posted September 20, 2010 09:19 AM         

I had a dream early Sunday morning after seeing this man I used to have a strong crush on... he had gotten a girlfriend and I gave him up in my mind and heart. It appears to me that things will end with the gf at some point (music/lyrics he has posted) so I am wondering if this is just my brain, subconscious, working these feelings out. That's what dreams are for... right?

This is the second dream I have had in my life like this one. The first was about another boy I had loved for years (since we were teens) who I could not be with physically.

In my dream we just lay together and kissed each other and looked into each other's eyes. Touched bodies by laying in each other's arms. I could feel everything. Taste and smell him and felt STRONG love for him. Not in a lustful way, just in a full experience of him being with me sort of way.

This dream happened hours after he walked up to me and talked to me and we touched, sort of a hug with our hands/arms. At the time of the touching I didn't even fully appreciate it... I was so far over him in my eyes and mind... really doing well. After that dream it seems like I am under his spell again.

Was I not over him to begin with and my mind is just processing things I have repressed?? Are there aspects of our minds/souls that actually met in my dream? It was so real. If this is my mind, why am I manufacturing this? Because of a strong desire? Probably. But it felt so beautiful. It was so real. It could be a remnant from a past life too... but it felt NOW. It felt like a REAL experience in that moment, though dreamy. As if we saw each other again and awakened our desire to connect.

I know we love each other. There is no doubt. I also know that I am not what he wants physically. He is a popular man and can have any woman he wants. But we all know that even if we had a choice of all the people around us... we sometimes can't find that connection no matter how hard we look.
He and I have some major connections and major Saturn. We are in each other's lives no matter what and as our Jupiter aspect explains we really do only want to make each other happy. We have both said as much.
I'm guessing the dream is a psychological manifestation of my desire to get closer to him when I have repressed any expression of this for so long since he got a girlfriend. She was there that night (when I saw him in real life... before the dream) and I was very conscientious of being kind and respectful to her and felt so "over" him that I did not even feel I was in any way betraying her even in my heart (though I couldn't have stopped that even if I tried if I was doing that). Then I had the dream that night.

What do you think??

posted September 21, 2010 02:25 AM         

I believe dyour souls have met, you re-forged the cords after physically seeing him (or at least strengthene them if they were never not cut, which it doesn't sound like!)

<3

Are you hoping to see him again?

posted September 21, 2010 12:58 PM         

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I know we love each other. There is no doubt

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But we all know that even if we had a choice of all the people around us... we sometimes can't find that connection no matter how hard we look.

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I know we love each other. There is no doubt. He and I have some major connections and major Saturn. We are in each other's lives no matter what and as our Jupiter aspect explains we really do only want to make each other happy. We have both said as much.

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I think the dream is actually both. (your souls meeting AND psychologically working it out) It's very hard to intentionally dream about someone, especially someone you are fond of and love.....so I don't think it's all in your head.......

Not sure if you want to talk about it more.

posted September 21, 2010 07:52 PM         

I meant that I have been in the position where I had many men who were attracted to me and they were decent men but I had no connection to them at all. I have looked around the people in my life and wondered if I could pick any one of them (if I had the luxury of that choice) if there were any of them I actually felt enough of a connection to that I could build a close intimate relationship with them. I have had male friends all of my life and there has never been a shortage of men, just a shortage of that kind of connection. I felt that I knew some good men and they were attractive enough physically, but I couldn't respect them in a way where I could actually fully admire them in a way someone should admire her hero.

With this man we seem to be on a common wave length and have an amazing mental connection. We seem to be in the same "soul group" in that we have many of the same friends that were all brought together through circumstances out of our control. I also look up to him, admire him, and believe in him. So, I was saying that even if I may not be his ideal physically, there is no denying the connection he and I have with each other. It is a fated relationship. I had made my peace that it is not meant to be a one on one deep personal relationship... or at least I thought I had... and then this dream. Now I feel like we had some sort of physical romantic interlude and my emotions are going crazy. He again has me feeling like a silly little girl in love... against my best defenses.

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I think the dream is actually both. (your souls meeting AND psychologically working it out) It's very hard to intentionally dream about someone, especially someone you are fond of and love.....so I don't think it's all in your head.......

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Yes, I didn't intentionally try to dream of him, but isn't that what so many say dreams are... your subconscious working things out? But Carl Jung believes we are all connected at that level, which makes astral apply... and astral is all emotions and that is what the dream was... pure beautiful emotions... and warmth... and peace.

posted September 22, 2010 03:54 AM         

But anyway, i think its only YOU who can answer to this qustion, cause as i observed, the only thing which makes these "soul dreams" different from the others is the way you feel about it. Like in my case, when i have/had a "soul dream" it was always accompanied with one undeniably strong feeling: that the main theme of the dream is true and it will become the reality when the time arrives.

I tell you one of my "soul dream".
It happened almost two years ago. That time there was a guy at work who i fell in love quite much, and although i knew that he also had feelings for me, he rejected me and said that we should remain just friends. Not long after this scenario, i had a dream in whihc he told me that Im the one he loved the most, but he needed time, he asked me to be patient with him. I can still feel this dream so strong in my heart, as if it happened yesterday.

posted September 22, 2010 01:27 PM         

OK, I was confused! I thought by this statement

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But we all know that even if we had a choice of all the people around us... we sometimes can't find that connection no matter how hard we look.

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Anyhow, I know you weren't intentionally trying to dream of him.........I was just trying to say that it's rare to dream of someone we love, even if/when we try to.

I do think that the possibility of an astral connection is very high........b/c he is not available to meet you for a physical connection. At least not now, so he met you for an astral one.

Well, considering the circumstances, that he has a gf, I would just try as hard as you can to be neutral with the situation. Love him from afar, but love him and let him go. Let him live his life.......if it is meant to be in this lifetime, it will be. What will be, will be.

DreamyAriesGirl, I love your story!!!

Isn't there a song by that country singer, I can't think of his name........."thanking God for unanswered prayers". And there is a time to every purpose under heaven. Perhaps he has to finish his karma with his now present gf until he is ready for you.

posted September 26, 2010 03:21 PM         

poems I wrote about him
most recent dates first... so you might want to read them from bottom to top to see the progression ♥

Sunday, March 22, 2009

Desirous
Current mood:soulful longing
Category: Religion and Philosophy

The urge to hold you -- it grows
the longing to know you
to touch you
to hug you
to wrap my arms around you
gently run my fingers down your cheek
and around to the back of your neck...
mmm....
breathe your scent...
caress your lips
with my fingertips -
the tip of my tongue.

massage your shoulders...
your arms...
your arms!
I dream of leaning in from behind you...
running my hands over your shoulders
your arms
your chest...
You would turn around and pull me to you...
and the rest.......

~

Thursday, November 20, 2008

Before the fall
Current mood:savage
Category: Dreams and the Supernatural

I'm often afraid

that the moment our hands touch

they will braid

and intertwine like roots

divine… to bind us in this

life, as in eternity.

There will be a Knowing

in that embrace

that tears through this temporal place

thrusting a truth in our face

that cannot be dismissed or denied.

So I dance around

weaving an illusion

of time and space

and momentary intrusions

a sensual game of touch and withdrawal

a sensory experience

before the fall

that will grab us

and wrest us as we join

that will tear us

and test us

and cause us pain

that will take us

and make us

look inside

a violent force

that cannot be denied

that will make us forget

and make us doubt

what this momentary beauty

is all about

♥

Sunday, November 09, 2008

(a shooting star)
Current mood:acceptance
Category: Writing and Poetry

You are a shooting star,

I gaze upon you,

your power and beauty,

your awe-inspiring majesty.

I reflect this back to you,

reminding you of your strength

and purpose

as you speed by,

a force of nature,

to your destiny.

~*

Monday, October 13, 2008

Attention
Current mood: content
Category: Dreams and the Supernatural

(secret him)

You immediately captured my attention

Knowing, sensing

intense palpable energy

there in front of me

Your eyes gloss over me

yet remain

some unseen domain

envelops us

and we must

be aware

of every moment

every movement

just us

and time steps in

between us

and we part

and yet

the sensing stretches

like a net

a little broader

wider

expansive

open to the traffic

and when it ends

I just wait

to See you again.

posted September 27, 2010 08:35 PM         

I don't know. I'm in one of my "it's just my imagination" swings. I was ridiculously happy the day after, I will say that. And we were doing the covert mental flirting game we used to do back when those poems were written... the perfect romance for my air/mind/mental self. He was in my arms, pressed against my body at one point... part of the show... was trying to give me a thrill I suppose. I think he feels an attraction often enough but I've seriously gotten FAT from quitting smoking and I see myself in pictures and feel sick. I can't see how he would feel any attraction to me now... but I know he does at the mental level and by now emotional as well. He is just really important in my life, I don't deny that. It is just so hard to struggle with WHAT it is meant to be when he is SO attractive to me. I admire so much about him. I know it is ridiculous what I feel though because I would need to know him a LOT more to actually truly "love" him as a partner. Love as a wonderful person yes, but as a partner it would take a LOT more knowing... not that I've ever "known" anyone I've been attracted to to that extent. It seems like I've only gotten to "know" friends and that is a long and difficult process itself. I don't even fully "know" people in my family. I guess that's why people say, "How much can you really KNOW someone anyway??"
The poem "Attention" is about the first 20 minutes or so of knowing him or meeting him. He had said something flirty to me and I said something like, "you wish" and he then stood in front of me talking to his friends directly in my space.
Arggg, sometimes I love it so much I can't breathe and sometimes it drives me so crazy I can't breathe.
It helps me grow though. Helps me to accept myself and love myself. After a LOT of searching. It's all good... just challenging. Because really it doesn't MATTER if it is a... whatever. It is what it IS.

*sigh*

posted September 28, 2010 12:34 AM         

Or, it could just be hormones.

~Almost Famous

posted September 29, 2010 12:13 AM         

Kat,? I have thought I have experienced something like that before but I always think I'm just crazy. I am probably denying growing psychic gifts out of fear. ;/ Does it happen to you a lot? Why do you not deny it to yourself... do you know many others who have those experiences?
I felt pretty hot when I first knew him and it didn't seem to work out all the way then either... his Sun is also opposite my Jup and Neptune so I think I am always either in fantasy or delusion and have SUCH time telling the difference.

posted September 29, 2010 11:45 AM         

Your Neptune oppose his Sun explains a lot too with the dreamy/fantasy-ness of it all *sigh*

posted September 30, 2010 12:59 PM         

Nepthys, we have so much Neptune. I found this book on the internet http://www.scribd.com/doc/8219806/Neptune-in-Synastry-and-the-Composite-Chart

and it is blowing my mind. I wish I could post some excerpts but it won't let me copy/paste. The first part is sun/neptune and the second moon/neptune. Gem and I have have both of these. I am neptune to his sun and he is neptune to my moon.

This book is really helping me come to terms with this energy. It is exactly on.

posted September 30, 2010 05:11 PM         

maybe i do have more faith. maybe it is because i have had these experiences while awake. i have had dreams too, but for me those are easily dismissed as wishful thinking...