posted October 09, 2008 09:19 PM            

Also helps that I have Venus conjunct Mars in 3rd house Sagittarius.

posted October 09, 2008 11:55 PM            

It's not as simple as "he wants to bang you." My (platonic) Scorp guy friend has casual sex with girls all the time, then rejects them, but when he's really really into a girl, he doesn't sleep with her. Sometimes he ignores her and tries to "vibe" her.

The Scorpio I had the unrequited crush on (the one time in my whole life I inaccurately read signals) never has any casual sex with anyone (unless he does it in super secret, who knows?) To me he was acting like boys used to in high school when they were in awe of me and had huge crushes on me and were terrified of getting rejected...but really, he was not interested in me, and is (I guess), just a really weird guy.

"Going for it" means very different things to different people. As a Leo woman, "going for it" to me means that I sort of show off a little bit in front of a guy, until he makes his move, and when he makes his move, I don't reject him. To my Aries friend,"going for it" means touching the guy and leaning in to kiss him, whereas I have/would never make the first physical move.

posted October 10, 2008 12:14 PM            

"Going for it" for me means I will usually observe the person of interest very intently oddly enough sleeping with them is not high on the short list (at least not initially)my goal is to vibe with them in such a way that they try to figure out what I'm about.

It’s all about piquing their curiosity about me, make them ask my friends what’s his story... Why doesn’t he drool all over me like these other guys, Why does act like he doesn’t like me etc... All the while they don’t realize they are slowing falling into the web

What I usually do to get things going is like you mentioned earlier I basically ignore the individual, nothing cruel mind you just the subtle mindset that I put out mentally that says "I see you and yeah your good looking but so are all these other females". LOL

While all of that is going on I shoot the occasional piercing glance in that persons direction and probe them. I like to send my mental energy to the person and draw them in very slowly.

Remember most Scorps (but not all) are very subdued when it comes to the obvious tells, its all about what’s not said, its about drawing you in dare I say bewitching you. You will either feel it or you won’t.

Sometimes it can feel like rejection but in most instances its not its about the hunt. Your Scorp is probably into you but its most likely a situation of play by my rules.

Just my two cents.

posted October 10, 2008 01:00 PM            

My first serious boyfriend was a scorpio and he held back for a year as he was committed to his studies. I wasn't.

But two years later the relationship turned serious when he said, " I trust you". Scorpio doesn't trust easily. But, we both knew we were not soulmates or twinn souls but the relationship was deep and meaningful.

Actually, my first love I was 17 at the time introduced me to star signs and love signs. We were more like karmic soulmates than twin souls. We used to talk openly about meeting our twinn souls and physical immortality.

But, I have made a dear friend for life. We were both independent and had our own lives but the trust made the relationship special.

I knew we would never have children together.
What I learned from my dearest scorpio friend is committment and trust. When we were together there was no cheating. We were together for about four years. We ended drifting apart and came back together as special plutonic friends. That's what I like about him we can still be friends for life. But, it took some distance, dating other men before we came back as just friends. We were just friends for about two years before he became serious as he was committed to his studies.

posted October 11, 2008 12:08 AM            

These are our synastry aspects (me to the left, him to the right):

Sun BQT Moo 144° 44' 0° 44' +0.0
Sun TRI Ven 114° 22' 5° 38' +29.3
Sun SQR Mar 85° 32' 4° 28' -64.0
Sun SQR Jup 83° 33' 6° 27' -1.6
Sun CJN Sat 5° 23' 5° 23' -5.4
Sun INC Mid 149° 55' 0° 05' -30.0
Moo TRI Sun 119° 42' 0° 18' +1260.0
Moo TRI Mer 116° 55' 3° 05' +200.5
Moo TRI Mar 126° 18' 6° 18' +10.0
Moo TRI Ura 116° 44' 3° 16' +102.6
Moo INC Nep 151° 33' 1° 33' -12.8
Moo SQR Plu 91° 46' 1° 46' -166.4
Moo SXT Asc 61° 46' 1° 46' +137.7
Mer BQT Moo 142° 04' 1° 56' +0.0
Mer TRI Ven 117° 03' 2° 57' +112.5
Mer SQR Mar 88° 13' 1° 47' -240.5
Mer CJN Sat 2° 43' 2° 43' +10.2
Ven TRI Moo 122° 56' 2° 56' +166.4
Ven SES Ven 136° 11' 1° 11' -6.7
Ven SXT Jup 61° 44' 1° 44' +146.1
Ven QTL Plu 72° 49' 0° 49' +17.5
Mar SXT Sun 59° 07' 0° 53' +353.1
Mar SXT Mer 56° 21' 3° 39' +6.5
Mar SQR Ven 94° 34' 4° 34' -8.5
Mar SXT Ura 56° 09' 3° 51' +1.8
Mar SQR Nep 90° 59' 0° 59' -229.1
Mar SSX Plu 31° 12' 1° 12' +0.0
Mar TRI Asc 122° 20' 2° 20' +107.9
Jup TRI Sun 124° 59' 4° 59' +39.6
Jup SQR Ven 89° 32' 0° 28' +120.0
Jup TRI Mar 118° 22' 1° 38' +120.9
Jup QTL Jup 72° 33' 0° 33' +25.0
Jup INC Sat 150° 42' 0° 42' -28.9
Jup SQR Nep 93° 07' 3° 07' -24.3
Sat TRI Sun 116° 41' 3° 19' +99.7
Sat TRI Mar 123° 17' 3° 17' +29.8
Sat SSQ Jup 45° 48' 0° 48' -15.8
Sat INC Nep 148° 32' 1° 28' -6.7
Sat SQR Plu 88° 45' 1° 15' -85.7
Sat SXT Asc 64° 47' 4° 47' +1.4
Ura SQR Mid 87° 09' 2° 51' -16.6
Nep SSX Mer 28° 59' 1° 01' +0.0
Nep SSX Ura 29° 11' 0° 49' +0.0
Nep CJN Nep 5° 39' 5° 39' +0.4
Nep SSQ Mid 44° 47' 0° 13' -12.0
Plu QTL Ven 71° 02' 0° 58' +12.8
Plu BQT Asc 145° 52' 1° 52' +0.0
Asc SXT Sun 55° 12' 4° 48' +3.1
Asc SXT Mer 57° 58' 2° 02' +77.0
Asc BQT Jup 142° 19' 1° 41' +0.0
Asc SXT Ura 58° 10' 1° 50' +77.6
Asc SQR Plu 83° 07' 6° 53' -0.6
Asc TRI Asc 123° 21' 3° 21' +59.0
Mid SSQ Ven 45° 12' 0° 12' -4.8

His aspects:
Sun SES Moo 136° 20' 1° 20'
Sun CJN Mer 2° 47' 2° 47'
Sun CJN Mar 6° 36' 6° 36'
Sun SQR Sat 84° 19' 5° 41'
Sun CJN Ura 2° 58' 2° 58'
Sun SSX Nep 31° 52' 1° 52'
Sun OPP Asc 178° 32' 1° 28'
Sun QTL Mid 70° 59' 1° 01'
Moo SXT Jup 61° 12' 1° 12'
Mer CJN Ura 0° 12' 0° 12'
Mer OPP Asc 178° 41' 1° 19'
Mer QTL Mid 73° 46' 1° 46'
Ven SSX Mar 28° 50' 1° 10'
Ven TRI Sat 119° 46' 0° 14'
Ven CJN Nep 3° 35' 3° 35'
Ven SXT Plu 63° 22' 3° 22'
Ven BQT Asc 143° 06' 0° 54'
Mar SQR Sat 90° 55' 0° 55'
Jup SES Plu 134° 33' 0° 27'
Sat TRI Nep 116° 11' 3° 49'
Sat SXT Plu 56° 23' 3° 37'
Ura OPP Asc 178° 29' 1° 31'
Ura QTL Mid 73° 57' 1° 57'
Nep SXT Plu 59° 47' 0° 13'

Sun 10Sco39
Moon 26Pis58
Mercury 07Sco52
Venus 16Sag05
Mars 17Sco15
Jupiter 28Tau10 R
Saturn 16Leo20
Uranus 07Sco41
Neptune 12Sag30
Pluto 12Lib43
Ascendant 09Tau11
Midheaven 21Cap38

First 09Tau11
Second 09Gem03
Third 00Can54
Fourth 21Can38
Fifth 15Leo57
Sixth 20Vir18
Seventh 09Sco11
Eighth 09Sag03
Ninth 00Cap54
Tenth 21Cap38
Eleventh 15Aqu57
Twelfth 20Pis18

posted October 11, 2008 02:16 AM            

I was once in love with a gemini guy so much so that i never told him anything for fear of losing control over what i felt.I chose the pain of looking at him date other girls rather than losing the control i had over my feelings and become vulnerable.

I even told him countless times that i only see him as a friend even though i was mad about him.

posted October 11, 2008 08:09 AM            

hmm difficult to say. My dad has mars in scorpio and I know a couple of other guys who have that placement and they are tend to be completely obsessed with the object of their affection. My dad pursued my mother relentlessly. In addition your guy has sun AND mars not only in scorpio but in the 7th as well, so very reationship focused. His 5th house ruler the sun is also conjunct mars, so it is being energized.

posted October 11, 2008 08:27 AM            

Another thing just occured to me, thinking of the Scorp who rejected me and the way he thinks (based on what he's told me)--two people can experience the same feeling in very different ways. For example, two people can be standing at the top of a mountain, ready to ski down it--and their hearts are racing, they're broken into a sweat, and they're shaking. One might say, "I feel thrilled and exhilerated! This is wonderful. Woohoo!" and the other might say, "I feel terrified. This is awful."

So maybe part of the "If a Scorpio wants you, you'll know" myth comes from those Scorpios (not all of you!) who think like:
"When X comes into the room, my heart races and my hands sweat, and I feel like looking at her, but I don't dare. THEREFORE, I want to avoid her, and I am going to ask Y on a date instead, and start a family and life with her, even though I know I will never be 'in love' with her, because she does not make me feel uncomfortable. Maybe I'll never be 'in love' with anybody." Whereas, a Sag guy might think, in the same situation, "When X comes into the room, my heart races and my hands sweat, and I feel like looking at her, but I don't dare. That must mean I'm really turned on by her! I'm going to get her into bed right this minute, and try to get to know her to see whether she's cool."

Both of those guys, the one asking X out and the one asking Y out, are going for what they want...it's just that one has decided that he doesn't want what his body tells him to want.

posted October 11, 2008 12:00 PM            

When I talked to the Scorpio about his chart, he told me that he basically has a terrible fear of failure and doesn't go for what he wants. (I think that's about the 5th house Saturn square his Sun...yikes.) In the end, it didn't matter whether he had secret feelings for me or had NO feelings, because he definitely didn't want to be with me.

It just showed me that there are very different ways for people to "want" something, though. It creeps me out that this guy spent three years (on and off) with a woman he never felt "in love" with, but he decided to "make it work" with her because they could "build a life." (Things did not work, because of their sexual problems and the fact that the dutiful rather than passionate vibe he was sending her made her feel terrible, as it would anyone.)

According to him, he has never gone for or been involved with any woman he felt "in love" with. He's in his early 30s. It's interesting what you say, though, about that intense Mars in Scorpio energy, because I really felt like he was passionately pursuing me, but just in a game-playing way (luring me in with his intensity until I made a move)...but it turns out I was completely delusional.

posted October 14, 2008 01:24 PM            

I am an attractive, sane, happy woman and I have a wonderful scorpio man in my life.

This thread seems to have become a scorpio man bashing thread. Maybe it's not obvious, but to me, several of the comments here can be applied to any man or woman of any sign. No one wants to be rejected. Everyone wants to be in control of their lives and emotions.

posted October 15, 2008 09:45 AM            

And I wrote: "IN MY EXPERIENCE [emphasis added], Sags (for example) go for what they want sexually and romantically. Scorpios will sit at the bottom of an emotional well and refuse to notice that there's a rope, and they'll choose control over joy and human connection. Not ALL of them...but definitely the ones who drive otherwise attractive, sane, happy women to beg for advice on internet sites." You're quoting what I said about "happy, sane, attractive" women WAAAAY out of context, implying quite falsely that I think no Scorps are involved with such women, which is patently untrue. Nothing I said even implies that I am making a claim about "for the most part."

Nothing I said is a generalization as sweeping and spurious as "Scorpios go after what they want in no uncertain terms (and usually get it)."

That's just not true in my experience, and when I badly needed help from astrology, comments like this were misleading to me. I share my alternative experience and perspective because I think it might be useful for women who are struggling with mixed signals from Scorpio men who are very interested in them, but have decided to never go for them.

I don't think noting that sometimes a Scorpio will choose control over love, passion and fun can be equally applied to every sign. Ana's post is very illuminating. Different signs will look for different things out of a relationship. In my experience, the mutable signs are more terrified of BEING controlled than being rejected, and want badly to keep their freedom...in fact, Sag seeks out risky experiences and Pisces wants to dissolve his/her ego and merge with the whole universe...very different from Leo or Scorpio. A Scorp is less terrified to lose freedom and more unwilling to lose power and control...certainly, you can't generalize anything in Sun Sign astrology to every individual, but there are unmistakable trends that are useful to discuss. My posts were not meant to make sweeping generalizations, and I don't think they do.

posted October 15, 2008 10:05 AM            

For Scorpio, that's 8th house stuff--power, control, sex, death, deep intense research, psychoanalysis and personal transformation. For Leo, it's 5th house stuff--creativity, romance, children or childlike activities, and fun. For Cancer, 4th house stuff--family, security, making a home for him/herself. For Gemini, it's communication, short trips, intellectual/verbal stimulation and intellectual engagement with the immediate environment. For Sag, philosophy, higher learning, travel and adventure...and so on.

I do think it's generalizable (to a moderate extent) that people will seek out what their sign governs in romantic relationships. So, it's totally understandable that the average Pisces would be looking for something different than the average Aries, say.

Mature Scorpios are looking for a Total experience of deep, intense psychosexual transformation in a relationship, whereas a mature Gemini might not be...he/she might be looking for an experience of exciting, stimulating communication instead.

posted May 29, 2011 01:19 PM            

But for me, for what ever reason I just cant get into Scorpio men. They just dont do it for me.. I have met ALOT, but I never fell for one.. I have several male scoprio friends

I only went out with one briefly, it took him 2 months to even get my number.. We went out a few times, but I got bored with him.. I was gone (he has a scoprio stellium) Also I didnt trust him at all..

Scorpio is mostly in my 8th house, but rules H9..

Im talking to another scoprio with Sag placements.. Again I've been talking to him for a few weeks but I havent gone out with him, IDK I just cant get into him.. He annoys me, with the same questions over and over again..

posted November 06, 2011 01:58 PM            

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Originally posted by Lucia23:
I don't see where I've made any generalizations at all...I've shared some experiences with people I know, and I said "a lot of Scorpios" in one post, but not at all in the context you're quoting.

And I wrote: "IN MY EXPERIENCE [emphasis added], Sags (for example) go for what they want sexually and romantically. Scorpios will sit at the bottom of an emotional well and refuse to notice that there's a rope, and they'll choose control over joy and human connection. Not ALL of them...but definitely the ones who drive otherwise attractive, sane, happy women to beg for advice on internet sites." You're quoting what I said about "happy, sane, attractive" women WAAAAY out of context, implying quite falsely that I think no Scorps are involved with such women, which is patently untrue. Nothing I said even implies that I am making a claim about "for the most part."

Nothing I said is a generalization as sweeping and spurious as "Scorpios go after what they want in no uncertain terms (and usually get it)."

That's just not true in my experience, and when I badly needed help from astrology, comments like this were misleading to me. I share my alternative experience and perspective because I think it might be useful for women who are struggling with mixed signals from Scorpio men who are very interested in them, but have decided to never go for them.

I don't think noting that sometimes a Scorpio will choose control over love, passion and fun can be equally applied to every sign. Ana's post is very illuminating. Different signs will look for different things out of a relationship. In my experience, the mutable signs are more terrified of BEING controlled than being rejected, and want badly to keep their freedom...in fact, Sag seeks out risky experiences and Pisces wants to dissolve his/her ego and merge with the whole universe...very different from Leo or Scorpio. A Scorp is less terrified to lose freedom and more unwilling to lose power and control...certainly, you can't generalize anything in Sun Sign astrology to every individual, but there are unmistakable trends that are useful to discuss. My posts were not meant to make sweeping generalizations, and I don't think they do.

Insights from others personal experiences help me a lot more than unsubstantiated, example-free claims, so I'm sorry if some of you feel I've made those here.

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I know this an old thread, but I'll comment anyways.

I speak from experience as well. It sounds to me you are upset because this man doesn't want you the way you want him to want you. If he is really interested in you, you will know it and then it is UP TO YOU on how you handle his advances...whether those advances be "covert" or "open" based on your interpretation. SOMETHING made you think he was interested, so he wasn't afraid. You just dropped the ball on finding out what that interest was and how to handle it. I am married to a scorpio man, and there was never any doubt in my mind what he wanted, and that was me. I understood his signals once I took the time to get to know him. It's up to you to know how to make the most of the time given to you to get know someone. Don't blame him because you don't understand what he is doing. Take it for what it is. It's your decision to stay involved, he's just doing his thing. If you don't like it or understand it why choose to get frustrated and start making excuses like he's some sort of wimp who is afraid to take a chance on something he wants? What kind of respect would you have for him, what kind of respect do you think he has for your value, and why would you WANT him???

posted November 07, 2011 12:08 AM            

they try to control their emotions (even though sometimes its all obvious hehehe), act all calm when in front of you and will never really chase someone they like/love? until they've run out of time to admit the truth? Or they're just waiting for the other person to make the first move?

posted November 07, 2011 04:18 PM            

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Originally posted by heartstrings:
oh i'm intrigued! is this also the same for scorpio mooners (and venus)?

they try to control their emotions (even though sometimes its all obvious hehehe), act all calm when in front of you and will never really chase someone they like/love? until they've run out of time to admit the truth? Or they're just waiting for the other person to make the first move?

and yes, I'm asking all this cause I've secretly fallen for one

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I'm currently in a relationship with a scorpio man, moon in aries, merc/ven sag and mars in capricorn. It took him sometime to ask me out, infact, he semi-asked me out, I had to be the one to name the date and time. On our first date we hit it off very well and he told me upfront and straight that he really liked me and was serious about me.

I guess it is true (in a way) that if the scorpio really wants something (after calculating all aspects, all circumstances) they will go after it.

3 months into the relationship we are already semi living together on weekends, and I already have his keys. It took him a while to even let me into his place. His response was "Let me think about it..."

I feel scorpios like to put up a cold front. My boyfriend does that a lot - tell me that it doesnt really bother him, but I can tell from the way he tries to "test" me that it obviously bothers him to a certain extent. He tells me "I'm not suppose to tie you down" but in fact, he is going around being a bit possessive of me, probing me and asking what I'm doing, what I'm thinking, etc. Actually, I don't mind that at all because I understand it's his way of protecting me.

But one thing though - I haven't told him "I love you" yet and he already has. I already told him upfront that I believe love has to take time and be a bit deeper. He respects me and agrees.

posted November 30, 2011 09:28 AM            

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Originally posted by Beautiful Disaster:
He will tell you and will jump on you LOL and be prepared for questioning and interrogations.

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Hahaa, ya I definitely went through that, they will shine that bright light in your face and keep asking you until you can give them a satisfying response.