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Delilah
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posted January 16, 2012 07:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Delilah     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@IamLoved there's no way of getting around all of the crap to get to the real thing. I swing back and forth between how you feel and being more optimistic. There are days when I'm so happy I swear there's valium in the air. Then there are days like today when I was really hopeful of reconciliation and pretty much had a door slammed in my face by someone I thought was amazing. This happens a lot to me, but the thing is you just have to accept that what you have to give and want in return just won't be with that person. To be honest, that person doesn't deserve you. This isn't reason enough to give up. I look at it as needing to re-evaluate what I think is my type or needing to have better standards the next time because no one who cares about you will treat you like something they stepped in.

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posted January 16, 2012 08:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for scorpmoon2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Someone gave me this advice when I was thinking the same thing: it's better to be alone than in a bad relationship. And let's face it, there are some bad relationships out there that bring people more heartache in the long run.

And sometimes when you find that you are loved, it doesn't end up meaning what you always dreamed or hoped it would be.

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posted January 16, 2012 10:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Me, too! I started my own thread just after Christmas, about the same thing.

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posted January 16, 2012 11:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for T     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sort of in the same boat. I don't like to say I gave up because I don't feel that way. I'm just not interested. I've had a number of serious loves and don't care to get into one again with another person. I've got enough to focus on with myself. Feel like I've had enough loves for one lifetime and am happy with what i've experienced already.

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posted January 16, 2012 11:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for T     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Also I know that I physically, mentally and emotionally can not handle anymore emotional trauma of any kind. I've become too fragile and worn down from it all so it's healthiest that I don't put myself in that position again. It's too risky for all aspects of my health and well being.

It's rare to meet someone who i feel i could trust and was mature enough to have a healthy relationship with.

It's just not worth it anymore to me. And that's fine.

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posted January 17, 2012 12:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It would be nice if there were more support for women in being single (if they want to be), rather than so much focus being put on the "poor dear" aspect of it, and "it will happen when you least expect it' (if that were true, I would have been snapped up years ago).

I remember being really annoyed by the idea that my wedding day had been predetermined to be the happiest day of my life, just because I was a girl.

I've never had a great love, though (nothing strongly mutual, so it doesn't count to me). Just a small bunch of disappointments and head-scratchers. If anything, I grieve any wasted time, that either involved one of those guys, or me feeling inadequate/depressed/etc. Although it would at least have been nice to have that first great love. My life is weird.

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posted January 17, 2012 12:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted January 17, 2012 02:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for T     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted January 17, 2012 02:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for T     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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RegardesPlatero
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posted January 17, 2012 04:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RegardesPlatero     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
@bettyboop,i totally agree with what you are saying, my opinion is that everyone is too idealistic about love,they want the magical man or woman to contain a whole bunch of qualities that no real person can ever live up to so that person is forever unsatisfied in love,take my mom for example who is in her 50s and has complained for years about not feeling loved and not being able to find a man with a stable job or ambition,and a man who wants commitment,now such a man has found my mom,he is loving,caring,a family man,and has a good job,and loves mom and wants marriage and commitment,now she just told me lastnight she will probably leave him because he is too clingy and needy,and he isnt as fun as the other men she has dated,so she has now rejected what she says she has wanted in man,she wanted a commited loving relationship,but misses the emotionally unavailable guys who were fun and spontaneous, you cant have it all,no relationship is perfect,there are always going to be dissagreements and things you dont like about someone,but you can find someone who will love you for you,but they arent going to be perfect,you just have to figure out what is the most important thing you want out of a relationship

well-said!

Personally, I myself would rather deal with someone who wasn't as spontaneous or "fun" but who was caring, loving, and stable rather than some bad boy (and yes, those types are boys, not mature men) who didn't care about me at all and who didn't respect me, or whom I could not trust.

Venus in Scorpio here, enough said. ;-)

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posted January 17, 2012 04:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RegardesPlatero     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by teasel:
It would be nice if there were more support for women in being single (if they want to be), rather than so much focus being put on the "poor dear" aspect of it, and "it will happen when you least expect it' (if that were true, I would have been snapped up years ago).

I remember being really annoyed by the idea that my wedding day had been predetermined to be the happiest day of my life, just because I was a girl.
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Seriously, BLESS YOU for that one!

I myself feel the same way.

I hate it that a person's worth, especially a woman's, is based on whether or not she gets married and has children.

A person's worth is based on their soul beauty, in my humble opinion. It's based on who that person is in terms of their individuality and the loveliness contained within him or her--NOT on marital status or family status.

I also agree with you regarding that the whole spiel about "it will happen when you least expect it". Frankly, it very much irritates me when people say it, because it's an outright lie and creates false hope (I have a Sag ASC, Saturn, and Uranus). Telling people that will only lead to their getting heartbroken if it never happens. To me, a much more honest and healthy approach would be to teach people to love and value themselves no matter what, rather than belittle or pity those who are single.

I also get annoyed with how much fuss there is over wedding days: I mean yeah, it's nice to have a beautiful dress and nice venue and all, but some people go to such extremes and put themselves into so much debt over just one day and don't put the same effort into the relationship. I think that too many people focus on getting married just to be married and have that "pretty princess moment" without being really taught about how to make a marriage happy and successful. A wedding and an actual marriage are two very different things. I don't feel that girls today are really prepared for marriage--and I do deliberately use the term "girls" rather than women. I feel that young girls are brought up with this idea that a wedding is basically like prom, only bigger and you have to live with the guy afterwards. I feel that it's very important that girls (who then go on to become women) be taught more realistic things about marriage--not that they are encouraged to "settle", or that they should be with someone who doesn't treat them right, but that they should know what marital relationships are really like and what to expect: something more balanced.

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posted January 18, 2012 05:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for IamLoved     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks everyone for your kind words... I'm feeling better now

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posted January 18, 2012 10:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by teasel:
It would be nice if there were more support for women in being single (if they want to be), rather than so much focus being put on the "poor dear" aspect of it, and "it will happen when you least expect it' (if that were true, I would have been snapped up years ago).

I remember being really annoyed by the idea that my wedding day had been predetermined to be the happiest day of my life, just because I was a girl.

I've never had a great love, though (nothing strongly mutual, so it doesn't count to me). Just a small bunch of disappointments and head-scratchers. If anything, I grieve any wasted time, that either involved one of those guys, or me feeling inadequate/depressed/etc. Although it would at least have been nice to have that first great love. My life is weird.


Any woman who tells me they want to be single...my reaction is like you go girl and Awesome! I completely feel you, been single is fun. But when a woman tells me that they want to be in a relationship but haven't had luck so are resigning on love then I don't think to myself "Awesome, she wants to be single!!!"

It depends on the reason why a person wants to be single...there are a lot of people that are single bc they like it and want to be and every time I meet someone like that I feel really happy for them and give them a high five but Iamloved is not saying she likes been single she is saying that she is giving up on love...There is a difference.

I have felt like that a few times in my life but at the end of the day I am a fighter and a lover at the same time and will never give up on love but will change how I approach it and view it if needed and changing how you approach love and view it is the key and having a high self esteem.

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posted January 19, 2012 12:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh, Amelia, I was just talking in general. Sorry, I didn't mean to aim that at anyone here - I was feeling sorry for myself recently, because of my own disappointments. It's just that hardly anyone seems to believe a woman when she says she prefers being single. That's all.

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posted January 19, 2012 03:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for woah cakes     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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@Woah Cake

Yes... I feel your pain!!! OMG! I loved that man soooo much and he wasn't even that nice to me.... I have an overwelming amount of compassion for him... and he reminds me so much of myself.... him in a mascaline way and me in a feminine way...

But I totally understand where you are coming from

It's like you know they could treat you so much better but like a magnet we are drawn to them anyway. I think the women have it worse then the men....

I think us women are the ones who give of ourselves more and the guys hurt us and because we love them so much we still try to make it work... but they give us the cold shoulder.

That aspect in the composite chart is not to be taken lightly!

I know there are guys who are good too! And they go out of their way to help the woman they love, I just wish I had one of those men in my life! A GOOD MAN who loves me and goes out their way for me for a change.... it's always like I'm going out my way for the guys I like.... cooking, buying them things.... making them things.... etc... When will a man go out of his way for me?

I know alot of my friends have guys who will spoil them rotten... but they also had a father in their life that spoiled them rotten, so they have been used to such royal treatment since childhood


i think that is the problem right there (the bold).. this aspect is SUCH a ..well, vortex! it feels so amazing and ideal that everything else feels irrelevant. thus we accept shizzy treatment and/or whatever else. i dunno if it also contributes to a sense of being taken care of as well but that was overwhelmingly the m.o. of my sun/moon composite cj man when we were first together; he acted like he was going to take-care-of-me which i had never felt before and was very alluring. and i'm an extremely independent woman who never before that even felt that i wanted that type of relationship. i am very nurturing myself but i somehow felt totally safe and that there was this sacred give and take element that exceeded expectation.

my guess is that you are feeling your saturn return approaching and that after it's done your optimism about love will return. i'm already starting to feel a lot better about the relationship and its significance in my life but it's HARD because you have to mentally extract yourself from that compelling sun cj moon aspect!

i do think there is wisdom in letting go of expectation and even hope around love sometimes because the break or pause creates a mental reconfiguration and gradually allows for new possibilities that might have otherwise gone unrecognized or whatever, you know? so if you feel the need to feel this way for a while i don't see any harm in that! try not to feel too depressed though cuz it sounds like if this guy treated you badly he wasn't worth it, period, and that is no reflection on your loveability!

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posted January 21, 2012 09:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for iAmNines     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello IamLoved, iAmNines hahahahaha

... I have Sun Trine moon at 0.21 degrees. That's bad isn't it :P Plus there are all these bullcrap aspects and planet placements that basically have me chasing love when (it looks like) I'll never find it. And in fact repel it. I've kind of given up too because it looks like if I date Anyone, chances are I'll choose the biggest idiots around. That's exactly what's happened, regardless of how picky I'm being. And I'm only 20. :P

I haven't seen your chart but hey, comfort yourself in knowing there is someone worse off out there.

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