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wolverine2jeangrey
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posted August 09, 2010 12:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for wolverine2jeangrey     Edit/Delete Message
Before I get into anything specific... I would like to know what you guys have to say about the Cancer woman Scorpio man love connection....


My most passionate and deep connections are with Scorpios.

Once again I am in love with a Scorpio.... I think that he is in love with me but he's refusing to give in.
I suspect that his last serious relationship is the cause of that... I think it broke him. He cheated a lot on his girlfriend of 7 years and then finally decided to propose to her when he feared she was going to leave and she accepted it...
BUT she left him and she left him the same month his father died(whom he loved dearly). Double shattered heart....
It's been almost 2 1/2 years with absolute ZERO contact between him and the girl (she was a Sag) but he hasn't really opened up with the women after her ...

Then I came along and got all up in his space and he is perplexed as to how and why he slipped up. I'm actually perplexed as well becuz I have been doing the same thing that he has been doing... keeping my heart distant from any relations.
Our stories are pretty similiar... neither one of us has had a deeply committed relationship after our first one... just simple dealings with others.

So what do I do??? He seems to be trying. But the closer we get it seems like a some point he panics and pulls away. Then he realizes it and tries to stop himself from doing so he says.

What do you guys think???
Him - 11/06/1981
Me- 07-08-1981

I dont know our birth times..
Please HELP!!

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Diana
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posted August 09, 2010 06:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Diana     Edit/Delete Message
Aren't you afraid he'll cheat on you? Why is he so upset over her leaving him when he cheated on her so many times?

Scorpio and cancer are usually pretty good together. I know a lot of couples with those signs.

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posted August 09, 2010 06:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for wolverine2jeangrey     Edit/Delete Message
I told him he has no right to be upset. She was justifiably TIRED. But he learned a valuable lesson from that relationship experience.
I'm not anymore afraid that he'll cheat on me than any other man because he's really up front and honest; sometimes I'd rather he not tell the truth. LoL.
But in my eyes I feel that only a rare few men don't cheat. Just for painting a better picture of what I'm saying I'll use #'s.
I believe about 97% of men cheat in some way. That mere 3% that doesn't... Well chances are you can spend a life time looking for them. LoL

From what I know too, we go well together. The chemistry and connections is indescribable at times.
But we have these wounds in the way...

Its puzzling... But something in my heart is telling me not to give up on this love. Its not ordinary...

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posted August 10, 2010 10:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bunnies     Edit/Delete Message
I think you have said all you need to know about this man in the first part of your post.Scorpio my a**!

He is just your usual crap piece of work who goes around cheating and then when the woman finally has had enough, then decides that she's the one and starts with the
"Boo bloody hoo, how could she, I will never love again" load of nonsense.

If you really want to marry this waste of space why don't you follow his ex girlfriend's example and dump him?
This will of course elicit the desired response of making you unattainable and therefore desirable.
He will then pursue you till you give in and then he can cheat on you. Easy see?
A never ending circle of joy.

What a happy life you can have OR...

You can stop setting the bar so low. Stop thinking that every man will cheat on you. Stop making yourself so lacking in self worth that you accept this as part of life.
It's not....unless you permit it.

Start learning to value yourself then find someone who will value you.

The reason why he keeps pulling away is because he is not really that interested...not enough anyway. It's nothing to do with past hurt He obviously has the sensitivity of a breezeblock.

Junk him and start again.
You deserve better. Stop thinking you don't. There is nothing special about this man. There are millions of women all over the world crying over pond scum like this.
Don't be one of them.

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posted August 10, 2010 11:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for wolverine2jeangrey     Edit/Delete Message
@ Bunnies.......(Pushing Pause Button)

I think maybe you are reading wrong.... As word interpretations may have ppl do at times.
Sidebar: By the way what's your sign?

The problem in life is women live in a fantasy world. There are some men that don't cheat but suga in this world they are hard to come by. And that is the cold hard TRUTH. The overwhelming majority of men cheat From the Presidents right down to the average man. From the man who practices a religion down to the man who has no religion.
I have a lot of guy friends that I am cool with and I know a great deal about men. And they've verified this bcuz they ARE men so I wud think they know about themselves. My job requires me to work with and around a lot of men of all races and ethnicities and they say the same thing. So my conclusion was drawn from that as well. I didn't say ALL men, I said the MAJORITY.

So you can either choose to be stupid and naïve and assume your man is always faithful or you can accept the fact that he maybe cheating or possibly will. Reality check.... Before you are shocked and overwhelmed when it actually happens..

I've had ppl who've been married for 50+ years tell me of extramarital affairs but they grew and learned that they love their spouse but just enjoy others company from time to time.
I'm a realist. My self esteem is far from low. I've lived and experienced a lot of things in life. Learned from experiences so I look at things without the rose tinted glasses that some females wear bcuz the truth hurts. I value myself beyond measure... Which is why until him I've been absent an up close relationship for years. Bcuz I've went out on plenty of dates and tried to get to know guys and discovered they were crap covered with whipcream and a cherry on top. And I KNOW I deserve better which is why I decided to stay single for the past few years after my 1st serious relationship. I don't settle, I have standards that I stick by. And for that reason a lot of piece of crap guys back away from me bcuz I'm good at judge of character. I do it for a living.

So NO He is NOT a piece of crap. There is something called growing, learning and getting older. And ppl learn and grow in different ways. (And from your response I take it that you haven't experienced much in life).
At any rate, He realizes the wrong and the mistakes he has made. The person you are today may not be the person you were 3 years ago. The person you were 3 years ago is not the person you were 6 years ago.

With that said... It is unfair for YOU to pass judgment on anyone regardless of who they are when you don't know the shoes they had to walk in. As People we are all always evolving and trying to learn how to blossom and become better...and we are entitled to 2nd chances.

And Its not that simple to grow. I've done things in my past that were wrong (its called mistakes). And those mistakes made me who I am today. I'm quite sure YOU have done wrong things and if a person were to judge you from that one thing it wud be unjust of them too.

I've known this man since pre-k. He is very attractive so one wud judge and assume he has lots of sex and they wud be wrong. He didn't have sex until he was 18.
I know these things for fact bcuz he's honest when you ASK. When this "piece of crap" cheated it wasn't all sexual. It was dates (which is still considered cheating to me). He sexually cheated once. And while everyone one else (even some females) told him don't ever tell her... this "piece of crap" wanted to be honest with her bcuz what he did was wrong and he felt she had a right to know the truth so she can decide if she wud still have him in her life with all the truth laid out on the table. She wasn't completely innocent she cheated too... She stayed with him and then decided to leave months later.
This man goes to work and comes home. He does doubles. Works out and sleeps. A man who's faith has grown now bcuz of his experiences in life. This man was the person who stuck be me thru a time when my world was flipped upside down from hardships and I was a wreck. He sat aside his own worries and priorities and put me at the top of his list to make sure I was okay on all levels. This man has prayed with me and for me. In times of trouble this man held me til I stopped crying and fell asleep. He's always there with loving words and encouragement.
And he didn't HAVE to do it.
Doesn't sound like the description of a piece of crap to me.

At any rate.... This is an astrology forum so he sign is an issue of discussion. This man is a Scorpio and that does play a part in his way of dealing with hurt as he goes thru life. He is afraid of being vulnerable and hurt. Ppl who know anything about Scorps know this.

(Pushing Play Button)
So any advice on a Scorp will suffice.

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Diana
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posted August 10, 2010 11:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Diana     Edit/Delete Message
Wow, Bunnies, great post! I agree.


While the fact he cheated in the past does not necessarily mean he'll cheat now, his actions towards you are messed up. If you've been hurt before and you like someone a lot, you are unable to run away -- unless they are the one who hurt you, and then it gets a bit more complicated. Someone new you like, you may be scared but you usually go with it because it's stronger than the fear. If not, you aren't really interested.


I do have to say that I agree the majority of men cheat and most women are oblivious to this fact for some weird reason.


The fact is: this man is emotionally unavailable and sounds like he always will be.

He sounds like the type of scorpio who likes to dwell on the past and remain the victim. I am familiar with this type of scorpio. They enjoy to suffer, even if they won't admit it. He'll never give up his hurt. It keeps him safe from future pain, or so he thinks. Meh, I'd find someone else.

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posted August 10, 2010 11:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yin     Edit/Delete Message
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He cheated a lot on his girlfriend of 7 years and then finally decided to propose to her when he feared she was going to leave...

This was enough for me to decide to stay clear of this thread since you seem to condone that kind of behavior. To each their own, I decided.

But your last post made me reconsider for a second.

wolverine2jeangrey, bunnies has eons of experience on you. She gave you some good advice based on that experience. She knows what she's talking about and I happen to agree with her.

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posted August 10, 2010 12:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for wolverine2jeangrey     Edit/Delete Message
I've pretty much gotten more insight from someone else's post that appears to have some users with more life experiences with DIFFERENT types of people.
In a perfect world ppl function perfectly and wud fall under what you guys think.
But the fact is the world we live in is NOT perfect.

Just to hilite how different Scorpios are I will post and reveal the insight of other users from a particular forum on Scorpios:

"??My experience is that the gender factor amongst Scorpios makes the difference.

The males I've known will destroy a relationship before it ever comes to fruition if they feel they are losing control. No matter how much it hurts them in the process. They will make you suffer. I don't think they really mean to.. they just can't help it. They are always trying to sit on that intensity. They get caught in such a vortex of emotion that i
t comes down to the fact that they control it or it controls them.. having an intense, emotional, sexual, intellectual experience is just the thing to cause it. They have a special talent for bringing about exactly what they fear most. They realize that their love may leave them... so they leave first.. so they are not left hanging"

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posted August 10, 2010 12:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for wolverine2jeangrey     Edit/Delete Message

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"??Personally, I think scorps get a bad rap. true they are intense, moody, secretive but thats becuz they are soooo afraid of rejection and humiliation. My son, brother, father and a couple exes are scorpios and if you look at them in non-romantic relationships you will see intensely devoted people. They will kill for you, if they trust you. How do you make them trust you? well, in my experience the only way is to just always be there. Don`t let them run you off with a snarl or a slight. THIS IS A TEST THIS IS ONLY A TEST....if you do run, you`ve just proven them right. And that happens too their sensitive souls too much. Trust me I`ve seen my son, father, and brother sob pitifully over women WHO NEVER KNEW.


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I relate to a large extent, esp. with your last sentence. Their annoying tests are incessant but with the evolved ones, it really is just about fear of abandonment/rejection/humiliation. If they’re falling hard in a relationship, it gets even worse coz they do this ALMOST EVERYTIME they risk investing more of their emotions – they need reassurance that no matter what, you’ll be there.

I’m a Cancerian and whenever I’m taking a flight away from my Scorp, I’ll end up crying, moping, looking miserable, filled with angst before traveling while he’s the one in control getting whatever I need, ensuring the ticket is in order, setting the alarm so we don’t miss our flight, totally in charge. I’ve literally said his mastery over emotions is commendable against my being a mess but he just responds with a smile, hug or kiss. When I leave though, having expressed my emotions, my inner turmoil is nowhere near his intensity - Business associates meeting him in that WEEK comment that he looks like he’s in mourning.

LetsDance, yeah, they do need someone to prevent them from getting lost and it has to be someone who can handle it – not everyone can. They tend to learn this growing up which is why most of them tend to become secretive, less talkative, even slightly neurotic – from keeping everything in. I think ‘topshelf’ said something to similar effect perfectly above.

Obe, I love your insights. It really is a special madness with them and if genuine, the recipient feels blessed more than lucky

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??You two are right, so right.

I totally know what you both are talking about.

Obe, I understand you now. I'm learning more and more about my scorpio. I've never been afraid of him or his intensity. Credit it to my Piscean,Cancerian and Capricornian placements.

There are too many times when I look at him and KNOW his struggle behind all the "bravado". Sometimes I am very protective of him---from myself! I scold myself sometimes for being so stubborn with him (yeah, I can be a bear--but sometimes he provokes it. I don't like being that way).

But I'm coming to know him more and more everyday. He doesn't even know how much I understand about him. And I don't mean from talking to him or whatnot, because he can be elusive. It's just from being around him. I'm like a freaking sponge...

He'd pass out if knew how well I'm coming to know him.

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posted August 10, 2010 12:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for wolverine2jeangrey     Edit/Delete Message
Nevertheless... Thanx for you guys thoughts on the post.

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posted August 10, 2010 12:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Diana     Edit/Delete Message
All the posts you put on here are just what you WANT to believe and what THEY wanted to believe about scorpios. A man that won't commit is a MAN that WON'T commit.


I think you have rose colored glasses on....You want validation to believe this man likes you despite that he won't commit. You wouldn't have posted for advice if you believed he really wanted to be with you. You just want people to tell you he loves you, but he's a scorpio so he can't show it. Bulls_it. I wish we had more scorp males on this site so they could tell you if they want to be in a relationship with you, neither hell nor high waters nor *insert scorpio stereotype women who have been hurt by scorpio men are saying to make themselves feel he still really loves her here* are saying.

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posted August 10, 2010 12:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bunnies     Edit/Delete Message
Fair play wolverine.
I can dish it out but I have no problem taking it either.
But firstly let me just clarify one point.
I have had a huge amount of life experience (I am sorry you thought my post was written by a twelve year old!)
I have two grown up children (wonderful)have been married three times (and no I don't think any of them cheated)have lived in many different countries and places and have a successful lifestyle (self employed)

I am not crowing here just saying that I have seen a lot of life and I know from whence I speak.
I currently live with two male friends as I have a big house and it's nice to share.
I understand a great deal about men and I have no illusions about them. I like them a lot but yes I am aware of their shortcomings
BUT what I was trying to say was this:

Why would someone as clued up as you about the ways of the world, then feel that you need/want to marry someone who will inevitably make you unhappy?
Are you going to marry someone who you know will cheat on you?
What would be the point?

Can you just not accept the way he is and find someone who will value you for the strong woman you are and not for one minute jeopardise your relationship for a quick fumble with someone else.
Because there are men out there who do this.But only with women they know would not accept anything less.
This is what separates us from animals. Morals.Ethics.
Sure they all look but if the world is just full of cheaters then why on earth get married?
There's an exercise in pointlesness.

You are doing the standard thing that women do in relationships with men like this.
You ask for advice. You look for reasons (astrology, transits, past life traumas)but the moment someone points out that " Mr Wonderful if only he could get past all his hang ups" is anything but, you immediately jump to his defence.
"No" you cry "Nobody understands him it's not his fault" and then even worse maybe even trying to shoulder some of the blame
"If I was maybe a bit more this or a bit less that or more understanding...

He is what he is. he doesn't want to commit because he wants to play around so at least he is being honest there but then what do you go and say?
That you don't like all that honesty?
Head out of the sand lady!
Don't believe the old adage "What you don't see doesn't hurt you"
Of course it would. Over and over again.

You are right about one thing though. I don't know him and I had no right to call him a piece of crap. Apologies.

And I'm an Aquarian

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posted August 10, 2010 12:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message
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All the posts you put on here are just what you WANT to believe and what THEY wanted to believe about scorpios. A man that won't commit is a MAN that WON'T commit.

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posted August 10, 2010 12:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Benedict Moon*     Edit/Delete Message
There's being realistic, and then there's being selectively realistic. I'm seeing alot of the latter in this thread.


Bunnies.

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posted August 10, 2010 12:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message
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Can you just not accept the way he is and find someone who will value you for the strong woman you are and not for one minute jeopardise your relationship for a quick fumble with someone else.
Because there are men out there who do this.But only with women they know would not accept anything less.
This is what separates us from animals. Morals.Ethics.
Sure they all look but if the world is just full of cheaters then why on earth get married?
There's an exercise in pointlesness.

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posted August 10, 2010 01:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for wolverine2jeangrey     Edit/Delete Message
@ Yin... Thanx for the 2nd chance. LoL

And Oh no.... I by NO means condone cheating. I've been cheated on before and I KNOW that pain and I wud never want to play a part of that on another woman's heart. The pain is unmeasurable esp. when you have a child in the mist of that.

I've stayed single for so long bcuz a lot of guys on the dating scene are alredy in a relationship BUT STILL dating as if they are single and lying that they are. I've had guy's wives call me up and I wud be speechless like married??? Huh?? He's married?? I've been to his house before but I just prefer to stay in my own house. And how did he move around so freely for the past 6 months? Her answer» Bcuz they were seperated for a month and she moved out. And she knows he's unfaithful and they have issues but he's still MY husband ***** .
So I wud just apologize bcuz I know her heart aches and then tell her how he lied and not to worry about me bcuz I serve a God that detest adultery and I do not want to go to hell with gasoline in my panties. LoL

I've seen like 2 of my "single" guys before unexpectedly. I rode by 1 guy and stopped to say hello. He was so happy to see me he didn't have time to take off that big diamond wedding band and the sparkle blinded my eyes and left me speechless and disgusted.
Goodbye liar.

So I chose to stay single rather than date those kinda guys bcuz if he does it to her what shud I expect from him has always been my theory.


But Scorp guy is not those guys. He was single when we started seeing each other on a different level. And we didn't intend for this. We just started hanging out had a significantly great deal of similarities and an indescribable understanding of each other and it just all unfolded.
The difference here is he was in his early 20's when he was his wildest. And then as he got older he started to grow. And then he realized how much he loved her and didn't want to lose her. But he was too little too late. The damage was done and he cudnt erase the wrong. So now almost 3 years later he's grown even more to understand how a man shud be in a relationship but he has wounds in the way still. Maybe its easy for some to lose 2 ppl you love in the same month but for me I know I wud be devastated.

When I left my 1st relationship bcuz he was a cheater... I was devastated but I refused to accept that. So although I left physically and detached myself... my heart was still feeling the hurt and the loss.
So I understand his difficulty. I've experienced it. Its not easy to keep stepping out on that limb and have it break and fall flat on your face. Ouch! Some ppl think I'm cold mean and detached. But I'm not. I'm just very guarded and cautious bcuz its hard for me to trust ppl based on my life experiences. So b4 I trust you I have to analyze you and watch you. Some of these men are very very great liars!! And bcuz of that I'm hesitant. I I've pushed a good guy or 2 away out of fear of being hurt again. Bcuz at the particular time in my life they encountered me I was hiding in my shell like the Crab I am. That Hard shell outside to protect the soft vulnerabilities & love I have inside. I've had ppl abuse that.

But Scorpio hasn't. I trusted him effortlessly and vice versa. And that's not our norm. We have our friends shocked at how we managed to even connect when we're both so guarded. But fear is an issue here.... Sometimes we sync and drop & abandon our fear. And then sometimes one of us is drawing back (we just push away in different ways). Trusting ppl is scary. But I try... I'm a little braver than he is but still very much afraid.

But I see something inside of his spirit. Something in my heart loves something in his. When we let go we're great. When we start thinking the fear kicks in. We've discussed this and one day I decided to push his buttons bcuz I knew it wud take him off guard and he slipped up and said
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" I love you and I don't want to bcuz everyone I've ever loved , except my brother has left me and I can't lose anyone else. My brother is reckless so he' s probably gonna leave this world soon but I've prepared myself for his departure. I've gotten used to being alone and then you got in and I don't know how. And its taking over me. Love makes you weak and vulnerable to be broken and then left alone to try to piece yourself back together. You might get destroyed."

I get that.... Bcuz I feel the same way... Only difference is I wud rather take the risk but only if I Trust you won't do that. They say in love you have to be vulnerable and give someone your heart and trust them not to break it.
That's scary to me....

We've had some deep things happen btween us and I think he's afraid.
So I'm willing to love him past his flaws and work thru his insecurities. He does it for me. I'm like a spoiled little princess at times (my dad's fault ) and I'm difficult at times. My sister scolds me for that. And this man sticks by me flaws and all. So how cud I not try to understand him and work with him too thru his.
I'm just tryna figure out how... I think we cud have a great life together. If he trust that I won't hurt him and then leave him broken.

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posted August 10, 2010 01:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for wolverine2jeangrey     Edit/Delete Message
@ Bunnies....

I have neither the desire nor the patience to go back and forth with you.
The fact that you felt the need to validate yourself by adding your travels and big house and so on and so forth is childish and I didn't post this for ignorance...
You appear to be miserable and scorned and hiding behind things of this world that you can't take with you when you die and won't help you on judgment day. LoL

I posted for other perspectives... Thanked you for your thoughts and kept it moving on to the next person's thoughts on said topic.
It also appears to me that you became angry bcuz of Yin's comment. And felt the need to be "extra" in your word choice. You can SAY you have whatever you want. LoL
I'm a famous singer who makes millions every year selling records. Now I feel better about me as I compare myself to you. Smh. Get a grip and stop being childish....
And bcuz you had 3 marriages.... We'll now that's not necessarily a good thing.
Could be viewed that you have a problem.... But you're an Aquarius so I rest my case on that note...

But wud you can do is make yourself like the wind and remove your air and your negativity from my post.

Thank you

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posted August 10, 2010 02:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bunnies     Edit/Delete Message
No problem wolverine.
But I am not miserable and scorned.
I am happy and loved and I love every day.
My possessions are just stuff. I know that. I hold no value with them.
Just to set that straight.
Off you go now

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posted August 10, 2010 02:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for wolverine2jeangrey     Edit/Delete Message
@ Diana.....

Point taken on the " A man that won't commit is a MAN that WON'T commit." And a great point that is....

But don't take my trying to explain the situation in a little further detail as me wearing rose tinted glasses or as someone else stated me being selectively realistic.
The purpose was to give more info for a well informed response. And to respond to Bunnies negative demeanor.. Its not what was said its how it was said. No need to be nasty/negative towards someone in your approach in a convo. It makes one ignore what you say and address your demeaning approach.

I love the truth. And I seek it. Which is why I posted this. The title of this post was more so to reel ppl in to discuss the Scorpio and if they think they are the marrying type overall. I do plan to get married one day but I don't want to run thru 3 or 4 of them like they're mere boyfriends so I'm treading cautiously. Marriage is not something I take lightly and ultimately I wud like to settle down with a person who I believe to be trustworthy. So I'm researching and this was for some insight from the astrological perspective. I don't live my life based on the stars but I do believe they are a factor in how ppl are based on strikingly almost identical behavior patterns amongst ppl of different signs.

I've been proposed to by a Scorpio before but I KNEW it was not a good idea bcus of some Truths about something that I wud not compromise my values for. And I'm glad I made that decision. Most women wud just jump and say yes bcuz they were happy to be proposed too. Well I'm far from the naïve in a fantasy world, I'd rather live in the real world and the fact is this is a cold world. So I'm utilizing different outlets for insight.

The same way one wud research all the factors on a car they are planning to buy b4 they commit to buying it and investing in the maintenance. Some ppl think Range Rovers are nice looking pieces of junk with high maintenance so go with a Mercedes. Others don't and dislike the Mercedes. You just compile the opinions and consider them when u decide what you want to do.

Everyone does not agree. But its okay to disagree. And you don't have to be negative and ignorant while doing so.
I've always been the lay your cards on the table person so I can KNOW what really is. Knowing is beautiful. But truth hurts. Sometimes I don't like it. But I darn sure prefer it bcuz it saves time and energy.
Truth SEEKING is what led me to leave my "committed" relationship with a man who "WANTED" to commit by his own set of actions and words but behind my back wasn't. Having his cake and eating it too. And whenever I seek truth and conclude that a duck is a duck. Then I ACCEPT that and move accordingly even if it hurts. My heart didn't want to leave that relationship BUT my mind is a realist and said "Heart & body its time to go. I will figure out how to deal with this emotionally later" I refuse to stay somewhere that's not best for me.

So to please don't get my detailed explanations misconstrued with not wanting you guys honest and different opinions. I respect the truth when it is an unbiased truth....

Bcuz I also take into account that some ppl have been scorned and burned by certain things/ppl (signs) and they hate them and as such bash them. Some ppl hate Pisces and it confuses me bcuz I've viewed them to have big hearts and let ppl walk all over them.
There were ppl who bashed Scorps on that forum and then as it continued you see why they hated that Scorp! Lmbo!
There are ppl who bash marriage and those who think its a beautiful blessing and one shud want to experience. I take it all in bcuz it allows one to be well rounded in their thought process and decision making.

Ultimately you guys.... I am not on here to argue. I enjoy this site. Its fun and funny,& insightful and has some positive uplifting forums on here.
So its not that serious for ppl to come on here trying to build up their self esteem by trying to belittle someone else bcus they're miserable and negative at this particular time in life.

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posted August 10, 2010 04:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Benedict Moon*     Edit/Delete Message
Basically, if we're not telling you what you WANT to hear instead of what you need to hear, then we're negative, scorned, and living unfullfilling lives. Nice.


I'm sorry guys, but not all Cancers are like this.

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posted August 10, 2010 05:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for wolverine2jeangrey     Edit/Delete Message
@ Benedict...
You can choose to twist how I view the advice on here all you like.... But your sarcastic remark is not accurate....

And you might wanna make sure you have your facts straight first. I did not say that anyone on here was negative and scorned EXCEPT for Bunnies.... You went and added yourself in there.
As I already stated.... Its NOT about WHAT was being said.... Its HOW it was said in a unnecessary demeaning manner. And that prompted me to respond back accordingly. But you chose to be ignorant to that factor.

And just bcuz you wud probably take the opinion of a handful of ppl and run with that as opposed to trying to hear the opinions of many... That's you....
As for me I wud prefer to have a survey of 15 to 20 opinions rather than just 3 or 4. Now if 20 ppl were on here and the overwhelming majority of them made comments that said absolutely not a good idea chica run.
Then I accept that truth as the majority opinion on the matter. Bcuz they cud probably see something from the outside that I can't see in the midst of the situation.
I am an open minded person and I like to be well informed. And I'm sorry. But taking in account only what a HANDFUL of ppl opine on any matter/issue/topic just doesn't suffice for me. I intended on letting a good deal of comments be posted first before responding but I felt bunnies was out of line with her approach NOT her opinion.

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And on another note.... Its hilarious how some ppl will comment strongly on an issue on one person's forum about something & criticize/belittle them. And then you see them on another forum not living up to their on advice they gave to others. How do you give advice that you can't seem to use and apply when needed in your own situation when your confused & playing silly games or struggling to decide with an issue you simply solved in 5 minutes for someone else. Smh.
Its like telling someone to leave their husband hands down becuz he cheated and its absolutely unnacceptable. But then you don't leave yours when he cheats on you.

Practice what you preaching.....

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posted August 10, 2010 06:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for wolverine2jeangrey     Edit/Delete Message
And for the record, I did NOT say that there wasn't any good advice on here. NOR did I say that I totally disagree with the advice on here. I look a lot of what Bunnies said and I agree with most of it.
Diana AND Bunnies both made some valid good points but its hard to focus on those points when unnecessary negative words/approaches are used.
And THAT was the issue; Bunnies wording/demeanor was offensive to me.
Mannerisms make all the difference in how a convo progresses.

Now had this been a verbal convo in which you cud hear words and tones instead of viewing a sentence with some insulting words..... we might not have wasted so many key strokes addressing insults and negativity. But Ultimately that ended up prevailing....

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posted August 10, 2010 06:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Benedict Moon*     Edit/Delete Message
Where do you see Bunnies or any of the others not practicing what they're preaching? I don't see any of the sort here.


Anyways, you are WAY too literal: I didn't insert myself in, I just made a hypothesis based on the way you've responded to others who've tried to tell you things the way they see it, instead of what you WANT to hear.

I don't think Bunnies is negative at all, I just think she approached this thread the way she did, because if we tried to be nice, then you would have rationalized good 'ol scorp's anyways. I'm aries mars so I think I agree with giving someone a swift kick in the rear when they're in denial.


My advice: I am a Cancer and I was in a committed relationship with a Scorpio once. Don't bother, its a waste of time.

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posted August 10, 2010 07:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for wolverine2jeangrey     Edit/Delete Message
Finally! Thank you! That's all I wanted was the advice/opinions minus the jabs/insults against my character that were concluded without even knowing enuff about me to do so...
I like it raw! So the swift kick in the butt is fine WHEN you have a rapport with the person you do it to. Otherwise, it comes off disrespectful and insulting. Maybe you know Bunnies and/or converse on post with her or see her comments to know that she wasn't trying to insult/demean me.... But I don't share your experience.

Anywho....
We're crabs and snappy but we can crawl around in this box(forum) without clawing each other. LoL

Okay soooo.... What was the major issue that sunk the relationship? You don't have to get all in personal private details (not prying).. But I mean like in general what was wrong? Why the clash?

Sidebar: I hate that I don't know my birth time!! Ugggh!

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posted August 10, 2010 08:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Benedict Moon*     Edit/Delete Message
I haven't crossed paths with Bunnies that frequently, but from her response I intuitively knew that she saw someone in (what looks like) a dead-end situation and was trying to snap them out of it. The wording was not sugary, I agree, but I don't believe there was malice intended. Perhaps it reminded her of a personal situation of herself or a friend from the past, and it probably touched a cord? Sometimes I get irritated when I see people stuck in the same cycle I was once in.


Anyways, the problems I had with scorpio were alot different from your current situation, but what the heck, I'll bite:

Lets start with the fact that the courtship stage (if you can even call it that) lasted over a year. He was not the most direct person in the world, expected me to do all the work, and was actually REALLY passive aggressive (Pisces Moon involved in a T-square with Neptune and Mars).

Then there was my Mercurial Moon and my Mercurial/Air Venus. Didn't really go well with his jealous/possessive nature.

People say this match is suppose to be the be all, and end all, but after this debacle I beg to differ...its really not all that unless the charts or specific natures go well too. It worked in the beginning because we both are Neptunian, but there was some essential differences that eventually drove us apart. He was naturally relationship inclined, while I needed some periods to retreat to myself (Virgo Moon). He was all into merging identities, while I was not (Gemini Venus). I remember when he freaked out because I went out-of-state for two weeks to help my mother settle in her new house. I know some people are bummed/sad about that type of thing (myself included) but his initial response was just ridiculous and uncalled for. It just showed the lack of trust.

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