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lotuss
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posted April 08, 2004 05:59 PM           Edit/Delete Message
Last year i my ex-partner ended his life. I prayed to God with all my heart to 'know' who my life partner was going to be. Just before Christmas, i meet a perfect match. He was going through a divorce and had similar views on life, though not a spiritual man. He sees another girl. Lets me know that we can't be romantically involved. She dumps him. We remain friends. We nearly embrace once. He sees other girls. She comes back into his life, because she's single again. He asks me what i think.I do not encourage it. She offers no emotional security. I declare my love for him in email and admit i prayed to meet him .... I ask us to sleep together and act on attractions. He says he never, ever wants to sleep with me- not love, non-love, casual, relationship without sex etc. I am very confused that he's reaction is so strong. How can a prayer answered go so wrong? He is looking for exactly what i'm looking for, although we are different, we are comfortable with each other and can comfortably be together. I have now had to stop contact with him. He is invited to contact me in the future. Why did this happen?
He's Leo i'm Taurus.

Any views please???????

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Randall
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posted April 08, 2004 07:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message
Welcome!

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posted April 12, 2004 01:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message
That's very confusing. Wish I could help.

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pixelpixie
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posted May 06, 2004 12:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pixelpixie     Edit/Delete Message
Well, It seems that this is an older thread.. but I know issues don't just go away, when you feel strongly about them.. it is just that the thread has been buried.
Well, Lotuss, if you are still here and still wondering.... ( By the way.. pop on over to Soul Unions.. the real "labours of LOVE ")

My outside point of view?
He is NOT your destined partner. Maybe God sent him to you to see that illusions can seem sweet, but ultimately, they are illusions. Neptune's little prank.

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Just before Christmas, i meet a perfect match. He was going through a divorce and had similar views on life, though not a spiritual man

Similar views on life, though not spiritual.. strike one.
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Lets me know that we can't be romantically involved.

He told you you couldn't be romantically involved.. strike two
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He sees other girls.

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He says he never, ever wants to sleep with me-

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How can a prayer answered go so wrong?

Strike three, four........
You answered your own meanderings with your post. If this is an answered prayer, then I would want to ammend that prayer, to include self respect and mutual devotion to be part of that wish.
You may feel connected, but that is not a reason to suppose things that seem to not be based in reality. Your wish and prayer will come... he is not the man for you. Sorry

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lotuss
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posted May 06, 2004 03:06 AM           Edit/Delete Message
PixelPixle

It is finally sinking in that he may really not be the one for me now or in the future.

There's been more dialogue in LABORS OF LOVE = why does my partner not want me ... HELP!!!

I see that he did know what he wanted with me froom the start but did not tell me. I had my 'delusions' which in the end served me well. I yesterday realised we were brought together looking for something extremely similar in each other. And it must just be a lesson to both learn.

Strange really . so Neptunes' behind this?

I am getting good illuminations anyway.

cheers for your reply

love

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lalalinda
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posted May 06, 2004 12:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lalalinda     Edit/Delete Message
yep, its Neptune (squaring Taures and opposing leo). When the aspect passes you'll ask yourself "what was I thinking?"

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lotuss
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posted May 06, 2004 12:54 PM           Edit/Delete Message
lalalinda

When you say it is Neptune Squaring Taurus but opposing Leo. Is it always like this or was it from Dec 2003 to April 2004 period?

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posted May 06, 2004 02:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lalalinda     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Lotuss,
Transiting Neptune right now is about 15 degrees Aquarius (which makes a square to Taures and an opposition to Leo) It will be there all year as it is a slow planet. With Neptune aspecting, it clouds the issues. You both are probably totally missing the mark (misunderstandings) What he thinks your saying and what you think hes saying is confusing at best. Typical of Neptune.
Neptune though is a spiritual planet, and may be here with lessons in Faith. Faith trust blindly, it doesn't have to see God to know that he is here with you. Good Luck on your spiritual journey.

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lotuss
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posted May 06, 2004 02:30 PM           Edit/Delete Message
Help!

I still feel deep down that the Leo is the one you know? For something: lover, friend, have a child/ren something. [dejavu with this word]

What did you mean by ' Faith trust blindly, it doesn't have to see God to know that he is here with you'. Are these 'errors' deliberate?

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posted May 06, 2004 03:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lalalinda     Edit/Delete Message
I'm refering to your recent loss. With death there is usually alot of questions for God like Why? Well only God knows why things happen the way they do and when we're hurting nothing makes sense. When I say trust blindly what I'm trying to say is know that God is there and even if we don't understand his reasons, eventually all will be revealed. Trust him to know what hes doing with/for you. Faith is not questioning it. Again good luck.

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lotuss
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posted May 06, 2004 04:00 PM           Edit/Delete Message
lalalinda

Your message is very calming. I have been questioning [people ,books] and asking [tarot, tarot, astrology, tarot] fairly obsessively on these matters.

Linda does write about a twin self. I suppose i don't really know if the man i identify in an obscure way as someone significant is this for me. And, if i don't feel the same way about someone else what do i then do move on anyway, with less 'fire' in my life? Settle for a fairly dull predictable life?

The message is clear for now. Thanks for your concern and sharing.

It makes a huge difference.

I wonder what drew you to this topic? My head still needs to calm down further on this.


love

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posted May 06, 2004 05:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lalalinda     Edit/Delete Message
lotuss'
I don't know what drew me here either, but something did. One thing I do know is that the person who is right for you (twin self) will feel about you the same way as you feel about them. Its never one sided. I say calm down (I've been there) have a nice cup of tea and just relax, collect your thoughts. Rereading a tarot deck won't do any good your question has already been answered. Worrying is spent energy that helps no one. You need a new plan, a new direction. The last thing you need right now is added stress. (this is why I say relax, I know its hard) Pray for direction and guidence and I'll pray with you too.

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lotuss
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posted May 06, 2004 05:44 PM           Edit/Delete Message
Lalalinda

You are just W O N D E R F U L to me right now. I decided to switch on [addictively] and i'm so pleased with your message. I had been cleaning up the flat. And feel calmer when i think he is not the one for me. At least when i'm being logically from the superficial viewpoint.

I'll admit little things i've done. I drove past the Leo's house today and i noticed positive changes, which i hoped he'd adopt. Since i know he has himself become a little fragmented. And after talking with a new friend, who i get on much more smoothly and could really make future plans with [ already] I just had this incredible stab of desire for the Leo again. When i had stopped all this. I started to even think i could be his lover! While married? That is if he comes back for me too late.

I had a feeling that my ex-partner had a hand in bringing us together. They would have liked each other. My delusion gone too far! But he'd also see that the Leo has some growing/thinking to do.

My ex seriously plans to re-incarnate through me. And i can see all that this Leo has that i've not seen elsewhere... yet.

Why did the Leo and i feel pain together when we should be overt ly expressing our love for each other. He cried when he left me. And i cried when i left him. Like we were not be apart. This is not one-sided Lalalinda. I saw his higher self express deep affection. Although i also saw his words contradict.

So HE does need prayer to put himself together first. That is really why i can't be with him [ i had a hand in pushing him away] He has also not been able to choose wisely for himself. His divorce is affecting him in ways that interfere with ...... And he is dealing with this alone too.

I do agree with you i now see that i am better off wishing for 'my new love to come to me' than keep asking the same questions? ??? This way he'll come into my life sooner ...right?

Please write to me about your experiences like this or with relationships. Or point me in the direction to read. I'd really like that.

Until tomorrow.

Love

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posted May 07, 2004 12:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lalalinda     Edit/Delete Message
good morning lotuss,
I prayed for you and God does answer my prayers so I know that he'll answer this one too. I prayed for relief for you and direction (if you know where your going you'll know how to get there) What have you figured out? This is such an important decision it will probably take more than a little meditation, take your time the decisions you are making will effect the rest of your life.
Your ex can not re-incarnate into a living being (they already have a soul) so thats out. This Leo, pray that he is happy and that he will have a good life and leave it in Gods hands. God will know what to do. I'm here if you need me Lotuss Good Luck

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lotuss
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posted May 07, 2004 02:24 PM           Edit/Delete Message
LalaLinda

I think you are right about praying for the Leo. He does need prayer.

I have attracted another Leo man into my life! I have been thinking and reading Leo a lot lately! This one is more mature in his thinking.

We'll see. I need to calm my head now. Really.

Thanks LaLa, and all the best to you for now.


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posted May 07, 2004 11:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pixelpixie     Edit/Delete Message
Lalalinda~
Been away for a few days, I just want to say......
Good job! Very insightful.

Lotuss~ Good advice, the relaxing.... I know when you are more 'tuned into things' everything seems to possess an aura of specialness, a connection, an inner meaning. I am in no way demeaning any feelings that are real to you in this..... but at the same time, sometimes we search for connections, when we need them so bad.... but sometimes a frog is just a frog. Keep seeking the truth as it is to you. Keep appreciating all the special connections we forge in this world, and keep striving for more unique expressions.

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lotuss
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posted May 08, 2004 05:45 AM           Edit/Delete Message
Hi PixelPixie

I am happy with your attention in this matter. I suppose what i want is my twin flame and i to be together. And to have child/ren together.

'A frog is still a frog' ( : -) Why can't i accept this ?

This man is not opening his EYE yet. I feel deep down it's him.Or it has been him. I knw his soul. I saw it in his eyes. He has allowed himself to be put down and lost the plot on value of self, therefore others. The question is how long will he take to correct his thinking and actions to serve more fully? My strongest hunch is that he does not feel equal to me in this union. He has been so undermined. If we had met after we were both strong and recovered it would have been a different story.

We were blessed on our first date- lovely synchronicities and looks of approval. And reading more on twin flames, I have found that it is common for the 2 to separate for awhile and meet again. It is that powerful the feeling, at least when you are weak.

It is him. I felt with him like i'd known him a long time. Just very familiar.

I will play along with this script and act like i don't know and 'date' others to see what is to happen in the time between.

LalaLinda and PixelPixie you'll know the developments.

In the meantime i am to sort out and maintain an independendent life in difficult circumstances. This is where your prayers would help us. Big thanks for this.

love

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posted May 08, 2004 07:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lalalinda     Edit/Delete Message
Thank you Pixie
Glad you're back

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posted May 09, 2004 03:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pixelpixie     Edit/Delete Message
Lotuss~
I totally know how you feel.. truly I do.
I am glad you have the 'outside' perspective on this.. I am glad you are believing yourself and at the same time knowing you have to give it time to hopefully get the desired outcome. So, bide your time, continue on with other things and other expressions, and who knows, if indeed he is for you, he will realize it. Or if he is just a chapter in your life and soul's journey, you can read the words found, and find the lesson you needed to give new meaning to things.
Often, as well, we are supposed to meet our 'soul'mate, or twin flame, after/during a period of trauma.
The perspective I have on this is one of knowing that feeling you are talking about. I know it is hard to really describe, and to justify it takes some of the magic away, for it is really something beyond words or expression, it is a longing, an inner knowing.... I understand. But the thing is, I have experienced it already.... several times. So obviously, at least for my manifestation, it isn't just 'one'. At least not yet. I have hope that i will continuously experience this connection again and again in life. Even if it is with the same partner ( my husband is sighing with relief, no doubt.)
I had this knowing when I met my son's father,... I have described it before here, and it was so intense, I just knew so much and knew he would be important to me. So I pursued it. We had my son quickly. So the answer to that was there.. My son wanted to incarnate, so we helped him. He gave me my son, but we couldn't keep it together, for in the long run, we were TOO different, and no hope for the future or love or hope could hold us together. But I still remember the magic. I still have the letters, the inner knowledge that my son was conceived through astounding love. This is only one example, I have been lucky enough to know this feeling a few times, and I am grateful to have these people in my life still. I also know it will come again. Good or bad. Maybe this is part of our 'blueprint' and the pacts we make with others before we come here?!

I call this a 'soul's call'.
Your soul, the voice that whispers to you when you meet people randomly, just sort of shouts to you of importance with this person. You can't ignore it.
My friend told me I was clairvoyant the other day.. I just laughed and told her that I was only intuitive, and there was a difference. BUT I do listen to that inner voice, as do you, and I am happy you trust yourself.. but the problem is, the more we know, the less we know... because of things we read, things we encounter, things we learn...our experiences. We begin to remember that thing we read, or what happened in that circumstance, we alter truth with interpretation and speculation, and analyzing the life out of things.. everything now has hidden meaning, rather than just being,instead of just trusting.
We colour our present with what we want for our future. How else will that future manifest, really.. but also, how else would we learn that what we wanted for our future, has no business being there.
Perspective is everything.
Good Luck!!

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lotuss
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posted May 09, 2004 08:58 AM           Edit/Delete Message
Thank you for sharing that with me Pixelpixie.

I've decided to read Gooberz again to see what happens next as 'that' book created the desire to meet my twin flame.

keep you posted.

love

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