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Polo C
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posted January 07, 2010 01:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Polo C     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Polo I absolutely relate to what you are writing about!
And for doing your job heheh

Hey, thanx MsCandeh.

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Lara, from what I understand the TF connection is not the easiest of all connections unless you are both spiritually evolved and often involves breaks *shakes fist at EGO* ... usually the less spiritually evolved one running away from the intensity!

Ya know, I was just thinking... To pull this Twin Flame thing off, one must have knowledge of Self and then also live in accordance with that knowledge. Those who live by Ego also live in fear, usually because of some sort of unresolved pain and suffering, or perceived flaw within the Self.

When they unexpectedly meet their Divine Complement it likely sends them into a state of "Shock!" They feel the excitement and joy of being blessed with the opportunity, while at the same time they fear having to face the issues within the self that they have hidden from their awareness all of their lives.

They have a decision to make... Do they courageously face the fear so that they may know and experience unconditional love which also leads to a deeper understanding of God, or do they run from the opportunity because of the terror of having to face and reveal things about themselves that they had vowed to always keep secret, either because of their pain, or their shame?

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posted January 07, 2010 01:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So true Polo and exactly what my TF is doing

and i have no anger, no resentment; only love for him.
I try to be angry but it's not there!

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posted January 07, 2010 01:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Polo C     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What is it about him that lets you know he is your Twin Flame Lara?

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posted January 07, 2010 01:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PeaceAngel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Moving thread to Soul Unions.

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posted January 07, 2010 01:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Polo C     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Approval

Is it more important that your friends and family approve of the decision that you make in your twin soul relationship, or that the decisions that you make resonate with you and your soul? I ask that because sometimes the hardest decision we make is whether to please family and friends or ourselves. There is a fear that if we go against the majority consensus and things not work they will say “I told you so” or not be supportive. How many chances to be happy or to achieve something that is really important to us are lost that way?

Twin flame relationships serve the purpose of elevating the participant to the highest spiritual level that can be achieved. Thru a twin soul relationship you may achieve Nirvana. Problem is most people try to get there by a twin body relationship which includes egos, pride and props. Too bad they work for your ordinary short term relationships but get no where fast in a twin soul relationship. The twin soul relationship is a relationship that began in the spiritual realm of the soul and is introduced to the physical realm not to tease or to torture. but to show you what is achievable by connecting spiritually to another being. Because all things must be created on the spiritual/astral/higher plane before it manifest in your life the twin soul relationship becomes a true challenge for us.

The twin flame relationship requires us to be completely aware of the spiritual side of our lives it can not be addressed in the hit and miss fashion that most of our lives are treated to.. When you learn to focus on a event in the spiritual you realize that you have more control than you think over your life. The key is that spiritual focus connects you to the soul the author of your fantastic relationship also the one with the inside knowledge on manifesting your life in a positive manner. It then becomes like having the key to the front door of the bank and the combination to the vault and the legal right to use both as you desire. Unfortunately in this exclusive relationship between twin souls these guys, egos, pride and relationship props are not welcome. Just as thieves are not welcome in the bank vault. They have an uncanny way of destroying all that we have worked so hard for.

I have found that a body to body connection (Venus/ Mars) in a twin soul relationship is not very fulfilling, but a soul to soul (Eros / Psyche) connection, well that rocks. But you can only achieve that if you look to the soul/spiritual aspect of the relationship to create the physical aspect. Can’t create it from the physical inward that my friends don’t work either.

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posted January 07, 2010 02:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Diana     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I met my twin flame and I don't want a relationship with him. It's not ego, either. Sometimes you have a major connection, but you make a choice not to be with someone based on more important things other than the telepathy and connection.

Also, some times TF are off their rockers and you don't want to be with a crazy person.

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posted January 07, 2010 02:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Polo C     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I met my twin flame and I don't want a relationship with him. It's not ego, either. Sometimes you have a major connection, but you make a choice not to be with someone based on more important things other than the telepathy and connection.
Also, some times TF are off their rockers and you don't want to be with a crazy person.

Wait a minute, hold on Diana. there is nothing more important in life than your Spiritual Growth and evolution of consciousness. It's the primary reason that you exist! telepathy and connection is not why you decide to be with a Twin Flame... Those things are just byproducts of the experience. The purpose is what I just mentioned, the evolution of consciousness, your own, as well as the rest of humanity.

A Crazy person and a psychologically healthy, spiritually evolved person, are not synonymous. It seems you have been misinformed. To be with a crazy person would work AGAINST your own mental health and no one would suggest you do that.

I keep emphasizing that TF are not about lovey dovey stuff and how sweet it is or the romance. I say, just focus on your own growth, go as far as you can with that, don't worry about romance and then see what happens. Crazy people are crazy because they are in some way out of touch with reality. Spiritually evolved individuals seek to become masters of reality and reject all illusions and falsehood. Use that as a measure of who is qualified, not the telepathy or synchronicity.

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posted January 07, 2010 02:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Polo C     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Easy Relationships

I find that many people who are involved with their Twin Flames/Twin Souls grow “tired” of the roller coaster ride that the relationship sometimes takes. They abandon it long before they understand why it is a roller coaster ride. On many levels they know the relationship is different it zings them in the heart and the soul. But past that they expect it to take the same pattern and shape as every other relationship they have had. What would be the purpose of that? A twin flame/twin soul relationship requires us to dig deep within our inner being and bring forth the very soul from which this relationship was created.

If we refuse to do that then the roller coaster ride becomes unbearable. This is when we begin to seek an easier relationship. Even though the relationship does not require as much of us. Does it give us what we need? Or does comfortable bland become uncomfortable nothing. At which point we reverse engines and try to put passion, emotions and fire into the relationship. Either way you are going to work at the relationship unfortunately putting fire and passion into something that had none in the beginning may prove to be harder than learning how to manage the roller coaster ride which does mellow out but never becomes stagnant. So is there really an “easy”

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posted January 07, 2010 02:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Polo C     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Living in the Soul

The entire battle of self- actualization therefore boils down to one basic choice- simple but not easy- will you live with the mask or will you live without it? Living without the mask is a great calling- the highest calling- it is the path of Love- living in soul is the path of love.

Twin flame love cannot manifest without living in soul. It is therefore errant to imagine one could be united with their twinsoul without the rite of passage that love demands- which is: first to thine ownself be true (ownself here referring to soul) or as Jesus so eloquently put it- what will it serve a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul? People wake up- the time to recoginize and live with soul mind has arrived.

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posted January 07, 2010 02:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Polo C     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

  • Twin Flames embody the energies of Creation, Divine Masculine and Divine Feminine.

  • A Twin Flame couple is a cell in God's heart.

  • The shared Twin Flame or SoulMate heart is an opening to deliver God's Love to all of Creation.

  • God's Love comes to us every Now Moment in pulsations which sustain all of life.

  • Reunited Twin Flame couples feel those pulsations as ecstasy together.

  • Twin Flame couples not only deliver God's Love but generate new Love to add to God's Love.

  • The fiery molten Love shared by Twin Flames can actually melt the frozen hearts of humanity and help God return them to Love.

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posted January 07, 2010 02:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Polo C     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
THE TWIN FLAME HEART


  • When you come together with your Twin Flame, even in consciousness before meeting in the physical, you begin creating a shared SoulMate heart.

  • This Twin Flame heart is a powerful tool for bringing the world back to Love. Anything or anyone placed in the Twin Flame heart is brought right to God, and thus returned to Love.

  • God asks you to commit to coming together in consciousness to build this Twin Flame heart together, before coming together in the physical.

  • This creates a firm foundation of Love for the relationship on the spiritual level.

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posted January 07, 2010 02:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Polo C     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
THE HEART VS EGO

  • Why is it so important to build the Twin Flame relationship in consciousness?

  • Most relationships on Earth are ego relationships based on old relating patterns, fears and superficial judgments.

  • The ego always creates separation and represents what we are healing here on Earth.

  • The ego keeps us turned away from Love or being truly in our heart.

  • The SoulMate heart is so powerful that a couple must be committed to living in the heart and not the ego if they want a true SoulMate relationship.

  • Coming together in consciousness builds a foundation in Love and a real heart relationship, before coming together physically can bring up any possibilities of superficial judgments.


MEETING FIRST IN CONSCIOUSNESS


  • Everyone has had the experience we call intuition. It is a knowingness of the heart that bypasses the mind. Meeting in consciousness is the awareness of your Twin in spirit, in your heart, in knowingness.

  • The Twin Flame energy is so powerful that by focusing on your Twin, calling him or her to you, and sending Love from deep in your heart, you can quickly move into a glorious relationship in consciousness.

  • Soon you will feel the SoulMate heart you are building together.

  • Then, by agreement, you will begin working together with your SoulMate heart to give Love, not only to each other, but to all of life.

  • This returns you as a Twin Flame couple to the flow of Creation which is based on giving. What you give comes back to you, and your Twin Flame relationship will grow in amazing ways.


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posted January 07, 2010 03:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Polo C     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Twin Flames & God

Twin Flame couples must daily, even hourly, give their will to God, keeping their focus on Love and trusting God to carry them "across the veil" into perfect Love. From the Messages from God:

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"If a couple together keeps their focus on Me, they can shift easily to Love" "A Twin Flame couple is focused together on Me, for where your focus is, so you create; so you shall be. So ‘in this world' as the Twin Flames or SoulMates come together, the initial focus is on each other. But then, the opening of the heart this creates must be used to turn both people to Me, together. A couple giving together, focused on Me is available for Real Love, and the proof will be the feelings of ecstasy and the expression all around them of the one truth of Love."

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posted January 07, 2010 03:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Diana     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, i just used telepathy et al as one of the traits of the realtionship.

You are making the point that mentally unstable people can't be TF's, which is a bit ridiculous, since a lot of people are messed up in some way. That would eliminate a lot of people. Who are we kidding -- most people! The TF of said mentally unstable person needs to also be unstable, thus resulting in a perfect union, because then they won't feel the need to run.


I should admit that I don't like the idea of TF's anyway. I don't want to work on a project with my SO, a mission. I want to just enjoy the other person. Bring on the passion and leave the TF for friends, I say!!


.....maybe I am really looking for a soulmate....

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posted January 07, 2010 03:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Polo C     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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You are making the point that mentally unstable people can't be TF's, which is a bit ridiculouse, since a lot of people are messed up in some way. That would eliminate a lot of people.

Exactly! Most who say they are, are not and these are probably the same ones who have mislead you into seeing it in the way you do which is totally wrong.

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The TF of said mentally unstable person needs to also be unstable, thus resulting in a perfect union, because then they won't feel the need to run.

Twin Flames are not people who are perfectly matched... Hell two crack-heads could be perfectly matched, but they wouldn't be Twin Flames. Where do you get your information? Are you even reading my other posts? Twin Flames are individuals who have overcome the Ego to live by the Soul and then come together at an elevated level of consciousness in order to serve as shining examples of God's will. Only Sun's of God are truly qualified to be Twin Flames. TF are more about evolution than they are about match-making.

So yes, you are absolutely right! Most people would be excluded from this, but that will soon change in the world as people wake up.

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I should admit that I don't like the idea of TF's anyway. I don't want to work on a project with my SO, a mission. I want to just enjoy the other person. Bring on the passion and leave the TF for friends, I say!!!

You have to conquer what you still desire before you can even conceive what I speak of in this thread. It doesn't even seem that you are looking for a soul mate. To me it reads like you are focused on Ego gratification, which is fine, it is a necessary stage of the developmental process. Just keep going and keep growing.

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posted January 07, 2010 03:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Polo C     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here's something about Twin Flames that I know. When they are together the spirirual connection increases each individuals psychic power.

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posted January 07, 2010 03:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Diana     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You responded before I edited out my typos,

I am about to go to bed, so I can't really respond fully, but I will make a few points.

1. I get what you're saying and part of what you are describing with TF's sounds excatly like what I want -- an equal, balanced healthy relationship between two with the same characteristics.

2. Two crackheads could be TF's. They could be together to get sober and lead a healthy life helping others get sober.

3. You don't really know what I want from a mate. Assuming you do is very egotistical of you, which disqualifies you from being a TF. Sorry, but that is how that last part came off to me.You need to work on this. I am just stating that I don't want someone I have a "mission" with (which is what most people say TF's have)to be a romantic partner. It would seem too business-like to ME. It's not what I want from a relationship. Not everyone wants that.I've read that most TF's are actually platonic anyway: business partners, friends, etc. Who knows...maybe I am seeing TF's wrong. By the way, everything you write about is over the top romantic imo, so that may be why it turns me off too. I'm not overly romantic in the traditional sense.


Sigh, I know this is going to be taken wrong and I didn't really have the right tone when I wrote it because I am tired and rushing. I am not meaning to attack at all, and I am afraid how this post will come across. I'm sorry if you take it that way.

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posted January 07, 2010 03:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Polo C     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Sigh, I know this is going to be taken wrong and I didn't really have the right tone when I wrote it because I am tired and rushing. I am not meaning to attack at all, and I am afraid how this post will come across. I'm sorry if you take it that way.

Well, since you said this I will keep it mind as I reply.

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1. I get what you're saying and part of what you are describing with TF's sounds excatly like what I want -- an equal, balanced healthy relationship between two with the same characteristics.

This isn't what I said. What I said was that Twin Flames are more about one's level of consciousness than it is about the relationship between the two people. You want Venus/ Mars, but I'm describing Eros / Psyche.

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2. Two crackheads could be TF's. They could be together to get sober and lead a healthy life helping others get sober.

No way! Not while they are still "Crack-Heads" are you serious right now? If they cease being crack-heads, evolve and mature over the course of years, maybe even a decade or two, then, maybe, if they live by Truth and master Reality, conquering illusions and fantasy, they may be qualified, but not before.

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3. You don't really know what I want from a mate. Assuming you do is very egotistical of you, which disqualifies you from being a TF.

You Just Said what you wanted... Remember:

(I want to just enjoy the other person. Bring on the passion and leave the TF for friends, I say!!)

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am just stating that I don't want someone I have a "mission" with (which is what most people say TF's have)to be a romantic partner. It would seem too business-like to ME. It's not what I want from a relationship. Not everyone wants that.

Everyone needs the freedom to grow and as they do, their priorities change. Today you want certain things, tomorrow you'll want things that are different. If TF don't appeal to you today, maybe later after you get what you want, they will.

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posted January 07, 2010 03:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Diana     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I do believe two crackheads could be TF's if they had such a bond that they reached a higher level of consciousness together, enough so they kicked it and dedicated their lives to getting others to do so.

If this is not possible under TF 'rules' it sounds a little too elitish and snobby for my tastes.

You excluded my part about most TF's not being romantically linked, but platonic....why is that?

You do not know what I want. What I said was very tongue in cheek.


Didn't eros abduct psyche and forbid her to see the real him?? How is that honest and spiritual. It goes against all that is written about TF's. Maybe I am messing up my mythology here, it's been known to happen, because I am bad at mythology. If I am right, I think he actually killed her sisters or they died....

now I must go to bed! I will be back tomorrow.

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posted January 07, 2010 04:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Polo C     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted January 07, 2010 05:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Polo C     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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What if a twinflame or soulmate is in love with someone who is attracted to the same sex but the twinflame/soulmate themselve is the opposite sex?

How did you come to conclude that the person was your Twin Flame, your attraction to them? Attraction alone, no matter how intense, is no clear indication of that.

With that said I would like to remind you that the entire point of life is to "Learn." The more extreme the experience, the greater the lesson one can extract from it. In the situation you explained I would say... explore it. discover what you can learn from it, no matter the pain nor the pleasure, the win or the loss, you will still learn something new and that's the purpose.

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posted January 07, 2010 06:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Polo C     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Edgar Cayce on Spiritual Soul Mates

Almost every person feels a longing for companionship. At times we may understand this desire as a directive toward union with God, and at other times, as a desire for union with another person.

Two ideas come together in the material from the Edgar Cayce readings concerning the choice of a companion-particularly a life partner. First is the principle that we are here in the earth for the purpose of growth and development in consciousness. What is more, associations with some individuals are more conducive to growth than associations with others; therefore, it is prudent to choose carefully our companions. This principle is probably easy for us to accept if we merely reflect on the types of influence various friends and acquaintances have had on us in the past. The impact is most powerful in a marriage relationship, and a good union should be founded upon a shared purpose in life and the capacity to help each other to grow.

What, then, is a soul mate? Is it the soul that one has married in the most incarnations? Frequency of marriage may be one factor because, according to Cayce, status as soul mates is built by shared physical experiences over a long period. However, a more precise understanding is this: A soul mate is a complement to oneself. One reading poetically describes it as "the tongue to the groove, the tenon to the mortise..." (1556-2) It is more than merely a physical attraction; it is a capacity to help each other at the physical, mental, and spiritual levels.

http://www.experiencefestival.com/a/Soul_Mates/id/22007

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posted January 07, 2010 06:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Polo C     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Soul Mates: Two people linked through past lives.

For many years, I was one of the all-time great skeptics of the phenomenon known as "Soul Mates." I knew of many couples who were self-proclaimed soul mates who dissolved their relationship after a few years, and the reasons given seemed shallow to me at best. I've studied several definitions, and my understanding of soul mates is that these are two people who have been linked through past lives, and their essential nature is such that they compliment each other. What one lacks, the other tends to bring out, and vice versa. When they are together, they expedite each other's soul growth simply by being themselves. The esoteric reasons for this phenomenon are varied, and I won't pursue them here.

Many people are interested in finding their soul mate and I'm often asked how to make this occur. After having my previous skepticism shattered by encountering my own soul mate, I now understand why it's such a production. Attracting one's soul mate seems to involve considerable work on one's own soul. Logical, huh? Finding and being with the soul mate doesn't seem to make the process stop, in fact it just keeps going and going.

What makes this difficult is the fact that working on one's soul involves giving the ego a back seat. This means a willingness to be wrong, letting go of fondly held preconceived ideas and being able to put the needs of one's soul ahead of cultural requirements. This is just what happens before a soul mate can enter the picture. It seems that one has to accept love based simply on who you are, not what you do, how you think or what you look like (or any of the myriad other things we feel we must do/have to be loved). After that has been accomplished, it seems to be necessary to be able to perceive the lovability in everyone, no matter what.

Making a life with a soul mate requires big steps beyond egoistic needs. I've found that it's easiest if one assumes that you're in it for the duration and that anything that comes up is for the Higher Good of both of you. No matter what "roles" either of you may be accustomed to assuming in a relationship, they may need to be changed. If you're used to being passive, get ready to take charge. If you're comfortable being a teacher, learn to be a student.

Obviously, this is a very abridged version of the nature of a soul mate relationship. In my opinion the difficulty in bringing your soul mate into your life is that at a subconscious level, we realize the ego sacrifices which must be made and avoid them. We may hear a lot about how wonderful such a relationship can be, and I believe that this can't be overstated. It's incredible, marvelous, wonderful and heavenly. If we want it though, the work on Self must be done.

http://www.experiencefestival.com/a/Soul_Mates/id/21922

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posted January 07, 2010 06:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MsCandeh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Polo

Thanks for posting all this.. the topic is very close to my heart and I know a lot of people don't agree, but it's a belief of mine.

I first started looking at Twin Flames before I even knew what the idea was surrounding that

I believe I have found mine. This is just my belief. I don't know if we will be together in this lifetime due to EGO.. A lot of things have happened that would indicate we are. And I am not sad if we don't end up together now. I believe we have a lot of soul work to do together though.

One thing ... we are very psychically linked, just like you said Polo I believe both our psychic awareness has increased since getting to know each other.

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