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posted January 07, 2010 06:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
We are looking at Twin Flames and Soulmates linearly. Let us not forget that our Souls are hundreds of billions of Earth years old, much older than the present Universe.
According to tantric lore, there are dimensions where twin flames are bonded in acts of sex for millions of earth years, their orgasmic energies creating galaxies upon galaxies.

A few cross connections/offshoots from the advanced dimensions are vacationing on Earth, playing a game of reunion and ability to love unconditionally after a memory erase. So with this perspective, same sex or platonic relationships for twin flames etc etc just do not matter.

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_V_ I feel like an idiot

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posted January 07, 2010 07:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MsCandeh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Someone on LL (I'm really sorry but I can't remember who) forwarded this link to me. It's an excerpt from Steven Gunn's book - a story about the twin soul running issue
SOUL SHOCK - The real soulmate phenomenon

And a really lovely Twin Flames site with twin flame article excerpts
What Are Twin Flames? - Weebly Site

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posted January 07, 2010 07:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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What is it about him that lets you know he is your Twin Flame Lara?

his entire being. I just knew it from the beginning. I felt it, saw it, am it.

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posted January 07, 2010 07:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dear me, page 2 is a mess!

LOL

TF's have passion! It is not rip your clothes off passion though; it is passion in its entirety on all levels.

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posted January 07, 2010 07:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MsCandeh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lara

Just as I posted the links my TF messaged me. This is the first time in 3 months he has messaged me on MSN after work hours lol .. psychic connection

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posted January 07, 2010 09:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mermaid26     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Polo, I concur with much of what you have conveyed. When one does their own "work" of ascending beyond his or her EGO, many wonderful and painful things begin to transpire. Personally, Envy and Fear are my greatest demons and it is a continuous battle/work in progress. Hence FAITH is a powerful weapon indeed. I try to void the negative voice in my head with a double expression of positive thoughts. The light must shine on the shadow aspects of the soul so that one can know and love their entire being with unconditional "higher self" love. Service to others is a great expression of LOVE. Service freely given with no expectations of reward yields tremendous rewards. I always used to have MY own expectations...no longer...I am allowing universal law to work. Oh to be like the "Velveteen Rabbit" and become REAL. I do so relate.

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posted January 07, 2010 09:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Polo,

"No way! Not while they are still "Crack-Heads" are you serious right now? If they cease being crack-heads, evolve and mature over the course of years, maybe even a decade or two, then, maybe, if they live by Truth and master Reality, conquering illusions and fantasy, they may be qualified, but not before. "

So according to your words twinflames is something you can BECOME, something you EARN, but not ARE from the beginning.

This doesn`T fit well with Twinflames being created from the same spark during the creation.


What I could understand though is that these people you mentioned may not be mature or conscious enough to meet their twinflame in this life, but that doesn`t mean they don`t have a twinflame.

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posted January 07, 2010 10:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
MsCandeh - amazing!! Psychic connection is really something else in TF relationships. My psyche is exact cj my TF's AC


DD - great post!

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posted January 07, 2010 10:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks, Lara.

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posted January 07, 2010 12:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MsCandeh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lara you should see the connections between our DR and natal!

His DR Psyche conj my natal Psyche with a 30 min orb is one of many.
I just found something new. His DR Telephus is conj my natal Jupiter/Neptune midpoint.
I swear he can read my mind.
He brought me a key on Monday (I already had one and have since I started the job) for no real reason.. he had the master key for the offices and since he doesn't work in my building anymore he was dropping it off - (but he hasn't been there since October!) - what was freaky about it is that it was the first day back at work after Xmas break and I must have lost my office key over the break .. but I didn't realise .. we walked back to my office which happened to be locked.. and I was looking for my key .. nowhere. Thank goodness he was there! I can't find it at home either. And the even scarier thing is that I was walking out for a break ... then bumped into someone looking for my colleague... said happy new years etc and was about to be on my way (we had stopped to talk outside the lift) and then the lift doors open and there TF is with a key in his hand (which I didn't know I actually needed until after!) .. I know this sounds petty.. but it's just weird stuff like that happening all the time. And the fact he keeps making excuses to make contact with me

but he chose someone else over me... and they are still happy together as far as I can tell. He won't talk to me about her really and rarely mentions her name. Though him messaging me tonight asking me how I was (he thought I was sick because I wasn't in the office when he came to visit TWICE today) and then talking about music ("david guetta - when love takes over" and then proceeding to send it to me without me asking for it) .. well..we used to bond over songs. He keeps doing that.. sending me little messages with continuations of things we used to bond over last year.
I think the pull gets to the TF after a while even if they were the runner!
I have stopped talking to people for much less than what he has put me through (emotional hell). Yet the bond is still strong in both of us.. I look in his eyes still and see the world .. truth.. everything. It's very intense. We can't lock eyes for long.

PS. I am not physically attracted to him but I feel physical attraction at the same time because of the bond.
He is attracted to me though (yes I'm gorgeous hehehe ) but he also has the Ego issues moreso than I do (please disregard the gorgeous statement lol)

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posted January 07, 2010 01:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for venus in gemini     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Polo,
This is completely accurate information, personally realized from my own situation, and confirmed through my highest self.

Can I ask you where you found the writings, if they are not your own?

Thank you for bringing this through.

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posted January 07, 2010 01:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Polo C     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
MsCandeh, your story is amazing! Does he also recognize the synchronistic signs? how frequently do they occur?

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What I could understand though is that these people you mentioned may not be mature or conscious enough to meet their twinflame in this life, but that doesn`t mean they don`t have a twinflame.

Exactly! I did not mean that Crack-Heads do not have a TF, but what I meant was that they cannot experience it. They, as well as anyone else, must Evolve Consciousness. Without elevated consciousness TFs will be unrecognizable to one another.

It disturbs me to see so many believe that TF are about someone being a perfect match. This is inaccurate! TF are about someone being a soul match, which can only be discovered through advanced conscious awareness. Two people could be a perfect "Ego Match"and though they would have much in common, feeling and believing that they love each other very much, they would not be Twin Flames. They would be Ego Flames or Body Mates. Until one first gains the knowledge of self and then becomes confident and secure enough to serve a cause greater than the self, the TF relationship is not possible. This takes a lot of work and no crack addict is qualified while they are addicted.

TF do not come together to serve, each of them will have already arrived at this desire to serve separately. Once they come together they enhance each other's service as the Divine Complement to one another.

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posted January 07, 2010 01:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Polo C     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What is a Twin Flame

Not everyone meets their twin soul in every lifetime, nor should one seek it out ... it's in God/dess's time when the two soul halves will meet, and their successful reunion depends upon the balancing of karma with other souls, the balance of male/female energies within them and between them, and their Spiritual evolution. The energy between them is powerful, the two halves are often like magnets, there is the irresistible pull, or the inexplicable "pushing away" as the energy is sometimes too powerful for one or both to deal with.

Some people mistake unrequited love for a twinflame relationship. It is not, though these powerful "unrequited" love experiences with soul mates or "near flames" can often be the threshold leading to the meeting with your twin soul. As we learn to love and release and open our hearts fully in compassion, forgiveness, and unconditional love, we are being made ready for the ultimate reunion with the other half of our soul. Both halves will feel this connection, and often many synchronistic events and signs will lead up to this magical meeting.

Often one or both will try to run from the energy, it can scare the "stuff" out of you to meet with this person whose soul resonates so strongly with your own. Looking into this person and seeing yourself can frighten you if you haven't done the inner work. If the two halves have not evolved spiritually to come to the place of unconditional love and inner strength, then the meeting can be tragic, short-lived or beset with difficulties (Nelson Eddy & Jeanette McDonald, Elizabeth Taylor & Richard Burton come to mind) but the magnetic pull remains.

Often many obstacles lay in the path between the twins and their ultimate reunion. Lessons in patience, perseverance, acceptance and surrender. Elizabeth Barrett and Robert Browning loved from afar for 20 years as her parents kept them apart. Would such beautiful poetry been born if not for this separation and test of their love? There are stories of twinflames married to others who connect only on the Spiritual plane while respecting the earth vows of their Divine Partner. Evolved twin souls will do no harm or damage to existing relationships, for it will create more karma to be balanced before their reunions can take place.

http://indreamshecame.weebly.com/what-are-twin-flames.html

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posted January 07, 2010 02:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Polo,

I think it would be good to give your sources; just for copyright reasons. Better to be safe than sorry.

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posted January 07, 2010 02:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Polo

TF's ARE a perfect match because only the SOUL is perfect!

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posted January 07, 2010 04:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Polo C     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Twin Soul connection is always a triad involving the Divine Spirit/All That Is, two people connected by soul, connected to God.

Some experience an opening of their psychic awareness as their heart expands in this unbounded and unconditional love. The fact is, your life will not be the same, and whether you perceive this as a gift or a curse is the challenge of your soul’s evolution.

Twin Soul love cannot exist in a codependent, ego-based relationship, or from a perceived “need” that the other person will make you whole. Both must often face separations while they strengthen their own connection to Spirit and find their strength and purpose on their own.

Meeting with your twin soul brings about an internal spiritual revolution, a deeper connection and understanding of the Divine and the Universal Oneness, this is the greatest gift of knowing your twin. Twin soul love is not to be confused with an obsessive/compulsive disorder, it’s not a desire to “possess” another, but truly a challenge to love unconditionally and without expectation, to be whole and complete within yourself before joining with the other whole and complete side of your soul. The longing and desire to be with your twin soul is intense, but through growth and perception can be seen as the greater longing to join with the Divine, and that is the true lesson, you are two halves of a much greater whole.

http://indigolifecenter.wordpress.com/2008/02/24/twin-souls-twin-flames-soul-mates/

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posted January 07, 2010 05:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Polo C     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Again, I was just thinking... Articles always talk of individuals becoming whole on their own first and then others describe the soul union as the two becoming one whole. At first, this seemed quite contrary, but now I see a way that it all makes sense.

The evolution of consciousness is about increasingly higher levels of merger and integration. Lets walk through this together, shall we _

Here is my take on it all. We have the Body, Mind, Spirit and Soul. Each of these must be balanced or mastered separately before it can be successfully integrated with the other to evolve consciousness.


  • The Body: (Material focus) The body is what delivers information to us about the physical world outside. By extracting, or discerning truth from this information, we learn about the environment.

  • The Subconscious Mind: (Emotional focus) From here we receive information about our own internal environment of feeling. Just as the truth must be discerned from the physical information, so it must be done with the emotional information of the subconscious.

  • The Spirit: (Design focus) The spirit is the level of design where we become aware of the essence of a thing. To know it as it actually is. This is achieved by combing the information of the body and the mind into a single cohesive view. This can only be done successfully if the truth has be attained through each. It is the truth that allows us to connect separate sources of information harmoniously. This cohesive view will reveal the nature of what we have gained knowledge about through our external, physical sensations and our internal, emotional feelings. This is Wisdom and the beginning of Spiritual enlightenment.

  • The Soul: (Purpose Focus) The Soul is a mastery of the balance between the three sources of information. This gives one a Holistic view of things, revealing what things mean or how they each fit into the grand scheme. This is the view of one's "Third Eye" making us aware of the Mind of God. Where the spiritual level gives us knowledge of our True Self, the level of Soul gives us knowledge about the source of our selves so that we may have the awareness to serve a cause greater than our selves and find our place; our purpose.

I have said all of this to show that an individual must balance their own individual parts in order to become a whole individual, but the complete individual can only produce one Soul half. Every highly evolved individual is capable of achieving only a Soul portion. No individual can be a full soul, only the union between complementary Soul halves can produce a complete Soul. Soul Mates may be alike in many ways, but only the Twin Flame would be the Divine Complement to make one's Soul Whole.

The Ying is a complete Ying on it's own and the Yang is a complete Yang on it's own, but combined they become a single holistic expression of an energetic polarity. TF Integration is about the collapsing of duality into a polarity, which allows them to serve as part of the singularity of God.

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posted January 07, 2010 05:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Diana     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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NO COMMENT!

Why not?

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posted January 07, 2010 05:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Polo C     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Why not?

Because I could see no resolution in that while you were tired.

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posted January 07, 2010 11:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MsCandeh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Polo,

Yes a lot of our interecations have been like that. The whole situation of how we even met was fated.. I made a really hard/some would consider it stupid decision regarding changing jobs and I said to my family before I took the job (I was given 24 hours to give an answer after my boss asked me to work for her (family friend) and left a permnant job that I was comfortable in for a 3 month contract!) and I said that I felt pulled to do this.. it was a completely new job, never had experience or training in it (but I am a quick learner.. it is an IT job with a university.. I'm normally a receptionist for doctor's offices for 8 yrs!).. almost word for word I said "there is a fated reason why I need to do this".

Everything you posted above under "What is a Twin Flame" from that Weebly website is exactly our interaction. We both felt it was fate that we met he is not outwardly open about his spirituality but he knows I am, so has said a couple of things to me along these lines. I feel we have a lot more soul work to do and he was about to read the soul mate stuff I had collected but then ... well things happened in our sort of love triangle and we ended up not talking (though he kept contacting me occasionally) but I have a feeling we may be doing this soul work as friends and not lovers.

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posted January 08, 2010 02:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for oneruledbymars     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"The Yin is a complete Yin on it's own and the Yang is a complete Yang on it's own, but combined they become a single holistic expression of an energetic polarity. TF Integration is about the collapsing of duality into a polarity, which allows them to serve as part of the singularity of God. "

I like this point alot Polo. It made me think and thats not always a good thing you know...lol (ask my friends) The Ying and Yang symbol connects to something very deep in my soul. I dont know what...but it always has. I am fasicated by the dot in the middle, the idea that you carry just enough of you to understand the other person but only very little.
Twin Flames are about growth. You will understand very little about each other, and even then I think you do not merge so to speak. You cannot lose yourself, or the relationship will lose its polarity.......and like charges repel.
You cannot, just as the black does not merge with the white, there is no grey. Only to opposites ends of the Color Spectrum meeting, and the only interaction between them must come from balance.

But balance is so hard to maintain in this form. We are at the mercy of our Emotions, and our Emotions are tied directly to our Energy source. The very source that this World seeks to take from us on every level.

Have you ever studied a Reptile?
The Reptile is cold-blooded, no warmth within. They seek warmth outside themselves, and survive by stealing the warmth of the fire of other things. This is the way of the Reptile.

Well if you consider the Rulers of this World as such, and us as sources of fire...warmth.....Passion...but yet the highest Energy of all of them is Love...What a force to reckon with love is...in the book of Luke when Jesus was asked "By what shall I inherit everlasting life? The answer he agreed on was: Love your God (or Source, even as it exists in you so love yourself) with your whole heart, whole mind, whole strength and with your whole soul, and Love you neighbor as you love yourself

Love is the highest frequency in our Universe............

I find it interesting that relationships between people are some of the most dysfunctional things on our planet. Yet they werent designed to be this way...Someone I feel is tampering with the system so to speak....

I think that until we can figure this out, exactly what is going on. Learn the Truth that is.....Then there is no point in trying to figure out the connection. Its best to work on you....The Universe will do the rest.......
But there is something special about our group here on LL, and I feel like the first one of us to find that person....and time proves it true...... will have begun to Re-member how create a better world as well, by this way we can teach ourselves....and our inner God would have it no other way. lol

Otherwise we are setting ourselves up for failure with relationships we must let go and live in the now.....and again that is balance. But on the inside. I think that once we have found that perfect balance of the inside we will be able to manifest it on the outside.

As above so below.


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posted January 08, 2010 06:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Polo C     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Let me just say that this is some of the most thoughtful, insightful and original commentary I have read thus far on the subject of Twin Flames. I think you're onto something.

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Twin Flames are about growth. You will understand very little about each other, and even then I think you do not merge so to speak. You cannot lose yourself, or the relationship will lose its polarity.......and like charges repel.
You cannot, just as the black does not merge with the white, there is no grey. Only to opposites ends of the Color Spectrum meeting, and the only interaction between them must come from balance.

I think these soulful relationships are a challenge to understand because of how we are so accustomed to things being. I think it becomes much simpler to understand if you just reverse the process. Here is what I mean _

Ordinarily, when we are attracted to someone, we recognize some surface commonality such as racial or cultural similarity. We determine this by what we can quickly assess with our two eyes. From this we engage in conversation to confirm what we preconceived about the person. From this a physical relationship begins. If it last for any duration of time we may evolve up to an emotional relationship. If we are able to survive that and grow further we may even reach the spiritual, but most people I know don't usually get past the emotional stage. It becomes too difficult because of the chaos, confusion and lack of mental clarity.

With Twin Flames the ironic thing is that the initial commonality begins with Soul recognition and this is what mixes us up. It doesn't make sense because, as I said, we ordinarily begin at the physical stage. We may even ask ourselves "Why am I attracted or interested when they are not even my type?" Superficially speaking of course.

Now here is how I join you in the point that you made. Twin flames are about Growth and the way the growth occurs is through what we learn from one another's differences on the lower levels while we are One at the Soul level. The Soul bond is what holds them together eternally as they face the temporal challenges of emotional feelings and physical sensations. This is why it is said to be so important for the coming together and separation in the beginning. It gives them time to build the spiritual unity between them without allowing the ego to throw them into physical and emotional chaos through a sexual relationship before the Soulful connection is sound. Sex should be the last thing on the List with Twin Flames, this is the reverse of the way it is done traditionally.

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But balance is so hard to maintain in this form. We are at the mercy of our Emotions, and our Emotions are tied directly to our Energy source. The very source that this World seeks to take from us on every level.

Yes! Of course... Those who rule the world do not want paradise on earth. They want to delay the Kingdom that will come from the enlightenment of Twin Flame individuals, couples, children and families as a whole. That's why the television is completely saturated with examples of infidelity and lying and cheating camouflaged as excitement and fun. Those who follow this way of life end up empty and unfulfilled and confused as to why their life isn't as exciting as the people they watch on T.V. They don't realize that they are being lied to or that there's a hidden agenda carried out against humanity by those who control the world, as they seek to maintain their power by keeping us oppressed and blind to the truth. Twin Flames are necessary in order to usher in the Kingdom of Heaven on earth. We do this by following God or the Grand Organizing Design allowing it to be perfectly expressed through our own Individual Design, the Soul.

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Someone I feel is tampering with the system so to speak....

You're right! I put my money on it being "The Illuminati."

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Otherwise we are setting ourselves up for failure with relationships we must let go and live in the now.....and again that is balance. But on the inside. I think that once we have found that perfect balance of the inside we will be able to manifest it on the outside.

As above so below.


You are exactly right ORBM and much closer to the truth than you realize.

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Polo C,
Thank you, and your post have the same appeal for me.

Idea of reversing the process certainly would make sense in my case. I do think the key is in letting go. One really can never the know the possibilities, so I say why comtemplate, that is living in the future and only clouds the present, those of us with rose colored glasses, present company included, dont need any more on our plate than we already have. lol
I say if he comes back and he is more spiritual then that will amazing, and that will be a bridge I cross then. Until them I am going to build a bridge, and get over it so I can play on the other side. That has much more appeal than waiting, physical, spiritually, or emotionally.
It keeps us from going with the flow of what things, and that creates chaos, when we dont believe that all is as it should be we began our descent into lower emotions, but when we go with the flow, then our soul can stay married to our body, and reason is born with this, and reason gives purpose, and for a purpose a man will give his very soul willingly.

You are so right about the television industry, and the way it is running mankind. I am not sure why I have chose this as a career, but it most certainly must point to something. Time will tell, as I see where it takes me. In the moment I just try to pay full attention to all that goes on around me so that I can make the wisest decisions.

You wrote:
"Twin Flames are necessary in order to usher in the Kingdom of Heaven on earth. We do this by following God or the Grand Organizing Design allowing it to be perfectly expressed through our own Individual Design, the Soul."

How perfect that description of the All That Is. Grand Organizing Design, and really it is so...Twin Flames are very necessary and that thought was very powerful.

Your thought patterns are very interesting to me.

I had to take a look at our charts.

Yup... heavy Mercury placements between you and I.
Your Mercury is con my NN and Angel, and opposes my Osiris
My Mercury and Venus oppose your Sun/Spirit/Pluto conjunction.
A powerful interaction.
It gives you the ability to sense my thought patterns and understand them as well as the underlying thoughts, you would know naturally where my soul stands.
There is for sure a past life connection.
It seems to be the energy of Sages, Rishis, Templars, brothers of some sort. And it also connects our soul lives in higher dimensions.

But what seals that for me is your Isis is conjunct mine by sign. But it is conjunct my Sun and Trines my Sag and Moon/Nep Conjunction.

Your Horus is conjunct mine by sign.

Your Osiris/NN/Aura conjunctions sextiles my Osiris and is conjunct my Psyche and opposes my Logos Asteroid.

Your Logos is conjunct my Jupiter and Trine my Mercury.

You Karma Asteroid is conjunct NN

Your Vertex is conjunct my Moon/Neptune and which oppose my Destin/Karma which is conjunct your Angel Asteroid.

Your Psyche creates a Grand Trine with my Sun and Neptune.

Your Destinn/Moon opposes my Isis and Libra and conjunct my Pluto/DNA

Conjunct....Opposes, lots of that going on between us.

I didnt even look at Draco.
The Moon Conjunct Pluto is powerful.
The fact that it is in Libra.

Your Aura/Uranus/Destin/Moon/Venus in Libra gives
you an astounding, unconventionally and quite likely a revolutionary veiwpoint of relationships. Your ideas will be brilliant. Whats funny is that it all conjuncts my DNA Asteroid. Perhaps there is something encoded in my past lives that my association with you will unearth. My Pluto is conjunct this as well, so the potential is there for sure.
And I feel a bit of a transformation coming on. I dare not check the transits! lol

I have alot to learn from you and with you.

Namaste

Glad to have found you again.


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