousness, all will understand that the union we seek is, absolutely and only, the merging of the balance of the Divine Feminine and Divine Masculine aspects of SELF.

Relationships in duality consciousness in this third dimension have merely provided an educational platform. A relationship with any person, condition, place or thing only mirrors facets of yourself back to you. So, looking for love outside of yourself or seeking another to validate you or add meaning to your life is a waste of precious time. Romance is about romancing the ONE and the One is God. And as Twin Flames reunite, they become One.

It is a dichotomy, a grand paradox of life, but this is how it works in our reality.----as soon as you become the fullness of the Twin Flame energy, giving forth God’s limitless love continually from the conduit of your heart, your Twin Flame will appear before you as a SYMBOL in the form of another.

Sounds like applying for a loan. You can only get one if you don’t need one, eh?


(From the Angelina Heart link).

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posted October 27, 2007 05:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ListensToTrees     Edit/Delete Message
I basically feel there is a LOT of truth in what she wrote, however, for me to truly KNOW if I believe in Twin S-elves or not would be to SEE it with my OWN EYES. If not my own, then to see someone else in a Twin S-elf relationship would convince me more- I'd use my intuition for guidance.

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posted October 27, 2007 07:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Green Fairy     Edit/Delete Message
I don't believe in Twin S-elves and i'm an Agnostic.

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You don't know what you need from a relationship until you've spent a lot of time in relationships trying different things, and different people out.
There are some people out there including me, who just don't wanna spend a lot of time in relationships, trying people/things out. It's a waste for my body and soul.
I don't believe in an ideal/perfect partner either though.

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posted October 27, 2007 07:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ListensToTrees     Edit/Delete Message
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It's a waste for my body and soul.

Yes, it can be rather exhausting.
Linda wrote something about promiscuous sex....can "short-circuit the soul". I can't speak for others, but there is truth in that, as woman tend to have deeper emotional needs than men.

But then it all depends on the individuals.....are they both being honest and sincere? Are either of them using the other? Does either of them need one more than the other?

The real pain comes from forming an attachment to someone who doesn't need you as much, or feel the same way.
Unrequited love.

Love is a strange thing.....

The eyes of the beholder.......

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posted October 27, 2007 08:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ListensToTrees     Edit/Delete Message
P.S. I'd also like to say that I don't agree with Angelina Hearts words when she says
quote:
You may think you are in love with someone, but you are not.

If you feel or have felt love for someone in a relationship that didn't last, it doesn't mean that the love is/was not real.
Any love you feel for someone is real, as we are remembering, in the moment of this feeling, that they are in truth really a part of us, as all is One.

However, it is the actual brain chemistry of being "in love" that is in a sense, not real. This is the part that is transient.

http://www7.nationalgeographic.com/ngm/0602/feature2/index.html

Love in itself is Eternal.

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posted October 27, 2007 11:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MysticMelody     Edit/Delete Message
Nellie,
quote:

God seems to have the last card on love.And he won't use it.It is his way of keeping us in line or trying to keep us in line.

This might be true in the sense that there will always be "space" between us that can cause "fear" as long as we choose to exist at this level. Make that, "W"e "C"hoose, as in the combined intelligence and wisdom from the Beginning. So, in order to continue the game, those have to be the rules. Otherwise we are all just one lump and there is no fun search for the soulmate to worry about... or to entertain us.

Trees,
Yep, that's what I said. I was summing up that exact part. You just don't take it that extra step that I do. You don't see it the way that I do. It seems you still think you have found this great secret that no one else understands. The stuff your Angelina wrote and put into the pretty, colorful presentation complete with pretty, colorful pictures and pretty, colorful words... it's the exact same stuff I have been spouting to people around me for years. I just kept her presentation because she did the work of writing it down for me and packaging it pleasantly. It's more palatable that way.

Capricorn works in generics, not flashy name brands. Simple, not complicated.


*you have to be practically perfect to find the "Twin", which clearly means it isn't going to happen in this dimension


*giving forth God’s limitless love continually from the conduit of your heart, your Twin Flame will appear before you as a SYMBOL in the form of another.

Looks the same to me. I said "practically" perfect because if you were just "perfect" you would have already risen to God.

Or are you arguing that you believe it CAN happen in this dimension? Do you even know what a dimension is?

Never-mind, good luck on your quest. You have found some nice links. I'm glad you shared them here at LL.

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posted October 28, 2007 06:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ListensToTrees     Edit/Delete Message
MM,

I wasn't disagreeing with you.
IMO, the Angelina Heart link (though I was initially very impressed), only has some truth in it, and to be honest, I couldn't be bothered to read the whole thing in detail, just parts of it. There is a lot of long-winded "new-age" ramble out there- you just have to use your intuition to feel guided towards the purest truth at the core of it all, IMO.

I don't think I've found any "great secret" in fact.

I am only trying to find answers, I am very passionate about searching.

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posted October 28, 2007 08:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message
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I am only trying to find answers, I am very passionate about searching.

So was Einstein, so keep up the good work!

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posted October 29, 2007 08:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ListensToTrees     Edit/Delete Message
LOL, not quite in his league AG, but yeah....."Seek and ye shall find".

Eventually.

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If only we could feel and understand all each others feelings....then EMPATHY and LOVE would be law in itself.

Perhaps......we (all souls)........who come, to incarnate upon this Earth.......
are all sacrificial lambs, in a sense

Choosing to suffer, not because of karma, but for some higher purpose of learning, evolving, and becoming true Gods with true wisdom.........

http://www.myspace.com/lostinstrangeworld

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posted October 29, 2007 08:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for NAM     Edit/Delete Message
I am right there with you LTT, sometimes I think you write your posts just to mess with me, like if you are following me to write things for me LOL
Say, can I have a peak at your chart?

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posted October 30, 2007 07:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ListensToTrees     Edit/Delete Message
Umm.....not quite sure I get what you mean, Nam?

You mean you feel we share very similar thoughts?

Sure, here's my chart:

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