posted June 05, 2008 09:05 PM         

Bored at work... and while casually looking at some astrology stuff online, I found this great community and just had to visit in hopes that you folks might be able to help me with this "disability" I'm having. :P

Please note that this is a long post, as I'm trying to provide as many relevant details as I can to you folks who can help me without having to break it all up. I apologize in advance for the long read.

I'm a Pisces guy, born on March 19th, 1979, at like 2am. I still have a lot to learn about astrology, and I don't know anything other than that my "Sun sign" is Pisces.

I've been chasing after this Cancer woman off-and-on for about 8 months now, with varying illusions of success, to be followed by varying degrees of silence. She was born on July 21st, 1983, dunno what time.

I met her in... I think September, 2007, at a work-related occasion during a business trip -- I make frequent extended business trips to her area. We started talking immediately, and I felt as if she radiated a kind of warmth and adorability, even though she seemed shy and a bit reserved, I think especially due to her being with a bunch of colleagues.

Not long after, we started e-mailing, and talking on MSN, and then once or twice, late into the night. We've sat down for coffee, talked for like a couple of hours despite the somewhat chilly winds (during which I was reserved about asking her to come and sit in my car and talk because I didn't want to seem to move too quickly...), and had dinner and a movie together once.

After that time segment, it became really difficult to get anything out of her. She couldn't talk much on the phone anymore; more and more frequently she wouldn't answer her phone; and even online she was being reclusive. Please understand that I started feeling this way after about 5 or 6 phone calls and a few other attempts online to contact her over the course of like a month.

So I thought perhaps I was being too pushy. Not wanting to seem needy, I backed off, and only called her to say good-bye about another month later when I was returning home from the business trip.

After that, I've made another trip to her area. We chatted a couple of times on the phone and online, but she was always too busy over the month that I was there to come out with me. So I let it go at the time.

A couple of months later, I went there again. This time she seemed a lot more open all of a sudden. We went out for a really nice dinner, and talked so much that I almost couldn't believe there was so much to say between us. She was shy when I picked her up at the place we agreed to meet, but opened up with jokes and laughter during dinner and afterwards.

On the way back from dinner, I asked her to come over to the place I was staying because I had a bottle of chewable Vitamin C tablets for her working so late lately. I also managed to work in compliments about how "hawt" I thought she was and how irresistible I found her feminine disposition. She took both with giggles that I thought she had tried to control but simply couldn't.

I put the bottle into a bag for her, but she took it out and said that she was going to put it in her handbag and take it to the office so that she wouldn't forget to eat one everyday. She also ate one on the spot.

I told her that I wanted to try out this ribs recipe the next weekend, and wondered if she had the guts to try out my cooking. She asked whom I'd be cooking for. Again, I didn't want to seem desperate, so I said that a couple of colleagues may be there, and that it would be great if she could come too. She said sure, and that she would bring desserts.

After I dropped her off at her car, she got into her car; and before she closed the door I asked for a hug. She smiled, got back out, and hugged me.

So then the week passed, with us talking on the phone a couple of times, and me asking if she's been taking her Vitamin C, and also complained a little bit about work to each other. Towards the end of the week I left her a voice mail to confirm with her about the day I was making food and if she'd come. However, she didn't return the call nor answered a couple of other calls I made before the meal. She didn't respond to online messages, either.

I called her a week later to see how she was doing. She apologized for missing my calls, but she was busy helping her friends move; however, she seemed stuttery, as if she was making something up on the spot.

Subsequent attempts to contact her were met with failure.

What went wrong? I thought that she and I had some great times together, and I was planning for more. She seemed like such a great girl, both physically and personality-wise, that I'm hard-pressed to give her up. I've pursued 2 Cancer girls in my life so far and both had similar great qualities (beauty, brains, and personality), and I've failed miserably with both so far. I really want to succeed with a girl like that at least once.

My analysis is as follows.

(1) "She has found someone she's interested in." I don't really think that this was the case, because the same thing has happened before, last year, when we first met. Also, we've chatted about recent relationships and she's complete "un-taken" at this point.

(2) "She really -is- busy." But would it be too much to return a call?

(3) "I'm really too needy." This, I admit, might've been a possibility. I guess I'm just not quite good at restraining myself with someone I think is so great.

(4) I talked to her a little bit about sex during one of the late-night phone conversations in 2007. This led to a slightly awkward situation which I worked around by changing the topic.

(5) She actually does like me but doesn't want to get into anything because I only go to her area for business trips, albeit I spend more than half of the year over there. Maybe she doesn't want to get into even a friendship because it would be difficult for her.

(6) She was seeing somebody else at the time, and has found somebody else... but, both times? As in once last year, and once this time? Not that likely I'm thinking.

(7) She just doesn't like me that way; and once she felt that I -do- like her that way, she decided to give me the cold shoulder because she didn't want a relationship.

Just as a side note... I took care to not make jokes about her or her family in any way that could be taken as an insult. Sure, different people perceive things differently, but I was pretty sure about what I said.

Also... it isn't difficult for me to meet women, but there's a special type, one that I feel the potential for a fantastic, incredible connection, but have so far failed to take past the "barely friends" stage. This is why I still haven't given up on her. This is why I've come here for your advice.

What do you folks think? I apologize for this really long and perhaps somewhat soppy and whiny read. I'd really appreciate any comments, suggestions, or criticism that any of you may have.

Thanks, in advance!

posted June 06, 2008 11:17 AM         

It's just me, my feeling on this...could it be that she is seeing someone else? Someone who was inside her mind when she met you, and now this person came back to her?

posted June 06, 2008 11:43 AM         

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Also, Cancers can have strange reactions, plus depending on what's there in the chart, they can be attracted to the weird-anti-nurturing person, their opposite, like I'm a Cancer but can't stand people who are "there", waiting for me all the time, I'm attracted to the mysterious-cold person...just an example...

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Holy cow, really? :P That basically, like, totally goes against everything I've read about Cancer as a Sun sign. LOL! Very interesting.

As for her birthday... She was born on July 21st, 1983, but I don't know at what time.

Thank you for your reply, Crabplanet.

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Sun: Pisces
Moon: Scorpio
Mercury: Aries
Venus: Aquarius
Mars: Pisces
Jupiter: Cancer
Saturn: Virgo
Uranus: Scorpio
Neptune: Sagittarius
Pluto: Libra
Lilith: Leo
Asc node: Virgo

posted June 06, 2008 08:45 PM         

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yaosers,
Im a cancer female and...

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Heya seven!

First of all... How is your name put together? I mean, I see a "seven", I see "orange", and in the middle there's "eieght"... Was that supposed to be "seven-eight-orange"?

I'm sorry; I really don't mean to pick on you or be immature or anything of the sort; I was merely curious because I was trying to mentally pronounce your screen name and failed.

Thank you very much for the comprehensive reply! That was a mixture of both astrological and social intelligence, which for me, makes for an even more awesome read than either of the two alone.

I really have to let it sink in a bit before I'd be able to understand fully and ask the appropriate questions... but here's a few for starters, if you don't mind.

(1) From what you told me, it really sounds like I shouldn't stop trying until I get a straight answer from her. Am I right?

(2) I have half a mind to ask her out again, have a good time with her again, and then, at the end of the night, tell her about how I feel. I'm hoping that this would accomplish a couple of things -- a) let her that I'm for real, and b) take the weight off my chest about whether to keep pursuing her or not, because hopefully either way, "that's that", so to speak. Your thoughts?

(3) I also have half a mind to give her a call one of these days, and right now I'm not on a business trip near her. However, I will be there again in another week. For my Sagittarius female friends, calling to say "hi!" would just be awesome and stuff; but for a Cancer girl, would it be too much? Should I just wait until I get there?

(4) You basically said that she might also be seeing somebody else simultaneously. While I wouldn't utterly rule out that possibility, how would you think it could be explained that this happened twice, meaning, once last September/October, and again in April/May this year?

Thank you for your help, 78orange.

And as well, to everyone else for reading and all!

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Sun: Pisces
Moon: Scorpio
Mercury: Aries
Venus: Aquarius
Mars: Pisces
Jupiter: Cancer
Saturn: Virgo
Uranus: Scorpio
Neptune: Sagittarius
Pluto: Libra
Lilith: Leo
Asc node: Virgo

posted June 07, 2008 03:54 AM         

As another Cancer weighing in here, I must compliment you on the classy and respectful way you’ve wooed your Cancer lady. From what you’ve told us thus far, I do not think you’ve come on too strong. If anything you may have not come on strong enough. But more on that later. : ) The Vitamin C was a beautiful touch. I know you gave it to her sincerely without any ulterior motives, but I can think of few things that would melt a Cancerian heart quicker than a little doss of tender maternal care.

And no, I do not think she is too busy to call you. When a Cancer girl loves someone, they tend to become the focus of her world. Making time for them is rarely an issue. I think she’s retreated from you for some reason.

Obviously, we can only hypothesize as to why at this point, based on the information you’ve provided, so I’ll weigh in with my fellow Cancer sun signs and say my initial gut feeling is that she has her heart tied up with someone else. Have you two had any discussions about past relationships? It could be an old flame she keeps holding out for, or a new man that’s very on-again off-again. Her sense of loyalty and fair play would not allow her to lead you on if she felt there was a chance with the man she cared for. However, she also may not have the courage to come out and directly let you down (one of the great weaknesses of my sign is a cowardice when it comes to delivering emotional hurts to others – we avoid and run away instead of dealing with these situations directly).

But no fears, dear Pisces, I do have a few other theories. After re-reading your post a few times, I’m starting to wonder if you may have accidentally given her the wrong impression about your intentions. You’ve been so very careful, trying to make her comfortable, that you may have actually lead her to believe you just saw her as a friend, which would hurt her if she truly cared for you. It sounds like you tend to contact her only when you are in town, and when you invited her to try your cooking you made it a group thing. There is a chance she misunderstood your intentions to her, or perhaps she was just confused by what she perceived as mixed signals.

There is also a chance she has identified you as some kind of a playboy – the kind of guy that has a girl in every town (due to your traveling for work). While it doesn’t sound like you’ve done anything to encourage this perception, it is a somewhat natural conclusion based on your type of work. And sadly, I think this is exactly the kind of conclusion a cautious Cancer girl might make if she was getting mixed signals. Did you make an effort to keep in touch even when you were not in town? I couldn’t quite figure that out from the timeline you listed. Was there any prolonged period of silence that you initiated? If so, your Cancer girl may have retreated into her shell, and started barricading herself against hurt. As I’m sure you know, we Cancer girls tend to be very cautious in love, and it takes VERY little in the early stages to send us running for our nice, cozy shells. : )

Along that line of thought – did her first retreat happen shortly after that awkward IM discussion about sex?

Now, what should you do?

I think calling her is a lovely idea. If she does care for you, but has doubts about your feelings for her, a telephone call would quell some of her concerns. In all truth, you might even want to broach the topic of the awkwardness between you. Tell her you felt there had been a bit of oddness between you and you really value her, and think she’s a magnificent person, and hate the thought of anything silly driving wedges between you. I think that’s suitably un-pushy, complimentary, and direct… ha! But I’m a Sag ascendant, so take that advice with a grain of salt. I always approach situations directly and honestly. Sometimes TOO directly and honestly.

I also fully support the idea of you taking her out again and confessing your feelings. If she has feelings for you, it will take away her doubts and worries to know the truth. And if she does not feel the same way, it would give you both a chance to talk about it honestly, and alleviate all of this awkwardness and misunderstanding between you. Sounds like a win-win solution to me.

In closing, Yaosers, from everything I’ve read here it sounds like you have the right compassion, respect, and care to win over the heart of a Cancer girl. Your dealings with this lady have been ideal – so please do not feel you are doing anything wrong. There’s just something going on here that we can’t see yet. When it all becomes clear, you’ll either have her love, or you’ll understand why it’s not there, and move on and win the heart of some other dear crab. Whatever happens, don’t give up.

Wishing you good fortune in love,

posted June 07, 2008 11:45 AM         

But I really not always there when someone calls, but I always do try to return the call....except in the case of the random cute guy from the club who I exchanged numbers with last January. There are many underlying reasons I didn't return his call though. 1) I only got his number in the first place as an ego boost since the gemini I had been flirty with at the time was giving me mixed signals so I needed an ego boost. 2) I didn't expect this guy to call me anyways so it was a shock...I didn't know what to do. 3) Things were actually starting to go well with Mr.Gemini again by the time this guy called me again....like a week later.

Plus, like you, the random guy in question lived far away from me (like 2 hours away in Boston-I live in Rhode Island), and maybe like Isolaede said, she's not sure about long distance connections because of trust issues since you travel alot and such. Not saying you shouldn't attempt it, but you'll have to work on gaining her trust.*shrugs*

Not saying anything in regards to your cancer lady, but I'm just giving you *me* in that situation.

And maybe her mixed signals has to do with her moon/venus combo. She has moon in sag and venus in virgo and that could explain alot about why she comes off as shy at first, and all jokes and wittyness later. There was a theory that when a woman tries to attract a man, she acts like her venus and when she feels comfortable with him she becomes her moon. In your cancer's case, she's shy with you first (venus in virgo) and then all jokes with you later (moon in Sag). I know this because I have a similar very difficult moon/venus combo: moon in virgo/venus in gemini. So I'm kind of the opposite. I'm all flirty at first, and then I become the shy-Prudy McPrude-Librarian later. The cancerian sun only complicates things.

posted June 07, 2008 01:52 PM         

Heh, Isolaede, wow, thank you very much for taking the time out to write all that. I thought that it was both fun to read and informative, because there was an explanation for every idea in your reply. Also, thank you for the compliments; I'm not sure I really deserve them, because I simply did what came to mind that, I thought, would be the best thing to do.

Both you and Dulce Luna mentioned the playboy thing. Although as annoyed as I am with the idea that she might be thinking that way, I must admit that there is that possibility that my traveling could have that effect.

Dulce Luna, holy cow you could discern where some of her planets are even without her birth-hour? Heh wow I suck.

Dulce, I am not a "random guy" to this girl. We met during a cross-company meeting, and we had talked a bit online and over the phone before meeting again for coffee, and then again for a dinner and a movie. That was last September/October; this April was the nice dinner, and the Vitamin C.

I didn't really think that you meant it that way, but I just wanted to clarify the situation to ensure that your advice to me is not misaligned.

posted June 07, 2008 01:52 PM         

(1) She and I have talked about our latest past relationship. Hers was two years ago; my latest ended nearly 6 months ago. This was while I was driving. I felt that the evening was progressing quite well, and so I used the opportunity to say that I found it "almost unbelievable that you are without a boyfriend because I thought that -- and excuse me for being blunt -- you're really pretty hawt and that you have a feminine disposition which I find completely irresistible". She giggled madly after each comment, and I thought that the way she sounded was a good sign.

(2) At this point, she said something that I thought sounded like she just wanted to help her feel a bit less nervous and giddy, but what she said bothered me a little bit: "Well there's nothing wrong with making friends, right?" I didn't know what to make of that, so I just said something along the lines of "mm-hmm".

(3) I think that because I was driving, I didn't have the mental capacity to think to ask whether she kept in touch with her old boyfriend; and I really wanted to ask if she was seeing anybody right now, but didn't think if that would drive her away, so I stopped myself.

(4) I'm not sure that any of the above 3 items really mattered that much, negatively. After our dinner, we still chatted online and over the phone a few days before she cut off.

(5) The "old flame" theory is something that I have considered. However, I could not come up with an explanation of how this would cause her "having a good time with me then dropping off the radar" twice; once last October and again this April. Can you?

(6) About her thinking that I only see her as a friend... Gotcha; this was what you meant by me "not come on strong enough", right? At this point, I think that if she came out with me again, it would be appropriate to make something "just us", and so that is how I will invite her the next time.

(7) "Retreat" before or after the awkward conversation about sex? Well, I believe (although by now I can't be sure; it's been a while) that it was after that awkward bit of conversation that we went to the dinner-movie, last year. But, regardless of the order that that happened, she still came out with me this time round, right?

(8) Ooh! I remember now, that there was another business trip in between. Lemme give a brief description. So I was in her area last September to November, during which you know what happened. In January this year I went over again, but for just two weeks this time, and she said that she was busy, and we did not hang out. This April, I was there again, for a month and a half. We went out towards the end of April, and that was it.

(9) Keeping in touch while I'm not on business trip over there... Yes, we chatted a couple of times over MSN and I called her twice. Although I must admit that I haven't done too much because I've always thought that she was ignoring me for the reason that she didn't like me that way. I realize now that, whether romantically inclined or just being a good pal, I should have and could have called once in a while just to see how she was doing, and all that.

(10) Me initiating silence... No, never. I would never do that; I could never do that with her. :P I enjoy talking with her too much. It was always only after trying to reach her for a week or two weeks without success that I backed off, slowed down.

I have to say, I'm really enjoying this conversation. You girls are allowing me to spill it all when I don't have anybody within easy reach with whom I could have this discussion.

I also understand that I really talk too much and perhaps I over-analyze things. Hopefully, it doesn't bother you so much that you'd stop replying. This is so much fun!

posted June 07, 2008 05:23 PM         

I forgot to add... I am currently in a different time zone right now from her, so much so that when it's day time over there, it's nighttime over here.

I set my alarm to wake up early this morning (today is Sunday for me) so that I can call her and see how she's doing, on her Saturday afternoon.

I had intended for me to wake up at 8am my time, but for some reason (perhaps I was too sleepy when I set the alarm) that I actually set the alarm to wake me at 5am.

I got up, and saw that she had left me a few messages on MSN. The strange thing in all of this is... We haven't spoken for the last two weeks.

The stranger thing is... she had sent those messages only 30 minutes before I got up!

Hmm... Anyway here's what she wrote (I can post it all cuz it's short).
-> how are you? I got your msg late on the day you left....sorry that we didn't get to hang out much while you were here
-> hope all is well
-> ttyl
-> take care

The message she was referring to was of course the one where I told her that I was taking off...

Well I called but there was something wrong with the circuit so I couldn't get through (it kept telling me that the number I called wasn't valid), so I left her several messages online telling her that I had set my alarm to wake up and call her, but couldn't get through, and that I really really missed her, and that regardless of what she thought, I'd stay up a little longer to see if she replied.

She's probably doing a Saturday at the office right now; she only gets online at work, haha. So while waiting, I'm playing on my guitar and writing to you.

Thank you for reading.

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Sun: Pisces
Moon: Scorpio
Mercury: Aries
Venus: Aquarius
Mars: Pisces
Jupiter: Cancer
Saturn: Virgo
Uranus: Scorpio
Neptune: Sagittarius
Pluto: Libra
Lilith: Leo
Asc node: Virgo

posted June 08, 2008 10:19 AM         

i asked for the same in the other thread too but i think , you missed it . trying my luck again.

posted June 08, 2008 02:40 PM         

I never managed to reach her; and after a little while of waiting for her to reply to my MSN messages, she logged off. Presumably she was in a hurry to shut down her computer and didn't see my messages.

I'll write her an e-mail soon.

posted June 09, 2008 09:17 AM         

I told her that I missed her, and that I was heading over soon, and if we could talk and hang out some more. She seemed happy that I called, by the way she sounded when she said "hi". She said "sure" about hanging out and stuff, and had me let her know when I got in town.

But with what you all said about a Cancer's back-and-forth stuff, I'm not sure if that's a good thing or what.

posted June 09, 2008 02:17 PM         

Before I tell you anything else in my point of view though, I need you to know that astrologically speaking, Im more forward and a "go-getter" when opposed to my Cancerian kind. I have my sun and mars conjunct in the 1st house which makes me a little bit more aggressive and I realize a lot of things that I like/dislike and I act on it. I know what and who I want, when I want and however I want it and I do let that be known. For a Cancer, that's pretty rare because we are known for going side to side and back and forth and finally grasping at our desires. So even if I am somewhat a prototype Cancerian female when it comes to tradition (for example, I would NEVER seriously ask a man to marry me), when I don't want/do want something I will make it known to all parties. Your Cancerian might not be the same, now which is why I give you this little disclosure.

Okay, so now for your questions..

01. I dont think you should stop trying until you get a straight answer from her either, but you're a Pisces - use your intuition. This is what my Pisces guy-friend did. He was persistent in trying to "catch" me, but when I was quite unresponsive to his advances (not physically, we never did anything sexual - but when he tried make me open up with him) and I didn't respond, he let it go. He basically knew what was up, even if I didnt have to tell him anything and sometimes, it's just best that way. So being a Pisces yourself, Im sure you have that innate sense of when to stay and when to go.

02. I think your plan here sounds great. Personally, I like men who know what they want themselves and tell me what they are looking and are upfront about it. Also, this is about you - what would make YOU feel better? You are the one that has been confused for months now and wanting to now if she is worth pursuing so asking for an honest to God answer is not at all a bad idea in my opinion. If she says yes, then good for you and if she says no, then there is someone else out there for you that will make you happier than she will ever make you feel.

03. Sure, give her a call. What can hurt? You are not calling her 10 times a day are you? A little phone call to say hello is heartwarming and will let her know that you are thinking of her even if you are in a business trip on the other side of the world.

04. Im kind of confused by your questions here...what happened twice? Her being aloof towards you or her going out with you?

posted June 09, 2008 04:18 PM         

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Hi Dulce , so how are you ? whats new ?

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*AMBUSH* I've missed you, handsome. Gosh, we need to catch up somewhere...like by email or MSN or something. Me, I just finished school and Im at my mother's house for the summer. Have you ever gotten Acid-Reflux problems from eating Vindaloo? My sister and vovou (gramps) did last week.

And yaosers,

No, tis okay....thank you for correcting me on that. Everyone has pretty much said what I wanted to say in response to your questions but I want to add that if your able to make her laugh or if she's laughing at your every word, then that *should* be a very GUTE sign. I try my darndest not to do that anymore (virgo moon and dignity, you know the deal) but I would do that in grade school without realizing it when I liked a guy.

posted June 22, 2008 05:33 AM         

Sorry to bring this up again, but I just had ta. :P

So last Saturday night I gave that Cancer girl a call, because I had just gotten in the night before. I gave her the opportunity to tell me that she was busy or going to bed, but she stayed, so we talked for a while, before she was suddenly cut off. I left a voice message saying that I wasn't going to bed yet and asked her to call me back.

She never called back. But a couple of days later I caught her on MSN. She apologized for what happened the other night -- her phone had run out of power. I said that it was okay, and that I was going to be busy for a few days, but that I'd call her in a couple of days.

I called her on Thursday night, and I guess she was already sleeping. She didn't seem to mind, though, and I asked if she was going to be free on Saturday night, cuz I was making dinner and I wanted her company. She said that Saturday night should be okay, and I said to keep it that way, and she chuckled and said ok. Then I told her that I'd call and tell her how to get to my place when she's not sleeping, and bid her goodnight.

I didn't call on Friday because I was trying to solve a problem at work, and did not leave until 10:30pm. On Saturday (today), I again had to work, but I called her at 6pm to say that I was heading home and that I hoped she could make it. But she didn't answer, so I had to leave a message.

I called again at 7:30pm, but she still didn't answer, so I left another message, saying that if she couldn't make it for dinner then maybe we could do something else, and just call me back and we'll figure it out.

So this is what I wanted to ask you guys. I really want to talk to her face-to-face, and get this weight off my heart. I really like her, but it's hard as hell to get a date with her. I want to call her tomorrow and ask if she'd be down for lunch or something so that we could talk.

What do you all think? Should I go ahead and do it tomorrow, asking to hang out for lunch or coffee or dinner or whatever? Or should I wait a week to do it?

I probably sound a little desperate; and in all truth I kinda am. I've been chasing her for months, and by the history of this thread you could see what has happened before. I just would like to know how she feels, or if she's seeing anybody (other than me) at the moment, or something, so that I could either just give up, or be with her. In the sense that I just don't want to deal with this suspense anymore, I am desperate.

Please let me know your thoughts. Thanks a lot.

posted June 22, 2008 02:15 PM         

If I called today, I'd very much risk seeming desperate, right? And if I call next week, then I suffer that much longer.

Also, from past experiences, I think I could safely say that she would not be calling. This also makes me wonder if this is the kind of person she is -- that she just doesn't care enough to call. I understand that there's that Cancer shell game, but after a while, one has to come out and show the decency and just... call, right? I mean good lord, all those times that she didn't call me back, she was doing the Cancer shell game? I don't find that very convincing...

Happy Dragon,
Thank you for digging up those articles, some of which seemed to reside at your site. I'm actually not really an astrologer, but I've read through each article and had varying degrees of comprehension.

For the "Natal Venus square Natal Uranus", you're basically saying that she and I are both idealists in love who may have a problem with each others' or our own bodies, or that we find an insignificant fault within one another and then that's it for the relationship?

For her "Natal Sun square Natal Saturn", this means that she may be a workaholic and really good at whatever she does yet may be prone to self-emotional/psychological-mutilation because she might not think that she's "good enough" to take a break once in a while?

And I'm not sure what her "Natal Sun Square Natal Pluto" means...

And her transiting Saturn conjunct Venus and square Uranus... Your interpretations tell of a time of testing and need for clearly examining situations at hand, and not to make the mistake of lingering where one shouldn't, and also the benefits of introspection... Is this the right idea?

And stuff for me, according to Happy Dragon...

"Transiting Saturn conjunct Saturn"... This is a Saturn return to where it was when I was born, and indicates change and upheaval? Well, it's sorta true I guess. In April, my then-gf of 2.5 years and I broke up. Nowadays, I'm contemplating a switch of jobs and looking at a possible promotion in my current job...

The other stuff you gave me... Interesting reads, but they're more about me, so I'll get to them later. However, none of what you gave me answered my question, and that is, whether I should call her today (Sunday) or wait until next weekend.

posted June 22, 2008 09:51 PM         

I'm getting tired of this. I'm going to keep calling until she answers, and then get a straight answer from her.

posted June 24, 2008 06:07 PM         

Hey, you're totally right about that. Thanks for the wake-up call! Actually I haven't been calling, because that's the way I've been feeling for the last couple of days.