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RegardesPlatero
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posted July 16, 2012 06:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RegardesPlatero     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Personally, I don't believe in choosing a partner based on astrology alone. It's one thing to maybe use it to help understand someone, or to have a preference for a few placements, but it has limits.

I don't believe in "twin flames". Soulmates, yes, but not as they're usually defined here. For me, "soulmate" simply means "The One". As in, the one person who is your best match. And for me, astrology doesn't necessarily determine that.

For one thing, people can have very similar charts, but have them manifest completely differently, especially if their upbringing, life experiences, and culture are different. There are good and bad types of every sign and placement, too, and different degrees of evolution. You can have two people with the same chart and one could be a great person, and the other a monster. Factors outside of astrology have to be taken into consideration.

In addition, you can have great charts between you, and let things get boring and complacent, and not make an effort to constantly grow deeper and more intimate (by 'intimate', I'm not referring exclusively to sexuality, but to many kinds of intimacy). You can have more challenging charts, but make the decision to love, understand, and work together as a team.

I also don't believe in dumping a partner to whom you have made a commitment for someone flashy that comes along, in most cases, unless there are serious reasons for it (such as infidelity, abuse, irreconcilable differences on non-negotiable things, if you've genuinely tried your best to resolve issues but cannot, etc).

I believe that, when someone is committed to another and a new and exciting person comes along, that new person's role is not meant to be that of a new love, but rather is meant to help that person address other things in life. The new person is meant to help the person grow and to face challenges/things that had been avoided, repressed, or otherwise not acknowledged or dealt with before that must now be confronted.

I believe that problems in a relationship should be worked out within the relationship, and shouldn't be worked out by affairs.

And, too, lust and passion can only go so far. If you don't have real commitment, compatibility, love, kindness, deep intimacy, and the ability to weather storms together, all of the lust and passion in the world mean nothing. You need to build a relationship on a sturdy foundation, and lust and passion are not sturdy.

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posted July 16, 2012 02:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Anchi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
RegardesPlatero
''I don't believe in "twin flames". Soulmates, yes, but not as they're usually defined here. For me, "soulmate" simply means "The One". As in, the one person who is your best match. And for me, astrology doesn't necessarily determine that.''

I totally agree with this. Or at least I have believed this all my life until recently, when I started thinking about twinflames. I agree though, in the end it's all about the real commitment & love, not a label (twinflames&soulmates).

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Originally posted by violet7887:
Anchi, I will try my best to put my feelings into words.

My soulmate knows me very well, he knows perfectly how to take care of me, my likes my dislikes, what comforts me.

My Twin is a part of me.The part I need. He is the Question and all the answers, the why. I excel within my self and beyond with him.

My soulmate is another always standing by me to help me, guide me from his knowledge and heart.

My twin feels as if he is me, his thoughts are my thoughts, his actions are my actions, his soul is my soul.

When I met him, something deep in me opened . Him, his essence, his energy his actions his vibe, his mindset was like me in another body.

When I met my twin, I went through a transformation. I can say all i have been in my life before him was a setup to be prepared for him, to be prepared for the real me. That is what it feels like.

My soulmate is a perfect companion for life but the worth of this to me now is lacking as I feel this feeling of completing something which is unfinished.He gives me love and and understands what he must for "we' as a couple but does not understand "I" as a whole.

My twin feels like the other peice of my "I"

In regards to how will you know if another being is your twin?

you will know.you wont have been more sure of anything in your life. Your feelings for this person will be such you will find it impossible to explain or put into words. It will be a limitless love. Even if your mind tries to block what your soul is telling you EVERYTHING around you, inside you will tell you, show you. There will be signs everywhere, you might have dreams. You can physically feel the person very strongly once they exsist in your life. Your emotions are in sync with them always.

You might have always felt you were looking for something from a very young age,like you were missing something or you missed something very very badly but you did not know what and you [b]knew you would find it.I sometimes use to cry out no where for no absoulute reason when i was looking at certain things and especially when I was alone comtemplating. I use to get this strong feeling of missing someone and i would cry and cry. When i met him that overwhelming feeling came to me again. I would feel this heavy hurt and miss him and crry and cry. I realized it was him that I missed all this time. When you see them or meet this feeling reveals itself. You know you have found it.You will feel balanced, at peace. Like you were waiting for your purpose and evrything is limitless from now... I crave him.Twin soul also might come into your life very unexpectedly or when you are going through something emotionally significant.

If one crosses paths with their twin soul it will be crystal clear.All the mssing links will add up. Your world will be like a fast core-changing light and as still as infinity.

yes, I have questioned the concept of 'twin soul' many times but everytime I have something has always lead me to believe in it. Evrything I have seen so far has only made me believe it in my heart and soul.

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thank you so much for writing all of this. i really appreciate it. i've been contemplating so much about this stuff lately, i'm not even sure why. it's like the universe is sending me messages too. lol there was a time a few years back when i was really upset about something and i asked my mom if i ever had a twin (that died). i still to this day don't know why i asked her that out of the blue. lol i too sometimes feel like i'm missing something and i don't even know what. and i'm also not one of those people who think being in a relationship will make everything better. so i'm not expecting some ideal romance that will make me complete. either way i haven't found neither a true soulmate nor twinflame yet. so we'll see what the future holds. lol thanks again.

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Fleurdelis
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posted July 17, 2012 02:28 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ceridwen:
But I really mean it, in the end, you need to find out whom you love and who loves you. And that is something no other person can do for you.



You are correct.
After letting time pass..

I think the twinflame is a better person
The soulmate is stuck...

It's not only LOVE

it's
availability
history
situation

...and how much they are willing to work at the relationship and at growth.


At this point in time, my choice is clear. I choose the twinflame.. they are much more of an evolved person, and they are available.

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Fleurdelis
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posted July 17, 2012 02:30 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@violet

Thanks for writing out your feelings so clearly! I can relate!

@ Regardes & Anchi!

Thanks for your inputs also! Good food for thought.

Ps: regardes, it's not an affair, it's not about sex! And there isn't committment yet. This was a hard decision but sometimes you gotta leave someone behind. My soulmate forced my growth thru a lot of pain!
My twin is pure love!

That's the difference. I am willing to let go my soulmate lovingly and keep them as a friend no matter.

My twin is a better person than I, and is very progressive. That's a good reason to be with!

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posted July 18, 2012 02:14 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Fleurdelis:

You are correct.
After letting time pass..

I think the twinflame is a better person
The soulmate is stuck...

It's not only LOVE

it's
availability
history
situation

...and how much they are willing to work at the relationship and at growth.


At this point in time, my choice is clear. I choose the twinflame.. they are much more of an evolved person, and they are available.


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posted July 18, 2012 03:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ghanima81     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think this is the better path for you. I wish you so much love!

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posted July 22, 2012 01:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aeline     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
For now, i'd say i'd choose the Soulmate. I haven't found my Twinflame yet, but i remember exactly that i promised to love him forever and ever, he's my unfinished business in every single lifetime i remember.

I don't know what should happen for me to trade him for someone else.

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posted July 31, 2012 05:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for violet7887     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted August 19, 2012 12:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for HappyCap     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow violet. I am curious at your story. You mention your TF has not made any moves, but have you thought it may be because you have your SOULMATE next to you at all times? Maybe I'm reading into this wrong or maybe I'm still young and naive, but if I feel strongly for someone, no matter I cannot and will not become a homewrecker. The person will have to be single before I make a move. Maybe your TF is just considerate of your relationship?

I currently feel this way towards an old friend and I updated my thread about it: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum10/HTML/003837.html

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posted August 25, 2012 02:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Simunye     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
First of all a wholeheartedly ‘HELLO’ and 'LOVE and LIGHT' to all of you here.
I'm a newbie and hope to find my way around here soon.
To your questions Fleurdelis:
Like Linda, I too get the message since 1995 that the reunification of the TWIN-SELF (Twin-flame) is on top of the agenda to achieve finally the 1000 years of peace promised to us on earth.
Only when all men have their other TWIN-SELF back will they stop looking for more and the adultery/immorality in this world will stop.
All addictions are caused by the subconscious addiction to love which is not being satisfied. So mankind has replaced them with other addictions. Only true love can heal mankind from all their addictions.
The root of all evil is adultery (the forbidden fruit/the apple in neighbour’s garden/Adams apple), and adultery starts in the mind. Our ‘higher-self’ is androgynous, but when we are on earth (not our higher-self, just part of it) we are separated in two, with one of us having the wisdom/female part and the other one has the power/male part of the soul. The angel that became fallen angels wanted either more power or more wisdom and this is how the ‘fall’ of the angels came about
Anybody not belonging to us belongs to somebody else. If we hold on to the wrong partner, we not only miss our own chance for completion and happiness but also mess up our partners chance to find their TWIN-SELF. By setting him/her free and wishing them to find their other half, we deserve what we wish them.
So if anybody is in a predicament to choose, ask God/the universe/your higher self for your partners TWIN-SELF to be send to him/her and then separate in peace. Ask and you shall receive!
Love and light and God bless you all...

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Originally posted by Fleurdelis:
There's a question I need to ask.

Let us say you have been with your soulmate for a long time. Your soulmate is just like you in every way. You are very compatible..

But some time later, you actually meet your twinflame. The twinflame, is different.. they are your polar opposite, but extremely complementary to you in every way.


Here is the catch: Your twinflame, is the ONLY one in the universe made for you. They are the split half of your soul.

The soulmate, however, is and has been your partner for so long, and also in many incarations.

Who would you choose?

Note that you almost do NOT feel like you know your twinflame.. You actually FEEL closer to the soulmate since you have been with soulmate for so long. But twinflame, is yet still your DIVINE counterpart. There is only one.. "THE ONE"..

Would you 'betray' and leave your soulmate for your twinflame?

It is your call.. who would you choose?

Your twinflame is here with you for spiritual evolvement.. but you won't kno where it will take you. This also involves abandoning your soulmate, the one whom you have promised to love forever... into the dark abyss.. would you bear it?

How BIG is this dilemma.. anyone been through this, and any solutions?


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posted August 25, 2012 05:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mercuranian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Simunye:

Anybody not belonging to us belongs to somebody else. If we hold on to the wrong partner, we not only miss our own chance for completion and happiness but also mess up our partners chance to find their TWIN-SELF. By setting him/her free and wishing them to find their other half, we deserve what we wish them.
So if anybody is in a predicament to choose, ask God/the universe/your higher self for your partners TWIN-SELF to be send to him/her and then separate in peace. Ask and you shall receive!



Perfect!!!!

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posted September 02, 2012 08:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lilithpluto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^^ Agree.

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posted September 16, 2012 02:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gray     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Fleurdelis:
There's a question I need to ask.

Let us say you have been with your soulmate for a long time. Your soulmate is just like you in every way. You are very compatible..

But some time later, you actually meet your twinflame. The twinflame, is different.. they are your polar opposite, but extremely complementary to you in every way.


Here is the catch: Your twinflame, is the ONLY one in the universe made for you. They are the split half of your soul.

The soulmate, however, is and has been your partner for so long, and also in many incarations.

Who would you choose?

Note that you almost do NOT feel like you know your twinflame.. You actually FEEL closer to the soulmate since you have been with soulmate for so long. But twinflame, is yet still your DIVINE counterpart. There is only one.. "THE ONE"..

Would you 'betray' and leave your soulmate for your twinflame?

It is your call.. who would you choose?

Your twinflame is here with you for spiritual evolvement.. but you won't kno where it will take you. This also involves abandoning your soulmate, the one whom you have promised to love forever... into the dark abyss.. would you bear it?

How BIG is this dilemma.. anyone been through this, and any solutions?


I think you've got them mixed up. All the sites I've ever read say that your twin soul is exactly like you. Which makes sense if you believe that your twin soul is basically the other part of you that was split off or whatever. They won't be the exact opposite of you.

Soulmates, can be very different from you, but there's still that pull towards them and a tie or a bond, only not as intense as with a twin soul.

Also, soulmates are about spiritual evolution - you meet up with them to learn things about yourself and life and grow as a soul. When you're done with all that, that's when you meet your TWIN soul. Soulmate experiences are growth experiences. Twinsoul ones are not.

As far as what I'd do in that situation...I'd stay with the person I was already with, unless the relationship was really bad or unhealthy in some way.

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posted September 20, 2012 10:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LunaNight     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I didn't know the definition of a twin flame versus soul mate. I always thought my soulmate was my counterpart.. the other half of my puzzle.

But, based on your definition.. I have already lived this. I was with a partner off and on since I was 14. They were someone I shared everything with. But, one day we ran into an old friend of his. I was instantly attracted to this person. For months we merely became friends.. but the energy I felt toward this man was so strong. Eventually I felt bad in having feelings for someone else.. I ended the long-term relationship. And my partner now, the my ex's friend, wanted me. Imagine that!

My relationship with him is still difficult, but if they are my twinflame.. polar opposite.. it suits. We strive for the same balance.. just have different personal ways of achieving it. Our love and support for one another is what has kept us together.

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posted October 15, 2012 09:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for missem2003     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just because you meet your twinflame it doesn't mean that you are meant to be with them. You are supposed to follow your heart & not think about hurting your soulmate. Sometimes, you aren't meant to be with your "twinflame" in this lifetime & perhaps they are there to bring out awareness in your life about your soulmate.

Remember, treat a "twinflame" relationship like any other. They will test you. If you wouldn't put up with a regular person's crap then don't take theirs. It's a test of the soul. Let them go & if they're meant to be they will come back to you.

I've done so much research in this area to know, that a lot of people that leave their soulmates for a twinflame aren't always happy. So, make sure that you are judging everything with your heart. If they treat you bad (your twinflame) then leave them & let them be. Lead your life how you were. If they come back to you, then it's meant to be. Simple as that.

Do research on the topic. You'll see. Good luck!

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posted October 16, 2012 02:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bumblebee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And what if you are not happy with your soulmate because you are given the understanding of the higher love you feel with your twinflame? But your twinflame is someone who you are sooo in love with but things are so difficult? What then? Stay in a relationship with soulmate where you are no longer happy and satisfied?

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posted October 16, 2012 02:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Fleurdelis:
Does anyone know any instance where one would pick the soulmate instead of the twinflame?


For instance...

The soulmate, would never find anyone else after you..

While the twinsoul, they hardly know you, so the break would not be so bad? And they can also find their soulmate?

Wouldn't that be a happily ever after?

On what basis, should you friendzone your soulmate, who, didn't do anything wrong, just to pursue a twinsoul? Is it fair for the soulmate to be left behind like this?

any takers ?


I'm sorry but id chose my soulmate...ive felt alone my whole life, i need to finally be accepted a soft place to land, i dont need more growth, and if i do, i need to be loved in order to grow any more!

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posted October 16, 2012 02:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GirlinSeattle     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am not sure I have ever met my twin flame or will ever in this lifetime, although I am definitely not closed to the idea. I think I would pick a twin flame over a soul mate because I want my partner to teach me things and to show me things. I don't want someone to repeat what I have done or already know. Relationships are a learning experience, and not only to stroke my ego.

I'm not even sure if I've been with a soul mate. All I know is that all of my relationships are very, very karmic. My last experience was so painful, I had to get out of there. I felt held back, bogged down, and all I could focus on was him. It was a toxic relationship, and I am so happy to this day that I am no longer involved with him. Has anyone else had this type of karmic relationship?

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posted October 16, 2012 09:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for missem2003     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I'm sorry but id chose my soulmate...ive felt alone my whole life, i need to finally be accepted a soft place to land, i dont need more growth, and if i do, i need to be loved in order to grow any more!

Then, if you're unhappy with the soulmate & the twinflame makes you happy, then go for it! What are you waiting for? We spend time with a soulmate because they have a lesson to teach us. When they are done or we are done learning & we meet our twinflame, then it's time to get with the twinflame & reach that new height of love.

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posted October 19, 2012 07:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for peachbeigeblue     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
this whole thread makes me sad. how do you know if it's your twin flame?

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I would choose to be happy with myself - and then to go the best way for myself and anyone I might have a relationship with.

I felt a lot happier when I was happily single, and not feeling terminally unwanted.

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I don't think the choice is yours to make.

Your twin flame is the other half of you. Once you meet that person you don't feel right in your own skin without them anymore...

Comparing a Twinflame connection to a Soulmate connection is like comparing a flashlight at 2am in the dead of winter to the light of day on a hot summer afternoon...there is no comparison. IMO, if you feel like you have a choice (because you have the option to be with either) between your SM and the person you think is your TF, it's not your Twin.

I've met my Twin and by his decision (he's terrified of "us" right now) we aren't together and it tears me apart every day. My bff once told me "If you don't love your fiance enough to forget about your feelings for CSH (my Twin), maybe you don't love him the way you need to to marry him." A more untrue statement could never be made. My fiance is one of my soulmates and I love him with all my heart. But CSH is my Twinflame and if/when he decides that he's done running and is ready to be "us" again I can't say for even half a second that I would deny him...

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