posted June 07, 2008 04:33 PM         

I don't think Solomon himself could put it any more fairly.

Spoken like a true Aries chick,

Xena

posted June 07, 2008 04:54 PM         

I offer, then insist on paying if there is a second date.

Taking turns is where it is at for me.

Even me and my gfriends do it like this!

posted June 07, 2008 05:10 PM         

Even after years, my door was opened when going into the car, when going into the restaurant, or out any door. 'Chair was pulled, he paid the bill or did the the act of paying, even if the card or cash was mine... and that would be it. The entire evening would just be about me being a woman and him a man.

'Thing is, in ordinary life, I am pretty in charge of myself so when we went out on dates (after work is over, after all the stress of the day is done) which we made a point of doing often, roles were shifted, I let my hair down and just became fully feminine - so to speak. I have found that all of the guys i have been with don't feel comfortable with me paying for things. They are not macho, but I do insist but it is as if I pay in secret because the waiter doesn't know that I paid that particular night since he took care of everything.

I feel good when they pay. They feel good when they pay. Well, this is to my experience. I have never been on a date with a guy who wanted to split the bill and I always, always offer to pay, and not as a bluff, but sincerely.

The thing is, I find it vulgar and tedious to be counting things on the menu, so I easily can go dutch just to avoid that moment when the atmosphere is broken by counting items on the menu.

Although not important, I appreciate chivalry. It's so rare these days.

therefore, first date; he pays. I always wonder why someone would take you out of your way, to go out on a date with them, and then turn around and demand 50%.

posted June 07, 2008 05:30 PM         

Business lunches, discussion times, asking for help, and "thank you" dinners and other non-date occasions are not dates.

Unmoved, I loved what you wrote. Totally awesome that... women with this way of thinking are still out there. Now I just have to go find myself one.

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Sun: Pisces
Moon: Scorpio
Mercury: Aries
Venus: Aquarius
Mars: Pisces
Jupiter: Cancer
Saturn: Virgo
Uranus: Scorpio
Neptune: Sagittarius
Pluto: Libra
Lilith: Leo
Asc node: Virgo

posted June 09, 2008 08:14 AM         

infact a couple of days back i discussed the exact same thing with a friend a we were both wondering where all the chivilry has gone!...

posted June 12, 2008 10:12 PM         

Gosh, what it's like to go out on a date with a woman who knows how to be fair and how to be feminine, and who knows how to feel good while being feminine, all at the same time. That's a combination I really value. In fact, I think it's as rare as chivalry nowadays, as Unmoved herself had claimed.

Just makes me feel so... good, going out with a woman like that.

Unmoved, what's your sign? Will you let me take you out to dinner after work, and then we can take a walk in the park?

posted June 13, 2008 12:28 PM         

yaoser - I am Virgo Sun, Cancer Moon, Scorpio Asc. Hee. That Virgo totally opposes your Pisces.

posted June 14, 2008 08:40 AM         

Wow, you are... a fascination.

I loved the way you said what you said about Cancer in this thread.

It wasn't exactly the information that you gave, but, really, the way you expressed those thoughts. Extremely clear and organized, and I only had to read it once to understand everything thoroughly.

What is your profession? Does that have to do with it? And are Virgo women supposed to be somewhat like you?

I've met two other Virgo women in the recent years. One's a nurse, and I believe that if I were physically closer to her more often, we'd be together, because we get along just fine when we actually talk (like a couple of times a year, unfortunately). And unfortunately, I don't know her well enough to know if she's got the same fascination that you exude.

The other Virgo woman I've known for a while was my ex-gf's roommate. Astrology as a reference simply failed with her, I think. Aren't Virgo people supposed to be sorta freaks in terms of hygiene and overall tidiness? Well, her towels smelled like days-old sweat, her dishes were sometimes left unwashed over a couple of nights (and not because she was that busy), and she used to leave bloody things in plain sight in the bathroom waste basket.

But then of course, I've never gotten to know another Virgo woman that personally before. Compared to her, my Scorpio ex-gf was the clean-freak. :P

I'm sorry to have brought up those disgusting things. Maybe I just don't know about the Virgo Sun sign well enough, but she was one strong reason for me that Astrology is just a usually-pretty-reliable reference.

I was a vegetarian for two years in my life. it was mostly for religious reasons (I'm Buddhist), but also a little bit for health. Mostly, I just wanted to be able to say that I have done it. But that was in high school; once I couldn't eat my mom cooking any longer (I moved out for college), I just stopped.

What are your own reasons for being vegetarian?

I'm fascinated by what I know about you so far. I would ask for you to tell me more about yourself, like tastes in men, tastes in food and wine, what kinds of books you like to read, what kinds of subjects fascinate you, your state of mind and styles and thoughts in bed, etc., etc., but I refrain because I'm not sure you'd be comfortable with sharing those kinds of details about yourself in a forum.

Rather than being like a bug under dissection, to me you're more like a painting, or statue, or some other work of art, that I just feel compelled to want to know everything about, including history, reasons for creation, artist's state of mind at the time, etc.

So, how might I get to know you better?

posted June 14, 2008 09:56 AM         

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Unmoved,
Wow, you are... a fascination.

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posted June 14, 2008 10:21 AM         

X100 to the 10th power!

yaoser - err... I'm not ignoring you. You have just taken me by surprise. *ahem*

posted June 14, 2008 01:37 PM         

There's nothing wrong with how you feel, your opinion is as valid as everyone else's. Whatever makes you happy . . . and when you find someone who feels the same way, perhaps you would've have found an intial match .