posted November 24, 2012 03:40 AM            

If the 9th Harmonic Chart shows your Soul, wouldn't connections (I'd say with REEEEEEALLY close orbs) between the 9th Harmonic and another person's Natal chart signify some sort of Soul connection?

I'm very curious because my fiance's 9th Harmonic Sun is exactly conjunct my Natal Vertex, separated by only 9 minutes.

If anybody has any info on this I'd love for you to share it

posted December 04, 2012 01:44 AM            

My 9th harmonic sun is exactly square Pluto and his natal has that aspect.
His 9th sun is 2* away from my 9th sun.
His 9th NN is exactly conjunct my natal ASC.
His natal vertex is 1* away from my 9th vertex.
His 9th vertex is exactly conjunct my 9th SN.
His 9th vertex is opposite my 9th mercury and Saturn 0-1* and conjunct my 9th moon 2*.
His 9th moon is conjunct my natal SN 2*.
My 9th Pluto is conjunct his natal SN 0*.
My natal Neptune conjunct his 9th sun 0*.
My 9th mars conjunct his natal Venus 2*.
My 9th Venus opposite his 9th mars 3*.
My 9th Venus is conjunct his natal mercury and Sun/Moon MP 2.

There are more but the point is, these connections will be there within significant relationships.

My daughter has her natal NN conjunct my natal NN 2 degrees and we have a very unique and strong bond, and we have sooo many 9th to 9th and 9th to natal connections.

posted February 18, 2013 12:19 PM            

9th Harmonic to 9th Harmonic comparison : Node axis , conjunct Node axis , but upside down !!

Man’s 9th harmonic NN , conjuncts woman's 9th harmonic SN
More precisely:
Man's NN(conjunct with his Atlantis,his Neptune, his Karma, his Isis-Osiris) , CONJUNCTS woman’s NS (conjunct with her vertex)
Man’s 9th harmonic NS (conjunct with his Sphinx and his Juno ) conjuncts woman’s 9th NN /Pluto.

??????

In normal synastry, it's slighly different:
Man's Neptune, Karma, Atlantis, Osiris, Isis, conjunct woman's south node. And man's sphinx conjuncts woman's north node.

posted February 18, 2013 06:42 PM            

So if your looking for someone to grow old with, yes, this would be the place to look!
Its good to also compare your natal to the 9th because its always nice to be with someone who not only understands where your going bt also gets where youve been! Kind of in the same way the south node is so comforting...of course a nice mixture, from a partner, of understanding your past and being excited about your future is the Holy Grail!
Also to really understand if the relationship will help you grow into who you are meant to be check your composite compared to both 9th harmonics!

posted February 18, 2013 06:58 PM            

quote:

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Originally posted by littlefrenchy:
Good evening,
I have got a strange interaspect with a certain somenone. Could you help me to understand the meaning ? All ideas welcome!!

9th Harmonic to 9th Harmonic comparison : Node axis , conjunct Node axis , but upside down !!

Man’s 9th harmonic NN , conjuncts woman's 9th harmonic SN
More precisely:
Man's NN(conjunct with his Atlantis,his Neptune, his Karma, his Isis-Osiris) , CONJUNCTS woman’s NS (conjunct with her vertex)
Man’s 9th harmonic NS (conjunct with his Sphinx and his Juno ) conjuncts woman’s 9th NN /Pluto.

??????

In normal synastry, it's slighly different:
Man's Neptune, Karma, Atlantis, Osiris, Isis, conjunct woman's south node. And man's sphinx conjuncts woman's north node.

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This synastry sounds like you will have a good understanding of each other....
The question is will your path make him feel like your holding him back?
Your moving forward is going to feel like moving backwards to him....and it will feel the same for you, as he grows and is excited about it, to you it might feel like old news and if your not careful you might accidentally make his accomplishments seem like nothing, since youve already been there...done that!

I'm sure there is a lot of comfort and understanding between you, feels very safe and comfortable but without a lot of understanding it could eventually get stressful the things that are awe in inspiring to one won't be awe inspiring to the other?

Actually he's insights might eventually seem elementary to you and if your not careful you might lose respect for each others insights on spirituality....but reality is if you both are practicing love, respect won't be lost because love allows others to be different without being judged for it! Love recognizes we are all on our own path and there is no right or wrong path because they all lead to God!

If you are both aware of this and give each other a lot of room for growth without feeling obligated or expecting the other to walk the same path ...it just might work!

I would say to hang onto this relationship you need a lot of agreeing to disagree on the best way you attain spiritual growth since your paths are in oppositions to each other!

Agreement to spend time apart if/when it starts to get stressful and doing this without anger, just love and understanding, knowing know you will come back together once you feel it is the right time.
Space is going necessary to keep from burning out and to make sure everything stays fresh and exciting!

posted February 19, 2013 06:05 AM            

First, Thank you vey much for your answer,
I still have to translate many things I've not yet understood (I'm french) in your post , but I think I globally understood what you said about the nodes upside down, and I think you are right !
He does not go where I go. And I don't go where he goes.
yes, it seems really TRUE.
Can love solve the problem ? For other people, perhaps it can. In our case, I feel destiny is against us, in this life anyway.

The fact that in synastry, his Neptune/Atlantis + his Karma conjuncts my South Node , and his Sphinx on my North Node, seems to act like a kind of glue for me, I'm deeply attracted. I mean, spiritually, much more than physically. It's like a spiritual glue that I feel.

My South Node seems to tell me the story : from the beginning, I've started my life with all these spirituals things of his, stuck on my roots, my inner soul, my south node. And my Pallas here, SN Libra, seems to confirm the story , telling me I have to cut the past link to this spiritual "father" of my past, don't you think ? it's odd my Pallas is precisely here. Pallas, the "daughter" who has to emancipate.

There is probably some kind of deep identifying process from me, towards him , because in natal, my own Sphinx conjuncts my own DESC, while his Sphinx is on my North node. And in 9th Harmonic,my Atlantis conjunct my Neptune, similar to what happens to him in natal: Nept conjunct Atlantis natal !

very very strange.....
I wonder about statistics(odds?), but I'm not strong enough in maths. I wonder how many people have Neptune/atlantis conjunct in 9th harmonics, loving precisely somebody who has Neptune/ Atlantis conjunct in natal. This second person having this natal conjunction on the south node of the first person.

?!

I also have Eros/Psyche natal, and he has Osiris/Isis natal, so even separately, as an individual person, we both have this common point of integrating our own male/female energies. I read somewhere that when you have eros/psyche conjunct in natal, It is hard for you to find intimate real fulfillment with someone, in fact you need to find somebody with eros/psyche conjunct too ! This is not his case. But he has Osiris/isis conjunct, which is even more powerful , because linked to occult abilities, and he has it on my south node ,of course, with all the rest !!!

ah. OK.

so of course, I feel a spiritual link
I should better say: HOW could I have escaped feeling a spiritual link ?

But I really have the impression that 9th Harmonic comparison to natals themes is really THE point, to determine "soul links" between two people !!!
I really think that the BIG CLUE is comparing 9th to natals , and the more I watch aspects, the more I'm convinced. That's why I posted on this file.

it's quite stunning.

In 9th harmonic compared to his natal, it makes this :
-My 9th H Desc/Sphinx (17°43 cap ) conjunct his natal Sun (17°15 cap ). Quasi Exact.

-My 9th SUN is 11°36 libra = my own natal South node ! argh
SO, my 9th SUN conjuncts his natal Neptune/Atlantis (10°48), his natal Karma (11°2 ),and his natal Osiris/Isis (8°12,9°) Yes ,yes, precisely those ones which in synastry are on my South Node ! Well, my 9th Sun conjunct them all !

it just seems so fated

-My 9th Neptune/Atlantis conjuncts his natal ASC (6° and 9° aquarius)

-His 9th Vesta/Moon(taurus 3°56,5°16) conjunct my natal Vesta/Moon(taurus 3°54,aries 29°55)

This kind of thing can not be a "coincidence". I don't know what it MEANS, but I know this is not coincidence.

This is even less coincidence , because these interaspects do NOT appear in natal. For instance, his Vesta is NOT conjunct his Moon in natal at all , and is not in Taurus. This is thanks to 9th Harmonic that suddenly his Vesta conjunct his Moon, and both suddenly conjunct my natal Vesta/moon.
(In normal synastry , his Vesta is on my North Node/chiron, and my Vesta opposite his eros/chiron)

The comparison 9th harmonic to natal seems very very IMPORTANT .

The problem is : there is very few informations to help us to interpretate, give meaning. In french net, it is worse, there is NOTHING at all . You receive answers like "asteroids have no sense at all, nor in natal, nor in synastry, it is just stupid, don't waste your time with that " LOOOOLLLL .
Or you are answered "vedic astrology has no sense, it is just a stupid fashion " LOOOLLLLL.
Very afraid of opening their minds to something new, rejecting every new analysis, "a priori".
That's why I am here with you !

ps) 5th harmonics seems interesting too, don't you think ?
5th Sun/vertex conjuncts 5th Sun/NN, in my case. But I haven't yet seen further.

posted February 19, 2013 09:27 AM            

Past life connections don't always equal soul mates in this incarnation! This man obviously has a different path than you in this lifetime, even if in the last you were together! Who knows maybe he has some karma somewhere else he must clear up this lifetime and you will meet him again in the next? Maybe he is potentially a soul mate in your next incarnation but not now! Just see it as his way of bumping into to you to say "Hi, dont forget about me!" LOL
The bond may feel strong but in this lifetime there is someone better for you, someone who will make you happier than he could and the bond will be stronger! Don't worry to much about this guy, he's close...but hes not "the one" this time around!

It always seems right before we meet our true soul mate we get sent a couple guys that are so close, almost the right guy, but just not quite everything we need.

Its almost like its a test to see if we will settle for something less or will we chose to listen to what our soul is telling us, "this isn't your souls partner...be patient he'll come!"

Maybe its only after you can pass this test and learn to truly listen to your soul speaking to you...only then you have the ability to really appreciate your soul mate and its that appreciation that opens the door and allows you to find each other! IDK?

What i do know is the love is so deep and touches on a level that is breath taking...once you've felt it, nothing else compares!

posted February 19, 2013 01:05 PM            

It is sometimes hard to accept that.

As humans, we have not much possibilities to express our love, and if we don't hug, kiss , make love,live with somebody, we really have the impression we are deprived from(with?) our only tools for expressing love !
I went through this stage.

I feel very peaceful , now I know the truth. For years, I was in a deep sadness because of that feeling I had for the guy. It was hell, until I succeeded in reaching him. Then, I finally reached him, and then, it was TERROR.

Three months ago, (maybe because of transit Pluto on my DESC , square NN ?)I decided to look for astrology ! An intuition, that perhaps this would give me the answer. I spent several weeks studying and searching, and BINGO. Now I know, and I'm in peace of mind , thank you Pluto !
Transit Pluto on desc square Node axis, wow ! it's howling the ground very deep, it's suffering a lot, it's great demollition ! But truth finally appears, and it 's great.

Now, I don't need to touch him, I don't suffer because he's far, a next meeting is planned, but I won't go. I'm just a bit nostalgic about what could have been, but I'm absolutely convinced we are destined to gather some day in a non-human form. Not destined to spoil and ruin each other's lives in this life !

I needed some objective people , to confirm what I suspected about this node aspect NN/SN in 9th to 9th. That what you did. Thank you !
Now everything is in place, everything is very logical, very clear, very quiet.

I give this advice to everybody : if you suspect somebody to be your "soul mate" for a strong reality-love , or to be your twin flame for an alchemist-unreal-soul love, compare natals with 9th Harmonic ! If there is an answer to find, you will find it there.

Conjunctions/oppositions involving Venus/Mars, Venus/Moon, Moon/Moon, Sun/Venus, Eros/Psyche, Valentine,etc,etc , that is to say all the "tender love " planets ,+ NN, + ASC + MC (future, appearances, social life , job ...) will show you a soul mate for this life ! Somebody you can love and live with in supreme harmony.

Surabondant Conjunctions involving South Nodes, DEC, IC, Vertex, Karma, Pluto, Neptune , isis/osiris, atlantis, sphinx, (all the "soul" things, the "root" things, origins, past ), + an incredible similarity of themes , but reciprocally striken by one or two violent squares to Node axis and ASC of the other person (they are so disappointed and angry to have been separated ) will show you a twin flame.

this is different!

This is my opinion but of course , perhaps I'm completely wrong.

posted February 19, 2013 08:23 PM            

Ive seen synastry between what i believe to be soul mates...you do see a consistent theme!
These 2 charts have so much going on between vertex/psyche/karma/pluto/and her AC/DC angles.
Also their composite chart angles were strange, all earth and water angles but the AC/DC falls on her N.Node/S.Node and the IC/MC falls n his N.Node/S.Node

Thats super karmic in my opinion!

His Kaali/Isis are exact on her karma and her Osiris is exact on his N.Node!
His Karma/Psyche(soul) is on her vertex exact..and her Alma(spanish for soul) is on his vertex exact.
Her Juno on his S.Node in his 8th house and his Venus is on her S.Node in her 8th house.

Very karmic relationship, obviously they had been in love and married in the past!

Here is a few aspect between their 9th harmonic/composite and their natal charts that were impressive...

Her 9th Harmonic N.Node cap@15.34
Their Composite N.Node cap@15.11
His Natal AC cap@14.24

in synastry---
her Valentine cap@9.59
his Valentine cap@10.20
her Eros cap@9.02
her Ic cap@7.58
his saturn taurus@11
his Ic saturn@9.01
her juno virgo@12
his n.node pisces@11
(her 9th harmonic sun taurus@10/pluto cap@9, his 9th harmonic ceres taurus@12.11)

Their Composite--
N.Node cap@15.11
Eros cap@14
Karma cap@15
Psyche taurus@17
Aphrodite scorpio@16
Kaali cap@18
(his 9th harmonic moon taurus@16.04/karma scorp@16 and her natal Angel cap@16)

posted February 19, 2013 08:37 PM            

his natal angel aqua@26
his 9th harmonic juno aqua@26

posted February 20, 2013 11:53 AM            

quote:

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Originally posted by Gabby:
Oh forgot about her sun/moon mid point is libra@26
His sun/moon mid point is aqua@19
their composite sun aqua@19 and composite moon libra@26

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I have something similiar with someone.

composite Sun is conjunct his Sun/Moon-mp (which falls onto my Sun)

c-Sun: 26 Sag
his Sun/Moon: 27 Sag

composite Moon is conjunct my Sun/Moon-mp
c-Moon: 22 Cap
my Sun/Moon: 21 cap

When we met Tr Juno was conjunct composite Sun on his Sus natal Sun/Moon-mp
Tr Juno: 26 Sag (btw the orb to c-Sun was 0.00!)

And Tr Jupiter was conjunct composite Moon on my natal Sun/Moon-mp.
Tr Jupiter: 22 Cap

Additionally my (and also his) pr Psyche was conjunct his natal Eros within one degree.
(plus Tr Psyche was opposite composite Eros with one degree orb).

his Eros: 8 Pisces
my pr Psyche:7 Pisces
his pr PSyche: 6 PIsces

(important degree in the 9th harmonic chart as well, as my 9th harm Valentine falls there along with his 9th harm Juno and of course my name in his tropical chart)

The first meeting chart had SIVA conjunct PARVATI (trine my natal Siva and opposite his 9th Siva-Eros) and on the day we met this aligned very tightly with the progressed composite KAALI-ASC-conjunction. Just left me gobsmacked when I saw that.

BTW his pr Parvati had been conjunct as well.

fmc Siva: 12 Pisces
fmc Parvati: 14 Pisces
pr composite Kaali: 14 pisces
pr composite ASC 14 pisces

his pr Parvati: 13 Pisces
my Siva: 14 Scorpio (my 9th Svia is on the same degree)

As I just see, talking about Eros-Psyche:
composite EROS is conjunct his 9th Psyche (and Tr Psyche had been opposite back then)

posted February 20, 2013 12:21 PM            

Soul mates !

posted February 20, 2013 02:13 PM            

quote:

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Originally posted by littlefrenchy:
Waow

Soul mates !

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LOL

I wouldn´t swear an oath on it, but yes, he gets under my skin, that much I know.

However, I do think that if soulmates meet, this meeting will show strong soulmate-correlations as well.

posted February 20, 2013 02:14 PM            

For theprogressed composite I use:
progressed composite, midpoint method

posted February 20, 2013 06:39 PM            

Something else
You know what ? I think it would be GREAT to make the composite of two people 9th harmonic charts !
It would be the "composite of the souls "!!
If it is true that a 9th harmonic chart reveals very intimate and authentic things about one person , so a composite 9th to 9th should portrait the "composite soul love relationship " of two people ! what do you think ?
Perhaps even better than draconic composite.

On Astrodienst, it seems it is not possible to do such a thing.
So I'm going to make it MYSELF

I'm going to take a blank chart with nothing written on it, then: Midpoint calculator.

problem, afterwards must I compare with each natal chart ? or with each 9th chart ?
Logically,it should be with each 9th charts. With classical composite, you compare it with the two natals which have formed it.

posted February 21, 2013 09:08 AM            

-Compo 9 NNode conjunct compo 9 Sphinx:
= in natal synastry, he has his sphinx on my NN , exact.
so the result about NN is exactly the same as in the synastry, which is absolutely impossible to understand. Do you ?

A 9th chart is something very personal and unique , made of natal noviles. How is it possible that finally the midpoint of his very personal 9th NN (capri 11°42 ) and my very personal 9th NN (cancer 6°39) make a 9th composite Node axis exactly conjunct to my natal aries Node axis ? and moreover, with a composite sphinx stuck on top of it , just like in synastry his sphinx is stuck to my N Node ?

^^

- Compo 9 SNode conjunct comp 9 Eros :
in natal composite, we 've got Eros conjunct NS too !

- Compo 9 SUN conjunct compo 9 Psyche conjunct 9 antivertex
( sounds a bit telepathic)
= conjunct his natal Moon, Saturn
= conjunct my natal Mars
= conjunct my natal Sun

- Compo 9 Neptune , conjunct Compo 9 Atlantis, (again) conjunct compo 9 IC

= conjunct his natal Sun, exact

-In synastry, he has his Neptune/Atlantis/karma natal on my south node exact.
- in 9th to 9th, I've got my 9th Neptune/Atlantis conjunct his 9th Karma exact
-and now,in 9th composite, there is a neptune/atlantis/IC conjunct his natal sun exact

- Compo 9 Moon conjunct compo 9 vertex, conjunct compo 9 Jupiter
In synastry, we have Vertex conjunct Jupiter in double whammy

-Compo 9 NN/Sphinx conjunct Compo 9 DEC
and Compo SN/eros conjunct compo 9 ASC

( composite nodes axis and compo AC/DEC axis are conjunct)

-Compo 9 Venus conjunct compo 9 Vesta

-Compo 9 lilith
= conjunct his natal lilith
= conjunct my natal desc
(lilith conjunct desc in synastry)

etc etc

the most stunning thing is the compo 9 node axis = my natal axis !
and also, the neptune/atlantis/karma business once again
This is impossible to understand because each of the 9th chart is made of very personal noviles !! I really don't understand how it can give this result. And all the rest neither.

posted February 21, 2013 12:34 PM            

Our natal composite features ATLANTIS on 00 Libra, on this public degree, and makes a T-square with Sun on 1 Cap and Saturn on 1 Cancer. And the nodal axis runs from 28 Sag to Gemini, so it is part of this as well.

Now looking at our individual 9th harmonic charts in respect to Atlantis:

I have:
NESSUS on 13.55 Gemini conjunct ATLANTIS on 14.15 Gemini conjunct natal KARMA on 16 Gemini
- conjunct HIS natal Saturn on 15.30 Gemini!

(so underneath our very karmic Karma-Saturn-conjunction my Nessus/Atlantis is hiding. lol)

He has
9th NESSUS on 15.09 Aries squrae 9th ATLANTIS on 16.09 Capricorn conjunct his natal NORTH NODE on 16.51 Capricorn

opposite MY Saturn on 16.57 Capricorn
(so our other very karmic aspect of Saturn-SN hides HIS Nessus-Atlantis issue!)

his 9th KARMA is on 00 Libra falling onto natal composite ATLANTIS
my 9th CHIRON is on 00 Libra as well!

9th composite ATLANTIS is on 00 Aries - what a coincidence. lol

9th composite ASC and Neptune are on 13 and 12 Gemini - on my 9th Nessus/Atlantis, my natal Karma, his natal Saturn, his 9th Moon on 11 Gemini // opposite his natal Venus exact (of course that means that 9th composite DESC falls onto our Neptune/NN-Venzus conjunction)

9th comp KARMA is on 12 Sag (adding to the correlations above, interestingly my natal Atlantis is on 8 Sag, so not that far away; and both our Atlantis - positions are on the exact contrascion of each other, thus resulting in an 00 Libra-position for composite Atlantis).

BTW my Atlantis is conjunct my ASC and Angel and Groom, and conjuncts his ASC and Lucifer and Briede natally.

As if this wasn´t esoteric enough, his Adams is conjunct my Eve. lol

9th comp NN is on 16 Gemini PRECISELY on our natal Karma-Saturn-conjunction

9th comp Sun is on 16 Capricorn, exactly conjunct his NN-Jupiter-conjunction on 16 and 17 Cap, opposing my natal SAturn on 16 Cancer, and of course conjunct his 9th ATLANTIS

posted February 21, 2013 12:42 PM            

For example something like a Sun-Valentine conjunction in the Dracos could point to a love that has its reason in a past life love and comes into being again, or even that the relationship has the purpose of opening people up to the beauty of love.

If the same happens in a 9th harmonic charts, it might be not so important to ask for the why. These people might simply love each other, because they do. Because it is sort of imprinted in the depth of their souls. Even though they may of course learn and grow through their love, this is not the main thing this is about. They love each other, cause they can`t "not do it".