posted October 04, 2008 10:28 AM         

You're a Libra sun/Virgo rising?

If you know it's a transit...which will pass...then please also know that you shouldn't throw in the towel. If you really feel like she's the one, then wait til Saturn is 2 degrees seperating and make your move. I'm sure you'll feel much better then!

posted October 04, 2008 12:53 PM         

Point is, after years of random sexual encounters, I'm not sure if she expects anything real from me. I fear she believes that I lack substance. I need to show her that I want her for so much more than what we used to be.

posted October 07, 2008 02:21 PM         

I asked her if she has "other guys chasing her", and she said "I'm single." This type of response acknowledges my question, but it doesn't answer it. It is a semi-response that could lead me to believe that she is towing a couple guys around. I seek devotion, and competing with other men for one woman's affection are games that I have no interest in playing.

She won't answer or return my calls, maybe I've already scared her away.

posted October 07, 2008 02:42 PM         

EDIT: She's a Libra plus she's attractive. It would be unthinkable if she didn't have other admirers.

posted October 08, 2008 08:35 AM         

Interestingly, she gave me two reasons: her intuition, and my absurd "belief" in astrology.

She said she relies heavily on her intuition, and feels wrong about us.

Additionally, in the past I had mentioned my pursuit of astrology to her a few times, mostly when explaining my need for her birth time, and yesterday she mentioned that she can't respect my study of astrology, and she can't even give it enough "clout" to consider learning about any of it.

I really need to keep my astrology interests hidden. They've contributed partially to breakups before, but I think this is the first time someone's detest for astrology was a priority in rejecting me.

posted October 08, 2008 04:10 PM         

Strange, but after not seeing her in so long, she initiated our little cuddle session a couple weeks ago. So if she was no longer attracted to me, I can't imagine her impulse to snuggle up with me.

posted October 08, 2008 04:10 PM         

Interesting that you would mention Nodes...

My NN is at 5 degrees of Cancer. So, if all of these people on this thread are correct in their guess of her Asc being Pisces, her ruling planet would be Neptune, which would conjunct my South Node in Capricorn by less than 2 degrees.

posted October 08, 2008 09:17 PM         

I, too, know what it's like to have someone you adore give you either a glazed look - or worse, a contemptful look - when you start talking to them about Astrology. And I'm a novice, but I do mention it to certain people, and am often reminded that there is quite a lot of narrowmindedness out there.

About her intuition: she's entitled to be guided by it, even if you believe she's wrong. Intuition can be based on things that are intangible which are nevertheless important to a person. She could be feeling very ambivalent about you, which could explain the cuddle session and then the very different attitude weeks later. Haven't we all at some point in our lives felt ambivalence about a person?

posted October 10, 2008 09:21 PM         

If this didn't work out, it's because the right one is still waiting for you.

posted October 28, 2008 12:55 AM         

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Everything feels like a lie.

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SW, regarding what you and deux said about nodes, what does neptune have to do with capricorn? Doesn't conjunct mean the "same" Does neptune co-rule cap with saturn?

IMHO, if this woman is a Pisces Asc, it could be what Jugular said, the "runner". I'm a Pisces Asc, and yes, we are "runners" when we feel trapped or pressured by powerful feelings we may want, but know we are not ready for. I use the words "trapped" and "pressured" not in the negative sense, as if you are forcing yourself on us, but more like, we just know the strength and vulnerability of your kind of energy. Pisceans know the depth and passion(and passion doesn't always mean in the bedroom) of a scorpio and we don't play with it until we are ready and willing to handle the responsibility and power of it.

SW, if she is indeed a Pisces Asc, I believe she will return when she is ready for you. Timing may not be right at this time? I'm not saying wait for her, no. But if she circles back and you are still interested in exploring a relationship with her, then go for it.

posted October 28, 2008 04:22 AM         

Neptune does not co-rule Capricorn.

I was seeking guesses for this girl's ascendant. The popular guess was Pisces, which would make Neptune her Chart Ruler. DeuxAnteres mentioned Nodes as a means of her and I perhaps having divergent directions in life. So if her Chart Ruler is indeed Neptune, then not only would Neptune be of inherently special value, but it would also be of very particular interest in Deux's Node suggestions, as her Neptune conjuncts my South Node by less than 2 degrees.

I hope that explanation clarifies my interest in her Neptune.

To address another point, yes, Pisces Asc's are "runners", perhaps I experienced an overdose of this when I turned up the heat in my relationship with a "containment fearing" Sagittarius girl who had her Sun conjunct her Neptune plus a Pisces Ascendant. Nonetheless, I definitely got a sobering escape act from both that Sag, as well as the Libra for whom this thread is directed.

posted October 31, 2008 04:24 PM         

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And LetsDance, I definitely agree with the possibility of her returning to me. Although this chain of events appears very definitive, she has also been very shifty before (Libra indecision?)

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I think this is very Piscean. Often called "wishy-washy" which it can appear, but is not the truth. Pisceans look at things from so many angles and incarnations. It just depends on "what vibe" they are feeling that day and what experience (past or present) they are connecting that vibe to, if you can understand what I mean. It's not easy and can be confusing. Pisceans do want to make a decision. If for nothing more than the sheer freedom/liberation it brings to all. Pisceans are BIG on freedom--of mind, body and spirit. The whole enchilada.

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...so I'll never disregard her and always be open to her if she decides to return to me.

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I don't know how powerful the energy will be when you are both in agreement for a reconnection, so if you have moved onto another relationship, whew, heaven help you both. It could be another Taylor and Burton. I believe his final wife after Liz (Pisces), was a Libra. Combine these two separate, but similar energies(even in memory)...pisces female with venus exalted, LOOK OUT!