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26taurus
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posted March 31, 2009 01:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 26taurus     Edit/Delete Message
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There is NO REASON for you to have let it go this far without telling him outright, directly, firmly and clearly and KINDLY and probably more than once: "I don't feel a romantic connection to you."

Yes, there is Lucia. And I stated why above. We all handle things differetnly. He is not stupid either.

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There's nothing kind about responding to someone crossing your boundaries by passive-aggressively trying to ignore him.

Lucia, it's not quite that plain and simple. I could spend a few hours here writing everything out but I wont. I'm not passively-aggressively completely ignoring him either.

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There's nothing kind about accepting flowers from a man you are not interested in with a "thank you." Flowers in that situation are no gift--they're a question, or a demand, depending on how you look at it.

He knows what's going on in my life and passed the flowers on as more of a "hope you feel better soon' kind of thing. At least, that was the excuse. They were a little over the top. But also knew that I would call to say thank you. The day they were delivered are nights he always has off and he knew I would have to call him and then he could ask me to go out that night. Which he did and I realilzed what was going on.

He isnt as nice to other females (even ones he was dating) as he is to me. And i dont like that. He's put me on a pedestal for some reason and keeps putting me back up no matter how hard i try stepping down.

It's not as simple as saying i'm passively aggressively ignoring him. But I know myself and the situation, Lucia, you only understand it in a nutshell. Was I supposed to drive the flowers back to the shop? He, like other guys in the past have, would then pull the, 'it was just a nice gesture - i know we are just friends' thing. This has happened with him and others before.

Out of the one of two things that is going on that you wrote:
#1 Yes.
#2 I have a very hard time believing that. I've been quite clear. He's now taking advantage of the fact that i just wont come out and say it and thinking my mind will change. I don't appreciate that.

At this point, my next move will be to 'both do and say 'no'. Thanks for your advice.

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26taurus
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posted March 31, 2009 01:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 26taurus     Edit/Delete Message
I believed him when he once said; ' i know there is no chance (and laughed), but i'm happy we can at least be friends.' It's clear now, that he was just saying that and is still hoping things turn out differently.

It's good to write things out like this sometimes. Helps clarify and puts everything in perspective.

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ghanima81
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posted March 31, 2009 01:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ghanima81     Edit/Delete Message
I'm sorry you are in that position, T. It can be so difficult when you don't want to hurt someone else, but they are in a way causing you to hurt because of it.

Good luck with the whole thing, stick to your guns and know that it's better to just be as honest as possible.

I hope it can be resolved to the best way possible.

Ghani

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26taurus
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posted March 31, 2009 09:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 26taurus     Edit/Delete Message
Thank you Ghani. And all the best to you in your situation and life.

We are doing the best we can, arent we?

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Lucia23
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posted March 31, 2009 11:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lucia23     Edit/Delete Message
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Was I supposed to drive the flowers back to the shop? He, like other guys in the past have, would then pull the, 'it was just a nice gesture - i know we are just friends' thing. This has happened with him and others before.

Nah, keep the flowers, but use them (or gestures like that) as an opportunity to say. "Thank you for the flowers! I appreciate the gesture, but I wanted you to know that it made me feel a little uncomfortable, because lately I feel like you're interested in something romantic happening between us. I don't feel a romantic connection, and I want to just be friends."

He can say, "Oh, me too! I just sent the flowers as a frieldly blah blah blah etc"

You can say, "Oh, GOOD! I'm so glad, because I don't feel a romantic connection, but I love our friendship, and I just want us to be friends."

You say he's not stupid, and I believe it. I really think it's not clear ENOUGH that you're not attracted to him.

Another thought: it's sooo easy for men to put women who don't want them at all on a pedestal, because we don't exhibit ANY of the qualities that are real turn-offs to most men of all 12 signs--neediness, yearning, desperation. I know some women are ultra-independent even in love, but ALL of us are wonderful and "perfect" when we don't have anything invested in a guy. That's probably why he has a special pedestal for you with no room on it for women who actually want him.

I've attracted quite a few Taurus and Virgo guys who I loved as friends but wasn't attracted to (I have Cap rising and Eros in Taurus and Moon-Venus-Sat in Cancer), and they just thought I was soooo laid-back and gentle and sweet and wonderful. And I'm completely NOT that way with guys I'm romantically involved with--I get clingy and Cancerian and moody!

If the two of you did try to have a real romantic relationship, the power dynamics would likely change.

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26taurus
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posted April 01, 2009 12:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 26taurus     Edit/Delete Message
Perfect!

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sunshine_lion
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posted April 01, 2009 12:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sunshine_lion     Edit/Delete Message
you are a kind person t.

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