posted December 18, 2007 07:40 PM         

One last piece of information that is needed to read your chart correctly is the place you were born. I just assumed Murray, UT because that is part of your profile, but you can't assume everyone was born where they currently live. Also, if you can please check the document that has your time of birth, you need to have the exact time because it affects the way the chart is read. Without the correct time, the chart is wrong.

Please include those and I will take a look.

Geocosmic Valentine
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posted December 19, 2007 12:26 AM         

The best piece of advice in regards to making friends is to be the friend you would love to have. Really think about what you would like and appreciate in a friend and BE THAT!

People like being around people who are warm and kind and who make them feel good about themselves, make them laugh and listen to them and make them feel appreciated. I'm sure you are a warm and kind person with a lot to give to a friendship, but I would take a look at myself and how I come across to others, and make appropriate adjustments.

I'm not saying you shouldn't be yourself, but we can all, always improve ourselves and be better versions of who we are, and make sure our message isn't getting distorted somewhere along the way.

posted December 19, 2007 12:31 AM         

You ROCK!!

posted December 19, 2007 12:55 AM         

Geocosmic Valentine..
Here's the rest of the info to do my chart. Thank you so much for offering that. I noticed you're a professional astrologer? I am honored that you'd offer your knowledge.
So here goes.. I was born in Redondo Beach, CA at 12:55 PM.. which is kind of funny.. I was only one minute off lol!

Thanks again to you both!

posted December 19, 2007 12:55 AM         

That's what I try to do in my friendships. Be the friend I would love to have.

I am also a very good friend to myself. I try not to ever self-flagellate and be mean and nasty to myself... When something crappy happens and I hear the negativity coming out, I try to think of what I would say to a dear friend in my situation, and say that to myself.

Loving and being kind to yourself is the first step to being a happy and loving person that others want to have in their lives and be around.

posted December 19, 2007 01:03 AM         

You rock Venus de Milo!

posted December 19, 2007 01:43 AM         

OMG, we're so awesome it hurts! :laughs:

About your friend, have you tried to make amends?

With my very best friend, we've known one another for 10 years, and we had a big big fight at about the 3 or 4 years mark... but we made it through it.

I told him recently, if I ever, ever, ever do anything that upsets or p*sses him off to just please tell me, because that is NEVER EVER my intention, I will apologize immediately, I don't care who is wrong! i will be sorry! Screw it!!! LOL!!! I just want us to be friends forever and ever.

posted December 19, 2007 09:01 AM         

Thanks for the correct information, the location completely changed what I was looking at, as I thought it would. I will get back to you with some information about your subject of friendship and socializing.

Venus De Milo,

We all do rock so much, we should start a rock band.

Geocosmic Valentine

posted December 19, 2007 11:44 AM         

Venus de Milo,
Yeah we're at the beginning of trying to paste our friendship back together. For one who besides this guy, really doesn't have any friends, It means a lot to me to hang on to him.

And thanks Geocosmic Valentine for doing that for me. I really appreciate it.

posted December 19, 2007 05:46 PM         

Thanks for befriending me on MySpace, what a nice surprise, and I must comment that you did a great job socializing by sending me a message identifying yourself first. Don't underestimate courtesies like that, they are an EXTREMELY important part of being well socialized. I wish everyone would send a lovely note first introducing themselves, seriously. Well, let me get to the things that I noticed for you.

Your chart suggests that you grew up under a tremendous amount of developmental pressure and a lot of it had to do with your Dad. There is mother stuff, too, but I'll focus on Dad first. He was either passive, absent or tyrannical during your early home life; possibly a combination of all three. Which ever one it was, he was unable to give you the appropriate authoritative love. There’s also the suggestion that he may have been weak in some way, possibly substance abuse (I really don’t know) but it leads to another pattern suggesting that you may have had to nurture him or had to become the mother in your early home. This is the first pattern that directly affects your sense of self-worth leaving you with a low sense of self esteem. There's no way for me to confirm any of this without you confirming it so please bare with me. When we don't feel worthy we don't really put ourselves out there, we don't show ourselves off in order to show our availability for friendships or romantic relationships. Then there is one symbol that is placed in a spot that suggests that when you must put yourself out there, it may be in a very intense and eccentric manner, possibly over-doing it and this behavior may be specific to relationships, VERY CHARGED in terms of relationships of all kinds.

I'm not the kind of person who tells people that they are giving off bad vibes, but an eccentric presentation or intense way of relating to others could need modifying if you really recognize this in yourself, and possibly adding an aggression to how you relate to others. The chart suggests something very primitive, deep, secret and possibly controlling about your relating style. This suggestion is coupled with possible emotional complication and a high form of spirituality, you may really enjoy researching spiritual and religious issues. Also, forgive me, the chart suggests a POSSIBLE messiah complex that may be a result of you having an intense compulsion to give or nurture others. You may correct me if I’m wrong.

Please, I need to repeat this to you, I don't want to paint you with what I'm seeing, I could be way off the ball here so you will have to be the one to confirm if what I'm seeing is right or wrong.

The second pattern suggests that there was something aggressive about your Mom possibly making you nervous and irritable about relationships. I want to say that there was lots of bickering or arguing in reference to Mom, and maybe something HIGHLY ECCENTRIC. It could be anywhere from her just being overly nurturing or the extreme opposite, she may not have been available for nurturing because she may have wanted sooo much freedom, or she wasn't there in some way, also. Something about her presence or her behavior may be one of the causes of you wanting to isolate yourself, in an intense way. Something about her intensity, there's so much cerebral energy around her and you. I don't know what that is, you have to confirm again.

There are other patterns in your chart that echo this theme. I was going to ask you if you were a writer, but then I saw your MySpace occupation and I wish I hadn't because it confirmed it for me already, but I want to expand on that and say that you've actually "got game" in a powerful way as far as - either it's teaching in higher education or publishing, law, government, philosophy or philanthropy. And I want to add that you may be prominent in this arena in some way, shape or form. You are awesome with the details of your writing and communicating, you may be kind of argumentative or you love debate.

As far as sabotaging relationships, I'm not sure you should consider it a theory, you are just getting past a SUPER PRESSURIZED FOCUS on relationships of all kinds, although this issue with your friend is where you received most of the brunt of it.

I think the greatest part of that storm is over as far as the bad part that happened with your friend, and you're rebuilding. It was definitely a force of destruction to rebuild. This needed to happen for you to get to the point of asking these questions and wanting to learn the proper ways of relating and socializing. You are becoming a different person and you are gaining a whole new set of resources in your life.

Did you receive some type of reward recently, some really good recognition? It could be anything from finding money on the street or a large bonus, a hope, dream or wish come true?

Are you making plans to travel internationally or are you about to publish a book or something?

Last but not least, look into the Mom and Dad stuff, you may have been already, but they are usually the key to our socialization and relationship issues.

I also want to ask, what happened with Mom when you were 4 years old?

That's all I can do for now. I only ask that you confirm what I’ve written for right or wrong, it’s how I continue to learn and I understand that it may need some digestion so I won’t expect you to write back as soon as you read it. I also hope that it’s helpful in some manner if it is correct.

Take good care and I look forward to your response.

Geocosmic Valentine
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posted December 19, 2007 06:18 PM         

A couple of weeks ago, I was speaking to my school-friends (we're kind of a click that consists of up to maybe 15 ppl, it differs) well anyways, my friends started talking about this other friend of mine (which they all knew, but unlike me are not friends with). So they start criticizing her, saying they don't like her much... I was SHOCKED. Because what they described as her bad traits, I either liked about her, or didn't mind at all. And so I told them, and they said to me that "but that's because you don't think ANYTHING or anyone's bad or evil". And it made me relize that it's not that I don't think there are people with allot of bad in them in this world, it's just that the one thing that I'm really good at is liking people.

I think that when people see someone smiling at them, or bending down to pet their dog, lend them some money for lunch, or just say anything to them AT ALL, it makes them feel less inclined to ignore that person. Because you've already made contact, and a positive one. They may think "you know what, that's a nice/interesting person I would like to get to know". Even if the reason why I'm petting people's animals isn't because I'm nice, it's because I love animals. And I lend money because I'm not really that good at saying no. And when I talk to people, I'll talk about anything, and if I don't have anything to say, I'll start talking about croissants or I'll make a joke about myself - portraying myself as having had a blonde moment or something like that. Now what I actually say is usually of no interest at all or it's really weird, but it doesn't really matter because everytime I open my mouth, that person gets to know me just a little bit better and contact has been established.

Oh, but you'll probably score extra points on talking about something you know interests them though. Like with the dog. People walking dogs usually likes dogs, so asking what breed it is + names + age + gender + blabla is a big helper.

Now there's allot of shy people out there, and I think that's your problem really. You don't have to open up sooo much to gain a friend. It's for the best, but not absolutely necessary. And it's not something that can be forced either. Oh as to the shy people... I don't know about you guys, but I've never met anyone who would say no to a friend. They may not always be the ones to come to you, but then you'll just go to them. Don't be worried that they'll not want you to be around them, because if you're only being nice and showing interest in them and who they are and what they like to do they'll definately like you. People are like that, they like people who shows interest in them.

Oh one other bit of advice, and I'm done I find foreign (or people that are otherwise different) people easier to become friends with because as long as there's something you don't know about their religion / culture/ country/ whatever, you have something to talk to them about. And they'll certainly appreciate the interest

Communication is key. And of course... ALWAYS BE YOURSELF. Or you'll be no fun;p

posted December 19, 2007 07:06 PM         

As far as giving off bad vibes..I never really thought of it that way. I am very sensative to the way I feel around people. I can pick up on a negative vibe as well as positive vibe's. I never thought that I could be like that. I tend to be extremely shy when I first meet people. Not very loud or out there until I can feel them out...if that makes sense. And yes, I have always had a nurturing side to me. Before my kids came along, I was that way with my parents...then when I married, my husband. (now divroced btw)

And my mom.. when I was little, she was the recess monitor at my school, the girl scout leader and at home it seemed like she wanted to escape. She had some serious issues that to this day I don't understand. I divorced a little over a year ago and moved in with my parents (mom and STEP dad). I know that I can be a needy person, but believe that my parents made me that way. They treat me like I'm a teenager still and it drives me nuts!

Kind of funny that you mentioned the writer part. Service Writer is my job title, but it has nothing to do with writing lol! I work in a shop writing up orders for repair of trailers...on a puter lol! But I do love to write poetry. Have had kind of a mental block in that area as I just haven't had time alone in solitude, without anyone bothering me...that's the only time I could write. And.. I always loved English in school. The only subject I seemed to excel in. When I was younger I wanted to write children's books. So...right on again!

And where you said I was re-building and becoming a different person.. This has been a wierd year for me. Just this past month I've been looking back at 2007 and I feel so different now then 6 months ago.. still tryinig to find myself after the divorce I guess.

And as far as rewards or dreams coming true.. I got a Christmas bonus! And I'll have my anual meeting at work so who knows, maybe it will go good! I'll have to ask my mom about when I was 4... I've blocked out a lot of my childhood, so I really can't remember much.

I'm about to leave work here, but wanted to thank you!!

posted December 20, 2007 05:19 PM         

IMPORTANT CLARIFICATION:

I just want to gently clarify that I didn't say that you give off "bad vibes". I don't believe in "bad vibes". My exact quote was:

"I'm not the kind of person who tells people that they are giving off bad vibes, but an eccentric presentation or intense way of relating to others could need modifying if you really recognize this in yourself, and possibly adding an aggression to how you relate to others."

I believe that "bad vibes" implies something that is out of our control where as a particular behavior is something that we do have control over through modification or eradication.

Thanks,

Geocosmic Valentine

posted December 27, 2007 07:01 PM         

2. Do get out more. Get into those associations you've always wanted to be in, because you know that there will be other people who at least have the same desire for the same associations. For instance, if you've always wanted to garden, join a class. There you'll find other people who also want to learn to garden, and you'll automatically have something in common. Other ideas: cooking, church, crafts, quilting, crocheting, yoga, pilates, exercising, toastmasters, acting, kiwanis (sp?), the masons , etc.