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Chuckcem
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posted August 31, 2011 04:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chuckcem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So I'm the same guy who wrote this: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum10/HTML/004157.html

I'm a Leo male and I went out with my Cappy female friend for drinks last weekend (both moons are in Virgo). As always she called me to hang out, which generally means dinner and maybe a movie. I unfortunately met up with her half an hour late because of an accident on the freeway. I texted the situation to her the entire time I was on the road.

I finally get to the restaurant and saw that she was texting some guy. I ignored it and we start talking. She asked why I was not eating and I told her that I thought we were just drinking. We continued talking and she told me that one of her exes came to visit her because she was having a rough time with work. She didn't give me details of what was going on with her beyond that she was freaking out and he went to console her. I found this was odd because she has a track record of getting back with exes. I also know she recently broke up with an ex for a second time.

I ignore that too because this ex lives in San Diego and they hang out from time to time. She also told me about a project she was working on that stressed her out for a few weeks. She started to show me her work and I teased her not to because the subject matter sounded gross. She got annoyed and refused to show me her project after that. Of course said I was only kidding and ask to see it, but she refused.

This is where things get a little weird. I let her know that that I had a business meeting to go to later that night. I think this annoyed her because she asked why I didn't you tell her before. I apologized and told her I could push it back. She said not to because she was getting tired. For lack of a better word, we started getting snippy with each other. We continued talking and she mentioned how I showed up late and I told her that there was an accident and traffic. I could tell she was annoyed by my other obligation that night. I also got frustrated because I wanted to hang out with her and she wanted to cut the night short. It also annoyed me that she was still relying on her exes even after I told her that I cared about her.

She saw that I was frustrated and commented on it. I tend to get short with people when annoyed. I then said “Let’s cut to the chase” and discuss why I am frustrated. She said she didn’t know and I asked why invited me out if she was going to end the night early. She reiterated she was tired and that I had a meeting, so I dropped the conversation. She closed her tab and paid for my drink, which somehow I completely didn't notice until the next day. Frankly, dinner didn’t go that well.

As we walked out she asked where I was parked and I asked if she would walk me. She said she had to go my direction anyway. I apologized for getting frustrated. I explained that my meeting was to discuss some work issues that had been bugging me for the entire week. Of course my feelings with her also added to my stress that week, but I didn’t bring that up. We hugged goodbye as we normally do and I left. On my way to the car I apologized via text for not telling her about the meeting and for being late. The next day when I realized she paid for my drink, I apologized for not noticing and told her I would cover the next tab. She didn’t respond to any of my texts.

Realizing that I tend to get frustrated before I tell a girl my feelings, I emailed her a letter about my feelings for her a few days later. Of course I tried to call her, but she didn’t pick up. The letter was longer than I anticipated, but it was all good material. Plus I have known her for over a year. I told her that she did not need to respond and that I was not looking for an answer. I just needed her to know how I felt. I also have flowers arriving to her office later this week.

I just want to know how this sounds to a Cappy. How quickly do Cappies disregard a person? I know Cappies have a disappearing act, but from a Leo standpoint the act od disappearing means it’s done. When Leos disappear we are gone for good. I have literally heard nothing from this girl since dinner. I’ve talked to my friends about it and they think that beyond telling her how I feel I should stop talking to her. I’m just tired to thinking about the girl. From the last post I was told to just keep it friendly. I know I upped the ante since then, so I figured at this point I should follow my favorite motto, “Do nothing and they will come to you.” Any thoughts on this?

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starzy54
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posted August 31, 2011 07:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for starzy54     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
From a female cap perspective,I do make up excuses to end discussions or meetings early,if i find out my guest has other appointments.I kinda feel like the person is squeezing me into their open time frame,and I dont like to know there is a clock ticking away,it makes me feel bad,or like the person is meeting me out of charity.Odd yes but thats how i feel.So i would get upset too,for knowing you have to leave at such and such time,and all we have is such amount of time to talk.Personally I want to know i am the persons top priority...we are demanding.

I think its control issues here..my brother is a Leo,and we fight all the time.Someone always wants the last word,and it causes friction.I have a Leo asc,so I'm kinda tough like he is and our fights are screaming matches.Both of you have a hard time giving in and letting go of the control.

It kinda sounds like your one of the rare guys who manage to foul up her gameplans.You annoy her because your taking away her mystique and allure.She probably regrets divulging so much info about her personal life (its rare but happens when we have a strong connection to someone,but we do regret saying so much),and now feels she gave away her cards,and might be trying to show you she doesn't care about you (to get back her "indifference" toward you,as its a weapon we use,at least to me)..i think she wants control back.if you like her,it might help to be less tough with her,and not give her too much resistance.I don't like fighting for a guys attention,I want him to fight for mine.I think you did the right thing coming clean,and the flowers are a nice touch.time will tell..hope she gives you a chance,or some closure.Its not in me to never give a guy closure,I always do.If she doesn't,than,that just isn't Ladylike,like a Cap female wants to be thought of.We'r usually polite,and polished.

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Chuckcem
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posted August 31, 2011 09:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chuckcem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interesting, that is so weird because I already sent her a letter letting her know how I feel. I also have a people telling me to give her space because I probably am being too pushy with my emotions. So while I would like to be less tough with her, I have a feeling that being too sensitive will drive her away.

I posted this on another forum and got the advice that was the exact opposite: http://www.dxpnet.com/opinion/capricorn/Leo-Told-Cappie-How-He-Felt-2780455.asp

You can see my confusion.

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Lioness
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posted August 31, 2011 09:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well I think thats sweet you sending her flowers...
Now its up to her to do the next step, all you can do now is sit back and wait...

If she doesn't call to say at least thank you, then shes immature and not worthy.

I personally think your trying to hard.. You told her how you feel, now its up to her to figure out if she feels the same or not..

I know its a waiting game, but shrug IDK what else to tell you..

Be patient, dont contact her anymore, let her make the next move.
Let her think you gave up..

It also seems like she was picking a fight.. You told her about the car accident, then LATER after she threw it back at you...
Sounds weird.. She was just using what ever excuse she could come up with..

I dont like her.. LOL

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Chuckcem
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posted September 01, 2011 05:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chuckcem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I also have to admit that except for the past few occasions I have kept her at arms length. While I have always been there for her, there have been times when I have pushed her away (sometimes physically). The weird thing is I do this with every girl that I have feelings for, but am unsure about. Unless a girl completely throws herself at me I will keep her at bay until I can't stand it anymore. Cappy girl actually threw herself at me the first time (as much as a Capricorn will throw themselves), so that got me on the hook initially. Once she withdrew, so did I.

My Capricorn friend has definitely tried getting close to me at times, but there were times when she would say the wrong thing that would cause me to pull back. My big thing is I want a woman to be sure about herself and about me. I understand now that since I never expressed my feelings upfront, there was no way for her to be sure about me either. She and I both had Virgo moons too, so it's all about being nitpicky and doing small things for the person we care about.

For example, there have been times when she has said, "There are no good guys out there" or "I should just date you", to which I immediately I think, screw you! In my mind she's the one who ended things initially so she should be the one to fix it. Of course being a Leo I probably expect some grand gesture that a Capricorn wouldn't dare make. Interestingly enough when she said, "There are no good guys our there" she followed it with "You can hit me if you want".

Then there have been times when she has expressed a different sentiment such as, "I wanted to take you on a date". She said this once to me when she tried buying my movie ticket and I wouldn't let her. In my mind, it's my job to impress her. Then I remembered past relationships when I dated girls that insisted on everything being 50/50 (I loved them so much). So in the end, I bought tickets, she bought snacks. There have been other times when her best friend has come up to me unannounced and said things like, "You are the best thing that has happened to her" and "She adores you". To which I nod, smile, and brush it off.

I also told her that I don't like going out on dates. I explained that dates are all fake attempts to portray oneself in the best light possible. Dates always mean I have to pay for a girl that may or may not be interested in me. Instead I prefer hanging out with a girl first and once I get to know her. Then I can take her on a date. In my mind since she and I always hang out, that was my way of flirting with her while keeping my cool. She on the other hand probably didn’t read much into it or just got confused because she prefers dates.

This is just me trying to see the other side of things. As a Capricorn I understand that you need to test every rock and tread lightly, taking care to measure each foot step. As a Leo, I need to bear down on everything with my teeth to know if something is real. Since those traits don’t mesh, I will have to take a Capricorn approach.

If there any new developments I will keep you updated. I was notified that the flowers just arrived moments ago, so we’ll see.

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tenny22
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posted September 02, 2011 12:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for tenny22     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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tenny22
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posted September 02, 2011 12:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for tenny22     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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tenny22
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posted September 02, 2011 12:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for tenny22     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
She is playing a game, but probably because she is not sure how she feels about you in comparison to who ever else is keeping her attention.

She likes you, but she is not sure what she wants from you or how you fit into her scheme of a relationship.

Do you meet her "standards?" (All that means is what she thinks is a perfect guy).

She sounds very comfortable that you will always be there for her.

You can chase after her or move on to someone else (which should get her attention and make her reconsider - can't guarantee what her ultimate response will be though).

For some cappy girls there are "nice guys" who love her, and then there are "not so nice guys" who she wants to love her because she thinks they are perfect for her.

While your letter was probably sweet, she thinks she needs to be swept off her feet. Constantly wooed and sought after. A complete kiss-my-ass-because-you-want-me expectation. Totally unrealistic, but unfortunately true.

Also sounds like she may be distracted by her ex - unfinished business - Reconnecting to re-experience or re-ignite something special perhaps.

Flowers sound like a nice touch. Stop calling, stop emailing and keep busy. You may just get another shot at wooing her.

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AscTaurus
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posted September 02, 2011 08:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AscTaurus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Personaly, I think Capricorn women are the slowest to "bag"(excuse my language).

What I mean by that is that she is an earth sign and feeling/emotions don't come easily to this sign because, most times, she is either ignoring them/suppressing them/ rationaliazing them. Either way you look at it, she is not acknowledging them and probably wont acknowledge them for a long tme to come.

I think that, especially since you are a fire-Leo, it could take her some time to figure out how she actually feels about you.

Fire people(though very attrcative) can give the vibe that they are not really sincere, no matter how deeply they profess their feelings-especially to earth/water sign people.

Capricorn is slow when it comes to feelings and emotions and so its best not to rush them and let them make up their minds(when they are ready). And to the fire sign, this may not be the news that they expect to hear because fire instinctively "knows" how they feel about someone and don't need time to "sort things out."

Remember that with a Cappy, you are dealing with the"task master". She probably already sees you as someone whom she can "parent" and that may already end the attraction that she feels because to her, it may mean added responsibility.

The last thing a Capricorn needs, and no matter how dilligent their repuation is said to be, is "added responisbility" -especailly in the arena they feel less sure of themselves in(like LOVE).

Capricorn women also have a tendency of , when they are not playing the parental role, being attracted to someone who seems emotionally cold and distant.

This may not necessarily be the case, however, with the individual concerned. Only that, they may be shy to show emotions etc and so when you said
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"So while I would like to be less tough with her, I have a feeling that being too sensitive will drive her away."
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I though: "Wow. Spot on. That is exactly how I know mine to behave."

The question is "does she see you as someone whom is "better" than her? Does she feel that she can gain a great deal by being with you?Or I could stand corrected and she could enjoy playing the parental role in your relationship?

You need to just take your time,wait and see.But, in any case, leo and Cappy relations are far from easy.....


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Chuckcem
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posted September 03, 2011 05:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chuckcem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well it is what it is. I didn't realize I had a message from her earlier saying that she doesn't have those same feelings for me and that she never will. She thanked me for my honesty and friendship, but said she was now uncomfortable because she had to repeat herself a year later. She said she has enjoyed my friendship thus far, but does not see it going any further. Then she gave me her personal email to contact her in the future (since I only had her business email). Why bother? I'm taking her words to mean that a continued friendship with her at this point is no longer possible. Time to bury this situation.

The best part is, the flowers showed up hours later.

It's cool though, this is a load off of my back. I didn't tell her how I felt for her benefit, I did it for mine. Selfish I know, but now I can stop thinking about her. I like my relationships with people to be straight forward. Whatever I had with her just didn't make sense to me, which I found annoying. Also everything was always about her, so I'm not losing anything. She literally left me with no regrets.

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amelia28
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posted September 13, 2011 11:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Stop giving her the power to play with you!

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amelia28
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posted September 13, 2011 11:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by amelia28:
You apologize to her way too much. You need to love yourself more, you are been masochistic. You have a rescue complex, or low self esteem or both. You need to let her go, you might have great chemistry but she is not good for you. Maybe on another lifetime she will have evolved more and be more on your level and you can then have a healthy relationship but for now been with this girl is inhibiting your growth and putting your growth on hold, stagnant. I think she is in your life because you need to learn to set boundaries and you need to learn to let go.

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browneyes42
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posted September 17, 2011 10:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for browneyes42     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am a Capricorn female. I read both of you posts here and feel really bad for how she treated you like that. I don't think she is a typical Cappy. I and few Cappy friends, we are very loyal, responsible and caring.

We need a lot of reassurance in our man, just a simply "thinking of you" or "miss ya" will bring light into our day, at least for me. Because we just needed to know that we are with you. We don't react normal in love that's a fact, or you can call that we are SLOW. We tend to think about all the circumstances around anything, often over-analyzing things which only make us miss our chances to respond to things immediately. We are really patience and loving, if we fell in love, we fall hard and really stubborn. We don't let go easily and will try to work things out.

My opinion on you Cappy is, she fell for you too fast at the beginning and you didn't tell her your true feeling upfront, that made her over-analyzed your character. I do believe her telling her friend how much she adores you. Because we do tell our close friends about the man of our dream but won't tell you until you show us you are 100% sure about the relationship. Not that we don't want you to know, but we hate to be put in situations and will hate to do that to other people.

Show her your tenderness. And tell her that how much you hate her EXs and wish not to hear that again. She will pick up the signal.

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amelia28
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posted September 17, 2011 11:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I know a lot capricorn women and they are all in stable committed lasting relationships. Capricorns are reserved until they know you are serious but they do not play games like this capricorn chick is doing. Her instability and how she keeps getting back with her exes screams boderline personality disorder. People with boderline personality disorder need a lot of attention and reassurance and see people black and white. Boderline personality disorder people are stuck cognitively, psychologically and emotionally in their teenage years.

*Capricorns typically are the exact opposite of unstable so yes she is definitely not a typical capricorn.

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