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JustAmanda
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posted September 18, 2009 07:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JustAmanda     Edit/Delete Message
Oh no AG...I totally didn't take it personal and I'm sorry if I sounded like I did. I do see where you are coming from...I think women have been trying to figure out man since the Garden of Eden...we haven't succeeded yet...LOL!!

Oh a totally random note, I just had the BEST Big Mac ever and that just made my whole day better! LOL!

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AcousticGod
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posted September 18, 2009 08:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message

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MsCandeh
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posted September 19, 2009 04:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MsCandeh     Edit/Delete Message
CPN isss hoarding all the men! :P :P :P What happened to sharing?!

I like the home depot idea... Never thought of that one... brilliant!!!!


Also, I read somewhere (wish I could remember where) .. that statistically 5 years after a relationship has ended the guys will regret ending it 5 years on, whereas the gals are happier with their decision (in general of course).

Interesting!!

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MyVirgoMask
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posted September 19, 2009 06:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message
There are lots of good guys out there (and lots of jerks too)
Same with women.
I'd say it's about even.

I'd also say that men are a lot easier to 'figure out' than women - we're the complicated ones, are you kidding? LOL.
Not saying that men are simpletons - and not saying that there aren't some high-maintenance men out there (I was married to one lol) ...BUT. I think the bottom line is in knowing ourselves better...as we do, and work on ourselves, then we begin to attract people who we actually like. Like-minded people who we enjoy.
We may still come across jerks, but I think I'm starting to realize that part of the point is knowing to spot the jerks more quickly so that you don't waste precious time

Also....I don't think the process is always easy... if you think about it, the idea of staying with someone for the sake of love and happiness is relatively new. People used to get together out of necessity. Now, we're being challenged because we have choices. And if you don't know what you want, then that means you have to think about it, and try, and make mistakes. And there's nothing wrong with that.

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JustAmanda
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posted September 19, 2009 07:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for JustAmanda     Edit/Delete Message
I am in a transformation stage, a major transformation...and it actually feels really good.

I think what I miss about having a relationship so much is just having someone of the opposite to talk to. Someone to laugh with. I think...I think that is what i miss the most about my husband...and I miss him hugging me.

I don't quite think I am ready mentally or spiritually for a "relationship" of love with someone right now, but I do miss having someone around if that makes sense?

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MyVirgoMask
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posted September 19, 2009 08:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message
Totally makes sense. I miss being married sometimes. But not to my ex-husband

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T
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posted September 20, 2009 12:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for T     Edit/Delete Message
AG , you know i love you, but you just can't understand us on this one. And no, it's not always the guy's fault. I agree about there being a lot of females that are like this too.

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T
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posted September 20, 2009 01:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for T     Edit/Delete Message
cpn, youre a riot!

it never fails to amuse when i go into Home Depot to buy some lumber, or a piece of plexi-glass, a new dremel part or whathaveyou...the burning curiosity kind of looks i get from guys walking around, like they are dying to know what the hell I am doing with what I'm getting.

i like it when a male employee comes up and asks if i need help and i confidently wave them off and say; no, i'm fine and walk on, like i'm there all the time and have a major construction project with a deadline going on atm; when all i'm really getting is a picture hanging kit.

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posted September 20, 2009 01:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for T     Edit/Delete Message
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go get em girls!

i feel like i just told a vacationer the best local fishing hole


lmao

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Glaucus
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posted September 20, 2009 01:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message
AG,

Thanks for expressing your views! It's greatly appreciated!

I am a male, and I am very complexed in my personality. I am very hard to pinned down and I get misunderstood a lot.

My relationship with Meghann ended because her mom is a man-hater because she got hurt by her exhusband/Meghann's father, and so she doesn't want her daughters being with men. She has physical/mental health issues,and so Meghann feels the need to be there for her and support her. Therefore, it was impossible for her to be with me.
It would have been great if her mom would have just been happy for her instead of letting her own issues interfere with her daughter's happiness.


I don't ever want to get involved again with another woman like that.

I also feel that because I am a man with strong feminine traits, I am not a good catch for many females. Many women want very masculine deep-voiced guys with big penises and strong sex drives that really know how to please a woman all night long. Many women are very materialistic.
Many do go for the bad boys consciously and unconsciously,and they wonder why they get hurt when they choose them over more mild mannered,gentle type of guys. Many men are assholes and treat women like sh-t to the point that many women have trust issues with men and think that all men are the same - nothing but assholes that can't be trusted. It just ruins it for many nice guys.

I feel that a spiritually oriented woman that is into the healing arts would be the best for me. Somebody who will even be my partner in my neuro-diversity advocacy would be great. Maybe she will be a neuro-divergent like me and so can easily relate to me,and so we can feel like kindred spirits in that way. If I could meet my future wife at my church that would be great. Maybe I will meet her a healing arts/psychic fair/festival. I know that I am not going to find her in a bar nor a nightclub. I am not into that stuff. I definitely like a woman that loves and wants to have children.

I also had more than my share of being played on by females in my life too. Many females play games too and not just men. I admit many men cheat on women. A lot of women cheat on men too. Research is showing that the gap between men and women are closing.

It definitely goes both ways.

Raymond

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"Nothing matters absolutely;
the truth is it only matters relatively"

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MyVirgoMask
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posted September 20, 2009 06:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message
Aww, Glaucus, I don't think it's true that women don't consider a man with 'feminine' traits a catch - certainly it depends on what the woman likes.
Most of my serious relationships were with men who had a very strong feminine side, who could associate with the feminine in general.
And you know, some of them were jerks too... which is interesting, because it just shows to me that a person's heart is the bottom line.
I think a person with a good heart is the bottom line . Maybe it sounds naive, but to me this matters the most: A good heart.
I've met so many so-called 'nice guys' who just pretended at having good hearts, but didn't at all when it came right down to it. They had ulterior motives and private agendas. They didn't care about me as a person, or about other human beings. They had shriveled small hearts which had no depth, and didn't have the ability to really LOVE on a profound level, or give of themselves on a greater level. It was all about what I represented to them, to better their image. I was a package, not a person.
I was a concept, not a human being.
They just wanted to say they 'had' me to feel better about themselves.

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katatonic
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posted September 20, 2009 06:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message
seems a few knowflakes have located a few good men lately...always encouraging! my own sister just recently hooked-up with a highschool sweetheart - in between he has been married over 25 years and raised two kids, and now divorced - she has been solo for 20-odd years and i NEVER thought she would give herself the chance to meet another man, but lo and behold!

there is hope for all of us. as someone told me when i was still a kid, there's someone for everyone...and what looks like a jerk to me could be prince charming to someone else!!

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Lucia23
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posted September 21, 2009 02:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lucia23     Edit/Delete Message
I think sometimes after a divorce or the end of a long term relationship, women very unconsciously protect ourselves when we aren't quite ready for a new, real relationship.

We gravitate toward guys who aren't quite right, or we send out a kinda off-putting vibe for a while.

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comica23
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posted September 21, 2009 02:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for comica23     Edit/Delete Message
Relationships that didn't/doesn't work out are often due to both sides, and when we can only blame the other person while not truly recognize our own faults (really truly recognize our own faults, and not just come up with "beautiful" faults), we end up not learning from it and end up repeating the error again and again.

But well, sometimes, relationship didn't/doesn't work out not coz anyone is at fault, but simply coz the couple is not compatible with each other.
It is important to be able to objectively recognize our own faults, without excuses nor excess self-blame (although it's kinda hard sometimes).


Glaucus, some girls do prefer sensitive guys better. ^_^ Well, my Pisces DC likes guys who are sensitive, caring and selfless, and it loves my bf's Pisces AC/Moon dearly. But then I never saw my bf as feminine - he can be very masculine -, and besides, being masculine isn't being all macho.

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Lucia23
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posted September 21, 2009 11:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lucia23     Edit/Delete Message
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Relationships that didn't/doesn't work out are often due to both sides, and when we can only blame the other person while not truly recognize our own faults (really truly recognize our own faults, and not just come up with "beautiful" faults), we end up not learning from it and end up repeating the error again and again.
But well, sometimes, relationship didn't/doesn't work out not coz anyone is at fault, but simply coz the couple is not compatible with each other.

Very true! And sometimes, it's not even that the couple is not compatible--sometimes the relationship was right for a certain time in both of their lives, and they were VERY compatible, and then moved on. I think short(er) relationships can be very valuable.

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