posted January 22, 2009 10:58 AM           

I'm a scorpio sun, and have always felt the description of scorpio is pretty true to my nature. While my venus in suave libra and moon in impulsive aries helps curbing my scorpian nature but I have the more wearisome tendencies when I'm infatuated with someone. That I become so obsessed with my own emotions that I refuse to let go of it and refuse to even mildly consider other potential love interests. Mind you, this doesn't mean that I am frank about my feelings, usually I'd try to convey my feelings to the other person in the most round-about way, leaving them oblivious. It physically pains me to be frank about the way I feel, leaving me vulnerable to the rest of the world.

posted January 23, 2009 11:27 AM         

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Mind you, this doesn't mean that I am frank about my feelings, usually I'd try to convey my feelings to the other person in the most round-about way, leaving them oblivious.

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When you do convey in the most straightforward way it would be a blessing to both of you. The person you love would be surprised, even thrilled. The potential is deep within, and can shake mountains. It is fathoms deep and total.

posted January 23, 2009 03:22 PM         

"When you do convey in the most straightforward way it would be a blessing to both of you. The person you love would be surprised, even thrilled. The potential is deep within, and can shake mountains. It is fathoms deep and total"

OMG, raj, I was just telling my scorpio this yesterday. He told me it is very hard for him to express his feelings. Yes, he has said many things, but I feel like either he's holding back, or maybe has nothing to say. That's why I was so surprised when he told me yesterday that it is hard for him to express his feelings for me verbally. It's such a bummer, because I have NO problem doing it very sincerely.

For me, telling someone what they mean to me and how they effect my love for them is so easy and liberating. If it gives them a big head and they get cocky, then that's on them. THEY can't handle it. But if they can just accept it and let the love I have for them embrace and shield them, then we both feel warm and fuzzy. I want them to have this confidence of my love and desire for them.

posted January 23, 2009 05:07 PM         

Uh, hello???

I don't mean to **** on this thread, but excuse me, I have to comment on that statement. The cockiness in that statement is disturbing my usual respect for scorpios.

"Intensely brave enough"? From what I've read, two scorpios can't even "take" each other "on" with any permanence. So how, oh how, are we non-scorpions s'posed to? What the...

I think some of you guys make your own misery and blame it on other people.

I've read that Pisceans live a in dream world. I think scorpios do, too. The difference between the two is that the Piscean can accept and love people as they are, because of their faith in the dream, and the scorpion will resent the dream because they may not be able to make it happen. The scorpion wants to make the person be what they want them to be, and if that person has any will or independence of their own, the scorpion may secretly despise them. This is sssooo wrong.

*Nobody is perfect. Nobody

posted January 23, 2009 11:22 PM           

i'm an aquarius dating a scorpio with the same stated placements as yours, matilda. let's, it's kina funny cuz i get what obe is saying, and i agree with you too.

i think the nature of scorpio is that it is very all-or-nothing, and this can interfere profoundly with aquarius' need to remain somewhat detached, emotionally, in order to *understand* emotions. however, there are a lot of inherent similarities between scorps and aquas; their fixity and commitment to what they believe in, for instance. i think your post illustrated the dichotomizing factor between the two signs, though. the difference between air and water is that air craves verbal communication and water craves intuitive/emotional communication. scorpio knows that words are just words, and that the meaning and feeling behind them are more important. aquarius is reluctant to abandon words because we fear going under, emotionally, lest we lose our ability to remain rational.

posted January 24, 2009 12:51 AM         

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What helps a Scorpio feel safe enough to open up about his/her feelings? And, how does a Scorpio show hurt?

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One thing that's tough for me as Leo with the Scorpios in my life is that sometimes I have hurt them without at all meaning to and without feeling anything mean-spirited...and vice-versa.

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posted January 24, 2009 01:56 AM         

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There are just not enough people intensely brave enough to take us on

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Scorpio intensity is total and some people are truly not courageous enough to accept it and to be pulled into it. At the same time, for some it is not because they are not brave enough, it is because they do not want such total intensity. Like Aquas for example:

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this can interfere profoundly with aquarius' need to remain somewhat detached, emotionally, in order to *understand* emotions

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What helps a Scorpio feel safe enough to open up about his/her feelings? And, how does a Scorpio show hurt?

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I believe in that respect, Scorpios are unpredictable.

Unable to express one's deep and intense feelings and unable to show, to convey that one is hurt, can be very tormenting, especially to Scorpios.

posted January 24, 2009 10:31 AM         

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telling someone how much you love them and what your feelings are is liberating,

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yet not easy for everyone. Some just cannot say what is in their heart easily.

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Nevertheless when this feat is accomplished, it is immense joy.

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posted January 24, 2009 05:39 PM           

I'm of a couple of minds with this subject. As a Taurus, I've dated more-than-plenty of Scorpios. I get concerned for the partners involved with them because sometimes that 'secretiveness' or 'holding back' is actually 'hey, I'm actually just not all that interested/I don't really like you outside of the bedroom/etc.' Sometimes it comes from a place of fear of falling in love, but I'd warn strongly against assuming that this happens more than the former scenario. Never forget that Scorpios are intensely practical- if it best serves their interests to keep their yaps shut, they'll do so, no matter what.

I've also been in some relationships where the Scorpio will set the whole thing a-blaze rather than get any deeper emotionally.

posted January 24, 2009 05:58 PM         

OK...You seem to have a pretty good grasp of the various Scorpio types.
I will act very interested if I am truly interested in someone and tell them exactly why I am interested!
If I am not, I simply be as polite as possible or try to keep my distance from them.
If they keep pursuing me...I will tell them exactly why it will not work...be it relationships, or just friends, of either gender.
I have actually oddly..encountered a few Taureans who become overly friendly too quick...desperately so in my opinion....when they barely knew me or I them. Some have come to bitterly hate me that I have met online because I refused to tell them where I live so they could visit me in person.
They persisted, even becoming nasty at my refusal (oh yeah..now that is exactly the wrong way to get a Scorpio to want a relationship and or friendship!)
I mean, these days it is just not wise to give someone one has met on the internet, and barely knows, (or does not trust or has little in common with) one's address, and say, "sure! come visit me!"
But usually only female Taureans (oh there was one Scorpio exception too) have been that way at me strangely.
Maybe you being a Taurean, you could shed some light on that?

posted January 25, 2009 11:45 AM         

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I get concerned for the partners involved with them because sometimes that 'secretiveness' or 'holding back' is actually 'hey, I'm actually just not all that interested/I don't really like you outside of the bedroom/etc.' Sometimes it comes from a place of fear of falling in love, but I'd warn strongly against assuming that this happens more than the former scenario.

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posted January 25, 2009 03:26 PM           

They don't have so much bees in their bonnet as hornet's nests under their hat. Yeah, they cling on all right - to sheer bloody fixity. Every time ex-Scorp-bf and I had a bust-up, it was because I didn't perform a set of actions in the order he intended them to be performed, so that things didn't go according to HIS plan (this reaction was due to his control issues). This led to him saying EXTREMELY damaging things which in turn led to me saying damaging things - you get the picture. With Scorpio and Aries it's one-upmanship, and if Scorpio just keeps on and on and on (despite Aries - yes, ARIES! - trying to get them to calm them down and be reasonable - Aries is actually slower to get p*ssed off than Scorpio), it becomes extremely difficult to be nice to them, and you simply want to squelch them or knock them on the head in some way. They will pounce on absolutely EVERYTHING you say and give it a negative twist, they absolutely WILL NOT listen or have a give-and-take discussion of any sort. They will state one thing as fact one minute, and the complete opposite the next. Aries doesn't have a generous patience threshold for this sort of behaviour (who ever said anyone OUGHT to?), and is likely to be eventually be pushed into a place where they simply don't care any more, get bored with the relationship and walk away. This guy successfully destroyed my love for him by being an idiot and extremely nasty to me when I was feeling very low and recovering from an accident. Despite having said the month before: "oh, you're an angel - I'm so lucky, blah, blah, blah".
Scorpios also don't give GENEROUSLY, but because they want something back. I had to explain that I wasn't big on gift-giving, but I gave in other ways - i.e. I give freely of my time to people I like. Or that if he wanted to know something (i.e. helpful fact) from me, he only had to ask. "OH." he said. "I have to ASK, do I?" Two weeks before we split up, he had been complaining about an ex-girlfriend saying that she "kept buying (him) things and it got a bit much"! HA!!
Half the time Scorpios shoot themselves in the foot because they don't really know what they want and live on their emotions far too much. I thought, as an Aries, I was bad, but Scorps are 10x worse! They are NOT good people. And yeah, I do think it is important to be a good, decent, just and relatively amiable and fun person (and I don't mean "fake" friendly, either, which a lot of Scorps, despite the fact that they might deny it, are great at doing - in fact they OVERDO it so much you simply have to get suspicious).

Just my thoughts. Sorry to hijack the thread. I am not so keen on Scorpios right now.

Love,

posted January 25, 2009 05:04 PM           

The males I've known will destroy a relationship before it ever comes to fruition if they feel they are losing control. No matter how much it hurts them in the process. They will make you suffer. I don't think they really mean to.. they just can't help it. They are always trying to sit on that intensity. They get caught in such a vortex of emotion that i
t comes down to the fact that they control it or it controls them.. having an intense, emotional, sexual, intellectual experience is just the thing to cause it. They have a special talent for bringing about exactly what they fear most. They realize that their love may leave them... so they leave first.. so they are not left hanging.

posted January 25, 2009 05:19 PM           

This time, however - I dumped HIM - he was getting too much, and he had dumped me three times before - and he is DEFINETELY p*ssed off.

Not nice when the boot's on the other foot, but at least we have agreed that we won't contact each other, and I think he realizes he p*ssed this Aries woman off to the point of no return. When an Aries woman expressly says, "Don't EVER contact me again" (in a serious, not desperate, tone) a male knows he's had it.

Curiously enough, my boss at my ex-workplace was born in the same month, same year as Scorp ex-bf, and one of his sayings was, "I make myself understood in every language by shouting". "Do you?" I said. "That's interesting. My dad (likewise an Aries) makes himself understood in every language by raising his drink and being cheerful and smiling. Everybody likes him!" - I think this illustrates the differences between Aries and Scorp pretty well. Aries does actually try to be a human being sometimes.

posted January 25, 2009 05:47 PM           

That's putting it simply. See, the thing is, when I decide on someone, I'd prefer if they just lay down their arms and give in fully to me, and if they don't, then I try to force the issue. I admit, it's pushy. And it's not right or fair, but we want what we want and we'll keep at it until we give up hope. I totally understand your pov, and it's possible you've come in contact with people who were a little bit...too much in this department, but the feeling in general is common (though usually to a lesser extent). I think perhaps an Aries could understand this, and in a different way, a Scorpio might. It's a very aggressive way of pursuing, but I think with Taureans, it could be about worth. I'm worth getting to know, and I'm worth initial effort right away. If you don't agree, then I have to make you agree that I rock. Simplistic way of looking at it, but it taps into a deep-seated fear that we're not good enough, if someone decides to put us on hold or delay us in any way.

posted January 25, 2009 06:35 PM           

"I'm worth getting to know, and I'm worth initial effort right away"

We should all feel that way about ourselves.
Self worth is so admireable

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