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posted May 21, 2009 07:16 PM         

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Thanks, that sounds hopeful.

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posted May 21, 2009 07:21 PM         

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Love is a smoke raised with the fume of sighs,
Being purged, a fire sparkling in lovers' eyes,
Being vexed, a sea nourished with lovers' tears.
What is it else? A madness most discreet,
A choking gall and a preserving sweet.
-- William Shakespeare
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfuTBFemn0Q

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posted May 21, 2009 07:32 PM         

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I feel like a tree
With no roots

Yet I know I am
Whole, within.

I'm letting go of the past...
What do I hold onto?

Where can I turn to?
Where is safety?

For not all
Can be found within

But exists in a series
Of interconnected relationships

Between the outside world,
The inside world

And each other.

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posted May 21, 2009 07:34 PM         

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Does all desire lead to transience?

We ache for the deepest love
We search,
But lust is empty
We search for the one who'll fit
Only to grow apart
And leave someone,
Or be left.
How can Pandora's box be shut
Once it has been opened
How can you calm the longing
Of deep knowing
In someone's eyes
Once you have caught a glimpse
Of how they can feel....
Do we torture ourselves
With the freedom
Of our modern world
Do we try to bury
Our true need within?
Do we twist out of shape,
As time goes by?
What happened to our innocence
What happened to our
Belief in magic
What happened to the tenderness
Of our open hearts?
Must we wave goodbye,
To fairytales?
Times are never easy
For the born romantic,
Forever searching
For something,
Never to be found,
And if it is found
Perhaps all is not as appears,
As it fades away,
Like another illusion.
But perhaps things
aren't meant to last?
Maybe, its all an experience?
So where is that love,
We really search for?
Where can love be found?
Is creation,
Just an illusion?
Or is there some endless,
glorious plan,
Higher realms, of
greater harmony
An endless experience
Into infinity.....
Then maybe, just
maybe
Fairytales do exist.

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posted May 21, 2009 07:38 PM         

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"The ones who make us sad are the very ones who make us glad".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3ATrQNFGfI

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posted May 21, 2009 08:10 PM         

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posted May 22, 2009 06:39 AM         

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I'm afraid LTT it is one of the facts of life that sometimes we are unable to be with people we want to be.
That is the fundamental truth.
We can ask the same question several ways hoping for a different response but the answer comes out the same.
You can not get to my age and not miss and still quietly yearn sometimes for people who didn't stay.
But maybe there was a very good reason.

I think this guy has made it clear that it is not yours and his time.
Of course you will still yearn for him.
If you didn't, it wouldn't have meant a damn thing.
It's very easy to spout the platitudes of "let go" and "move forward" but if you don't want to, then how can you?

But can I just say one thing that I gleaned from his response?
You are in the wrong place yourself for him at the moment.
You are still waiting to be "rescued"
I am not criticizing because I spent the first half of my life waiting for the exact same thing.

Where was the man who would gallop in and fix the bits of my life that were wrong?
I had many goes.
Most fell at the first hurdle much to my disappointment.
Some made a sterling effort until their facade fell apart and I realised that their heroic attempts were just a front.
Underneath they were just aa much as a shambles as myself.
One day I had an epiphany.
No one could "complete my"/ "twin flame my"/ "soulmate my life" until I had become my own all of the above.

It's as simple as that.
It can be lonely because we all need someone, and you are young and beautiful and loving.
Of course it feels wrong that he doesn't want that.
But you don't have to let him go anywhere. Just focus on yourself now. Stop searching,let it come to you.
When you are strong it doesn't matter if he's in your life or not at that moment, you can still love him
You don't have to try and forget him.
Just remember yourself.

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posted May 22, 2009 10:21 AM         

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I think some of what I feel/ felt for him was obsession, not love....but I know for sure that I do feel true love for him also. There's no doubt about that because of the vibe I felt whenever near him or talking to him. Then again, would I feel so intensely still without the added mystique that the distance gives? I just don't know. Maybe I'll never know.

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posted May 22, 2009 10:52 AM         

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I know why I love him. I already persuaded myself he wasn't right for me in the past. I was ok for a while when I had someone else, while it lasted....though I still thought about him. My psychology is playing tricks with me. I need to find a way to change the program. I'm clinging onto sentimental memories I have and of the familiarity of him always being around, where I go. It's like he became a kind of anchor to me.

Now he's not "in love" with me any more....but like it said in that newsletter and a friend said to me also....Love is what we ARE, not what we are in.

The illusion of this world sure makes us feel separate though.

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posted May 22, 2009 11:37 AM         

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other people are here with us for a reason. usually the ones we get close to are good hooks for what we can't see in ourselves. and sometimes we have to lose them and go to that place of self-questioning you are in to see that. i have not "graduated" from one relationship that did not illustrate that point...

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posted May 22, 2009 12:22 PM         

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I guess.

I think that the task/ obstacle I'm struggling with is that I feel that I need to keep a sense of romance about this world in order to feel that it has any meaning at all.

There's so much beauty in it, in life, nature and people....so I need to try, but why does it feel so difficult sometimes?

How does one stay strong?

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posted May 22, 2009 12:43 PM         

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I feel that I need to keep a sense of romance about this world in order to feel that it has any meaning at all.

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the same here ... and it's so hard!

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posted May 22, 2009 02:51 PM         

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sometimes we don't miss the person ....as much as we miss who we wanted them to be.

so many what if's. if i had done this, not done that...

i hope it gets better. relationships are hard. letting go is not an easy thing, of a person, an emotion, or an idea.

i wish you peace.

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posted May 22, 2009 05:04 PM         

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cpn_edgar_winner
I agree... it's often the idea of the person or the need for unconditional love that binds us to people. We can cast people in roles and expect them to act them out and then be completely disillusioned when they fail.
It's all fantasy anyway until you use direct open communication. I was inlove with a guy for years who I had spoken to like three times! INlove! And I didn't even know who he was, I just imagined him to be my Prince Charming!

LTT
What is Pluto doing in your chart?

Perri!
Hi!!! I have Mars in Sagittarius but it's not personalised.
Also Aqua Moon, Sun/Pluto in first house Libra, does your friend have any of those placements?

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posted May 22, 2009 05:51 PM         

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GREAT post Bunnies

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posted May 22, 2009 06:27 PM         

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Quinnie, cpn....

Thank you

Yes, you are right

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posted May 22, 2009 06:33 PM         

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posted May 23, 2009 03:58 PM         

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LTT whats your date of birth?

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