posted September 01, 2011 04:04 AM            

You're right they pull every bit of information about you and your life out of you and will give you all the ear you need, but when it comes to you going more deeply into their emotion the responses are very surface like and cold to some measure (almost without any feeling). I found that with the focus always being on me and my life it eventually started to fry my mind -- too much talking about self almost keeps you too mind orientated and out of being. I also felt that he had an inability to express real raw emotion and like you wondered how much he really cared about me.

If I were to begin all over again with him I'd not give so much of myself, the personal self...the little private areas and thoughts. I say that because it's easy to get caught in a cycle and role.

I'm not saying not to give. It's important for you to be yourself and feel free to do that and to trust your own intuition about when and how to move in a relationship. Don't go against yourself or your natural inclinations.

I've noticed that whenever I decide to not be in contact with him because there is something unsatisfying about our emotional connection - being that it feels he doesn't let me in. He seems to have a radar of some kind and he's back in touch. Even with all that said I do know he loves me, he just can't/won't express it in the ways I need and that's something which I've thought about a lot. He is just the way he is and so I see I must accept that in him, and not be so caught up in what I want him to be. I'm allowing the relationship to be whatever it is now and slowly our communication is becoming more balanced.

I don't find the same thing in Aquarius Sun people though.

posted September 01, 2011 09:53 PM            

Thank you so much for your reply! I really appreciated how much you disclosed regarding your relationship and experiences with your Aqua moon man!
You and I are so much alike and have had such similar experiences it is a bit scary. It gave me comfort to know someone out there is going through the same thing and has the same thoughts. Like you, I shared so many of my private sides hoping that he would trust me and be inspired to do the same. I don't think I would do it again either. I know there is a connection even when we are apart. I also feel like he wants to share, but somehow cannot feel comfortable with it. Every sentence you wrote had relevance to my experience. BTW, you are a great writer! I think you would do well to write whenever the opportunity presents.

I am not sure why, but today my Aqua guy actually opened up even just a little more than usual. Hopefully we will both be experiencing more communication and the closeness that we desire with our loved one!

Fireopal, I am curious about the rest of your chart if you are okay with sharing that. His chart, too!

posted September 03, 2011 03:04 PM            

Wow! What a chart! I really don't know much about astrology, but I know enough to see what an interesting chart you have! It makes sense to me. I think if you couldn't make AM (aqua moon) open up, it's close to impossible!

My AM friend called and took me to a wonderful romantic type expensive restaurant for lunch yesterday. Then, he was so "blank" it was shocking! No smile, no light in the eyes, just blank. I did tell him after seeing this that I was hoping for more "balance" in the
relationship with me not doing all the sharing. I actually
picked up on this word from you in your post. You would think as a Libra I would have thought of it! But the word balance (or lack thereof) really appropriately describes the situation. You really do have a way with words and expression. I think I need to take the same attitude and just accept him for the way he is and for whatever he may or may not feel. Oh, and then as we were leaving he says we need to get together more
often and I know he means it! He has already emailed a few times since, but I still feel so confused.

posted September 03, 2011 04:43 PM            

Some of the Mercury placements are strong in my chart like Mercury conjunct Venus and Mercury conjunct Neptune. These probably give me the ability to blend the mind & communication with thoughtfulness. I have a few squares with the Moon with Mercury, Venus & Mars. The Moon/Venus can point to having my own difficulties with intimacy, so there is understanding there.

Moon in 1st house gives sensitivity, empathy, I feel people/emotions/thoughts...telepathic.

Lots of placements in Scorpio and Pluto in 8th house helps me go to the core of things bypassing all the nonsense. Could also be the South Node in Cancer which brings the need to care for people.

Your chart and mine would also come into this, because we can hear each other beyond the words.

Laying Astrology aside for a moment. I'd say that it's about getting in touch with yourself, knowing yourself and being yourself!! Be true to who you are.

The chart above is from astro.com Libragem, you can go there and get your own chart or do a synastry chart with your boyfriend which will give you more answers and help you understand in a different way.

It could even be that he lacks confidence in expressing his ideas and dreams or he may not feel good enough. It could be so many things. If he's taking you out for romantic meals then this is a very good sign He likes you and wants to spend his time with you. If you can try to enjoy it, don't doubt it - you've both met and that doesn't happen by chance, try to let it be what it wants to be.

There are many helpful people here that do readings in the readings section - you'll need time of birth, date of birth, place of birth to enter it into astro.com

posted September 05, 2011 10:05 AM            

It makes sense that others have mentioned your ability to write as well. When you write from the depths of your heart and soul, I think you are able to express as you aptly said, something beyond words! It's a rare thing indeed! You really sound like an amazing person. I understand completely the situation you experienced with your friend who needed help. We sure do have some things in common! When I was younger I would feel pending airplane crashes. It was always something tragic. It doesn't happen anymore and I am
glad for that!

I went to astro.com and did the charts. My friend also has the moon in Aquarius in the first house! I think the two of you have other things in common as well! Funny, huh? The synastry between us is great according to what I read. I must be a little crazy because the reality is that this man will only ever be a good friend in my life. I do love and admire him though and would love to know if I make him feel any of the pleasure he makes me feel knowing him. All this is on a spiritual, non physical basis. If anyone would understand all this, something tells me that you would
fireopal!

I guess I should feel somewhat special since he is trying to share more. He is not sharing feelings, but more life experiences. It's funny, one day I told him that he had the most eyes amazing eyes i had ever seen with the brightest light that shines thru. For the next several weeks he wouldn't look at me. He looked down and hid his eyes whether we were alone or with others! I told him a couple days ago that his eyes inspired me to write poetry and much to my surprise he said he was looking forward to reading it!

BTW, this is actually the first time I have ever been on a forum. In searching for information on trying to figure out this guy, I ran across this. I read all Linda's books when I was a lot younger so I checked it out. You are right, there are some very interesting and caring people here. You are certainly one of them!

posted September 05, 2011 10:37 AM            

It makes sense that others have mentioned your ability to write as well. When you write from the depths of your heart and soul, I think you are able to express as you aptly said, something beyond words! It's a rare thing indeed! You really sound like an amazing person. I understand completely the situation you experienced with your friend who needed help. We sure do have some things in common! When I was younger I would feel pending airplane crashes. It was always something tragic. It doesn't happen anymore and I am
glad for that!

I went to astro.com and did the charts. My friend also has the moon in Aquarius in the first house! I think the two of you have other things in common as well! Funny, huh? The synastry between us is great according to what I read. I must be a little crazy because the reality is that this man will only ever be a good friend in my life. I do love and admire him though and would love to know if I make him feel any of the pleasure he makes me feel knowing him. All this is on a spiritual, non physical basis. If anyone would understand all this, something tells me that you would
fireopal!

I guess I should feel somewhat special since he is trying to share more. He is not sharing feelings, but more life experiences. It's funny, one day I told him that he had the most eyes amazing eyes i had ever seen with the brightest light that shines thru. For the next several weeks he wouldn't look at me. He looked down and hid his eyes whether we were alone or with others! I told him a couple days ago that his eyes inspired me to write poetry and much to my surprise he said he was looking forward to reading it!

BTW, this is actually the first time I have ever been on a forum. In searching for information on trying to figure out this guy, I ran across this. I read all Linda's books when I was a lot younger so I checked it out. You are right, there are some very interesting and caring people here. You are certainly one of them!

posted September 06, 2011 01:51 PM            

When you are in connection with someone there is no way for them not to be touched by you. When you told me that he kept looking down when he was in your company it immediately brought to me the Moon in 1st House. The emoitons are exposed here, the way he feels will be written on his face, internally he will feel that he cannot hide whatever it is he is experiencing in each moment so there is a sense of being on display at times with this placement and if his nature is preffering to be behind the scenes or if he is shy in his nature this can feel uneasy. Because you were able to see him, and see the beauty in him he will have felt seen by you. Shining eyes - the ones with the spark of light in them show a very beautiful spirit.

posted September 14, 2011 12:16 AM            

I hope you are doing well. Are things still going well with your friend? How are you? Have you been writing? I certainly hope so. Have you ever written poetry?

posted September 18, 2011 03:37 AM            

The Aqua Moon guy I know is treating me unkindly right now, he's ignoring me!!! deliberately!!! **laughing** (he has a lot to learn)

posted September 18, 2011 10:10 AM            

So, the reason I will never be with my Aqua Moon is that we are both already in long term committed relationships. It sounds strange, I know. There is no way that either of us would be unfaithful. I love the person I am with too. I think there are different kinds of love sometimes or so I am learning. I love the AM man as a person in the world. He has qualities that are very uncommon and he is a true altruist. Only a few times in my life have I met anyone with this kind of spirit. So naturally, I am attracted to him. He makes me feel hope for the world. It's probably a little selfish of me to wonder if he he views me as someone a little more special in his life, or if I am just like everyone else. I would like to think that I inspire him the way he inspires me. That's all really. If we were both available, I am not sure I could handle a relationship with him. I would need more time and personal attention from him than i think he would be capable of giving any one person! Who knows though. There is just a connection and feeling there on my end that is unusual- unlike anything I have experienced before. With the situation, however, it cannot go further. I have never felt that he is wanting anything clandestine or I probably wouldn't feel the same way about him! He is just a beautiful person. I see him forever helping other people and putting other people first. I hope that makes some sense. He has been a wonderful friend and that's really all I can ask for. He is pretty amazing though, and I would be lying if I said he didn't stir my soul in more ways than one! It's just very confusing to me sometimes since I have never experienced anything like this before and I am not a young inexperienced person either.

posted September 18, 2011 12:14 PM            

It was to the point I would ask the most blunt, direct question about US and/or his feelings only needing yes or no answers, and he would actually start talking about something else, usually work. He would blatantly do that and see me getting frustrated with him. I ask him even now, 2 years later, how he is going and will only give me details about either work or sometimes his family and that is only if he feels like replying. He will not at all talk to me about anything more than that concerning him unless its stress about work, that's about as much emotion as he will give after 2 years.

Ignoring him makes him want to contact me more, usualy via a different method to the previous one used, but it will not make him open up. It was to the point I have had no closure for 2 years after the relationship yet he won't let me go because he initiates contact often via work means which goes onto other things. I pretty much had to go off at him and tell him how much that has affected me for him to say 'maybe we should meet up and talk abotu this over a drink'. We still haven't met up but I will be organising this soon.

I think even when he opened up to me about experiences and everything like that, he was not really OPEN about his own emotions anyway directly to do with the relationship anyway and I think he was just like that.. not sure if it was the gemini or the aqua here. Difficult beings they are, even conjuncting my ASC lol.

So I think it doesn't matter if you reply or not because it doesn't matter HOW much you give them they will keep to themselves however much they want to, and will open up when they are good and ready to if ever.
just my opinion and i think there is no harm in replying at all, but just don't expect anything. Actually that's what I have learnt, to have No expectations and if I get a reply then so be it. Often he will intiate contact with me if I haven't been talking to him for a month or two.

posted September 20, 2011 04:31 AM            

---Very interesting libragem...Yes he will come back, he always does, but his difficulty is in being open enough to tell it like it is, to give what he needs to give so that there can be a way forward for us in truth. One way or the other he holds the truth for both of us to find peace in our connection and it really is up to him to come forward with his truth as I have done all I can to help, guide and be honest with him so that real progress and a new way open up for both of us. But if he won't or can't do it then he keeps us locked in a very unsettling and unsatisfying place together and if he won't bring his truth forward then there is nothing I can do about it --- may take another lifetime to resolve. And yes...it's been very hard indeed -- to be patient with someone and to watch them from the outside knowing that things can be so much freer and easier, but again - nothing I can do to change what he chooses. It was interesting what you said about with me being Aqua Moon too...I'd never thought about it until you said it....and I wonder how I am perceived and if I may unknowingly be cool and cold without even being aware of it myself??? I don't know the answer to that.

(((So, the reason I will never be with my Aqua Moon is that we are both already in long term committed relationships. It sounds strange, I know. There is no way that either of us would be unfaithful. I love the person I am with too. I think there are different kinds of love sometimes or so I am learning.))))

----Doesn't sound strange at all, I've had friendships in the past where I have been incredibly drawn to someone (and usually not even aware in the beginning that they are with someone) and just holding the space of admiration for them and what they do, who they are or what they stand for in life. There is only one love, but I agree there are a multitude of ways to express love. In those instances where I've either held a huge regard for someone or they have been in a relationship, but the chemistry was massively there between us...I've just quietly kept it to myself and there is something pure about that in its own way because it can be idealic in some way and so no hurt ever touches the relationship and no really seeing them in a less light than a soul to soul looking. However, I'm thinking that your own heart prompts you to the truth and that even though external actions/circumstances may be saying one thing, the heart is saying another and it's doing that for a reason...and also, I find if you don't face the (if you want to call it a lesson) --- it repeats itself again and again until you really find out and act on or integrate what life is trying to tell you about yourself....e.g are you denying yourself?? are you forgoing your own happiness?? and so on......

(((I love the AM man as a person in the world. He has qualities that are very uncommon and he is a true altruist. Only a few times in my life have I met anyone with this kind of spirit. So naturally, I am attracted to him. He makes me feel hope for the world.))))

----Yes I understand this well. I recall a man I met a long time ago and I was super aware of what he did for others and they couldn't even see it!! All kinds of little things to help them on their way and he would always put others before himself....I truly admired that and made a point of seeing it in him. Sometimes I think just recognising it in others is enough, like you have shared your sight in an area with him where perhaps no-one else notices or perhaps he doesn't ever get the appreciation or gratitude for doing so much in these areas...so I think that because you notice this is giving the recognition he deserves and it will be felt by him.

(((It's probably a little selfish of me to wonder if he he views me as someone a little more special in his life, or if I am just like everyone else. I would like to think that I inspire him the way he inspires me. That's all really.))))

----I don't think that's selfish at all. You have to look into your own heart and see what it's telling you...the truth always wins out even if you do take detours. My thinking is that his spirit will recognise you. Realise that you are the one experiencing this and that it comes to you for a reason and to honour your own feelings here and see that what you can see in him is also in yourself and so what you share with him will also be seen by him too in his own way and in the way he needs it also.

posted September 20, 2011 04:42 AM            

--- yes mostly this has been my experience, a full on opening in the beginning and a clampdown thereafter. He never got upset with me (well openly anyways), but completely shut.

(((It was to the point I would ask the most blunt, direct question about US and/or his feelings only needing yes or no answers, and he would actually start talking about something else, usually work. He would blatantly do that and see me getting frustrated with him. I ask him even now, 2 years later, how he is going and will only give me details about either work or sometimes his family and that is only if he feels like replying. He will not at all talk to me about anything more than that concerning him unless its stress about work, that's about as much emotion as he will give after 2 years.))))

--- I understand this too, the feedback is minimal and fleeting- scarce.

(((Ignoring him makes him want to contact me more, usualy via a different method to the previous one used, but it will not make him open up. It was to the point I have had no closure for 2 years after the relationship yet he won't let me go because he initiates contact often via work means which goes onto other things. I pretty much had to go off at him and tell him how much that has affected me for him to say 'maybe we should meet up and talk abotu this over a drink'. We still haven't met up but I will be organising this soon.)))

--- Again, I understand the not having closure too. And no matter how much I tried to express all different vantage points, all the ways how I felt, all the ways to resolve, all the ways to make things move in a new way it lead to repeat patterns and yes, like you the man I was seeing only gets in touch when I'm totally done and through ....or....if someone else comes on the horizon and makes me feel all smiley again. I think it's a good idea for you to have it out with him and get some blooming truth...failing that sometimes I think you just have to move on and know that you did absolutely all you could for them and you did your part and your best.

(((I think even when he opened up to me about experiences and everything like that, he was not really OPEN about his own emotions anyway directly to do with the relationship anyway and I think he was just like that.. not sure if it was the gemini or the aqua here. Difficult beings they are, even conjuncting my ASC lol.)))

-- Again that's similar to how I felt, that even when he appeared/s to be open he's not...the wall is in place and it's sad because they are just keeping themselves from experiencing something very liberating and full of happiness, but again it's important not to allow yourself to be dimmed by such actions in another. I'm an Aqua Moon too and I really hope I don't put people through these kind of things and if I did I really hope they would talk to me and that I would take it on board. It's very unfair to keep people 'OUT' and in the cold and to also keep them confused or hanging on.

((( Actually that's what I have learnt, to have No expectations and if I get a reply then so be it. Often he will intiate contact with me if I haven't been talking to him for a month or two.)))

--Yes, this is where I am at now. But I realise it's not enough for me. And he will lose me very soon.

posted September 20, 2011 07:58 PM            

Fireopal, I feel your heart. The emotion coming through your last post is unmistakable. I wish there was something I could do for all of us!!! You are a very insightful, deep person. I can understand that the situation can't go on indefinitely, it's just so apparent how much you care for this guy so it is sad if it has to end. Love can be challenging sometimes. Is the rest or his chart difficult as well? How long have you known him?

I don't have much time right now, but wanted to let you know I appreciate what you are feeling and what you wrote. I am thinking of you! Back in touch soon!

posted September 21, 2011 09:22 AM            

The problem is when you are through and done with them, for the final time, they just come back. The only thing you can do in this case is to be strong and not reciprocate and be totally cold. They will try harder, but I am sure they will eventually give up, I'm not sure because I haven't reached that yet with the person I am experiencing this with.

My situation is a little different whereas I need contact with him regarding work. I find it incredibly difficult to just tell him to go away, I am not as strong especially when we have to have some sort of professional relationship. I am also a sucker for his charms and he always says things to make me laugh - we have heaps of other connections in our synastry chart - and I am too forgiving / brush things away socially when I am talking with a person so that my interactions are all light and nice, which I think is partially due to my Libra moon ...then get angry after the fact when I think about what game they are playing. But he has already got one over me because he got a positive reaction out of me and that has probably made him feel better and just encourages the way that he treats me.

So it goes like this
AQUA MOON- strikes up a friendly convo
you - reciprocates friendly convo
AQUA MOON - keeps contacting you about stuff
you - reciprocate his ccontact
AQUA MOON - realises that you keep reciprocating so doesn't respond
you - contact him... whats going on?
*crickets chirping*
you - seriously, what's going on???
*crickets chirping*
you - helloooooooooooooooo???
*crickets chirping*
you - walks off in a huff or hurt or confused
AQUA MOON - realises you have walked away and contacts you again
you - reciprocate his contact
*crickets chirping*
*2 MONTHS PASS*
AQUA MOON - realises you haven't contacted him so contacts you
you - reciprocate his contact
*crickets chirping*

... and so on.

I have NO idea what the hell is wrong with them lol

and I have an aqua ascendant! i would never intentionally ignore someone, even if they had done wrong by me, I would just not be as friendly or tell them - aries mercury hehe, but I wouldn't completely ignore someone on purpose!

posted September 21, 2011 05:28 PM            

Aqua moon- what's happening?
Me- oh, not too much. I did have a really interesting morning though.
Aqua man- what happened?
Me- oh, it's nothing really.
Aqua moon- what happened? Tell me. What happened this morning?
Me- Well, I really don't feel like talking about it right now since I am still trying to sort it out.
Aqua moon- just tell me.
Me- I will tell you someday soon. I wouldn't tell just anyone, but I would tell you when I feel ready.
Aqua moon- I had a great morning, too. It was really amazing. ( he was so serious ) it was just great.
Me- wonderful! What happened?
Aqua moon- oh, I will tell you someday! Haha!

He did the same thing to me knowingly! He had me convinced that he also had an great morning, only to give me a taste of what I had given him!

Then, he always wants me to be around and makes sure that I will be somewhere and then goes blank and even acts like he is uncomfortable that I am there! So confusing! I feel like telling him that I will just go and why did he even bother?

Fireopal commented on one post that there is no balance in the relationship with them. It is so hard. I have to wonder if it just a barrier so they won't be open to anyone ever hurting them. It's sort of a clever way of hurting themselves too!

Fireopal, you really have a way of making me think! You drop wisdom in the words that you write!!! When you said there is only one love, I realized that you are right! It has me questioning many things and reasons for some of the feelings that I have. I guess I have some work to do, huh? I wish I had the words to express how truly amazing you are!!! A wise old soul you are!

Since I am new to forums, it feels like the three of us are all connected! How wonderful to have this support! It would be interesting to see if these three men have similarities in their charts since they seem so alike!

I know how hard it is with these guys! Charming! Oh, so smart and charming! It's hard to give up on them! And yes, they won't really let you!

posted December 17, 2014 04:25 PM            

I must said I was opening myself slowly as time progressed, but as she was more affectionate and getting more intimate, I shut myself quite a bit and that made her a bit ****** and she shutted down as well, then, as I couldn't make myself open to talk with her cause I developed anxiety issues, I asked a "friend" to talk a bit if she responds.

A few months passed then we resumed our conversations, we were getting pretty well again, and we were getting intimate on many things, but again, she was the one who showed more affection, but I was finally showing a bit more, slowly, cause my emotions were growing and growing and I wanted to do things slowly, but since those times passed she and that friend eventually started a romantic fling behind my back as I was getting ready to express her my feeling, something I rarely do, because we were pretty close by then, but, after seeing them together, I had an emotional outburst and expressed myself to her in that state, being drunk.

So after drifting apart, I never been able to open up to the fullest to her again, even if we slowly regained contact, faster than expected and she told me that she still cared.

Then on my birthday I expected to talk with her to get some closure and move foward, but she and my "friend" were together all night long, being apart from the people around and kissed in front of me, with all of that she slept in my house (no sex or sleeping together), and confessed me some kind of very friendly, borderline lovey-dovey things and promised to me to gave me a portrait she took of me (She's a photographer).

Since then we just crossed paths once, and just last weekend received the portrait. I still want this closure, but I think I'll never open up myself to her again, cause all of the pain felt, and I'll probably be hangin' to this for a long time.

All of this comes from a Scorpio sun, with a lot of bad aspects in the emocional realm, the moon squares the sun, mars and pluto.

Probably what I want to say is: We open ourselves at our own pace, some may never open up to the fullest to anyone, life experiences, sometimes you require patience to let the man open up, I think you've got to reassure the man that you love ( or care) him, and then probably He'll come back, but if there was a bad ending or some kind of hurt/deceit, he will probably never open up to the fullest again.

And I needed to vent some xD. Sorry if I didn't was of any help, but I wanted to tell you this from the POV of an Aquarius Moon dealing with emotions, others will be different that's for sure