posted August 11, 2012 09:51 PM            

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Originally posted by TheManticore:

The bad scorpios don't lol

Yeah... . I still think you are doing the right thing. Sometimes you gotta rip the band-aid so that the wound can heal.

btw kind of off topic, but what is his animal?

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Yeah he is a bad one

Asc scorpio/sun virgo/ moon gemini/ venus scorpio/ mars leo

Based on his birth year metal rooster
Based on his month fire rooster
Based on his day metal rat
Based on his birth time water horse

posted August 12, 2012 12:55 PM            

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Originally posted by Junethird:
Yeah he is a bad one

Asc scorpio/sun virgo/ moon gemini/ venus scorpio/ mars leo

Based on his birth year metal rooster
Based on his month fire rooster
Based on his day metal rat
Based on his birth time water horse

But your description of the snake fit him the best... I cant relate his ways to the rooster at all.

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You and those Roosters ... lol

As for the whole Snake/Rooster flipped thing, I have no explanation for that lol

posted August 12, 2012 03:24 PM            

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Originally posted by TheManticore:

You and those Roosters ... lol

As for the whole Snake/Rooster flipped thing, I have no explanation for that lol

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Suspicious, needs someone to listen...etc idk. The only rooster quality he would have is the ego thing lol

posted August 12, 2012 07:26 PM            

I just wanted to suggest you write this letter to yourself instead. He is already showing you what he has to give. I've learned from years of letter writing, and carefully worded conversations and time after time of trying to tell a man how I felt so he would understand and be closer to being able to love me the way I wanted...till it finally hit me: If you have to write a letter to tell someone what you need and how you feel, it's because they aren't the right person and if they aren't asking you how you feel or asking for a letter or explanation, it's probably because they don't really want one. It's a tough reality, but true more often than not.

You could write a love letter to yourself about what you want, how you feel about this man or any other men, anything you want to say, put it in the letter and keep it and whip it out whenever you forget what you are looking for.

As strong as the feelings you have for someone are, if they aren't appreciating you or giving you what you need, best to say "Smell ya later." and leave it as simple and succinct as that. If he wants more, he will ask. If you have to convince him to fight for you, you will have to be doing that for the entire length of your relationship.

posted August 12, 2012 11:24 PM            

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Originally posted by redshift:
UGgg, I just typed this long reply and then my son came along and turned off the computer.

I just wanted to suggest you write this letter to yourself instead. He is already showing you what he has to give. I've learned from years of letter writing, and carefully worded conversations and time after time of trying to tell a man how I felt so he would understand and be closer to being able to love me the way I wanted...till it finally hit me: If you have to write a letter to tell someone what you need and how you feel, it's because they aren't the right person and if they aren't asking you how you feel or asking for a letter or explanation, it's probably because they don't really want one. It's a tough reality, but true more often than not.

You could write a love letter to yourself about what you want, how you feel about this man or any other men, anything you want to say, put it in the letter and keep it and whip it out whenever you forget what you are looking for.

As strong as the feelings you have for someone are, if they aren't appreciating you or giving you what you need, best to say "Smell ya later." and leave it as simple and succinct as that. If he wants more, he will ask. If you have to convince him to fight for you, you will have to be doing that for the entire length of your relationship.

Sorry if this is an annoying opinion to you. Who the heck am I right? Well, I can't help it, Mars in Aries. Just trying to help sister. In my experience, no matter what I said to a man that wasn't appreciating me, I just ended up feeling worse. Like I failed at getting him to understand. Like it was up to me to help him see the light that I was great and worthy of fighting for or whatever it was I thought was missing. Again, that ain't the way it should be. If a dude really loves you, he will grab on and not let go and you won't have to write any damn letters and it will be soooo much better that way

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@redshift,

Thank you for your personal insight on a love letter. No offense taken as i can tell its very well intended thank you for having my back and giving me a dose of reality.

posted August 13, 2012 01:42 AM            

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Originally posted by Junethird:
Suspicious, needs someone to listen...etc idk. The only rooster quality he would have is the ego thing lol

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Yes Roosters do love attention A lot depends on if he is a positive Rooster or not, or as I like to call them the "Strutter" or the "Pecker" (no double meaning intended ). lol

posted August 13, 2012 02:16 AM            

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Originally posted by TheManticore:

Yes Roosters do love attention A lot depends on if he is a positive Rooster or not, or as I like to call them the "Strutter" or the "Pecker" (no double meaning intended ). lol

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@Manticore,

Is this based on an element or personality? I guess his scorpion ways make him a pessimist lol

posted August 13, 2012 11:11 AM            

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Originally posted by Junethird:
@Manticore,

Is this based on an element or personality? I guess his scorpion ways make him a pessimist lol

How does water melt metal?

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I was mainly referencing just Rooster without an element.

See with Roosters it is about ego, either they are confident and they "strut". Or they are not confident and they seek to find it by competing and "pecking".

Being a Metal Rooster makes him more "rigid". Metals are more solid but also more "cold".

and Water doesn't melt Metal, that would be Fire .

posted August 13, 2012 11:33 AM            

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Originally posted by Junethird:
@redshift,

Thank you for your personal insight on a love letter. No offense taken as i can tell its very well intended thank you for having my back and giving me a dose of reality.

I understand that it comes accross as expecting a reaction, i dont want to convince him of anything, i dont think ive ever done that with any partner. i just dont know how else to express that this is something ive always wanted to do in order for me to close this chapter. This is me making a decision... Yes my love situation makes me sad, but futile or not i need to leave every last bit of emotion associated with this romance/memory on the table so i can move on and start fresh... Does that make sense?

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posted August 13, 2012 11:58 AM            

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Originally posted by TheManticore:

I was mainly referencing just Rooster without an element.

See with Roosters it is about ego, either they are confident and they "strut". Or they are not confident and they seek to find it by competing and "pecking".

Being a Metal Rooster makes him more "rigid". Metals are more solid but also more "cold".

and Water doesn't melt Metal, that would be Fire .

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@Manticore,

Yes Iam aware that water doesn't melt metal lol he is more ego. Iam very surprised he isn't a Leo or remotely close to being one... Sigh.

posted August 13, 2012 12:00 PM            

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Originally posted by redshift:
Sure it makes sense. You gotta do what ya gotta do I hope it brings the closure you are looking for.

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@redshift,

posted August 13, 2012 12:15 PM            

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Originally posted by Junethird:
@Manticore,

Yes Iam aware that water doesn't melt metal lol he is more ego. Iam very surprised he isn't a Leo or remotely close to being one... Sigh.

So what are the natural partners of a rooster? What makes them tick and what doesn't... Weaknesses, strengths?

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Yes the ego/show-off thing is similar to Leo.

Natural partners are...
Ox and Snake, in their trine. Monkey is their ally animal. Dragon is their co-hort animal.

Another without any special affiliation is the Pig, which I think they have a decent compatibility with.

Roosters HATE being teased or made fun of, also taking orders, and bad hygiene .

You sure we are not derailing this thread too?... lol

posted August 13, 2012 12:42 PM            

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Originally posted by TheManticore:

Yes the ego/show-off thing is similar to Leo.

Natural partners are...
Ox and Snake, in their trine. Monkey is their ally animal. Dragon is their co-hort animal.

Another without any special affiliation is the Pig, which I think they have a decent compatibility with.

Roosters HATE being teased or made fun of, also taking orders, and bad hygiene .

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posted August 14, 2012 12:52 PM            

Interesting, what is your Venus sign?

posted August 14, 2012 01:25 PM            

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Originally posted by TheManticore:
@Junethird

Interesting, what is your Venus sign?

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@Manticore,

posted August 14, 2012 01:31 PM            

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Originally posted by Junethird:
@Manticore,

My Venus is in detriment. Aries 12H
And his is in scorpio 12H

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Well that explains that Maybe you like the fighting/action/excitement/"tension" of the relationship? In private (12th) of course .

And not to be rude but you keep saying you are compatible with him yet you guys are not together.

posted August 14, 2012 01:47 PM            

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Originally posted by TheManticore:

Well that explains that Maybe you like the fighting/action/excitement/"tension" of the relationship? In private (12th) of course .

And not to be rude but you keep saying you are compatible with him yet you guys are not together.

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Based on our syn/comp... As for the rest, well Iam not innocent but nothing extreme. When he isn't holding a grudge against me, we get along nicely. No, no drama on my end. If anything I hate fighting/tension. Iam always the first to smooth out any wrinkles or misunderstandings. Idk maybe those 4 yrs apart really changed us into very diff people and we are tying to regain the past which is long gone I thought the time apart was a good thing. It gave us the time to go thru the changes we needed to realize what we do want and need. I guess maybe Iam stuck when he mentioned that I was the only good thing in his life back in he day. It never occurred to me that it would not translate into the present as well

posted August 14, 2012 03:03 PM            

Well, if your venus in aries is expressed positively than it makes sense that you directly confront (aries) the problems in the relationship (venus).

Four years is a long time, and it sounds to me like the effort to make it work is only coming from your side.

Dog people usually do not get very much recognition, so I can see how you would still value and feel appreciated by his words after such a long time . Also, those cancer moons have an eternal emotional memory .

I didn't mean that you should not vent your feelings on here, as that is quite healthy for us water moons , I am sorry if I came across that way .

posted August 14, 2012 03:55 PM            

my heart is just confused as to why he would say such things if he had no intention to follow thru or atleast work on the problems in our relationship... I find that he needs me to validate himself, for reasons unkown to me yet... Ive never asked him if he loved me, yet he has asked me on many repeated occassions.. Ive always understood my feelings for him. Ive never questioned them or the trust i had in him... But has no lroblem doing it to me. Questioning my feelings, dedication to him. 

He really has a messed up videal of what love is... I still blame his friends. He idializes their wifes... Saying oh she knows him, theyve been together forever, been thru it all... Ummm yeah, prolly because they both stuck it out and at some point he was smart enough to not forget her birthday or special events in her life and if he did, he prolly made it up to her, not ignore it lol. And then acts completely flabbergasted, in disbelief that i can anticipate his needs/wants. He is pretty easy to read, but at 30 i have very little patience for his antics and i guess that where my not so flattering qualities come to light and then he takes that as "proof" that iam not who he thought i was. Iam not the nice, shy, quiet girl lol i have a new label now iam "moody" lol

Its strange, he comes from a nice down to earth family... Very close to his mom and gran, both cancer/gemini woman lol.

He is so immature. Needs to grow a pair and stop complaining that he is tired of girls wanting something from him lol but he keeps on choosing the superficial, so thats on him lol.

posted August 14, 2012 04:01 PM            

Sounds like he doesn't know what he wants, and with his gemini moon, he's emotionally very flighty and changeable. He may actually like you one minute and not the next.

It may be his venus in scorpio that is initiating the conflict. That venus needs proof of love through "intensity" and he may be trying to get you to "prove" it in that way. It also sounds like he sets you up a lot.

I personally don't think that family comes into play in the end when people make the choice on how to behave, I am not close to my mother AT ALL or my grandmother and I would consider myself very down to earth .

And I agree at the age of 30 he should be mature enough to face/deal with these sort of things you would think .

posted August 14, 2012 04:24 PM            

Now he is so different. Alot colder and alot more stubborn.

posted August 14, 2012 04:33 PM            

Yeah, his Venus may feel as though you betrayed him long ago, and now he is trying to get back at you.

Also if his friends are influencing him and he is making his decisions based on what they say...uggh You don't want any of that.

I agree family is important , what I meant was they don't necessarily influence his decision making.

posted August 14, 2012 04:46 PM            

Its very easy now for him to stonewall me... it really hurts my feelings. I only walked away because his actions made the decision for me.

Yes he likes to throw the fact that i was in a long term relationship and almost had a child in my face. He did too... Multiple times. He moved on with another girl and she miscarried. So i dont understand how that is a big deal.

I honestly dont get how any girl has gotten him to the point where theyve moved in with him... And been taken home to mom.

When iam having such a hard time getting thru his thick head. Its like talking to a wall. He is the one who came back guns a blazing... He is also not convinced i love him because i hesitated a few times saying i love you back... In my defense, i was caught off guard and not prepared to dig for emotions.

He is just awful and immature. He is gonna get a piece of my mind soon enough he should know better than to upset me too much, ive already taken a big chunck of his ego already and it did not go down very pretty... I bet he is still holding on to that too