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Taurean_Scorpion
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posted July 02, 2009 12:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Taurean_Scorpion     Edit/Delete Message
I hope that you aren't tired about hearing about me and my aries boyfriend.
A couple days ago my boyfriend got out of class 10 minutes late because of discussion and he was pretty mad.
I actually got out on time and was waiting for him as usual. I was tired and hungry and wanted to go home. I checked the parking lot to see if his car was there in the usual places but it wasn't. I decided to take the bus home and was about to cross the street when my boyfriend called.
I told him I thought he was sleeping in his car and had checked in the parking lot but didn't see it so I decided to take the bus.

He said, in a mad tone of voice, "why do you assume that I had already left?" I said, "what do you mean I am assuming? I didn't see your car, and it was 10 minutes past the time your class should have ended so I thought you weren't here." His tone of voice just p*ssed me off and he was already mad (he told me later because his teacher allowed students to talk on when the class should have been out, and because he saw that I was calling him and he was upset he couldn't answer).
When he saw me he had an attitude and that in turn made me mad and irritated. Plus he didn't open the car door for me. His excuse was, when I later asked ("Why are you inconsistent with opening the car door...like you don't when you are upset") was because there was a car parked too close... Well he didn't even come on my side, how would he have known before I told him to back out the car.

In the car we were quiet and normally he would ask if I am hungry or would want to come over. But this time, like another time when he was mad, he drove straight towards my place. I told him, "is driving to my place your way of telling me that you are angry?" He said, "no...i figured you wanted me to take you home."
I don't know.... his way of acting was not nice.
An hour after he dropped me off he called me to apologize that he wasn't mad at me but because his class got out late. I still don't understand why he would be mad at that kind of stuff "enough" for him to take his anger out on me... I just find that unacceptable...And this wasn't the first time.
I feel like I am having to put up with his temperament and it's especially detrimental to me because I am very sensitive to my environment. I am bothered when he throws something or slams the door...I was not brought up that way and when someone does that I see that as anger...Or for example, when he cusses out drivers...it just makes me uneasy.
In the car he asked how my class went and I nodded and quietly said it was alright...apparently he didn't hear me and looked over his glasses and said, looking straight at me,......"I asked how was class?!" I almost yelled that it was OK.

I don't know....
This is personality difference and we have been together for almost 6 mos. now. We have talked about this already, and I don't know if I can see myself in the long run putting up with this kind of behavior. He's said, "well if you don't see us long term, why are we together?"
I agree with this now... I don't know what I am doing but at the same time I don't think I can deal with a break up at this time in my life... I have been trying to tolerate his inconsistencies and his temperament (which he says is unintentional)... but it's so hard to ignore. He asked me If I could disregard it because I understand he's not doing it on purpose? I said I can't disregard it.....He says every time we have a fight or something he feels I want to end it.
I can't say I disagree...I was very angry to the point where I wanted to call him and end it. I felt that would just be an impulse and refrained from doing that but still,...he stresses me out. The very next day I called him like usual at 11:30am for him to wake up so we could go to school together.... His phone was on vibrate and I called him like 8 times... After a half hour, I didn't want to miss class so I went on my own. These little things make me feel that he is unreliable and inconsiderate that I don't see us together for long... and that makes me upset... and makes me feel like I am wasting time...I don't believe in the love conquers all thing...I don't believe that I can ignore these things because of love... these things make me fall out of love... Is this normal? Or is it because I don't love him enough? I think that there is good reason for me to feel this way but to find his behavoir intolerable makes me think that I am not the type for a relationship or makes me doubtful about truly being able to love the opposite sex... I am not forgiving as I thought.

Cancer rising. Taurus sun. Scorpio moon.
he is a Libra rising. Aries sun. Aries moon.

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cpn_edgar_winner
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posted July 02, 2009 08:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cpn_edgar_winner     Edit/Delete Message
i understand. when you fall out of love you lose something hard to get back. he doesn't sound very thoughtful.

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comica23
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posted July 02, 2009 08:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for comica23     Edit/Delete Message
It's true that people don't change, so we can't stay with someone in hope that this person will someday finally change, but although people don't change, they improve. Either for the sake of the one they love, or for the sake of himself/herself.

But is this relationship that bad? Is this the only problem, or are there many problems? And what makes this relationship valuable? Are you overall happy with him? If so, then is this problem really important?
Well, it is a problem, that small issues gets that problematic between you guys, and it is a problem if he doesn't try to improve things to solve the problem together.
Oh well, if the relationship makes you guys overall happy, then give some time to try to work things out together, and see if things improve. But if it really become overall unhealthy, then you'll have to ponder of it's still worth it. ^_^;

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Lucia23
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posted July 02, 2009 10:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lucia23     Edit/Delete Message
In my experience, those Libra Risings plus fire influence, esp. when young, can be kind of a train wreck when it comes to sorting out down-to-earth issues like scheduling, showing up, etc.

I think it's really silly for you to worry you have some kind of problem being and staying in love with a man--it sounds like you're very young, and like this particular match is not necessarily about merging your daily lives together. There are all sorts of different kinds of relationships/connections...sometimes the ones that are most potent and transformational do not last forever in the everyday. The ones that DO work in the everyday need to bring a feeling of ease, inspiration, and well-being.

Remember that each relationship is unique--think back over your last relationship (probably not with an Aries/Libra, lol) even. The quality of feeling that comes up when this guy is frustrating or unreliable isn't going to be the same feeling you'll have for every guy in the same situation...different people bring out different responses in us and draw us to express different sides of ourselves.

To be blunt, I think you're not really feeling it with this guy anymore, even though it's not simple or easy or total...Taurus/Scorp/Cancer is not quick to move on if something isn't working, and that water Moon/ASC might lead you to turn your criticism inward (worrying you are the problem because you can't really love a man or some other bs...it's probably not so bad with just Cancer Rising, unless you have the Venus too.) You will feel many different ways about many different people, and right now it seems like the frustration/annoyance factor with this one is outweighing the passion and fun.

BUT I think I haven't read your other Aries boyfriend posts, so all my comments are based on this one little post.

EDITED: Ew, also...just noticed the throwing things part...big red flag because that often ladders into violence. At the very least, it's too unpleasant to put up with.

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cpn_edgar_winner
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posted July 02, 2009 10:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cpn_edgar_winner     Edit/Delete Message
what she said makes sense. if i am not feeling it anymore everything that person does will pretty much get on my nerves. all of a sudden he isn't clean enough, not ambitious enough, too much hair, too little hair, too sensitive, not sensitive enough....everything that was quirky and endearing becomes irritating and nervewracking.

you really know when you start blowing at the mouth. you know making those exasperated blow noises women make when they are just fed up.

you'll figure it out.

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cpn_edgar_winner
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posted July 02, 2009 10:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cpn_edgar_winner     Edit/Delete Message
i am not attracted to people who act childish throwing things and can't control thier self either. HUGE TURNOFF.. what are we five now?

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comica23
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posted July 02, 2009 02:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for comica23     Edit/Delete Message
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The quality of feeling that comes up when this guy is frustrating or unreliable isn't going to be the same feeling you'll have for every guy in the same situation...different people bring out different responses in us and draw us to express different sides of ourselves.

True true. It actually depends on what we know about this person, and mainly how we feel towards this person.

Well, in the long run, when that initial enchantment goes away, we will be more grounded in the reality and stop seeing our partners as perfect beings, that some of their traits will start to annoy us (we often don't see everything of each other 'till we become intimate anyways, and people are different anyways). That is normal thought. But just as Lucia23 said, the relationships that do work in the everyday need to bring a feeling of ease, inspiration, and well-being. So it's important that overall, the relationship is healthy and fulfills both sides, making both happy.
The initial enchantment goes away, but it's important that there's still enchantment in the relationship.

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Lara
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posted July 02, 2009 04:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
Aries sun/moon?

Eek!! How do you cope with your water?!

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Lyra
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posted July 04, 2009 05:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lyra     Edit/Delete Message
Um, TS, maybe you just need to cut him some slack. 10 minutes late is neither really here nor there, it's when it gets into 1/2 hour+ that you need to start worrying. Have a bit of patience with him, we can't all be perfect all the time.

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Taurean_Scorpion
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posted July 04, 2009 04:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Taurean_Scorpion     Edit/Delete Message
I really appreciate your responses.
Yes Lyra, I told him I would work on being more tolerant and I have waited longer in the past just in case he might be stuck in class but before, there were many times where he would make me wait and not even be at school and that made me upset.

I agree that I will have these kinds of, what seems like trivial problems with any guy I am with... and my happiness with him varies. At times I feel like I am at ease and it's nice but other times he gets to my nerves. He is very temperamental and defensive and I hate to say this but almost like a girl, not to say that girls like that but he's oversensitive.

I still think that he needs to be considerate of my feelings and keep his words on things I feel are important to me, like time.

As I write my feelings about our relationship, I realize the problems we are having is similar to what Linda write in her books.

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bunnies
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posted July 04, 2009 05:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bunnies     Edit/Delete Message
Oh I disagree Lyra.
10 mins slack translates into
"She'll wait for me" which translates into "I'm more important than you"
Punctuality to me, believe it or not equates to respect and love.
I can be on time for people that matter.
I make damn sure of it.

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Lyra
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posted July 05, 2009 08:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lyra     Edit/Delete Message
I am late sometimes. In London everyone is. Depends on how much you want to be with them - NOBODY is easy, whether they be the sexy "hard man" types or the whiny I-am-quiet-intellectual-and-caring-and-you-should-be-so-grateful-for-me types. They all pick fights and they all bang on about how much they do for you.
Pull them up for lateness on all accounts if it gets to you. If they're later than 1/2 hour just do something else!! Go out to a bar yourself and have fun, or watch that DVD you wanted to watch - or do the work you would have done if you hadn't been meeting him. Phone another of your guy friends and flirt with them, or get some attention at least. Etc. etc. Easier said than done I know. But maybe detach yourself from the situation a bit.

Love,

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Taurean_Scorpion
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posted July 05, 2009 03:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Taurean_Scorpion     Edit/Delete Message
I see what you're saying. I agree nobody is easy to be with and my bf has been making some effort but he's still an Aries inspite of everything. I think things get better when I voice my feelings.

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LetsDance
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posted July 07, 2009 12:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LetsDance     Edit/Delete Message
"I feel like I am having to put up with his temperament and it's especially detrimental to me because I am very sensitive to my environment."

TS, because he is an Aries, I would give him benefit of the doubt. If he were a scorpio, I would say something different. Arians are generally positive people and if he comes off negative or mean, it's generally the result of some provocation. Since he apologizes, that's a huge plus. At least he is acknowledging fault and doesn't really mean to hurt your feelings.

I do agree with what you say here:"I think things get better when I voice my feelings." This is the best way -- communication.

I can identify with your situation, though. I agree with some of the other posters, it really depends on what you want. If you know what you want and what you don't want, then make your decision and stick to it.

I don't mean to offend you, but being unstable in your mind towards your relationship with him will only confuse and frustrate you more. You may be the one who winds up getting hurt and he endures without a scratch -- either with or without you.

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Taurean_Scorpion
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posted July 08, 2009 08:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Taurean_Scorpion     Edit/Delete Message
I understand what you mean about not knowing exactly what I want and the instability I sort of caused for myself.
I think there was a lot of fault on my part too.
As such, I realized last week after our fight, that It is good and healing to open up to people and give of myself and not be scared of being taken advantaged of.
My boyfriend IS a good person and I can see how my not being completely open with him caused uneasiness in himself too. And that in totality caused misunderstandings, etc.
Thus after our fight, I actually cooked food for him at home and brought it to his place because he couldn't make transactions with his card and did not have food. I made sure he had food to eat for the next three days.
He thought that was really thoughtful. I have never done that for anyone except family... So this relationship I think is actually a plus to me and I think that I finally put my guard down for someone besides family. And that in effect is good for our relationship. I feel that our bond has gotten stronger because of that change in me, which also brought out a change in my boyfriend.

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posted July 09, 2009 07:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Peri     Edit/Delete Message
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I feel that our bond has gotten stronger because of that change in me, which also brought out a change in my boyfriend.

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posted May 21, 2010 03:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for HappyCap     Edit/Delete Message
sorry to revive such a long and dead thread but i just like reading the stories here

how are things now Taurean_Scorpion? i can almost relate because i use to date a Leo girl and boy could she throw a temper but it was rare that she did though because she was grounded (virgo moon). for some odd reason myself i am attracted to fiery people yet i cannot live in that instable environment for long. its as you say, i like someone predictable and reliable but a little flare in them wouldnt hurt. though i can probably understand the impulsiveness that your bf was going through since i have many fire in my charts too. i dont know if thats valid because im still new to astrology.

Cap/Leo/Cancer

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posted May 21, 2010 03:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for HappyCap     Edit/Delete Message
also, i don't know about you, but having a cancer asc feels like a burden sometimes because it makes me a sponge to those around me >_< kudos to you for putting up with it.

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posted May 23, 2010 12:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Diana     Edit/Delete Message
An aries will always (almost) have flares of temper. It doesn't even have to have anything to do with what you did, unlike what Lets Dance said. Aries is fire, fire is emotional and can be volatile, temperamental. It goes away and is forgotten very quickly for them, but a water or earth sign may not be able to forget it so quickly.

He'll always be this way. It's his nature. The nature of mars. The nature of fire.


You'd be better off with someone more earthy/watery in the long term because he won't change. You can't change him. If he had an earth or water moon he *may* be less like this.

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posted May 23, 2010 05:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SparklingSag     Edit/Delete Message
My ex was aries sun and venus and scorpio moon and mars. Eeek! Even for me Saggie sun, Leo moon, libra mars/venus, the scorpio/combo was too much.

I agree with the statement, "10 mins late translates into i'm more important than you". My ex used to mess me around on arrangements, be a day late to come and stay with me or something would go wrong etc. I wasn't sure either if I could put up with certain aspects long term.

Good luck with your relationship, I hope he treats you well.

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posted May 25, 2010 10:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MysticMelody     Edit/Delete Message
I know this is an old thread but I must respond since it's been dredged. Didn't anyone else notice that the guy was extremely upset that he had to stay late for 10 minutes, that it was not his fault or choice, and that he was extra worried because she was calling him? He was defensive... asked her why she just jumped to the conclusion that he had left after only 10 minutes and probably knew the answer was that he had done that to her before! Maybe she could have said, "Well, yes, I guess my fears got the best of me because it has happened before but I will try to have more faith in the future if you plan to always let me know from now on... I really want to feel safe in trusting you..." etc etc instead of just blowing it off when he obviously went through the angst of "knowing he was in trouble" when the teacher kept him late and she was trying to call him.

We either have to work things out with our s.o.'s or give up the relationship if they are not worth the work to us, that is true.

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posted May 26, 2010 11:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarrofVenusGirl     Edit/Delete Message
I disagree that punctuality says anything about how much you love someone. Sure, I will try my hardest to be on time for something/someone really important but I am very bad with time & that's just who I am...I will probably be late to my own funeral.

This guy sounds a bit like me in that he is hypersensitive to criticism or even perceived criticism. He may also be a little conflict avoidant.

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posted June 01, 2010 06:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nephthys     Edit/Delete Message
I didn't read all replies here but if you just take into consideration understanding the differences between both of your elements, it might shed some light:

HE: Libra Rising (Air sign, not as dependable as Taurus Sun Sign would like, who needs straight up answers, yes or no? what time exactly?)

Aries Sun: Fire sign (hard to hold anything inside, which would be unhealthy for Aries Fire.....needs to be able to express feelings, frustrations, anger, situations)

Aries Moon: Fire again! (Aries Mooners are sensitive! Compassionate, again here needs to express any frustrations or anger. In younger years, sensitivity towards self, in older years sensitivity will branch out to others)

YOU: Taurus Sun (extremely dependable and reliable and feels disappointed when others don't reciprocate. Calmer demeanor than Aries......more down to "earth". Expects more proper, gentlemanly behaviour from men)

[b]Cancer Rising (sensitive, watery, empathetic, might feel "victimized"? by his behaviour?

Scorpio Moon (very sensitive, intuitive, Ouch! don't hurt me!)

Neither of you are right or wrong in my eyes.......both of you are just made up of different elements and are expressing yourselves the only way you "know" so to speak.

I hope that helps maybe just a little bit? Sometimes once we understand one another's differences, it takes respecting other people for who and WHAT they are to a new level.

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posted June 01, 2010 06:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nephthys     Edit/Delete Message
Oh geez, old thread, how embaressing

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posted June 11, 2010 03:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Taurean_Scorpion     Edit/Delete Message
Wow...thanks for the responses. I haven't been on lindaland for a while. Been really busy with school and just had to go through a crisis.
Well...my boyfriend and I are still together. That's a good thing. I guess. :P but he and I still have our fights.
In fact,...we just had a fight like two hours ago. a pretty bad one.
The thing is, this time...I had enough of him waking up around 3-4pm every day for a month. We actually discussed this because of his sleeping patterns and how that was contributing to him being late to meet me, etc. And he got much better and we were having less problems about him being on time but this month he was waking up that late pretty much every day.
I was okay with it for a couple weeks, didn't want to cause trouble because I gave him the benefit of the doubt. Oh, he had work...oh he must be stressed out and tired.
But like he would go to bed around 5-6am...sometimes even later.
And during the day he would be sleeping and that would take up our "hanging out" time.
This month was seriously stressful for both of us, but especially me because my mom (nonbiological) kicked me out of the apartment and I had three group projects to do and finals was also this month. It was really crazy having to find a place to stay...
Anyway, several times since last week I called to wake him up around three. And then the third time I was pretty mad because he told me the night before that he would wake up at 11am...and the next day he was till in bed at 2pm. I thought he would've gotten the message. I guess he didn't know why I was upset?
But he already knows that I don't like him sleeping in like that every day.

Earlier today I called him a couple times at three and he was still sleeping...Then I texted him saying that he should wake up, that I'd like to think that my boyfriend is getting somewhere.
That got him mad....he seemed ok for a bit but when we met up for dinner, he brought it up and said he didn't like what I had said. I said it isn't anything new, and that that is how I feel.
He was driving rough, had a bit of an attitude, slamming doors type of thing that I really hate. I am very sensitive to those things. I told him if he'd like to say something, say it. Then I said I don't want to bottle things up with you, that that is how I feel when you sleep through the day like that. I said, who would like that?
He gave me a whatever. I was ****** and told him to drop me off by the curve and I'll walk home.

Sorry for the long post. I had to vent.
I just took a relationship class and we learned about how marriages succeed when a couple have more similarities.
I don't know. I worry about my boyfriend. I love him. But his grades are very poor, doesn't want to finish school, we're 22 years old, and has no motivation.
And the same time, he tells me he wants to be a doctor and go to med school. It doesn't make sense to me. I don't say much when he tells me this but I can't help but think well you have to start "NOW!"
I want to have a future with him a future where we don't have to worry about money. Okay, being a Taurus with a Cancer Rising...money brings me security and it's so important to me. I've been through SO much because of money and still am....it's created major stress in my life and I feel like money was a big factor in my mom kicking me out, but that's an entirely different story.
I am not saying I want to be solely depend on him but I would like that comfort of him being able to provide.

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